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Old 02-22-2007, 03:26 PM   #251
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My sources tell me Lathum is going with 2Pac here.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:26 PM   #252
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that "two songs sung by women" rule
Whuzzat?
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:26 PM   #253
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A tough choice here, as there are songs I'd prefer to have earlier, but that "two songs sung by women" rule is going to bite some folks in the tail. I'm going to avoid the coming crunch by taking one one of the most popularly beloved and critically important songs by a woman artist. The song has it all -- social consciousness, the civil rights era backdrop, an African-American woman demanding her due...and it rocks, too. Every female vocalist in the modern era walks the trail this song blazed. I also get bonus points for having seen her perform it. With that:

Classic - 1.3 - Like a Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan
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Roffle - I almost wrote that as a prediction for you. Interesting pick.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:27 PM   #254
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It's interesting that two of the trendsetters have been cover songs.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:27 PM   #255
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Very worthy choice for first female.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:28 PM   #256
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I like the Aretha pick.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:29 PM   #257
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Epic - BaBa O'reilly ( also known as teenage wasteland)- The Who 2.9
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Trendsetter - Smells Like Teen Spirit- Nirvana- 1.2
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This song just rocks. Period. You can be anywhere this song is playing and not see someone playing air guitar. One of the most recognizable guitar riffs ever.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:29 PM   #258
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From the rules: At least two of your songs must be sung by a female
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:31 PM   #259
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:33 PM   #260
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It's interesting that two of the trendsetters have been cover songs.

Yeah, I just don't see hwo that can work.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:34 PM   #261
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There are two artists that I am just shocked that they haven't been picked yet.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:35 PM   #262
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When I first heard this song I was just shocked. I had never heard something so completely in-your-face and raw (yes, I was raised on white classic rock). It opened my eyes to the mistrust and anger felt by many memebers of the black community toward the police (clueless was I). My memory is fuzzy, but it seems like I heard this around the time of the LA Riots. In any event, I was in my college years for both. My pick is the anti-establishment anthem Fuck Tha Police by N.W.A.

Classic - Stairway to Heaven, Led Zeppelin 1-1
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:37 PM   #263
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Over blank by blank? uh, wow.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:38 PM   #264
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:38 PM   #265
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Over Cop Killer by Ice T? uh, wow.

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Old 02-22-2007, 03:38 PM   #266
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sigh, I was gonna try and get cop killer down the road
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:39 PM   #267
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I just think if you're gonna go in that direction, go all the way.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:39 PM   #268
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Epic - BaBa O'reilly ( also known as teenage wasteland)- The Who 2.9

This song just rocks. Period. You can be anywhere this song is playing and not see someone playing air guitar. One of the most recognizable guitar riffs ever.

Interesting. I had this on my "Where the hell can I fit this in?" list. And I had Pinball Wizard as my top Epic choice.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:40 PM   #269
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Interesting. I had this on my "Where the hell can I fit this in?" list. And I had Pinball Wizard as my top Epic choice.

I think baba is more recognizable then pinball wizard. ( once people understand what song you are talking about)
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:40 PM   #270
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The draft so far...

1.1 Classic -Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin
1.2 Trendsetter - Smells Like Teen Spirit- Nirvana
1.3 Classic - Like a Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan
1.4 Epic - Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
1.5 Classic - Yesterday - The Beatles
1.6 Trendsetter - Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
1.7 Arena - Welcome to the Jungle - Guns N' Roses
1.8 Crossover - Walk This Way - Run-D.M.C. feat. Aerosmith
1.9 Anti-Establishment - Fight the Power - Public Enemy
1.10 Classic - Hotel California - Eagles

2.1 - Epic - American Pie - Don Maclean
2.2 - Epic(?) - Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones
2.3 - Trendsetter - "Rapper's Delight" - The Sugarhill Gang
2.4 - Trendsetter - Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley
2.5 - Epic - Another Brick in the Wall — Pink Floyd
2.6 - Trendsetter - Rock Around The Clock- Bill Haley and The Comets
2.7 - Anti-Establishment - Anarchy in the UK - The Sex Pistols
2.8 - Trendsetter - Respect - Aretha Franklin
2.9 - Epic - BaBa O'Reilly (Teenage Wasteland) - The Who
2.10 - Anti-Establishment - Fuck Tha Police - N.W.A.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:40 PM   #271
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We ought to compare "Where the hell can I fit this in?" lists, LS.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:41 PM   #272
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Someone remind St. Cronin not to bing up potential future picks. oops I guess I just did
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:41 PM   #273
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Round two summary:

2.1 - American Pie - Don McLean - Epic
2.2 - Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones - Epic(?)
2.3 - "Rapper's Delight" - The Sugarhill Gang - Trendsetter
2.4 - Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley - Trendsetter
2.5 - Another Brick in the Wall — Pink Floyd - Epic
2.6 - Rock Around The Clock- Bill Haley and The Comets - Trendsetter
2.7 - Anarchy in the UK - The Sex Pistols - Anti-Establishment
2.8 - Trendsetter - Respect - Aretha Franklin
2.9 - BaBa O'Reilly (Teenage Wasteland) - The Who - 2.9 Epic
2.10 - Fuck Tha Police - N.W.A. - Anti-Establishment

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We ought to compare "Where the hell can I fit this in?" lists, LS.

When it's all said and done I'd love to share all of my thoughts.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:42 PM   #274
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:42 PM   #275
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There are two artists that I am just shocked that they haven't been picked yet.

I was thinking the same thing.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:42 PM   #276
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I just think if you're gonna go in that direction, go all the way.

one was a real song, actual anger. the other was an exploitative attempt to ride the coattails of the other.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:42 PM   #277
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I just think if you're gonna go in that direction, go all the way.
Fuck Tha Police predated the other by two years. The lyrics are just as incendiary.

By the time -------- came out the alternative rock and gangsta rap were in full swing and the environment was more receptive than it had been when Fuck Tha Police came out.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:44 PM   #278
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Fuck Tha Police predated the other by two years. The lyrics are just as incendiary.

By the time -------- came out the alternative rock and gangsta rap were in full swing and the environment was more receptive than it had been when Fuck Tha Police came out.

Yes but which one was actually CENSORED? Consider the category.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:44 PM   #279
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Get on with your next pick, Subbs.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:45 PM   #280
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:45 PM   #281
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It's interesting that two of the trendsetters have been cover songs.
Actually three if you count Rock Around the Clock (some debate over that, but they weren't the first to record it).

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Yeah, I just don't see hwo that can work.
If a cover can't be a trendsetter, what about something like Rapper's Delight that uses extensive sampling? I don't see how something has to be unique or even original to start a trend.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:46 PM   #282
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Yes but which one was actually CENSORED? Consider the category.
Seriously - weren't you like 2 years old then?

Fuck Tha Police got NO airplay on the radio or MTV. It was completely underground. It had the word Fuck in the title and if you google it is still listed as F--- Tha Police in many instances.

The other song was covered by Kurt Loder every day for like three months.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:48 PM   #283
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Trends don't check with artists to find out if they wrote the song themselves.

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Old 02-22-2007, 03:48 PM   #284
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Seriously - weren't you like 2 years old then?

Fuck Tha Police got NO airplay on the radio or MTV. It was completely underground. It had the word Fuck in the title and if you google it is still listed as F--- Tha Police in many instances.

The other song was covered by Kurt Loder every day for like three months.

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Old 02-22-2007, 03:50 PM   #285
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grrrrrr now I want to fight you

he's got a point though, you're just wrong on this one. trust us.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:52 PM   #286
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There is no freaking way I am going to pass up the chance to have both Freebird and Stairway on my team. The pairing is so freaking sublime that I might have to go build a bong in shop real quick just so I can get high off of this recycled office paper.

So yes, I am picking Freebird by Lynyrd Skynyrd as my epic song. Because it is so effing epic. I have a better arena song for the down the line. Plus the extended jam is so great.

Note: They also have a killer Behind the Music.

Classic - Stairway to Heaven, Led Zeppelin (1-1)
Epic - Freebird, Lynyrd Skynyrd (3-1)
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he's got a point though, you're just wrong on this one. trust us.

The Jerky Boys were more underground than NWA. Every kid in my high school had that tape.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:53 PM   #288
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Well, I'm definitely going to vote you number one for Most Pandering, Subby.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:53 PM   #289
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Can't believe Freebird fell out of the 1st round.
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Classic - Stairway to Heaven, Led Zeppelin (1-1)
Epic - Freebird, Lynyrd Skynyrd (3-1)
Anti-Establishment - Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A. (2-10)
Jesus, how much pot do you smoke?
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:54 PM   #292
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And there it goes.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:57 PM   #294
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If a cover can't be a trendsetter, what about something like Rapper's Delight that uses extensive sampling? I don't see how something has to be unique or even original to start a trend.

Fair point.. the more I think about it, the less the covers as trendsetters bothers me... it seems unnatural, but I can't argue agaisnt any of those being trendsetters.
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Well, I'm definitely going to vote you number one for Most Pandering, Subby.
Cool...do I get a pretty tiara with that? If so...awesome!
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:57 PM   #296
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Classic -Foxy Lady- Jimi Hendrix- 3.2
Epic - BaBa O'reilly ( also known as teenage wasteland)- The Who 2.9
Arena -
Trendsetter - Smells Like Teen Spirit- Nirvana- 1.2
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
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Cover -
Anti-Establishment -

Most of Classic song's selected so far can be put in a similar catergory, I wanted to find something that rocks a little more but has withstood th test of time. I waffled back and forth between a few different picks but I didn't think I would get another shot at Jimi.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:58 PM   #297
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Jesus, how much pot do you smoke?
Wait til you see my arena song!
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:58 PM   #298
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Shit - I was really hoping Hendrix lasted till my pick. I would have gone with All Along the Watchtower as the cover, IMO, or Hey Joe.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:59 PM   #299
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Shit - I was really hoping Hendrix lasted till my pick. I would have gone with All Along the Watchtower as the cover, IMO, or Hey Joe.

While those are great songs I am trying to keep in mind what will appeal to the masses
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We'll continue the draft over evenings/weekends, although of course we'll expect longer delays between picks.

Please PM me a few picks if you're not going to be checking in outside of work hours.
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