Werewolf LXIII - Fall of the Elementals (Game Over - Avatars Win!) - Page 10

Mr. Wednesday · 12-13-2007, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Votes as of Post #414:

Swaggs - Saldana (382), SnDvls (400)
Clap - Cronin (406), Lathum (408)
Lathum - JEHeinz (333), Clap (402)
Cronin - Barkeep (270)
Hoops - Schmidty (378)

Not voted: Hoops, Path, JE, Swaggs, MrW

Since this, claphamsa unvoted Lathum, cronin unvoted claphamsa and switched to SnDvls, Hoops voted claphamsa, and path12 voted SnDvls.

That would make still two on claphamsa, two on SnDvls, two on Swaggs, one each on Lathum, st.cronin, and hoopsguy.

claphamsa · 12-13-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Since this, claphamsa unvoted Lathum, cronin unvoted claphamsa and switched to SnDvls, Hoops voted claphamsa, and path12 voted SnDvls.

That would make still two on claphamsa, two on SnDvls, two on Swaggs, one each on Lathum, st.cronin, and hoopsguy.

hhm, Im guessing well see some defensive shifting in abotu 25 min!

Swaggs · 12-13-2007, 08:32 PM

I'm going to have to go defensive here, but I don't have much else to go on. I'm going to go with SnDvls, as there was a lot of movement yesterday to get off of hoops and him at the deadline. I'd honestly rather go with hoops, but I'm in danger right now, so...

Vote SnDvls

Mr. Wednesday · 12-13-2007, 08:32 PM

I don't intend on this being permanent if the ties hold, but...

VOTE st.cronin

The more the merrier.

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:35 PM

I think this is correct, as of Post #454, but would appreciate someone checking my work:

SnDvls - Cronin (426), Path (443), Swaggs (453)
Swaggs - Saldana (382), SnDvls (400)
Clap - Lathum (408), Hoops (432)
Cronin - Barkeep (270), MrW (454)
Hoops - Schmidty (378)
Lathum - JEHeinz (333)

Not voted: JE, Clap

claphamsa · 12-13-2007, 08:35 PM

WWHHHEEEEEE lets take a leap! (Ill jump later!)

Mr. Wednesday · 12-13-2007, 08:37 PM

hoops, your total looks correct relative to your previous count.

Mr. Wednesday · 12-13-2007, 08:37 PM

I see JE is in the thread now.

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:38 PM

JE, skip to the end and tell us if you used your power on Path last night

saldana · 12-13-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

We really need to call jeheinz JEH or JH. JE is the only usable shorthand for Ezarik.

there is always "jon"

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

I don't intend on this being permanent if the ties hold, but...

VOTE st.cronin

The more the merrier.

Why Cronin?

claphamsa · 12-13-2007, 08:39 PM

Ok, gettign nervouis

vote cronin!

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

there is always "jon"

Controversial.

saldana · 12-13-2007, 08:40 PM

interesting...two late votes to put cronin in the noose.

claphamsa · 12-13-2007, 08:42 PM

Mine is 100% defensive if that makes you feel better!

Mr. Wednesday · 12-13-2007, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Why Cronin?

To produce a three-way tie and see what happens next. His handling of the voting on day 1 didn't give me the best vibe, but he usually doesn't give me the best vibe so I can't really take that as indicating anything one way or another.

Jonathan Ezarik · 12-13-2007, 08:43 PM

Sorry, been out all day Christmas shopping.

I didn't use my power last night. I had the option to use the ability to change a power, but I didn't want to risk it. I felt like it was a blind shot and could end up hurting us if I picked incorrectly.

Mr. Wednesday · 12-13-2007, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

Mine is 100% defensive if that makes you feel better!

Uh, you were not on the block. Close, but not there. And if you want to be defensive, you should unvote cronin and vote SnDvls to make the total 4 - 2.

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:44 PM

Well, it is a two-way tie with two other candidates one back with about 15 to play if I've got the votes right. As of Post #466:

SnDvls - Cronin (426), Path (443), Swaggs (453)
Cronin - Barkeep (270), MrW (454), Clap (462)
Swaggs - Saldana (382), SnDvls (400)
Clap - Lathum (408), Hoops (432)
Hoops - Schmidty (378)
Lathum - JEHeinz (333)

Not voted: JE

Jonathan Ezarik · 12-13-2007, 08:45 PM

I had a quick run through the thread to try to catch up, so please forgive my asking this. Did SnDvls admit to using his power to change a power last night?

saldana · 12-13-2007, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

Mine is 100% defensive if that makes you feel better!

not really...you werent in the vote lead, or even tied for it.

SnDvls · 12-13-2007, 08:46 PM

unvote swaggs
vote St. C

defensive vote

claphamsa · 12-13-2007, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Uh, you were not on the block. Close, but not there. And if you want to be defensive, you should unvote cronin and vote SnDvls to make the total 4 - 2.

Im close enough! And i was on it an hour ago! im skeeeered, I have no boss in town next week, and I need SOMETHIGN to do in the office!

SnDvls · 12-13-2007, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I had a quick run through the thread to try to catch up, so please forgive my asking this. Did SnDvls admit to using his power to change a power last night?

yes I did

saldana · 12-13-2007, 08:47 PM

i could be convinced to vote Clap if anyone wants to go with me...i am not gonna make it a 3 way tie

Lathum · 12-13-2007, 08:47 PM

unvote clap
vote sndvls

saldana · 12-13-2007, 08:48 PM

sndvls...who do you feel worse about, cronin or clap?

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:49 PM

Interesting, JE says he could have used his power under Squid but did not. That would be three people with that ability last night, since two people were impacted.

I thought there was a chance that Path was bluffing earlier, but he came out first with the impact of the power and Cronin seems to accept his version of events. And Cronin was definitely tweaked last night - I saw it.

Jonathan Ezarik · 12-13-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

yes I did

Ok, in that case:

VOTE SNDVLS

I don't see how using that power with absolutely no information to go on helps us.

Mr. Wednesday · 12-13-2007, 08:49 PM

Lathum, that's a very interesting move.

saldana · 12-13-2007, 08:49 PM

never mind

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I had a quick run through the thread to try to catch up, so please forgive my asking this. Did SnDvls admit to using his power to change a power last night?

He has, and I saw him do so.

claphamsa · 12-13-2007, 08:49 PM

hhmmm, well i dont need to be defensive now! But its a run away for sundevils.! I could switch if i had to, but that was some QUICK voting away form cronin.....

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:51 PM

Votes as of Post #483:
SnDvls - Cronin (426), Path (443), Swaggs (453), Lathum (476), JE (479)
Cronin - Barkeep (270), MrW (454), Clap (462), SnDvls (472)
Swaggs - Saldana (382)
Clap - Hoops (432)
Hoops - Schmidty (378)
Lathum - JEHeinz (333)

Lathum · 12-13-2007, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Lathum, that's a very interesting move.

why?

it's clear clap wasn't getting lynched and I trust cronin more

Mr. Wednesday · 12-13-2007, 08:52 PM

It wasn't entirely clear until you made that move, and clap had made an odd "defensive" move that actually still left him in jeopardy only a single vote clear.

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:54 PM

Just so we are clear, unless the killer also gets to use powers, we aren't going to get the killer from last night with this vote. Which means, statistically, that we are not taking an optimum shot at getting an Avatar today.

SnDvls · 12-13-2007, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

sndvls...who do you feel worse about, cronin or clap?

cronin

Mr. Wednesday · 12-13-2007, 08:55 PM

How do you figure those odds? I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I also don't think it's obvious that you're right.

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:55 PM

I would have much preferred a Swaggs/Clap runoff to these two candidates. So I'm probably going to sit this one out rather than make a late vote change like I did last night unless someone comes up with a great reason quickly.

SnDvls · 12-13-2007, 08:56 PM

I will be using my duke role today

Mr. Wednesday · 12-13-2007, 08:56 PM

I could flip to clap, but I'd need at least a couple more people to do it with me.

SnDvls · 12-13-2007, 08:57 PM

my hand has been forced

Swaggs is my choice

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

How do you figure those odds? I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I also don't think it's obvious that you're right.

Well, lets say that there are three Avatars. A random choice, excluding yourself as an Elemental, leaves a 25% chance of hitting an Avatar (3/12). However, if you take someone who wasn't a killer last night then you are now reducing your shot to only two candidates instead of three candidates.

All of this is based on the idea of not being able to use both a power and be able to kill. I would consider that to be the more "standard" werewolf metric, although there certainly have been exceptions.

Lathum · 12-13-2007, 08:57 PM

unvote sndvls
vote clap

Lathum · 12-13-2007, 08:58 PM

lets get Clap!!!!!!!!

saldana · 12-13-2007, 08:58 PM

just a reminder (since i forgot until this moment), that CW is not going to be on, so results will not be anytime soon

Mr. Wednesday · 12-13-2007, 08:59 PM

hoops, the math gets complicated because we have to count who has and has not used a power in figuring the chances.

UNVOTE st.cronin
VOTE claphamsa

hoopsguy · 12-13-2007, 08:59 PM

Votes as of Post #497:
SnDvls - Cronin (426), Path (443), Swaggs (453), JE (479)
Cronin - Barkeep (270), MrW (454), Clap (462), SnDvls (472)
Clap - Hoops (432), Lathum (495)
Swaggs - Saldana (382)
Hoops - Schmidty (378)
Lathum - JEHeinz (333)

Swaggs · 12-13-2007, 08:59 PM

Hmmmm...

Unvote SnDvls

Vote stcronin

12-13-2007, 08:32 PM	#453
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm going to have to go defensive here, but I don't have much else to go on. I'm going to go with SnDvls, as there was a lot of movement yesterday to get off of hoops and him at the deadline. I'd honestly rather go with hoops, but I'm in danger right now, so... Vote SnDvls __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-13-2007, 08:32 PM	#454
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	I don't intend on this being permanent if the ties hold, but... VOTE st.cronin The more the merrier. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

12-13-2007, 08:35 PM	#456
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	WWHHHEEEEEE lets take a leap! (Ill jump later!) __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

12-13-2007, 08:37 PM	#457
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	hoops, your total looks correct relative to your previous count. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

12-13-2007, 08:37 PM	#458
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	I see JE is in the thread now. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

12-13-2007, 08:35 PM	#455
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I think this is correct, as of Post #454, but would appreciate someone checking my work: SnDvls - Cronin (426), Path (443), Swaggs (453) Swaggs - Saldana (382), SnDvls (400) Clap - Lathum (408), Hoops (432) Cronin - Barkeep (270), MrW (454) Hoops - Schmidty (378) Lathum - JEHeinz (333) Not voted: JE, Clap

12-13-2007, 08:38 PM	#459
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	JE, skip to the end and tell us if you used your power on Path last night

12-13-2007, 08:39 PM	#462
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Ok, gettign nervouis vote cronin! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

12-13-2007, 08:40 PM	#464
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	interesting...two late votes to put cronin in the noose.

12-13-2007, 08:42 PM	#465
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Mine is 100% defensive if that makes you feel better! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

12-13-2007, 08:43 PM	#467
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Sorry, been out all day Christmas shopping. I didn't use my power last night. I had the option to use the ability to change a power, but I didn't want to risk it. I felt like it was a blind shot and could end up hurting us if I picked incorrectly.

12-13-2007, 08:44 PM	#469
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Well, it is a two-way tie with two other candidates one back with about 15 to play if I've got the votes right. As of Post #466: SnDvls - Cronin (426), Path (443), Swaggs (453) Cronin - Barkeep (270), MrW (454), Clap (462) Swaggs - Saldana (382), SnDvls (400) Clap - Lathum (408), Hoops (432) Hoops - Schmidty (378) Lathum - JEHeinz (333) Not voted: JE

12-13-2007, 08:45 PM	#470
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	I had a quick run through the thread to try to catch up, so please forgive my asking this. Did SnDvls admit to using his power to change a power last night?

12-13-2007, 08:46 PM	#472
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	unvote swaggs vote St. C defensive vote

12-13-2007, 08:47 PM	#475
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i could be convinced to vote Clap if anyone wants to go with me...i am not gonna make it a 3 way tie

12-13-2007, 08:47 PM	#476
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	unvote clap vote sndvls

12-13-2007, 08:48 PM	#477
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	sndvls...who do you feel worse about, cronin or clap?

12-13-2007, 08:49 PM	#478
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Interesting, JE says he could have used his power under Squid but did not. That would be three people with that ability last night, since two people were impacted. I thought there was a chance that Path was bluffing earlier, but he came out first with the impact of the power and Cronin seems to accept his version of events. And Cronin was definitely tweaked last night - I saw it.

12-13-2007, 08:49 PM	#480
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Lathum, that's a very interesting move. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

12-13-2007, 08:49 PM	#481
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	never mind

12-13-2007, 08:49 PM	#483
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	hhmmm, well i dont need to be defensive now! But its a run away for sundevils.! I could switch if i had to, but that was some QUICK voting away form cronin..... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

12-13-2007, 08:51 PM	#484
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Votes as of Post #483: SnDvls - Cronin (426), Path (443), Swaggs (453), Lathum (476), JE (479) Cronin - Barkeep (270), MrW (454), Clap (462), SnDvls (472) Swaggs - Saldana (382) Clap - Hoops (432) Hoops - Schmidty (378) Lathum - JEHeinz (333)

12-13-2007, 08:52 PM	#486
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	It wasn't entirely clear until you made that move, and clap had made an odd "defensive" move that actually still left him in jeopardy only a single vote clear. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

12-13-2007, 08:54 PM	#487
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Just so we are clear, unless the killer also gets to use powers, we aren't going to get the killer from last night with this vote. Which means, statistically, that we are not taking an optimum shot at getting an Avatar today.

12-13-2007, 08:55 PM	#489
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	How do you figure those odds? I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I also don't think it's obvious that you're right. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

12-13-2007, 08:55 PM	#490
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I would have much preferred a Swaggs/Clap runoff to these two candidates. So I'm probably going to sit this one out rather than make a late vote change like I did last night unless someone comes up with a great reason quickly.

12-13-2007, 08:56 PM	#491
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I will be using my duke role today

12-13-2007, 08:56 PM	#492
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	I could flip to clap, but I'd need at least a couple more people to do it with me. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

12-13-2007, 08:57 PM	#493
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	my hand has been forced Swaggs is my choice

12-13-2007, 08:57 PM	#495
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	unvote sndvls vote clap

12-13-2007, 08:58 PM	#496
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	lets get Clap!!!!!!!!

12-13-2007, 08:58 PM	#497
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	just a reminder (since i forgot until this moment), that CW is not going to be on, so results will not be anytime soon

12-13-2007, 08:59 PM	#498
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	hoops, the math gets complicated because we have to count who has and has not used a power in figuring the chances. UNVOTE st.cronin VOTE claphamsa __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

12-13-2007, 08:59 PM	#499
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Votes as of Post #497: SnDvls - Cronin (426), Path (443), Swaggs (453), JE (479) Cronin - Barkeep (270), MrW (454), Clap (462), SnDvls (472) Clap - Hoops (432), Lathum (495) Swaggs - Saldana (382) Hoops - Schmidty (378) Lathum - JEHeinz (333)

12-13-2007, 08:59 PM	#500
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Hmmmm... Unvote SnDvls Vote stcronin __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?