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Old 11-06-2007, 02:41 PM   #351
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Just checking in after waking up. I'll have to peruse the thread a bit later, as I have to pick up my daughter and eat lunch.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:42 PM   #352
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Yup, that and because cronin pointed me as having a tail, the assumption would be that I would wanna kill him which is completely untrue.

Why would someone with a tail want to kill Tinkerbelle? I don't get that.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:43 PM   #353
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Olie you can not be the killer of little red and still be bad.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:45 PM   #354
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Olie you can not be the killer of little red and still be bad.


I don't understand this sentence at all.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:46 PM   #355
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On the flip side, I know I have to eliminate a bad guy myself.. but like the clarification I asked of Render this morning, he stated eliminate can also mean vote off for 24 hours+

That's very interesting, because I also have to eliminate a bad guy, but it specifically says they need to be killed and just lynched doesn't count.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:47 PM   #356
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I don't understand this sentence at all.

It took me about five readings before I got it. I THINK he's saying that she could be bad regardless of whether or not she killed Little Red Riding Hood. So even if she isn't the killer, that doesn't clear her.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:47 PM   #357
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There are the overall bad guys (the wolves, mice, evil mastermind),.

Ok, I could be dense, but why are the mice bad?
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:49 PM   #358
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I don't understand this sentence at all.

Ditto.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:50 PM   #359
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Then blind Mice got all uppity and tried to rally people, but all they rallied was a huge round of laughter. What good could 3 blind mice do?

So here’s the thing. SOMEWHERE in fairy tale land, there are some wolves, some mice and some pigs. And the regular populace wants them all found and dealt with so that some semblance of normalcy can return. The only problem with this plan is that the populace is scheming for their own ends as well.

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Ok, I could be dense, but why are the mice bad?

I read the above to mean the mice were bad. I could be reading that totally wrong.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:51 PM   #360
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Ok, I could be dense, but why are the mice bad?

Are you man or mouse?

Sorry, couldn't resist
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:53 PM   #361
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Why would someone with a tail want to kill Tinkerbelle? I don't get that.

Sorry, I don't think I explained myself very well. What I mean is someone could say, "hey, cronin said DC has a tail! whoa, cronin's dead, DC must have killed him because he pointed her out, let's vote for her"... catch my drift?
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:57 PM   #362
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I read the above to mean the mice were bad. I could be reading that totally wrong.

I read that to mean they are a faction (like the pigs listed above are a faction) but not necessarily the uber-bad-one or an uber-bad-one that we need to eliminate
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:58 PM   #363
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someone save telle!!!!
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:06 PM   #364
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We should at least wait on OG until Telle dies, right?

I've seen villager kills where they've gotten a bad guy, and kills where they've gotten a good one. We should at least wait and see.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:13 PM   #365
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We should at least wait on OG until Telle dies, right?

I've seen villager kills where they've gotten a bad guy, and kills where they've gotten a good one. We should at least wait and see.

Well I'd personally prefer to live, if that's alright by you.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:14 PM   #366
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DT - are you allowed to comment?

Anxiety - I'm of the same opinion that you are on Oliegirl. I'm inclined to see how this plays out before throwing her under the bus. Of course, if someone does save Telle then we aren't going to be able to interpret Olie's actions.

For what it is worth, I thinking Olie's motivations are exactly what she says they were in the thread mainly because that is consistent with what I've seen of her play in previous games. No idea if she made a good decision or a bad one, but I'm unlikely to vote for her today.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:15 PM   #367
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Dola - not trying to be a jerk, DT. Just making sure I understand the rules for what happens when someone is moved to the bog.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:16 PM   #368
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well PB do you want to confirm what Olie has said?

He did in post 236...

Guys, I didn't kill Telle...she is "saveable"...I took a chance and it ended being a mistake, don't sit there and tell me that you guys haven't made mistakes in WW before.

I'm telling you, I'm not a bad guy.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:17 PM   #369
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sorry. i posted and i wasn't supposed to. *clamping my mouth shut*
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:25 PM   #370
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He did in post 236...

Guys, I didn't kill Telle...she is "saveable"...I took a chance and it ended being a mistake, don't sit there and tell me that you guys haven't made mistakes in WW before.

I'm telling you, I'm not a bad guy.

And if we lynch you then you're technically still "saveable" too.. and without a 12 noon expiration date even.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:29 PM   #371
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Telle, can you give me a reason why I would want to use my potion (only know color) to try and save you rather than doing something else with it? Can you convince me that you are worth my taking a chance on you?
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:31 PM   #372
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- can anyone vouch for you yet at this point in the game?
- is your role an important one for my personal victory conditions?
- is your role an important one for the overall success of the "village", whatever the heck that means this game?

Just throwing out a couple of areas where you could say something that would help me make a decision. I've held off on my second action for the day to allow time for this.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:35 PM   #373
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- can anyone vouch for you yet at this point in the game?
- is your role an important one for my personal victory conditions?
- is your role an important one for the overall success of the "village", whatever the heck that means this game?

Just throwing out a couple of areas where you could say something that would help me make a decision. I've held off on my second action for the day to allow time for this.

Hoops...who are you talking to here???
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:36 PM   #374
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- can anyone vouch for you yet at this point in the game?
- is your role an important one for my personal victory conditions?
- is your role an important one for the overall success of the "village", whatever the heck that means this game?

Just throwing out a couple of areas where you could say something that would help me make a decision. I've held off on my second action for the day to allow time for this.

1. Not that I know of.
2. No idea.. I don't know your role or your personal victory conditions.
3. No idea.. my role PM didn't say anything about wolves or pigs or mice.

And quite honestly, I have no idea if your potion would cure me or finish me off. So I'd say save the potion until tomorrow and we'll see if there's anything to figure out after deadline comes.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:37 PM   #375
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One point did come up a bit ago and I'll throw everyone a bone here.

If for whatever reason someone cannot complete their victory conditions, They cannot win the game.

However, if they are alive at the point that the wolves are totally eliminated then the Fairy Tale Characters al win a minor victory of their own, and the Pigs get a SUPERIOR one.

Hope that helps =)
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:38 PM   #376
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Ok, so the wolves are the wolves? And everyone else are the villagers? Basically? (with the possible exception of a wolf-ally or two?)
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:43 PM   #377
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Hoops...who are you talking to here???

Telle. Anyone else who feels like answering those questions can feel free to do so, but since I'm trying to figure out whether to attempt a save with my potion of unknown capabilities, I figure I might have a chance of getting answers from her to help me make a good call.

Olie - do you think that someone should try to save Telle at this point? If so, what has changed from when you used the potion on her initially?
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:48 PM   #378
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Ok, so the wolves are the wolves? And everyone else are the villagers? Basically? (with the possible exception of a wolf-ally or two?)


basically.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:49 PM   #379
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And quite honestly, I have no idea if your potion would cure me or finish me off. So I'd say save the potion until tomorrow and we'll see if there's anything to figure out after deadline comes.

How would the deadline results impact your poisoned condition? Also, I will almost certainly be passing my potion rather than holding onto it (now that I've announced it) so the decision tomorrow would rest with someone else.

If you would prefer I not use it today, that is fine and I'll stop considering it. But I didn't understand the reasoning about what tomorrow might bring as it relates to your health.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:50 PM   #380
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Ok, so the wolves are the wolves? And everyone else are the villagers? Basically? (with the possible exception of a wolf-ally or two?)

RendeR's quote also confirms that there are pigs in the game. Something that I did not know until now.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:54 PM   #381
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How would the deadline results impact your poisoned condition? Also, I will almost certainly be passing my potion rather than holding onto it (now that I've announced it) so the decision tomorrow would rest with someone else.

If you would prefer I not use it today, that is fine and I'll stop considering it. But I didn't understand the reasoning about what tomorrow might bring as it relates to your health.

Well you or I may gain information as to whether we should have more or less trust for each other.. which could help you decide whether or not you want to help me and me decide whether or not I should accept that help. Someone may decide to kill me overnight, which would make the use of the potion a waste. Someone might actually find something labeled "antidote". Basically there's just more chance for all of us to have more info to go on.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:55 PM   #382
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I'd agree on the fact that you might as well use the potion tomorrow instead...
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:01 PM   #383
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ntndeaon (1) - Chief Rum (228)
Oliegirl (3) - Alan T (309) Telle (320) Jeheinz72 (347)
Dodgerchick (1) - ntndeacon (280)


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Old 11-06-2007, 04:03 PM   #384
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ntndeaon (1) - Chief Rum (228)
Oliegirl (3) - Alan T (309) Telle (320) Jeheinz72 (347)
Dodgerchick (2) - St. Cronin (271) ntndeacon (280)


Ummm... st.cronin/Tinkerbell is dead.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:09 PM   #385
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Good Point! Corrected.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:14 PM   #386
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I'd agree on the fact that you might as well use the potion tomorrow instead...

Except for the fact that, as I noted earlier, I'll be giving someone else the opportunity to make that decision.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:15 PM   #387
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Except for the fact that, as I noted earlier, I'll be giving someone else the opportunity to make that decision.

True, so pass it to someone you think is smart and good!
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:17 PM   #388
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RendeR, does the act of passing an item consume an action point?

I've already used on action today to determine if Mr. Wednesday is my ally (I've only got one ally, as far as I know). So I've got one left. Would I have to burn that action to pass my potion or would it be a zero point action (like moving) thus allowing me to search/spy/whatever?
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:25 PM   #389
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RendeR, does the act of passing an item consume an action point?

I've already used on action today to determine if Mr. Wednesday is my ally (I've only got one ally, as far as I know). So I've got one left. Would I have to burn that action to pass my potion or would it be a zero point action (like moving) thus allowing me to search/spy/whatever?

I asked Render about this earlier regarding an item I found. he said that passing an item did not count as one of my two actions.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:26 PM   #390
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vote dodgerchick

I'm about to head home. I think if Telle dies and turns up good I'm sure there is someone out there that can eliminate O-girl for us and this allows Dodger to semi-remain in the game...I feel it's the most fair....well except for Telle who might die.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:56 PM   #391
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unvote oliegirl

vote dodgerchick


You may not be bad, i admit that, but there are bad people with a tail, so there is a chance.

Add into that the fact that the person I need to find doesn't have a tail, and you're the best option for me.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:57 PM   #392
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I just read everything. I have no idea who to vote for.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:02 PM   #393
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Well, I found out some information and I'm not sure what to think of it. But someone sure does stink... real bad. So bad my eyes watered for quite a while. Bad guy/girl? Or good guy/girl? Hmm... no way to find out 'til later. Can you guys think of any characters that leave a stench behind?

I'm going out for a while and will probably return by deadline.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:02 PM   #394
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If I have to decide between Dodgerchick (who may or may not have a tail) and Oliegirl (who actually poisoned someone) it's an easy decision.

VOTE OLIEGIRL

Very suspicious of DC voters.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:07 PM   #395
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Well, I found out some information and I'm not sure what to think of it. But someone sure does stink... real bad. So bad my eyes watered for quite a while. Bad guy/girl? Or good guy/girl? Hmm... no way to find out 'til later. Can you guys think of any characters that leave a stench behind?

I'm going out for a while and will probably return by deadline.

Okay, I just re-read my PM and realized that this might not be the case and it has more to do with where I was... i swear... sometimes I need to think before I post.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:08 PM   #396
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Well, I found out some information and I'm not sure what to think of it. But someone sure does stink... real bad. So bad my eyes watered for quite a while. Bad guy/girl? Or good guy/girl? Hmm... no way to find out 'til later. Can you guys think of any characters that leave a stench behind?

I'm going out for a while and will probably return by deadline.

First thought - oink, oink. Beyond that, I would have to take a look at the character list.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:09 PM   #397
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If I have to decide between Dodgerchick (who may or may not have a tail) ....

Very suspicious of DC voters.

Cronin/Tinkerbelle stated she had a tail. Can you come up with a scenario where he would lie about this?
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:11 PM   #398
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Well, I found out some information and I'm not sure what to think of it. But someone sure does stink... real bad. So bad my eyes watered for quite a while. Bad guy/girl? Or good guy/girl? Hmm... no way to find out 'til later. Can you guys think of any characters that leave a stench behind?

I'm going out for a while and will probably return by deadline.

This happened to me just now as well when spying on someone.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:13 PM   #399
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shit, I just realized i won't be here for deadline

vote oliegirl

Self preservation vote obviously.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:24 PM   #400
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O don;t think DC is a bad guy because cronin turned up dead.

As a bad guy, I regularly look for opportunities to kill someone that will make people go after a villager. Killing cronin right after she slung at DC makes her look bad, ergo it is a good tactic to use.

On the other hamd, in this game, we have multiplae bad guys, so that strategy is not as useful and hte bad guys might mess up or be actiavelty hunting each other as well as us.

With that in mind, although nor,mally I would think this actually clears DC a tiny bit, I have to cinsider her a likely suspect.

I'd be happy to consider others if people would likew to propose alterantes, and I'm not even sure enought o vote yet, I'm just staing where I;m at right now.
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