WW XCV: Land of the Role Reveals GAME OVER

[Tyrith]

I will say that the first time I was a wolf my instinct was to say as little as possible, and I got away with it the entire game. Although that was a long, loong time ago - probably in the 20s.

[Tyrith]

At this point I'm going to wait for hoops to do something before I do anything else.

[Schmidty]

USFL was a wolf with me a few games back. Not that I taught him anything (obviously), but he has experience.

[hoopsguy]

OK, just finished reading. Going to check out the latest voting totals and put down a vote.

[Chief Rum]

Vague memory tells me he has once. Maybe Pass's game a few back. But not 100% sure.

FWIW, outside of Martin, by process of elimination mostly, I think I would actually vote Racer from the DT Day One vote squad. I have reasons (mostly vibe and conjecture) to discount the others, leaving me with him or accepting there are no wolves in the DT vote, which is possible, but pretty unlikely.

All of which is problematic, since not only would Racer represent a new candidate, but he's here right now chatting with us.

[ntndeacon]

Vote Martin

[Chief Rum]

I do not think Tyrith is a wolf, but that is mostly vibe, and my belief that he would not have gone out of his way this morning to point out the flaw in PB's first submission of his plan (which was impossible by the rules).

Danny's move is too over the top and obvious to be a wolf move.

Dubb is almost certainly the Duke and about to become the Believed Seer.

EagleFan is dead and a good guy.

lerriuqs made the first vote on DT and stuck with it. Don't usually see a wolf make that sort of move (although self-defense likely locked his vote in).

So that would leave me with Racer by default.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Vote Martin

?

[Tyrith]

Self defense, but his move is, sadly, probably more than we have on Danny.

UNVOTE DANNY
VOTE MARTIND

[Danny]

Im here, what's the vote count?

[hoopsguy]

Danny seems to be playing more aggressively on gut than on logic so far this game, which seems out of character for him. I'm not sure what to make of it, honestly. Wish I had a little more time to re-read some posts - I'm pretty sure that my schedule will lighten up tomorrow and allow me to start digging in a little more.

Is there a reason that people did not continue to explore the runner-up in the lynch yesterday (Lerriuqs)? Did I miss something in terms of reasons for trust? I'm not going to introduce a new candidate now but it seems odd that he has not been a topic of discussion at all over the last couple of pages.

I'm going to double down my bet on Dubb today, for better or worse:

VOTE USFL

[Schmidty]

What's the current vote (sorry to be lazy -still cooking), because I'm thinking of changing my vote.

[Chief Rum]

Danny and Martin tied at 4 apiece. Martin has latest vote.
Tyrith at 3
USFL at 2. Dubb is on USFL.

USFL, hoops yet to vote (I think)

[Danny]

Lynch:
Martin – lerriuqs (597), Chief (713), Purdue (718)
Tyrith – Danny (605), Martin (682), saldana (704),
Danny – Tyrith (641), Lathum (669), Telle (710), Schmidty (721)
USFL – dubb (738), Racer (742)

CR as Seer –lerriuqs (571), Tyrith (576), saldana (579), CR (712)
dubb as seer – Tyrith (578), Racer (581), dubb (582), lerriuqs (585), dubb (589), Danny (601), lathum (618), Telle (629), hoops (642), saldana (643), ntn (653), schmidty (680), CR (712)

[Schmidty]

The late USFL votes are weird to me.

[Barkeep49]

As of 762:

Lynch:
Martin – lerriuqs (597), Chief (713), Purdue (718), ntn (756), Tyrith (759)
Tyrith – Danny (605), Martin (682), saldana (704),
Danny –Lathum (669), Telle (710), Schmidty (721)
USFL – dubb (738), Racer (742), Hoops (761)

CR as Seer –lerriuqs (571), Tyrith (576), saldana (579), CR (712)
dubb as seer – Tyrith (578), Racer (581), dubb (582), lerriuqs (585), dubb (589), Danny (601), lathum (618), Telle (629), hoops (642), saldana (643), ntn (653), schmidty (680), CR (712)

[hoopsguy]

As of Post #761:

Martin – lerriuqs (597), Chief (713), Purdue (718), NTN (756), Tyrith (759)
Tyrith – Danny (605), Martin (682), saldana (704),
Danny – Lathum (669), Telle (710), Schmidty (721)
USFL – dubb (738), Racer (742), Hoops (761)

[Danny]

Looks like I am down to three, USFL up to 3 and Martin up to 5

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

The late USFL votes are weird to me.

USFL showed up, did nothing(not even vote for a seer), which I might add is all we have on Martin right now. USFL stayed in thread for about 10 minutes, which is about what it would take to catch up and then he left without doing ANYTHING at all.

[ntndeacon]

now it looks like Martin 5
Danny USFL Tyrith all at 3

[Danny]

Unvote Tyrith

[Tyrith]

Hoops, anything substantive on your part to back up the vote?

[Chief Rum]

I don't like the non-moves by USFL. But does anyone really think a wolf makes non-moves? Anyone think the other wolves wouldn't be blitzing him in all forms of communication at the moment?

[Danny]

Vote USFL

Let's see if there is any action around this.

[ntndeacon]

ok dubb I will change to USFL. ihave no real horse in the race yet.

Unvote Martin
Vote USFL

[Schmidty]

Fine. Just to make it out of reach and have a resolution, I'll stick my neck out:

Unvote Danny

Vote Martin

[Danny]

What was the case for Martin, I may switch?

[Barkeep49]

Just as any FYI I leave work shortly and will get home about 10 minutes later. So post results around 10:15

[hoopsguy]

Tyrith, not all that much - to a large extent it was a play against you and Danny, who were among the vote leaders. I'm leaning towards good for both of you guys based on your posts on Day 1. Haven't had much time for thought on Day 2, so it isn't factoring as heavily for me.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Danny seems to be playing more aggressively on gut than on logic so far this game, which seems out of character for him. I'm not sure what to make of it, honestly. Wish I had a little more time to re-read some posts - I'm pretty sure that my schedule will lighten up tomorrow and allow me to start digging in a little more.

Is there a reason that people did not continue to explore the runner-up in the lynch yesterday (Lerriuqs)? Did I miss something in terms of reasons for trust? I'm not going to introduce a new candidate now but it seems odd that he has not been a topic of discussion at all over the last couple of pages.

I'm going to double down my bet on Dubb today, for better or worse:

VOTE USFL

I always thought lerriuqs as a wolf made his play yesterday a little too forward. I think he's a misguided villager until I get more evidence he is otherwise. Wouldn't vote him a role, but not necessarily looking to lynch him (yet).

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I don't like the non-moves by USFL. But does anyone really think a wolf makes non-moves? Anyone think the other wolves wouldn't be blitzing him in all forms of communication at the moment?

No, that's pretty much #1 on the wolf no-go list. I think voting on USFL is punishing people for not voting, and I'm fine with that, but I don't think he's any better than 4/15 to be a wolf.

[Danny]

Unvote USFL
Vote MartinD

[Barkeep49]

As of 782:
Lynch:
Martin – lerriuqs (597), Chief (713), Purdue (718), Tyrith (759), Schmidty (776), Danny (782)
Tyrith – Martin (682), saldana (704),
Danny –Lathum (669), Telle (710),
USFL – dubb (738), Racer (742), Hoops (761), ntn (775)

CR as Seer –lerriuqs (571), Tyrith (576), saldana (579), CR (712)
dubb as seer – Tyrith (578), Racer (581), dubb (582), lerriuqs (585), dubb (589), Danny (601), lathum (618), Telle (629), hoops (642), saldana (643), ntn (653), schmidty (680), CR (712)

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I don't like the non-moves by USFL. But does anyone really think a wolf makes non-moves? Anyone think the other wolves wouldn't be blitzing him in all forms of communication at the moment?

That was my EXACT point, Chief. Glad someone else got it.

[Racer]

I don't understand the support for USFL truthfully. There's doesn't seem to be a ton to go on and USFL has done one of the more suspicious things today in my opinion.

[dubb93]

I have lost count of the vote with all this damn deadline switching.

[hoopsguy]

Think this is right, as of Post #779:
Lynch:
Martin – lerriuqs (597), Chief (713), Purdue (718), Tyrith (759), Schmidty (776)
Tyrith – Danny (605), Martin (682), saldana (704),
Danny – Lathum (669), Telle (710)
USFL – dubb (738), Racer (742), Hoops (761), Danny (774), NTN (775)

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

What was the case for Martin, I may switch?

Made active decision to not do belief votes, when our most critical role, the seer, is at stake.

[Tyrith]

Why I'm sticking with Martin over USFL - we know Martin actively made the choice, whereas USFL might have just flaked.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Why I'm sticking with Martin over USFL - we know Martin actively made the choice, whereas USFL might have just flaked.

I'm stuck on the point that he WAS here though. It isn't like he never showed up, he showed up, stayed a while and then left.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Why I'm sticking with Martin over USFL - we know Martin actively made the choice, whereas USFL might have just flaked.

Ditto. Want to see a response from Martin, but given the choices, he seems best to me here.

[dubb93]

Final?

Think this is right, as of Post #779:
Lynch:
Martin – lerriuqs (597), Chief (713), Purdue (718), Tyrith (759), Schmidty (776), Danny (782)
Tyrith – Danny (605), Martin (682), saldana (704),
Danny – Lathum (669), Telle (710)
USFL – dubb (738), Racer (742), Hoops (761), NTN (775)

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by dubb93

I'm stuck on the point that he WAS here though. It isn't like he never showed up, he showed up, stayed a while and then left.

Would a wolf make that move, though? And I have seen USFL play a bit UTR in games (regardless of allegiance). Maybe he's the new Schmidty?

[dubb93]

If nothing else you can say the late run on USFL created movement. That can't be denied.

[Danny]

I think with my switch MartinD is the lynch. I didn't get to put the thought into it I normally like to since I came on so late. Hopefully we end up with a good result.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Would a wolf make that move, though? And I have seen USFL play a bit UTR in games (regardless of allegiance). Maybe he's the new Schmidty?

Oh shit.....You do realize Schmidty is going to read this right?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Final?

Think this is right, as of Post #779:
Lynch:
Martin – lerriuqs (597), Chief (713), Purdue (718), Tyrith (759), Schmidty (776), Danny (782)
Tyrith – Danny (605), Martin (682), saldana (704),
Danny – Lathum (669), Telle (710)
USFL – dubb (738), Racer (742), Hoops (761), NTN (775)

I think so, yes.

[Schmidty]

Ok, Im out for a bit, chopin zee chikin (wish youuu weere her clap)

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Oh shit.....You do realize Schmidty is going to read this right?

Heh...it's okay, Schmidty knows I love him.

Besides, a better choice would have been ntndeacon (ZING! )

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

I think with my switch MartinD is the lynch. I didn't get to put the thought into it I normally like to since I came on so late. Hopefully we end up with a good result.

Cuz putting in a deadline vote yesterday worked out so well for you.