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HeavyReign · 01-21-2010, 06:07 PM

Strangest Final Four I've seen in a while:

West: #3 seed Purdue (34-6) 98 prestige
South: #13 seed Massachusets (24-14) 60 prestige
Midwest: #10 American (27-7) 28 prestige
East: #10 Penn State (32-7) 76 prestige

Purdue is an elite team and no shock to make the Final Four. They got a 3 seed mainly because their record was inflated by going 20-0 in games outside the top 100. They beat #14, #6, #2, and #9 to get here.

Massachusets was an NIT level team that won their conference tourney to make the big dance. They are #2 in the country in FG% allowed and #6 in blocks. With two 90+ shotblockers in the middle they play a 3-2 zone They beat #4, #12, #8, #3 to get here.

American won the Patriot League but was upset in the first round of their tourney. They had the fewest turnovers in the country and are #26 in 3P%. 3 point shooting was huge in getting here as they made 10/18, 10/21, 8/22, 13/25. They beat #7, #2, #3, #8 to get here. This region also featured the very rare #16 win as Detroit took down Cincinnati.

Penn State entered the tournament 26-7 with 22 wins outside the top 100 to earn a 10 seed. They feature 5 senior starters with 3 of them also having redshirted. They are just a solid all around team.

They beat #7, #2, #6, #1.

Groundhog · 01-21-2010, 06:17 PM

Lowest rated TV audience ever for an NCAA championship game?

HeavyReign · 01-21-2010, 06:32 PM

Final did end up being Purdue vs Penn State with Penn State winning. Taking a look at the teams did reveal something that needed to be addressed with the recruiting strategy for teams like in the upper middle area of prestige like Penn State.

Emmett13 · 02-02-2010, 03:37 AM

STILL PUMPED

whomario · 02-02-2010, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

I made a note to take a look at that and see if I can't make some tweaks. Player importing is tough just because of the wide range of competition levels and its very tough to come up with any reliable way of telling if a player is a good defender or not.

For the level of competition maybe some sort of adjustment tied to the RPI or strength of schedule ? Like, say, we import a player and there´s a column were we have to fill in either of those (or another suitable) number and then the import makes the adjustment based on that ?

Just thinking out loud with non-existing programming knowledge

definitely am pumped that you are working on a revamped version, have spend so many hours with the game it´s not even funny

HeavyReign · 02-02-2010, 04:34 AM

Still working...will start doing some beta work reasonably soon I hope. I'll put up a post when I'm ready for some volunteers.

HeavyReign · 02-10-2010, 07:05 PM

Wouldn't hurt to get a few volunteers at the moment to try things out.

Ben E Lou · 02-10-2010, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Wouldn't hurt to get a few volunteers at the moment to try things out.

{raises hand}

cartman · 02-10-2010, 07:09 PM

ayup

{waving hand frantically}

/been in the FOFC-FBCB league since inception
//also been on the BBCF beta team since it was a twinkle in Arlie's eye
///participated in numerous other alpha/beta situations

Easy Mac · 02-10-2010, 07:12 PM

{raises baby's hand}

HeavyReign · 02-10-2010, 07:13 PM

You guys are fast. I'll take these 3 for now. Details coming shortly.

MJ4H · 02-10-2010, 07:20 PM

oh wtf

(im in if you need a 4th)

HeavyReign · 02-10-2010, 07:21 PM

To start make an account over on the old fbb forums or tell me your old one. I'll get you access to the beta forum and a code for the game.

Fast Break Basketball Forum :: Index

cartman · 02-10-2010, 07:24 PM

same account as here

HeavyReign · 02-10-2010, 07:32 PM

Sent you a pm cartman. You should be all set.

cubboyroy1826 · 02-10-2010, 07:33 PM

Oh pick me pick me.

Ben E Lou · 02-10-2010, 07:36 PM

Account created. User name = Ben E Lou

cartman · 02-10-2010, 07:40 PM

thanks, Brian. I am getting the program setup now. Looking forward to helping out!

gstelmack · 02-10-2010, 08:06 PM

If any multiplayer league testing gets rolling, I'll be more than happy to join. I don't have free time to hammer on single player, but I'm more than willing to be a multiplayer guinea pig.

cubboyroy1826 · 02-10-2010, 08:15 PM

Oh pick me pick me.

Glengoyne · 02-10-2010, 08:21 PM

You the man HeavyReign. I'll be there after the BETA. I just don't have the time on my hands to offer it up, although actively supporting such a great franchise sounds very appealing.

Test well guys.

cubboyroy1826 · 02-10-2010, 08:29 PM

Oh pick me pick me.

Not sure why that showed up a 2nd time.

Ragone · 02-10-2010, 08:37 PM

i'm in for any beta testing needs you may have.. defintely one of my three game purchases this year(wow expansion being one other.. third tbd)

rjolley · 02-10-2010, 08:43 PM

If you need more, I'm game.

cubboyroy1826 · 02-10-2010, 08:59 PM

My account is gocubsgo.

Tasan · 02-10-2010, 09:18 PM

I'm in if you need more. I'm basically unemployed right now, so lots of free time.

Name over there on the fbb boards is tasan, like here.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding · 02-11-2010, 10:17 AM

I can't wait to see the feature list!

Young Drachma · 02-12-2010, 12:22 AM

Same here, I'd love to help out. My name is Dark Cloud over there, too.

k0ruptr · 02-12-2010, 12:25 AM

Oh man, I really really really want in, if you need more people ever...

k0ruptr · 02-12-2010, 12:26 AM

dola, my account was and still is k0ruptr on the forums, i registered a while a go.

Balldog · 02-13-2010, 04:12 PM

Sent you a PM over on your forum, I'd love to help anyway I can.

Emmett13 · 02-13-2010, 10:40 PM

Mine is BadluckinFBCB

Would be thrilled.

Radii · 02-14-2010, 01:50 AM

Its really great to see the progress here. I'm not the best beta tester in the world so I'm not gonna volunteer for too much of that, but I would be more than happy to help out in any way I can with any sort of multiplayer testing.

Emmett13 · 02-16-2010, 12:09 AM

I was thinking another possible transfer reason would be a player at small school wanting to try their luck at a big time program.

i.e. Seth Curry going to Duke from Liberty or Matt Pilgrim going to Kentucky/Oklahoma State from Hampton.

Groundhog · 02-16-2010, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmett13

I was thinking another possible transfer reason would be a player at small school wanting to try their luck at a big time program.

i.e. Seth Curry going to Duke from Liberty or Matt Pilgrim going to Kentucky/Oklahoma State from Hampton.

Good call. Doesn't happen all that often IRL, and would kinda suck if you grabbed a 300-overall-rated guy who blossomed into a star at your Nowhereville University only to have him leave for the SEC, but yeah, it would be pretty cool all the same.

Emmett13 · 02-17-2010, 10:36 PM

Are heights nothing more than cosmetic?

The reason I ask is that it always bugged me as far as an immersion factor when my stud 5'9" point guard goes pro, or a 6'6" PF goes to the NBA early.

There's a lot of college players that are great college players but don't have the size to play in the NBA (or at least go pro early).

But, it would be purely cosmetic for me and way down on the priority list.

HeavyReign · 02-18-2010, 12:51 AM

Height isn't cosmetic. I've actually had to redo the height distribution within the game as there were far too many players in the range of 6-8 to 6-10. I've also made recent changes to make undersized players less wanted by the pros.

Emmett13 · 02-18-2010, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Height isn't cosmetic. I've actually had to redo the height distribution within the game as there were far too many players in the range of 6-8 to 6-10. I've also made recent changes to make undersized players less wanted by the pros.

Are you some kind of text sim angel?!

HeavyReign · 02-18-2010, 01:12 AM

just fixing stuff that was broken the first time...

samifan24 · 02-18-2010, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

just fixing stuff that was broken the first time...

If only other text sim developers did this. Thanks, HeavyReign.

Emmett13 · 02-21-2010, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24

If only other text sim developers did this. Thanks, HeavyReign.

And that makes him a text sim angel!

sjshaw · 02-23-2010, 05:16 PM

I'd be happy to beta test, but the guy you really need to "recruit" is RonCo at FOCB.

Buccaneer · 02-27-2010, 01:16 PM

Just want to say thank you again. My son and I have been playing this the past 2 weeks (about 3 seasons per week), continuing our career that we started in 2004 (just got done with our 81st season). We took over low prestige Western Carolina with conference movements since we hadn't done that in a while. Fairly tough going with the recruiting paradox.

TCY Junkie · 02-27-2010, 01:24 PM

I don't have a son, so this won't be as good as the last post. FBCB is one of two games were I feel like I got way more than I paid for.

Emmett13 · 02-28-2010, 01:08 AM

Yeah, I've easily played FBCB more than any other game in my life, but ever since I heard about the new version I haven't been able to play it as much.

LloydLungs · 02-28-2010, 11:48 AM

I'm still playing, a LOT, this game from freakin 2003. Every time I see that this thread got bumped I go straight to it, wherever it is on the page. My real life team (UNO) is going to cease to exist soon, but I still can't wait for a new version.

markprior22 · 02-28-2010, 12:15 PM

I didn't purchase either the pro or college game previously. From all the feedback I've read, this will be a day 1 purchase for me.

whomario · 02-28-2010, 12:48 PM

The pro game was comfortably supassed by Greydog/Wolverine games Total Pro Basketball and Draft Day Sports Pro Basketball, no doubt about it. But FBCB i still like way better than Total College Basketball which just feels too generic.
I just love how every team in FBCB feels different and even without many interactive elements you get attached to the players because the skill sets are unique for everyone and you can win so many different ways.

In TCB you´d pick up either good or bad SGs, in FBCB you can get a slasher, a shooter, a defender, a rebounding guard or any combination of those things in a 1 star recruit just as much as in a 5 star recruit. Of course th 5 star guy on average is tons better, but if you are controlling a small school you could still get all those type of specialists and at a big school not every recruit is perfect in every aspect you need.

Even with a preseason No1 you don´t have 12 well rounded players but really have to think about your lineup and lineup changes actually make a difference as you can play so many different ways.

Sweed · 02-28-2010, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whomario

The pro game was comfortably supassed by Greydog/Wolverine games Total Pro Basketball and Draft Day Sports Pro Basketball, no doubt about it. But FBCB i still like way better than Total College Basketball which just feels too generic.
I just love how every team in FBCB feels different and even without many interactive elements you get attached to the players because the skill sets are unique for everyone and you can win so many different ways.

In TCB you´d pick up either good or bad SGs, in FBCB you can get a slasher, a shooter, a defender, a rebounding guard or any combination of those things in a 1 star recruit just as much as in a 5 star recruit. Of course th 5 star guy on average is tons better, but if you are controlling a small school you could still get all those type of specialists and at a big school not every recruit is perfect in every aspect you need.

Even with a preseason No1 you don´t have 12 well rounded players but really have to think about your lineup and lineup changes actually make a difference as you can play so many different ways.

Never played TCB but your analysis of FBCB is spot on. I love that the system is so simple yet works. Players skill sets matter. I've had guys that could create their own shot and also guys that needed a good offense to create space for them to get off their shots. Both types of players can be studs in FBCB. It's a great game that I really need to make time to play again.

Groundhog · 02-28-2010, 05:03 PM

You know you're a text-sim geek when: You create NBA 2K10 draft files from your FBCB career. There is no hope for me. Seriously, created 2 draft files, each one took like 3-4 hours.

01-21-2010, 06:07 PM	#101
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	Strangest Final Four I've seen in a while: West: #3 seed Purdue (34-6) 98 prestige South: #13 seed Massachusets (24-14) 60 prestige Midwest: #10 American (27-7) 28 prestige East: #10 Penn State (32-7) 76 prestige Purdue is an elite team and no shock to make the Final Four. They got a 3 seed mainly because their record was inflated by going 20-0 in games outside the top 100. They beat #14, #6, #2, and #9 to get here. Massachusets was an NIT level team that won their conference tourney to make the big dance. They are #2 in the country in FG% allowed and #6 in blocks. With two 90+ shotblockers in the middle they play a 3-2 zone They beat #4, #12, #8, #3 to get here. American won the Patriot League but was upset in the first round of their tourney. They had the fewest turnovers in the country and are #26 in 3P%. 3 point shooting was huge in getting here as they made 10/18, 10/21, 8/22, 13/25. They beat #7, #2, #3, #8 to get here. This region also featured the very rare #16 win as Detroit took down Cincinnati. Penn State entered the tournament 26-7 with 22 wins outside the top 100 to earn a 10 seed. They feature 5 senior starters with 3 of them also having redshirted. They are just a solid all around team. They beat #7, #2, #6, #1. __________________ Brian Nichols [email protected] Fast Break Basketball / Fast Break Basketball: SE / Season Ticket Basketball 2003 / Fast Break College Basketball / Fast Break College Basketball 2010 / Fast Break Pro Basketball 3 http://www.fbbgames.com/forum/

01-21-2010, 06:17 PM	#102
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Lowest rated TV audience ever for an NCAA championship game? __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

02-10-2010, 07:09 PM	#109
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	ayup {waving hand frantically} /been in the FOFC-FBCB league since inception //also been on the BBCF beta team since it was a twinkle in Arlie's eye ///participated in numerous other alpha/beta situations __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 02-10-2010 at 07:14 PM.

02-10-2010, 07:20 PM	#112
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	oh wtf (im in if you need a 4th) __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona Last edited by MJ4H : 02-10-2010 at 07:20 PM.

02-10-2010, 07:21 PM	#113
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	To start make an account over on the old fbb forums or tell me your old one. I'll get you access to the beta forum and a code for the game. Fast Break Basketball Forum :: Index Last edited by HeavyReign : 02-10-2010 at 07:22 PM.

01-21-2010, 06:32 PM	#103
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	Final did end up being Purdue vs Penn State with Penn State winning. Taking a look at the teams did reveal something that needed to be addressed with the recruiting strategy for teams like in the upper middle area of prestige like Penn State.

02-02-2010, 03:37 AM	#104
Emmett13 Mascot Join Date: Aug 2003	STILL PUMPED

02-02-2010, 04:34 AM	#106
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	Still working...will start doing some beta work reasonably soon I hope. I'll put up a post when I'm ready for some volunteers.

02-10-2010, 07:05 PM	#107
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	Wouldn't hurt to get a few volunteers at the moment to try things out.

02-10-2010, 07:12 PM	#110
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	{raises baby's hand}

02-10-2010, 07:13 PM	#111
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	You guys are fast. I'll take these 3 for now. Details coming shortly.

02-10-2010, 07:24 PM	#114
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	same account as here __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

02-10-2010, 07:32 PM	#115
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	Sent you a pm cartman. You should be all set.

02-10-2010, 07:33 PM	#116
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Oh pick me pick me.

02-10-2010, 07:36 PM	#117
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Account created. User name = Ben E Lou __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

02-10-2010, 07:40 PM	#118
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	thanks, Brian. I am getting the program setup now. Looking forward to helping out! __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

02-10-2010, 08:06 PM	#119
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	If any multiplayer league testing gets rolling, I'll be more than happy to join. I don't have free time to hammer on single player, but I'm more than willing to be a multiplayer guinea pig. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

02-10-2010, 08:15 PM	#120
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Oh pick me pick me.

02-10-2010, 08:21 PM	#121
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	You the man HeavyReign. I'll be there after the BETA. I just don't have the time on my hands to offer it up, although actively supporting such a great franchise sounds very appealing. Test well guys.

02-10-2010, 08:29 PM	#122
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Oh pick me pick me. Not sure why that showed up a 2nd time. Last edited by cubboyroy1826 : 02-10-2010 at 08:29 PM.

02-10-2010, 08:37 PM	#123
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	i'm in for any beta testing needs you may have.. defintely one of my three game purchases this year(wow expansion being one other.. third tbd)

02-10-2010, 08:43 PM	#124
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	If you need more, I'm game.

02-10-2010, 08:59 PM	#125
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	My account is gocubsgo.

02-10-2010, 09:18 PM	#126
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	I'm in if you need more. I'm basically unemployed right now, so lots of free time. Name over there on the fbb boards is tasan, like here. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty Last edited by Tasan : 02-10-2010 at 09:19 PM.

02-11-2010, 10:17 AM	#127
LastWhiteSoxFanStanding College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003	I can't wait to see the feature list!

02-12-2010, 12:22 AM	#128
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Same here, I'd love to help out. My name is Dark Cloud over there, too.

02-12-2010, 12:25 AM	#129
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Oh man, I really really really want in, if you need more people ever... __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks Last edited by k0ruptr : 02-12-2010 at 12:29 AM.

02-12-2010, 12:26 AM	#130
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	dola, my account was and still is k0ruptr on the forums, i registered a while a go. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

02-13-2010, 04:12 PM	#131
Balldog Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Macomb, MI	Sent you a PM over on your forum, I'd love to help anyway I can.

02-13-2010, 10:40 PM	#132
Emmett13 Mascot Join Date: Aug 2003	Mine is BadluckinFBCB Would be thrilled.

02-14-2010, 01:50 AM	#133
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Its really great to see the progress here. I'm not the best beta tester in the world so I'm not gonna volunteer for too much of that, but I would be more than happy to help out in any way I can with any sort of multiplayer testing.

02-16-2010, 12:09 AM	#134
Emmett13 Mascot Join Date: Aug 2003	I was thinking another possible transfer reason would be a player at small school wanting to try their luck at a big time program. i.e. Seth Curry going to Duke from Liberty or Matt Pilgrim going to Kentucky/Oklahoma State from Hampton.

02-17-2010, 10:36 PM	#136
Emmett13 Mascot Join Date: Aug 2003	Are heights nothing more than cosmetic? The reason I ask is that it always bugged me as far as an immersion factor when my stud 5'9" point guard goes pro, or a 6'6" PF goes to the NBA early. There's a lot of college players that are great college players but don't have the size to play in the NBA (or at least go pro early). But, it would be purely cosmetic for me and way down on the priority list.

02-18-2010, 12:51 AM	#137
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	Height isn't cosmetic. I've actually had to redo the height distribution within the game as there were far too many players in the range of 6-8 to 6-10. I've also made recent changes to make undersized players less wanted by the pros.

02-18-2010, 01:12 AM	#139
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	just fixing stuff that was broken the first time...