Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899 - Page 10

ntndeacon · 07-07-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

That's true Pass, but its day 1 and so far no one has come forth with an in-game reason to vote for anybody I think, and Jack Bauer has suggested we vote for ntn amongst others, so hence my vote. Is there another person you think we should be voting for at this point?

I am sure he will agree, but let me say Jack Bauer did not know anything about who I am or what my allegiances might be. The only thing he said about me is Iam quiet. That is the SOLE reason any of you are voting for me.

nfg22 · 07-07-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I will grant you that but neither should the nonsensical goofing around that happened prior to the game actually starting count either.

Are you saying in regards to my posts? Take those two out..I still have been very active.

nfg22 · 07-07-2009, 02:04 PM

edit: take those three out.

nfg22 · 07-07-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I am sure he will agree, but let me say Jack Bauer did not know anything about who I am or what my allegiances might be. The only thing he said about me is Iam quiet. That is the SOLE reason any of you are voting for me.

I believe he didnt say to vote for you but to not vote for Jackal...that was my take at least.

Autumn · 07-07-2009, 02:08 PM

I'm back and fixed, I think.

I'm wary of the bandwagon on ntn myself. I will be voting for Purduebrad right now simply because he's the other main candidate (other than Jackal). I hope to be around to switch if something better comes along.

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

Thomkal · 07-07-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I am sure he will agree, but let me say Jack Bauer did not know anything about who I am or what my allegiances might be. The only thing he said about me is Iam quiet. That is the SOLE reason any of you are voting for me.

quite honestly ntn is there a reason to vote anybody else at this point? Give me an in-game reason to vote someone else and I will consider it. I have nothing against you, we just have to vote for somebody at this point.

Thomkal · 07-07-2009, 02:10 PM

yay Autumn, glad you got it fixed!

Passacaglia · 07-07-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I am sure he will agree, but let me say Jack Bauer did not know anything about who I am or what my allegiances might be. The only thing he said about me is Iam quiet. That is the SOLE reason any of you are voting for me.

ntn, my hunch is The Jackal sent DT a PM telling him what his role was. Is there a reason that you feel uncomfortable doing the same thing at this point?

DaddyTorgo · 07-07-2009, 02:17 PM

this is starting to look a lot like a run...i can always get back into it later, but i don't want any shenanigans to push things over the top

UNVOTE NTNDEACON

DaddyTorgo · 07-07-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nfg22

I believe he didnt say to vote for you but to not vote for Jackal...that was my take at least.

+1

ntndeacon · 07-07-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

ntn, my hunch is The Jackal sent DT a PM telling him what his role was. Is there a reason that you feel uncomfortable doing the same thing at this point?

What makes you think I haven't? As soon as I got back from class I did do that very thing.

DaddyTorgo · 07-07-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

What makes you think I haven't? As soon as I got back from class I did do that very thing.

confirmed

DaddyTorgo · 07-07-2009, 02:20 PM

i believe that in with the people who have sent me roles so far there are doubtless wolves. however i don't think all the wolves have.

therefore my thinking is: choose from those who have and risk taking out a known-quantity villager trying to hit one of the wolves who did, or

b) choose from those who haven't and try to get a wolf and if it's a villager then they will likely reveal to me

so that is what has been informing my decision-making

Passacaglia · 07-07-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

What makes you think I haven't? As soon as I got back from class I did do that very thing.

I guess the silence from DT about it? I figured that if you had, he would have said something, or unvoted you, which he hadn't when I had posted that.

DaddyTorgo · 07-07-2009, 02:23 PM

and a +1 to the person who utilized their power on me. i will not reveal them yet, unless they are under pressure of course.

DaddyTorgo · 07-07-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I guess the silence from DT about it? I figured that if you had, he would have said something, or unvoted you, which he hadn't when I had posted that.

my silence is primarily a result of the 20 different tasks i've been ping-ponging between today

ISiddiqui · 07-07-2009, 02:24 PM

Ok, based on DT's unvote of NTN, I'm going to make a decision:

Vote Purdue Brad

Passacaglia · 07-07-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

my silence is primarily a result of the 20 different tasks i've been ping-ponging between today

No worries, I wasn't even trying to accuse him of not doing it -- I was just trying to help him out in case he hadn't.

ntndeacon · 07-07-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nfg22

Are you saying in regards to my posts? Take those two out..I still have been very active.

I was actually referring to the large number of posts prior to the start of the game regardless of who said them. In fact, I thought a lot of the posts in night 0 were of a similar ilk. That was the reason I did not post then. I couldn't do anything useful at the time. I am hopeful my abilities will become useful as we move along.

Alan T · 07-07-2009, 02:30 PM

Ntn has showed up now and has been active in the conversation since arriving, so I'll wait to hear more from him. Now to consider where to look instead.

Unvote ntndeacon

ntndeacon · 07-07-2009, 02:30 PM

In terms of in game reasons, look at AlanT and Kwhit's votes for me. Especially KWhit's. Alan used the moldy chestnut that I am under the radar too often. Kwit just said it was an interesting horse race before he started to put the "race " out of reach. Therefore
Unvote Jackal
Vote KWhit

Autumn · 07-07-2009, 02:30 PM

I think I've read/skimmed most of the thread but I really need to catchup on things like work, clients, etc. I'll post my thoughts when I can get back.

claphamsa · 07-07-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

and a +1 to the person who utilized their power on me. i will not reveal them yet, unless they are under pressure of course.

+1 what?

Alan T · 07-07-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

In terms of in game reasons, look at AlanT and Kwhit's votes for me. Especially KWhit's. Alan used the moldy chestnut that I am under the radar too often. Kwit just said it was an interesting horse race before he started to put the "race " out of reach. Therefore
Unvote Jackal
Vote KWhit

Lucky for me I moved my vote just before you posted this!

My point still remains though. People who talk often, it is easy to find either holes in their story or some way to confirm what they are believing.

People who just show up, vote and nothing else, I have a very hard time figuring out. So no criticism of your play style, but it is one I always have a tough time figuring out. So if I take a roll of the dice on someone on day 1, without much else to go on, that is as good as anything else.

ntndeacon · 07-07-2009, 02:32 PM

I will say at least Alan's vote had the apperance of a reason which Kwits did not. niether did the first vote of JAG this morning. But as a first vote I overlooked it for now

ntndeacon · 07-07-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Lucky for me I moved my vote just before you posted this!

My point still remains though. People who talk often, it is easy to find either holes in their story or some way to confirm what they are believing.

People who just show up, vote and nothing else, I have a very hard time figuring out. So no criticism of your play style, but it is one I always have a tough time figuring out. So if I take a roll of the dice on someone on day 1, without much else to go on, that is as good as anything else.

It was indeed serendipitous. I wouldn't have had as much problem with your reason if it had been the first to mention it. Yes I am quieter than several here. I am rarely going to have as many posts as Danny or you for instance. There are some I do pass, even before they get voted out.

JAG · 07-07-2009, 02:38 PM

I actually gave my reason in a post before the voting one so I didn't feel a need to rehash it. I'm glad to see you actively engaged now. At this moment I'm keeping my vote on you, but it's not set in stone.

nfg22 · 07-07-2009, 02:39 PM

I'll go with NTN here. Seems he is stepping up.

UNVOTE NTN DEACON
VOTE KWHIT

JAG · 07-07-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

It was indeed serendipitous. I wouldn't have had as much problem with your reason if it had been the first to mention it. Yes I am quieter than several here. I am rarely going to have as many posts as Danny or you for instance. There are some I do pass, even before they get voted out.

I don't think everyone needs to be a post whore, but the village needs everyone's help providing at least some analysis, thoughts on suspicious activity that others may have missed, and so forth for reasons that Alan laid out above.

Alan T · 07-07-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

It was indeed serendipitous. I wouldn't have had as much problem with your reason if it had been the first to mention it. Yes I am quieter than several here. I am rarely going to have as many posts as Danny or you for instance. There are some I do pass, even before they get voted out.

Yeah, I didn't figure there was a need to be the first to mention it since it is a pretty common philosophy in most every game anyways. My two options usually in the early game is to either wait until late to vote and try to go with my gut instinct based on the day 1 action, or to go with someone who is under the radar with the assumption that if I am wrong it might hurt us less than going after someone who if bad will lynch themselves with their own actions later on.

Since this game there is no fixed deadline to get a vote in before later on, and I'm simply not able to be here as much this game to get a great read on people, I chose option B.

ntndeacon · 07-07-2009, 02:41 PM

ok JAG, I must have missed it. I will go back and look for it.

KWhit · 07-07-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I will say at least Alan's vote had the apperance of a reason which Kwits did not. niether did the first vote of JAG this morning. But as a first vote I overlooked it for now

For the record, I voted for you because you were almost completely silent in the game at the time (which is why I pointed out a few posts after my vote that you had only 2 posts in the thread at the time and that one of those was the sign up post). Just because I didn't say "I am voting for NTN because he hasn't said a single meaningful word in the thread as of yet" doesn't mean that I didn't have a reason.

JAG · 07-07-2009, 02:45 PM

As of Post 486:

4 - The Jackal: Purdue Brad (328, 8:16 AM) saldana (343, 9:10 am), Tyrith (388, 10:40 AM), claphamsa (453, 1:55 PM)
1 - BrianD: Pass (330, 8:23 AM)
6 - ntndeacon: JAG (332, 8:31 AM) path (360, 9:42 am), The Jackal (374, 10:26 AM), KWhit (390, 10:45 AM), kingfc22 (425, 12:22 PM), Thomkal (441, 1:42 PM)
5 - PurdueBrad: EagleFan (334, 8:59 AM), Telle (411, 11:51 AM), BrianD (443, 1:43 PM), Autumn (459, 2:08 PM), ISiddiqui (471, 2:24 PM)
2 - KWhit: ntndeacon (475, 2:30 PM), nfg22 (482, 2:39 PM)

Yet to vote: Danny, Schmidty, Chief Rum, henry296, DaddyTorgo, AlanT

By %:

ntndeacon: 25%
PurdueBrad: 21%
The Jackal: 21%
KWhit: 8%
BrianD: 4%

DaddyTorgo · 07-07-2009, 02:48 PM

FYI everyone - this is the worst possible day for this to happen, but i am swamped at work with trying to get some stuff out the door by the time i leave. So i have a bunch of people's PM's that i want to respond to, but I'm under the gun. Be patient with me.

claphamsa · 07-07-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

FYI everyone - this is the worst possible day for this to happen, but i am swamped at work with trying to get some stuff out the door by the time i leave. So i have a bunch of people's PM's that i want to respond to, but I'm under the gun. Be patient with me.

do you still have the 4 limit we all do?

ntndeacon · 07-07-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

For the record, I voted for you because you were almost completely silent in the game at the time (which is why I pointed out a few posts after my vote that you had only 2 posts in the thread at the time and that one of those was the sign up post). Just because I didn't say "I am voting for NTN because he hasn't said a single meaningful word in the thread as of yet" doesn't mean that I didn't have a reason.

True, however it also happens to be with a surge making it less of a two horse race and into a avalanche of support for my exit form the game. That raises my suspicions. I imagine (if I survive) that I will have a stronger view on someone tomorrow. At least in terms of a day one vote, that gives a stronger reason to vote than they havent said anything thus far.

JAG · 07-07-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

ok JAG, I must have missed it. I will go back and look for it.

End of post 319 or 320 (I forget now). It was basically the same reason as everyone else, you hadn't said anything other than to check in.

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Originally Posted by JAG

My vote will almost assuredly go to someone who is not contributing much.

KWhit · 07-07-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

True, however it also happens to be with a surge making it less of a two horse race and into a avalanche of support for my exit form the game. That raises my suspicions. I imagine (if I survive) that I will have a stronger view on someone tomorrow. At least in terms of a day one vote, that gives a stronger reason to vote than they havent said anything thus far.

No. At the time I made my vote, it was only a one vote advantage for the jackal (I made it 2 - still anything but a runaway this early in the 24 time period). So I wanted to keep it at a 2 horse race and picked the person who hadn't really posted in the thread. That's all.

path12 · 07-07-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I am sure he will agree, but let me say Jack Bauer did not know anything about who I am or what my allegiances might be. The only thing he said about me is Iam quiet. That is the SOLE reason any of you are voting for me.

That was my main reason, and I may have been first IIRC.

Is there anyone who hasn't checked in yet? I don't have time to go back and check.

Danny · 07-07-2009, 03:01 PM

Not too much to go on here. Right now I am leaning towards a Kwhit or PB vote.

KWhit · 07-07-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

That was my main reason, and I may have been first IIRC.

Is there anyone who hasn't checked in yet? I don't have time to go back and check.

The lowest post counts now from people in the game are:

henry296 - 3
Chief Rum - 4

path12 · 07-07-2009, 03:03 PM

UNVOTE NTNDEACON

Let's see how the next couple hours develop.

DaddyTorgo · 07-07-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

do you still have the 4 limit we all do?

some of you may receive PM's in response - all of you certainly will not. That's as much as I'm willing to say - I don't want to let too much about powers slip out there.

I'm having to respond to the PM's where I feel it can make the most impact.

JAG · 07-07-2009, 03:05 PM

If I were to change my vote, I would rather go with BrianD than KWhit. Reasoning being that a. DT said he didn't have a read on him in post 401 and b. He was the first to put someone (The Jackal) at 3 votes breaking a 4-way tie of 2 votes.

DaddyTorgo · 07-07-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

The lowest post counts now from people in the game are:

henry296 - 3
Chief Rum - 4

FWIW I do not have any idea what either of them are.

nfg22 · 07-07-2009, 03:10 PM

Im down for anyone...i just need a reason...my votes are never set in stone.

saldana · 07-07-2009, 03:22 PM

well with what is going on, i need to change, but i hate runaways at the beginning..too many places to hide.

unvote the jackal
vote purduebrad

Tyrith · 07-07-2009, 03:22 PM

Frankly, I'm pretty confused about what we're trying to accomplish here. I'll vote for whoever - I've got nothing - but doesn't it generally behoove us to stick to the same guys and make the wolves actually pick a side, instead of squirming around? The movement gives a lot of cover to setting up a lynch they want, I think.

Tyrith · 07-07-2009, 03:26 PM

Now PB has 6 votes, ntn has 5, and Jackal has 3. But we only have one candidate with any momentum - PB. This needs to not turn into a runaway.

DaddyTorgo · 07-07-2009, 03:27 PM

you're right Tyrith - runaway's tell us nothing. close votes often tell us nothing if we have 2 villagers, but at least have the potential to tell us something.

07-07-2009, 02:17 PM	#459
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	this is starting to look a lot like a run...i can always get back into it later, but i don't want any shenanigans to push things over the top UNVOTE NTNDEACON __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-07-2009, 02:20 PM	#463
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i believe that in with the people who have sent me roles so far there are doubtless wolves. however i don't think all the wolves have. therefore my thinking is: choose from those who have and risk taking out a known-quantity villager trying to hit one of the wolves who did, or b) choose from those who haven't and try to get a wolf and if it's a villager then they will likely reveal to me so that is what has been informing my decision-making __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-07-2009, 02:23 PM	#465
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	and a +1 to the person who utilized their power on me. i will not reveal them yet, unless they are under pressure of course. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-07-2009, 02:24 PM	#467
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Ok, based on DT's unvote of NTN, I'm going to make a decision: Vote Purdue Brad __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-07-2009, 02:30 PM	#470
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Ntn has showed up now and has been active in the conversation since arriving, so I'll wait to hear more from him. Now to consider where to look instead. Unvote ntndeacon __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

07-07-2009, 02:04 PM	#453
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	edit: take those three out.

07-07-2009, 02:08 PM	#455
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'm back and fixed, I think. I'm wary of the bandwagon on ntn myself. I will be voting for Purduebrad right now simply because he's the other main candidate (other than Jackal). I hope to be around to switch if something better comes along. VOTE PURDUEBRAD

07-07-2009, 02:10 PM	#457
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	yay Autumn, glad you got it fixed!

07-07-2009, 02:30 PM	#471
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	In terms of in game reasons, look at AlanT and Kwhit's votes for me. Especially KWhit's. Alan used the moldy chestnut that I am under the radar too often. Kwit just said it was an interesting horse race before he started to put the "race " out of reach. Therefore Unvote Jackal Vote KWhit

07-07-2009, 02:30 PM	#472
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I think I've read/skimmed most of the thread but I really need to catchup on things like work, clients, etc. I'll post my thoughts when I can get back.

07-07-2009, 02:32 PM	#475
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I will say at least Alan's vote had the apperance of a reason which Kwits did not. niether did the first vote of JAG this morning. But as a first vote I overlooked it for now

07-07-2009, 02:38 PM	#477
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I actually gave my reason in a post before the voting one so I didn't feel a need to rehash it. I'm glad to see you actively engaged now. At this moment I'm keeping my vote on you, but it's not set in stone.

07-07-2009, 02:39 PM	#478
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	I'll go with NTN here. Seems he is stepping up. UNVOTE NTN DEACON VOTE KWHIT

07-07-2009, 02:41 PM	#481
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	ok JAG, I must have missed it. I will go back and look for it.

07-07-2009, 02:48 PM	#484
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	FYI everyone - this is the worst possible day for this to happen, but i am swamped at work with trying to get some stuff out the door by the time i leave. So i have a bunch of people's PM's that i want to respond to, but I'm under the gun. Be patient with me. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-07-2009, 03:01 PM	#490
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Not too much to go on here. Right now I am leaning towards a Kwhit or PB vote.

07-07-2009, 03:03 PM	#492
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	UNVOTE NTNDEACON Let's see how the next couple hours develop. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-07-2009, 03:05 PM	#494
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	If I were to change my vote, I would rather go with BrianD than KWhit. Reasoning being that a. DT said he didn't have a read on him in post 401 and b. He was the first to put someone (The Jackal) at 3 votes breaking a 4-way tie of 2 votes.

07-07-2009, 03:10 PM	#496
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Im down for anyone...i just need a reason...my votes are never set in stone.

07-07-2009, 03:22 PM	#497
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	well with what is going on, i need to change, but i hate runaways at the beginning..too many places to hide. unvote the jackal vote purduebrad

07-07-2009, 03:22 PM	#498
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Frankly, I'm pretty confused about what we're trying to accomplish here. I'll vote for whoever - I've got nothing - but doesn't it generally behoove us to stick to the same guys and make the wolves actually pick a side, instead of squirming around? The movement gives a lot of cover to setting up a lynch they want, I think.

07-07-2009, 03:26 PM	#499
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Now PB has 6 votes, ntn has 5, and Jackal has 3. But we only have one candidate with any momentum - PB. This needs to not turn into a runaway.

07-07-2009, 03:27 PM	#500
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	you're right Tyrith - runaway's tell us nothing. close votes often tell us nothing if we have 2 villagers, but at least have the potential to tell us something. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

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