Interactive SOM Baseball League - looking for managers - Page 3

Breeze · 05-19-2013, 09:40 PM

Thanks guys, appreciate you agreeing to let the boys play. Their team will be the Hawkinsville Bears...

JonInMiddleGA · 05-19-2013, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Breeze

I figured we would use a standard rotation...given that you guys can't see the * pitchers when you are drafting...

Fair enough. I didn't know who knew what/who owned what, so I'll eliminate that factor from my draft strategy.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-19-2013, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Breeze

Jon, The site looks exactly right. I didn't check every player and every team, but I did go over 5 teams default lineups and they matched perfectly. I think that is a great resource for the list of names.

Thanks here too.

What caused me to wonder about this were several players, pitchers specifically, that are actually quite high (top 100 overall) if you look at something like real-life WAR ... but they managed that in maybe 8-10 games, leaving them uncarded in the basic set.

Breeze · 05-19-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Thanks here too.

What caused me to wonder about this were several players, pitchers specifically, that are actually quite high (top 100 overall) if you look at something like real-life WAR ... but they managed that in maybe 8-10 games, leaving them uncarded in the basic set.

Since I'm not playing I haven't done any special resource. If you want to give me a couple of names off line I can tell you if they are carded...

NOLEBODY · 05-20-2013, 10:14 PM

knocksville generals are in and awaiting the draft

Breeze · 05-20-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NOLEBODY

knocksville generals are in and awaiting the draft

Cool, glad to see you remembered how to get here...

Breeze · 05-20-2013, 10:42 PM

ok...I'm ready to set the draft order and I've decided to allow you to pick your own poison...

Here is how it is going to work. Pick a letter between A and L (no letter picked more than 1 time)...each letter corresponds to a draft location...

Good Luck:

A - Seattle - (10th Pick)
B - Knoxville (9th Pick)
C - Salt Lake - (6th Pick)
D -
E - Cleveland (2nd Pick)
F -
G - Stamford (7th Pick)
H - Philadelphia (11th Pick)
I -
J - Montpelier (8th Pick)
K -
L - Atlanta (4th Pick)

BYU 14 · 05-20-2013, 10:44 PM

Salt Lake will take C

Breeze · 05-20-2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

Salt Lake will take C

And Salt Lake will pick 6th...

JonInMiddleGA · 05-20-2013, 11:01 PM

Atlanta Crackers take L (for my last name)

DavidCorperial · 05-20-2013, 11:05 PM

Stamford takes G for my last name

path12 · 05-20-2013, 11:43 PM

Seattle Pilots take A.

britrock88 · 05-21-2013, 12:32 AM

Spiders take E.

Suicane75 · 05-21-2013, 01:17 AM

Give me H, for How much I Hate this Heat

JAG · 05-21-2013, 09:05 AM

J it is.

Breeze · 05-21-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Atlanta Crackers take L (for my last name)

Atlanta will pick 4th...

britrock88 · 05-21-2013, 10:25 AM

Dragging out this lottery for maximum drama, eh?

JonInMiddleGA · 05-21-2013, 10:27 AM

Hey, is the draft snake or straight?

Breeze · 05-21-2013, 11:08 AM

Draft Order

1.
2. Cleveland
3.
4. Atlanta
5.
6. Salt Lake
7. Stamford
8. Montpelier
9. Knoxville
10. Seattle
11. Philadelphia
12.

Breeze · 05-21-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidCorperial

Stamford takes G for my last name

Stamford will pick 7th...

Breeze · 05-21-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by britrock88

Dragging out this lottery for maximum drama, eh?

Sure...why not...

Breeze · 05-21-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by path12

Seattle Pilots take A.

Seattle will pick 10th

Breeze · 05-21-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Give me H, for How much I Hate this Heat

Philadelphia picks 11th

Suicane...I looked back but didn't find your team name, but I believe this is right...

Breeze · 05-21-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

J it is.

Montpelier Picks 8th

Breeze · 05-21-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Hey, is the draft snake or straight?

We'll snake it this time...then based on the outcome from this season we'll set the draft order based on results and it will be straight...

Breeze · 05-21-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by britrock88

Spiders take E.

Cleveland picks 2nd

sorry missed this one initially going through the posts...

Breeze · 05-21-2013, 11:47 AM

basically we have 2 more picks...Knoxville and Birmingham

Then I'll let my boys pick and the last two bots will fill in the gaps...

Breeze · 05-21-2013, 11:59 AM

Knoxville picks B which gives them the 9th pick

Breeze · 05-22-2013, 08:56 AM

Quick Update

Ok, wanted to update you guys...I know I had indicated we'd start the draft this week, but 1 of the players is out of pocket until next week, and I have to admit that the kids are still finishing up school and so they haven't studied for the draft. So right now I'm thinking we'll start drafting next week...

Anybody have any problems with that or suggestions. I'm open...

JonInMiddleGA · 05-22-2013, 09:09 AM

Next week isn't really a problem for me.

I do have a question though, about 10 humans + 2 bots vs just 10 humans.

With only 20 teams at 25ish players each (assuming the base set rather than the "extras" set included), that's 500 players, split roughly as 300 batters + 200 pitchers.

If we include the bots & extend the league to 12, with 35 man rosters, it seems to me like we're going to end up drafting an awfully high percentage of carded players (420 of 500). With the last two human additions to the league, are we sure we want/need the 2 bots? If one of those bots is intended for ntndeacon & the other is just to balance the schedule that's cool & all, or if you just like the way a 12 team schedule & presumably two divisions works out, that's cool too. Otherwise though ... I dunno, just seems like stretching unnecessarily maybe (since the target number of teams back on page 2 of the thread seemed to be 10).

I'm not lobbying hard against it or anything, just wondering what anybody else thought.

JAG · 05-22-2013, 09:42 AM

Hadn't thought about that Jon, but I agree that's a good point. I think I would be happier with a 10 vs. 12 player league, especially if we have the humans for it.

Also, starting next week is great for me.

BYU 14 · 05-22-2013, 10:00 AM

Next week is busy as we have a youth football camp in the evenings, but I can squeeze it on the days I am working from home

Breeze · 05-22-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Next week isn't really a problem for me.

I do have a question though, about 10 humans + 2 bots vs just 10 humans.

With only 20 teams at 25ish players each (assuming the base set rather than the "extras" set included), that's 500 players, split roughly as 300 batters + 200 pitchers.

If we include the bots & extend the league to 12, with 35 man rosters, it seems to me like we're going to end up drafting an awfully high percentage of carded players (420 of 500). With the last two human additions to the league, are we sure we want/need the 2 bots? If one of those bots is intended for ntndeacon & the other is just to balance the schedule that's cool & all, or if you just like the way a 12 team schedule & presumably two divisions works out, that's cool too. Otherwise though ... I dunno, just seems like stretching unnecessarily maybe (since the target number of teams back on page 2 of the thread seemed to be 10).

I'm not lobbying hard against it or anything, just wondering what anybody else thought.

So to follow up, and set some more league specifics then...if we play with 10...

1. do we need to reset the draft order or just finish out with my kids and ntdeacon and whatever was leftover gets dropped from the order
2. I'd suggest two 5 team divisions with an unbalanced schedule
3. I'd also suggest the winner of each division meets in a World Series, no playoffs (not a big enough league)

Also if we play with 12, we could drop the rounds to 30 or 32 so we end up with the same number of players drafted...

I'm open to suggestions, and not married to any specific arrangement.

britrock88 · 05-22-2013, 10:04 AM

Studying for the draft? Oh boy...

JonInMiddleGA · 05-22-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Breeze

Also if we play with 12, we could drop the rounds to 30 or 32 so we end up with the same number of players drafted...

fwiw, I've got a definite preference for 35 players to each human team as previously expected. To the point that I now kinda regret even saying anything if that's a prospective solution (yeah, I know you were just throwing it out there but still, it opens the door again). "Why reduce human involvement in order to add bot teams?" kind of sums up my thinking here.

Getting to 10 human teams wasn't exactly easy best I could tell, and there hasn't been a shortage of opportunity for interested parties to climb on board, I don't really see having bots for the first season (to hold a place for potential latecomers) being necessary.

Breeze · 05-22-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

fwiw, I've got a definite preference for 35 players to each human team as previously expected. To the point that I now kinda regret even saying anything if that's a prospective solution (yeah, I know you were just throwing it out there but still, it opens the door again). "Why reduce human involvement in order to add bot teams?" kind of sums up my thinking here.

Getting to 10 human teams wasn't exactly easy best I could tell, and there hasn't been a shortage of opportunity for interested parties to climb on board, I don't really see having bots for the first season (to hold a place for potential latecomers) being necessary.

Fair enough...10 it is...

path12 · 05-22-2013, 11:03 AM

Good with next week and good with 10 teams.

On a semi-related note, my 1964 game finally arrived last night. With the rules for the football game enclosed. Sigh.

Breeze · 05-22-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by path12

Good with next week and good with 10 teams.

On a semi-related note, my 1964 game finally arrived last night. With the rules for the football game enclosed. Sigh.

classic, you'll probably have a problem with the SOM customer service when you call them too. They are notoriously bad. In fact, the customer service is why I stopped playing for years.

path12 · 05-22-2013, 01:39 PM

They're telling me they will mail it out promptly.

I'd think a PDF file would be fine but maybe they think it has to go out like it would have in 1964.

Suicane75 · 05-22-2013, 05:09 PM

Great, a 10 team league and I get to pick 11th.

I'm good with 10 and next week too, though I am itching like a herpe to start this mother.

britrock88 · 05-25-2013, 04:16 PM

I'm good from Wednesday on.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-28-2013, 09:14 PM

Bumpity?

Breeze · 05-29-2013, 08:38 AM

Draft Order

1. Hawkinsville
2. Cleveland
3. Birmingham
4. Atlanta
5. Salt Lake
6. Stamford
7. Montpelier
8. Knoxville
9. Seattle
10. Philadelphia

Breeze · 05-29-2013, 08:39 AM

The final draft order is above...the boys will be making their pick shortly...so Cleveland needs to get ready...(If you think you are going to be unavailable and would like to PM me a list to use to make your choice, that is fine...)

Breeze · 05-29-2013, 09:05 AM

DRAFT STARTS HERE

Hawkinsville Bears select C - Johnny Bench

Breeze · 05-29-2013, 09:06 AM

Cleveland is on the clock

britrock88 · 05-29-2013, 12:26 PM

Hmm... I feel silly without the information in front of me. Does SOM have any more information than I could find on baseball-reference?

BYU 14 · 05-29-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by britrock88

Hmm... I feel silly without the information in front of me. Does SOM have any more information than I could find on baseball-reference?

Not really, but the link Jon posted earlier does list each teams most commonly used lineups.

britrock88 · 05-29-2013, 12:32 PM

Have to take LF Carl Yastrzemski, right?

britrock88 · 05-29-2013, 12:35 PM

Hey, Breeze, would you care to edit the draft order post to include the user names of FOFC members? That way, drafting teams could ping the next guy up, which would be a bit quicker. (I sent a PM to ntndeacon already.)

05-20-2013, 10:14 PM	#105
NOLEBODY n00b Join Date: Sep 2005	new team knocksville generals are in and awaiting the draft

05-20-2013, 10:42 PM	#107
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	ok...I'm ready to set the draft order and I've decided to allow you to pick your own poison... Here is how it is going to work. Pick a letter between A and L (no letter picked more than 1 time)...each letter corresponds to a draft location... Good Luck: A - Seattle - (10th Pick) B - Knoxville (9th Pick) C - Salt Lake - (6th Pick) D - E - Cleveland (2nd Pick) F - G - Stamford (7th Pick) H - Philadelphia (11th Pick) I - J - Montpelier (8th Pick) K - L - Atlanta (4th Pick) Last edited by Breeze : 05-21-2013 at 11:59 AM.

05-20-2013, 11:01 PM	#110
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Atlanta Crackers take L (for my last name) __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 05-20-2013 at 11:13 PM. Reason: edited to add team name

05-20-2013, 11:43 PM	#112
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Seattle Pilots take A. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-21-2013, 10:27 AM	#118
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Hey, is the draft snake or straight? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-19-2013, 09:40 PM	#101
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Thanks guys, appreciate you agreeing to let the boys play. Their team will be the Hawkinsville Bears...

05-20-2013, 10:44 PM	#108
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Salt Lake will take C

05-20-2013, 11:05 PM	#111
DavidCorperial High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Stamford, CT	Stamford takes G for my last name

05-21-2013, 12:32 AM	#113
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	Spiders take E.

05-21-2013, 01:17 AM	#114
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Give me H, for How much I Hate this Heat

05-21-2013, 10:25 AM	#117
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	Dragging out this lottery for maximum drama, eh?

05-21-2013, 11:08 AM	#119
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Draft Order 1. 2. Cleveland 3. 4. Atlanta 5. 6. Salt Lake 7. Stamford 8. Montpelier 9. Knoxville 10. Seattle 11. Philadelphia 12. Last edited by Breeze : 05-21-2013 at 11:59 AM.

05-21-2013, 11:47 AM	#127
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	basically we have 2 more picks...Knoxville and Birmingham Then I'll let my boys pick and the last two bots will fill in the gaps...

05-21-2013, 11:59 AM	#128
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Knoxville picks B which gives them the 9th pick

05-22-2013, 08:56 AM	#129
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Quick Update Ok, wanted to update you guys...I know I had indicated we'd start the draft this week, but 1 of the players is out of pocket until next week, and I have to admit that the kids are still finishing up school and so they haven't studied for the draft. So right now I'm thinking we'll start drafting next week... Anybody have any problems with that or suggestions. I'm open...

05-22-2013, 09:09 AM	#130
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Next week isn't really a problem for me. I do have a question though, about 10 humans + 2 bots vs just 10 humans. With only 20 teams at 25ish players each (assuming the base set rather than the "extras" set included), that's 500 players, split roughly as 300 batters + 200 pitchers. If we include the bots & extend the league to 12, with 35 man rosters, it seems to me like we're going to end up drafting an awfully high percentage of carded players (420 of 500). With the last two human additions to the league, are we sure we want/need the 2 bots? If one of those bots is intended for ntndeacon & the other is just to balance the schedule that's cool & all, or if you just like the way a 12 team schedule & presumably two divisions works out, that's cool too. Otherwise though ... I dunno, just seems like stretching unnecessarily maybe (since the target number of teams back on page 2 of the thread seemed to be 10). I'm not lobbying hard against it or anything, just wondering what anybody else thought. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-22-2013, 09:42 AM	#131
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Hadn't thought about that Jon, but I agree that's a good point. I think I would be happier with a 10 vs. 12 player league, especially if we have the humans for it. Also, starting next week is great for me.

05-22-2013, 10:00 AM	#132
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Next week is busy as we have a youth football camp in the evenings, but I can squeeze it on the days I am working from home

05-22-2013, 10:04 AM	#134
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	Studying for the draft? Oh boy...

05-22-2013, 11:03 AM	#137
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Good with next week and good with 10 teams. On a semi-related note, my 1964 game finally arrived last night. With the rules for the football game enclosed. Sigh. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 01:39 PM	#139
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	They're telling me they will mail it out promptly. I'd think a PDF file would be fine but maybe they think it has to go out like it would have in 1964. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

05-22-2013, 05:09 PM	#140
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Great, a 10 team league and I get to pick 11th. I'm good with 10 and next week too, though I am itching like a herpe to start this mother.

05-25-2013, 04:16 PM	#141
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	I'm good from Wednesday on.

05-28-2013, 09:14 PM	#142
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Bumpity? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-29-2013, 08:38 AM	#143
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Draft Order 1. Hawkinsville 2. Cleveland 3. Birmingham 4. Atlanta 5. Salt Lake 6. Stamford 7. Montpelier 8. Knoxville 9. Seattle 10. Philadelphia

05-29-2013, 08:39 AM	#144
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	The final draft order is above...the boys will be making their pick shortly...so Cleveland needs to get ready...(If you think you are going to be unavailable and would like to PM me a list to use to make your choice, that is fine...)

05-29-2013, 09:05 AM	#145
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	DRAFT STARTS HERE Hawkinsville Bears select C - Johnny Bench

05-29-2013, 09:06 AM	#146
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Cleveland is on the clock

05-29-2013, 12:26 PM	#147
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	Hmm... I feel silly without the information in front of me. Does SOM have any more information than I could find on baseball-reference?

05-29-2013, 12:32 PM	#149
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	Have to take LF Carl Yastrzemski, right?

05-29-2013, 12:35 PM	#150
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	Hey, Breeze, would you care to edit the draft order post to include the user names of FOFC members? That way, drafting teams could ping the next guy up, which would be a bit quicker. (I sent a PM to ntndeacon already.)

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