2020 Democratic Primaries/General Election Thread

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by Drake

We're living the horror movie not-dead-yet monster trope.

It's like we know that as soon as we turn our backs, the villain is going to rise up behind us and have to be killed again.

Say what you will about Trump, but it's pretty impressive that the guy has managed to give an entire nation collective PTSD to the extent that we're afraid NOT to stand over the body until we're 100% sure it's dead.

Double Tap is what Zombieland has taught me.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Note the "GONNA BE A CIVIL WAR" shouted by a man in the background at 15s.

Large gathering of Trump supporters outside the Rhode Island Board of Elections headquarters in Cranston, demanding a recount here in RI. @wpri12 pic.twitter.com/skAOmhDMNy
— Corey Welch (@CoreyWelch) November 6, 2020

I have a couple of friends who are conservative New England types and they're an interesting breed. They mostly have it good in life but there's always some perceived slights or minor problems with local government that the rest of us just ignore because there are bigger problems in life. But rather than just complain about it the way the rest of us do, everything's a dramatic production. They're ready to get on their powdered wigs, cosplay the Revolutionary War, and overthrow a tyrannical government all to get rid of a $20 HOA fee.

SI

[Ksyrup]

One of the reddest GA counties with ballots left (Laurens, Trump +29%) reported a batch of ballots today, & Biden won the batch by double-digits.

Trump just won't be closing the gap through mail-in ballots, even if they were all from red areas; in fact a lot from Gwinnett.

— Taniel (@Taniel) November 6, 2020

[Ksyrup]

Hey, the "failing NY Times" wrote an article for me! Seriously, I needed this to push back on some brain-dead Trump supporters in my family. I knew the answer, but this puts some meat on the bones.

NEW: Conservative Twitter exploded yesterday with claims of proof that dead people voted in Michigan.

We looked into it. The evidence indicates that this was not fraud, but rather something much less salacious: Run-of-the-mill clerical errors.https://t.co/XhwD2PYGoa

— Jack Nicas (@jacknicas) November 6, 2020

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Note the "GONNA BE A CIVIL WAR" shouted by a man in the background at 15s.

Large gathering of Trump supporters outside the Rhode Island Board of Elections headquarters in Cranston, demanding a recount here in RI. @wpri12 pic.twitter.com/skAOmhDMNy

— Corey Welch (@CoreyWelch) November 6, 2020

More like gathering of large Trump supporters.

[ISiddiqui]

Georgia is up 4,263!!!!

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by JediKooter

Double Tap is what Zombieland has taught me.

+1 for the zombie reference.

Unfortunately, he's not the Romero slow, lumbering kind but more the WWZ or 28D fast.

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by Edward64

+1 for the zombie reference.

Unfortunately, he's not the Romero slow, lumbering kind but more the WWZ or 28D fast.

Thanks!

Haha! I have to admit, I like how they did it for 28 Days Later and WWZ, but, will always prefer the slow, shuffling zombies.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by JediKooter

Thanks!

Haha! I have to admit, I like how they did it for 28 Days Later and WWZ, but, will always prefer the slow, shuffling zombies.

BTW, I enjoyed Zombieland 2 better than 1 (the Bill Murray storyline was just too "off" for me).

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Edward64

+1 for the zombie reference.

Unfortunately, he's not the Romero slow, lumbering kind but more the WWZ or 28D fast.

Well, the zombies in Zombieland weren’t the Romero slow, lumbering kind, but were pretty quick. Remember Rule 1: Cardio.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Well, the zombies in Zombieland weren’t the Romero slow, lumbering kind, but were pretty quick. Remember Rule 1: Cardio.

Hah, you are right!

[sabotai]

The provisional ballots are being counted in PA now as some counties are finishing up their mail in ballot counting. Pittsburgh and Philly still have a good amount of mail ins to process.

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by Edward64

BTW, I enjoyed Zombieland 2 better than 1 (the Bill Murray storyline was just too "off" for me).

Interesting. I liked Zombieland 2, but, like the first one better. It's not like they are miles apart in my liking them though.

[Edward64]

CNN guy is trying to explain why CNN hasn't called it yet - highest level of confidence etc.

Smells BS'y to me.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Edward64

CNN guy is trying to explain why CNN hasn't called it yet - highest level of confidence etc.

Smells BS'y to me.

Just curious why you say that, I think they are going to slow play it to avoid the inevitable wrath that will come if they are first.

[Ghost Econ]

I like how every few days conservative Twitter freaks out over one of their own getting suspended from Twitter for posting insane conspiracies.

They then all say they're leaving for Parler, aka white nationalist Twitter.

Then they don't leave and just continue posting insane conspiracies on Twitter.

I think all the internet has ever accomplished is making it easier for mentally disturbed people to connect with each other and to no longer be afraid to say stupid shit in public. That's how we have the current GOP.

That and videos of cats trying to jump from a smooth surface and falling into trash cans. Those videos are never not funny.

[Ghost Econ]

Instead of us fighting and going to court, why don’t we have Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin vote again? We can have it done within a week, and maintain our democracy.

— Herschel Walker (@HerschelWalker) November 6, 2020

Dat boy don't think too good.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

Just curious why you say that, I think they are going to slow play it to avoid the inevitable wrath that will come if they are first.

That's why I think it's BS'y. In any other election, it would have been called by now.

They just don't want to be first.

[sabotai]

One of the replies to that tweet

"Maybe Minnesota should get to take that trade back, too"

[molson]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

Instead of us fighting and going to court, why don’t we have Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin vote again? We can have it done within a week, and maintain our democracy.

— Herschel Walker (@HerschelWalker) November 6, 2020

Dat boy don't think too good.

Not as Bad as Aubrey Huff's, but that was still a depressing twitter to peruse.

[kingfc22]

Did all the vote counters go home for the weekend? WTF.

PA was on a roll for awhile and then stopped.

AZ and NV - wish they would just upload in batches instead of these bigger lump sums that stretch it out

[sabotai]

PA has had a slow trickle of what I think are provisional ballot results. They've been collectively a 50/50 split of 3k or so votes.

[AlexB]

Or alternatively just announce the results when all the votes are counted?

[Ksyrup]

I totally don't get the Trump legal strategy in PA suing to stop the counting of late mail votes (which aren't part of the vote total we see) and provisional ballots given that he's losing right now. If those ballots are never counted and we just stop when all the other votes are counted, he LOSES. The ONLY chance he would have is to count every single vote and hope that somehow most are for him. It won't happen, but that's his only option.

Unless there's a separate legal strategy to invalidate other votes already counted, this makes fuck-all sense.

[sabotai]

Biden's lead has grown to 17k now with 2 more small-ish updates that went 75/25 for him.

[AlexB]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I totally don't get the Trump legal strategy in PA suing to stop the counting of late mail votes (which aren't part of the vote total we see) and provisional ballots given that he's losing right now. If those ballots are never counted and we just stop when all the other votes are counted, he LOSES. The ONLY chance he would have is to count every single vote and hope that somehow most are for him. It won't happen, but that's his only option.

Unless there's a separate legal strategy to invalidate other votes already counted, this makes fuck-all sense.

You’re trying to apply logic to an environment where that notion is an anachronism

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I totally don't get the Trump legal strategy in PA suing to stop the counting of late mail votes (which aren't part of the vote total we see) and provisional ballots given that he's losing right now. If those ballots are never counted and we just stop when all the other votes are counted, he LOSES. The ONLY chance he would have is to count every single vote and hope that somehow most are for him. It won't happen, but that's his only option.

Unless there's a separate legal strategy to invalidate other votes already counted, this makes fuck-all sense.

It's the same strategy they use for everything else. Throw so much stupid shit at the wall on the off chance it might stick, while trying to do even dumber, worse stuff in the background so you keep that if the front page for as long as possible.

Also, it rules up the trolls and idiots. It's been the strategy for 5 years.

[Ksyrup]

HAHAHA! So true!

I think the best strategy here would be not to kick but to do that thing babies and dogs do where they go completely limp and produce their own gravitational field becoming completely immovable. https://t.co/XtDAiMgdxY

— Justin Drummond (@tenaciousjdd) November 6, 2020

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

HAHAHA! So true!

I think the best strategy here would be not to kick but to do that thing babies and dogs do where they go completely limp and produce their own gravitational field becoming completely immovable. https://t.co/XtDAiMgdxY

— Justin Drummond (@tenaciousjdd) November 6, 2020

I laughed a lot.

[Ksyrup]

This is truly awful.

“He is currently in hiding.” Fulton Election Director Rick Barron says an election worker at State Farm was falsely accused of throwing out a ballot, video uploaded to Twitter and his personal info including car license plate were released #gapol #Election2020 @wsbtv pic.twitter.com/zGs0gq5F5v

— Nicole Carr (@NicoleCarrWSB) November 6, 2020

[Atocep]

Biden about to go up nearly 20k with the first allghenney county votes about to post.

[Lathum]

I probably know the answer to this, but if the secret service, or whomever, have to perp walk Trump from the White House does that hurt his brand moving forward?

His die hards will of course love it, but would single issue voters or hold their nose but vote him voters be turned off?

[Ksyrup]

"Hold your nose" voters don't like him except for what he could do for them in office. So yeah it hurts his brand with them, but those who have accepted his loss are already done with him.

[sabotai]

Biden's lead now ~19,500 in PA.

[Drake]

If you have to perp walk him out, I'd like to think you'd do it in as humiliating a way as possible.

But the folks who work for the Secret Service are probably 1000 times more professional than I am. They'll do what's best for the country and the reputation of the United States rather than the sort of passive-aggressive petty shit I'd get up to.

[Ksyrup]

Come on MAN. Thus the need for observers - on both sides.

NEW: The GOP member of a vote review panel in Gwinnett, GA repeatedly argued Friday that write-in ballots for Mike Pence as president should count for Donald Trump, the group's Democratic representative tells me.

— Zachary Cohen (@ZcohenCNN) November 6, 2020

[kingfc22]

Hopefully the batch in AZ that will be released in 90 minutes are enough. Then let the floodgates flow.

[kingfc22]

And NV has gone home for the night.

[stevew]

I'd love to see the ballots be checked in Maryland to see if Hogan actually did vote for Ronald Reagan.

And I hear Twitter was already talking about removing Trump's special status once he leaves the white house. So I'm sure he will get banned shortly thereafter.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by stevew

And I hear Twitter was already talking about removing Trump's special status once he leaves the white house. So I'm sure he will get banned shortly thereafter.

The amount of traffic he drives to their site I'll believe it when I see it.

[stevew]

Also my wife had her 7th graders fill in a map today, to see where they thought certain states were. Bonus points for the kid that thought "Glorida" was the state directly above Florida.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by stevew

Also my wife had her 7th graders fill in a map today, to see where they thought certain states were. Bonus points for the kid that thought "Glorida" was the state directly above Florida.

That's actually the strip of Florida from Pensacola to Jacksonville, starting just north of Ocala.

[Ksyrup]

So about those 9K "missing" (Trump's words) military ballots. It looks like this may be in the dozens, at best, if Gwinnett is any indication.

As of this morning, there were ~8,400 military/overseas ballots requested but still unreturned in Georgia. The deadline was 5 p.m. In Gwinnett County, the 2nd largest county, they only received THREE more of these ballots today before the deadline, according to @JGambleCNN.

— Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) November 7, 2020

[Ksyrup]

SC orders PA to do what it has been doing - segregate late ballots - but doesn't tell them to stop counting them. GOP on a roll! Nothing is going to stop Trump's comeback now!

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

So about those 9K "missing" (Trump's words) military ballots. It looks like this may be in the dozens, at best, if Gwinnett is any indication.

As of this morning, there were ~8,400 military/overseas ballots requested but still unreturned in Georgia. The deadline was 5 p.m. In Gwinnett County, the 2nd largest county, they only received THREE more of these ballots today before the deadline, according to @JGambleCNN.
— Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) November 7, 2020

This is like the North Carolina situation. There are like thousands outstanding but very few are actually going to come in, which is why it most likely ends red unless there's something with provisional ballots

SI

[BYU 14]

So what is the impact of the ruling to separate all mail in ballots received late in PA, I haven't seen a number attached to this anywhere yet.

[Ksyrup]

A few thousand. Won't be material, and they aren't even baked into the vote count we see. It's a nothing burger - even if 100% of them went to Trump.

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

So about those 9K "missing" (Trump's words) military ballots. It looks like this may be in the dozens, at best, if Gwinnett is any indication.

As of this morning, there were ~8,400 military/overseas ballots requested but still unreturned in Georgia. The deadline was 5 p.m. In Gwinnett County, the 2nd largest county, they only received THREE more of these ballots today before the deadline, according to @JGambleCNN.

— Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) November 7, 2020

Wonder if they hadn't screwed with the postal service if more of the ballots would've made it in time...

[whomario]

Originally Posted by rjolley

Wonder if they hadn't screwed with the postal service if more of the ballots would've made it in time...

International mail likely slower as well due to the Pandemic and general increase in workload (if Germany is any indication).

Damned shame though it is, i have to wonder how there isn't some sort of system in place for millitary votes at least (other overseas ballots i from stuff like embassies too i guess). I mean, why can't the millitary organise the shipping and distributing in some way ? (At least up to certain regional hubs). It's not like they don't ship shit all over all the time anyway.

[Ksyrup]

Or scared their own voters into believing mail-in was fraudulent, unreliable, etc.