Front Office Football Central  

Go Back   Front Office Football Central > Main Forums > Off Topic
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read Statistics

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-30-2018, 09:19 PM   #301
miami_fan
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
Kevin Love better have copies of the X-rays ready for the rest of the team.



__________________
I introduce to you the 2018-2019 NBA champion, Jeremy Lin!
miami_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2018, 09:41 PM   #302
nol
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
I think the East all-stars are decimated enough that Blake Griffin is next in line for them.
nol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2018, 10:24 PM   #303
Atocep
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Tacoma
Harden with a 60 point triple double tonight.
Atocep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2018, 01:26 AM   #304
Shkspr
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Amarillo, TX
In other news, Isaiah Canaan apparently received word that LeBron James had nominated him to the All-Star team before tonight's game against the Mavs. Destiny ensued.
Shkspr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2018, 01:29 PM   #305
nol
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Bulls send Mirotic and a 2nd to Pelicans for Omer Asik, Tony Allen and a 1st. Bulls are probably the worst team in the league now between this and Zach LaVine coming back from injury.

Omer Asik cost the Pelicans a first-round pick to acquire, a first-round pick to dump, a big contract while he was there and did nothing for them as the team has won zero playoff games since 2011 - the price of trying to skip steps when building around Davis. Mirotic should be good enough to keep them in the playoffs and will help the depth if Cousins comes back; the Pelicans could do with centers what the Rockets do with point guards.
nol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2018, 02:01 PM   #306
Logan
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NYC
nol am I imagining things or weren't you off the board for a while?
Logan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2018, 02:26 PM   #307
Neuqua
Pro Rookie
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago, Ill
I think I get the logic from the Bulls side. They've probably played their way out of a top 3 pick over the last couple months. If they end up with picks 7 and 17, they can possibly package the two to try to get into the top 5 to land one of the studs.

Only have to pay Asik this year and next, and we're way below the floor anyway.
__________________
Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

Last edited by Neuqua : 02-01-2018 at 02:26 PM.
Neuqua is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2018, 02:31 PM   #308
nol
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Logan View Post
nol am I imagining things or weren't you off the board for a while?

Yes, I got banned for like six months because I made a post in the Trump thread telling someone that constantly resorting to both sides-ism betrays a lack of nuance and critical thinking (no profanity or anything, it apparently just ďwasnít civilĒ). Donít remember exactly when it happened but it was a couple weeks before Charlottesville.
nol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2018, 05:12 PM   #309
JeeberD
General Manager
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Town of Flower Mound
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atocep View Post
Harden with a 60 point triple double tonight.

No love from anyone else for an all-time NBA first? Yeesh...tough crowd.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shkspr View Post
In other news, Isaiah Canaan apparently received word that LeBron James had nominated him to the All-Star team before tonight's game against the Mavs. Destiny ensued.

He was averaging 8 points and 4 assists in 20 games...and he was going to the ASG?
__________________
UTEP Miners!!!

I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO
JeeberD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2018, 07:45 PM   #310
miami_fan
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeeberD View Post
No love from anyone else for an all-time NBA first? Yeesh...tough crowd.

I thought we decided that triple doubles were insignificant last year.
__________________
I introduce to you the 2018-2019 NBA champion, Jeremy Lin!
miami_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2018, 10:10 PM   #311
Shkspr
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Amarillo, TX
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeeberD View Post

He was averaging 8 points and 4 assists in 20 games...and he was going to the ASG?

It was a prank call, but enough to put him on the List.
Shkspr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2018, 12:49 PM   #312
stevew
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
Is this Joakim Noah deal one of the worst in sports history? It's like he's the Bossman Jr putting up .175 batting averages.
stevew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2018, 07:12 PM   #313
nol
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevew View Post
Is this Joakim Noah deal one of the worst in sports history? It's like he's the Bossman Jr putting up .175 batting averages.

Iím old enough to remember when Austin Rivers was the worst free agent signing of 2016. Not Noah, not Mogzov, not Deng, not Biyombo, not Evan Turner, not Jamal Crawford, but someone who signed for half as much money and is actually an average NBA player.

Last edited by nol : 02-02-2018 at 07:13 PM.
nol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 08:40 PM   #314
miami_fan
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
That Porzingis video does not look good.
__________________
I introduce to you the 2018-2019 NBA champion, Jeremy Lin!
miami_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 09:36 PM   #315
Shkspr
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Amarillo, TX
Add one to the List.
Shkspr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2018, 11:04 PM   #316
stevew
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
Lou Williams only getting 3 years and 24 million dollars with a partial guarantee on the third year seems like too little money.

I don't know why the Knicks traded Willy hernangomez. At the price of two number two picks he seems like an excellent risk
stevew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 12:21 PM   #317
BishopMVP
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Concord, MA/UMass
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevew View Post
Lou Williams only getting 3 years and 24 million dollars with a partial guarantee on the third year seems like too little money.

I don't know why the Knicks traded Willy hernangomez. At the price of two number two picks he seems like an excellent risk
It's a little surprising, but he is 31 and the market this summer is going to be very very rough for free agents.

After last season, trading Hernangomez for that does seem light, but I also don't understand why they weren't playing him more.

Isaiah, Cleveland 1st this year (protected, not sure how), and Channing Frye to the Lakers for Jordan Clarkson & Larry Nance. Didn't see that one coming, good on the Lakers to move Clarkson's contract while actually getting a 1st & not sending picks with it, even if they had to attach Nance.
BishopMVP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 12:27 PM   #318
albionmoonlight
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
Lakers need to make a big FA splash to maintain their Lakerness.

Boogie?
albionmoonlight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 12:33 PM   #319
BishopMVP
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Concord, MA/UMass
Quote:
Originally Posted by albionmoonlight View Post
Lakers need to make a big FA splash to maintain their Lakerness.

Boogie?
Bro, they're totally getting LeBron & Paul George!
BishopMVP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 12:48 PM   #320
JPhillips
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevew View Post
Lou Williams only getting 3 years and 24 million dollars with a partial guarantee on the third year seems like too little money.

I don't know why the Knicks traded Willy hernangomez. At the price of two number two picks he seems like an excellent risk

And why trade him now that minutes are free due to KP's injury? I'm sure he'd still be worth two seconds this summer and might show something that gets a better return.
__________________
To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers
JPhillips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 12:59 PM   #321
MrBug708
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
Good deal for the Lakers
__________________
Richard Karstark - Ruler of Karhold - Bannerman of House Stark

KKiTTLeS21: UCLA r0x d00d, #1
MrBug708 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 01:06 PM   #322
BishopMVP
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Concord, MA/UMass
Quote:
Originally Posted by nol View Post
This is no different what I already said, which is that even 6% is a tenfold increase at getting into the top 3 compared to what the odds are as the best lottery team and that at the very least, it's a nice fringe benefit to trading Griffin when I would not have expected any takers for him.
I so missed these "debates" during your hiatus...

Are you still holding on to the Clippers improving their lottery odds with the Griffin trade, or are you ready to admit that it was about moving Griffin's contract and had nothing to do with draft position this year? They're a team that's now acquired Gallinari, Harris, Teodosic, possibly Bradley (who might be moved today), and re-signed Lou Williams in the past 9 months, which is exactly the roster construction that will put you in 7th-10th in the conference.

They think that's a better bet to getting back into championship contention than going the full future asset over current value route, and maybe LA with Ballmer willing to spend and Jerry West to arrange meetings can pull it off, but it's clear what route they've chosen.
Quote:
I get that he used to play for the Celtics but he's not good. His RPM is -2.98 (3rd worst of SGs who play more than 20 minutes a game) and for an alleged defensive specialist there's a pretty substantial track record of his teams defending better overall when he's not on the court. Signing both Bradley and Williams long-term would have the Clippers in the luxury tax for what would be a low-tier playoff team in the event a bunch of older players managed to stay healthy and avoid decline, which would obviously be a pretty dumb proposition.
Bradley did used to play for the Celtics! And I was one of the fans who understood why it made more sense for him to be traded than Smart last summer and wasn't too upset to see him leave, because he will likely get overpaid this summer (though the way people talk about the market gets gloomier and gloomier every day). But he's still a good NBA rotation player (albeit one who should not have the usage rate he had in Detroit) and a good on-ball defender who would pair nicely with guards like Teodosic and LouWill who can't defend PG's for their life. RPM can be a nice data point, and it does indicate he's not as good on defense as his biggest supporters claim, but strictly using that is how you end up with people claiming Jae Crowder is a top 10 SF last offseason. We'll see if he gets moved today or not, but I'm willing to trust the Spurs player evaluation over RPM numbers in a vacuum.
BishopMVP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 01:10 PM   #323
BishopMVP
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Concord, MA/UMass
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPhillips View Post
And why trade him now that minutes are free due to KP's injury? I'm sure he'd still be worth two seconds this summer and might show something that gets a better return.
Apparently some in the organization didn't like that he & KP spoke together in Spanish occasionally? Idk, somehow even with Phil gone that organization still seems to be doing random things to annoy their alleged franchise player.

2nd HUGE deal for Cleveland. They're getting Rodney Hood & George Hill while shipping out Crowder, Shumpert & "Derek" Rose according to Woj. Also sending Dwyane Wade back to Miami. This has to be the record for most players traded on one in season day for a top 4 team in their conference.
BishopMVP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 01:22 PM   #324
BishopMVP
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Concord, MA/UMass
Gotta say I like the overall moves from Cleveland today. The break from GM LeBron is real, and replacing his big name friends (and IT/Crowder) with younger, more athletic wings (plus JR Smith staying) should make them better for the rest of the season. Not sure it'll end up making a material difference in May unless they can add another big on the buyout market or Tristan Thompson can get back to his old self, but to do all this while holding on to the Brooklyn pick is pretty nice.
BishopMVP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 01:24 PM   #325
Logan
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NYC
Who knows how it works out but I give them credit for trying. Sure as hell didn't seem to be working as is.
Logan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 02:26 PM   #326
Chief Rum
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
Quote:
Originally Posted by BishopMVP View Post
I so missed these "debates" during your hiatus...

Are you still holding on to the Clippers improving their lottery odds with the Griffin trade, or are you ready to admit that it was about moving Griffin's contract and had nothing to do with draft position this year? They're a team that's now acquired Gallinari, Harris, Teodosic, possibly Bradley (who might be moved today), and re-signed Lou Williams in the past 9 months, which is exactly the roster construction that will put you in 7th-10th in the conference.

They think that's a better bet to getting back into championship contention than going the full future asset over current value route, and maybe LA with Ballmer willing to spend and Jerry West to arrange meetings can pull it off, but it's clear what route they've chosen.
Bradley did used to play for the Celtics! And I was one of the fans who understood why it made more sense for him to be traded than Smart last summer and wasn't too upset to see him leave, because he will likely get overpaid this summer (though the way people talk about the market gets gloomier and gloomier every day). But he's still a good NBA rotation player (albeit one who should not have the usage rate he had in Detroit) and a good on-ball defender who would pair nicely with guards like Teodosic and LouWill who can't defend PG's for their life. RPM can be a nice data point, and it does indicate he's not as good on defense as his biggest supporters claim, but strictly using that is how you end up with people claiming Jae Crowder is a top 10 SF last offseason. We'll see if he gets moved today or not, but I'm willing to trust the Spurs player evaluation over RPM numbers in a vacuum.

You might be waiting for a while on a response.
__________________
.
.

I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.
Chief Rum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 02:37 PM   #327
stevew
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
Thank Christ we moved the midget elsewhere. And also dumped Jae Crowder at the same time. Maybe we're fucked, but fuck both of those guys.

Last edited by stevew : 02-08-2018 at 02:45 PM.
stevew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 02:58 PM   #328
stevew
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
Quote:
Originally Posted by BishopMVP View Post
Apparently some in the organization didn't like that he & KP spoke together in Spanish occasionally? Idk, somehow even with Phil gone that organization still seems to be doing random things to annoy their alleged franchise player.

2nd HUGE deal for Cleveland. They're getting Rodney Hood & George Hill while shipping out Crowder, Shumpert & "Derek" Rose according to Woj. Also sending Dwyane Wade back to Miami. This has to be the record for most players traded on one in season day for a top 4 team in their conference.

https://www.basketball-reference.com...802220CLE.html

I still remember this game. Cavs had 2 bench guys that pretty much never played again after that week stretch.
stevew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 03:28 PM   #329
stevew
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
Kendrick Perkins back to the Cavs, lol
stevew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 03:50 PM   #330
korme
Go Reds
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Dayton, OH
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevew View Post
Thank Christ we moved the midget elsewhere. And also dumped Jae Crowder at the same time. Maybe we're fucked, but fuck both of those guys.

__________________
"A common error: to have the strength of one's convictions. Rather, one should have the strength for an attack on their convictions."

Twitter
korme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 04:02 PM   #331
JonInMiddleGA
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
Okay, somebody help me understand this one. (all of this just "reportedly" at this point I guess)

Hawks acquire Sheldon Mac from Wizards for cash.
Hawks plan to waive Mac (who is out for the year with an injury anyway).

Surely there has to be some sort of cap benefit or something for Atlanta on that deal, something other than future goodwill from WAS down the line ... right?
__________________
"I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis
JonInMiddleGA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 04:06 PM   #332
stevew
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
Wade and Frye were the only guys out of the 6 that we traded today that were above replacement level. I like Nance, Clarkson shoots too many garbage 3s. Hill and Hood are better than the trash they're replacing.
stevew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 04:12 PM   #333
stevew
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA View Post
Okay, somebody help me understand this one. (all of this just "reportedly" at this point I guess)

Hawks acquire Sheldon Mac from Wizards for cash.
Hawks plan to waive Mac (who is out for the year with an injury anyway).

Surely there has to be some sort of cap benefit or something for Atlanta on that deal, something other than future goodwill from WAS down the line ... right?

Assuming that the Hawks are getting something for this, probably all of the cash to pay his salary and then several hundred grand extra. Wash was saving 2.5 or so in luxury tax.

And how confusing is it that Sheldon Mac and Shelvin Mack both exist?
stevew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 04:14 PM   #334
korme
Go Reds
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Dayton, OH
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA View Post
Okay, somebody help me understand this one. (all of this just "reportedly" at this point I guess)

Hawks acquire Sheldon Mac from Wizards for cash.
Hawks plan to waive Mac (who is out for the year with an injury anyway).

Surely there has to be some sort of cap benefit or something for Atlanta on that deal, something other than future goodwill from WAS down the line ... right?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOPS RUMORS
By moving Mac, the Wizards will reduce their projected luxury tax bill and will open up a spot on their 15-man roster in case they want to get involved in the buyout market. The Hawks, meanwhile, will likely receive enough cash in the deal from Washington to cover the remaining portion of Macís salary.

Actually, I can't find anything that suggests otherwise. It looks like goodwill might be the case here.
__________________
"A common error: to have the strength of one's convictions. Rather, one should have the strength for an attack on their convictions."

Twitter
korme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 04:21 PM   #335
stevew
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
I think if Wash was paying 2.5m into the luxury tax, all the teams under would be hacking that apart, so as long as Atlanta got something like 100k more than Mac's salary, they won on the balance sheet.
stevew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 04:51 PM   #336
JonInMiddleGA
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
Okay, the Mac deal may make more sense now than it did on the first two reports.

What I saw on both ESPN and in the AJC was "Hawks acquire Mac for cash"

What I'm seeing now in other rumors says "Hawks get Mac and cash, for a provisional 2nd round pick"
__________________
"I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis
JonInMiddleGA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 06:36 PM   #337
Atocep
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Tacoma
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevew View Post
Wade and Frye were the only guys out of the 6 that we traded today that were above replacement level. I like Nance, Clarkson shoots too many garbage 3s. Hill and Hood are better than the trash they're replacing.

Wade is toxic as hell and Thomas reverted back to his old bullshit while playing less defense than ever.

Overall I don't think Cleveland did bad today. Shipping Wade and Thomas out is probably addition by subtraction.

I'm not convinced Lue has a clue what he's doing, but Cleveland is probably a bit better overall when you look at the guys leaving compared to those coming in. If Lebron leaves they're fucked though.
Atocep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 07:37 PM   #338
miami_fan
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
Just checking in to find out when the Cavs will be showing the I.T. tribute video.
__________________
I introduce to you the 2018-2019 NBA champion, Jeremy Lin!

Last edited by miami_fan : 02-08-2018 at 07:38 PM.
miami_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 09:38 PM   #339
jbergey22
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Minnesota
I guess the Cavs werent impressed with Isaiah Thomas. They now have a team that blends in nicely with Lebron and how a strong Lebron James team is built. If only they could have gotten Jordan.

-They still need a second scoring option and some sort of low post threat. Lebron will like playing with this team which will make them better.
jbergey22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 09:58 PM   #340
stevew
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
Quote:
Originally Posted by miami_fan View Post
Just checking in to find out when the Cavs will be showing the I.T. tribute video.

It's really short and loud and not as good as people want to say it is.
stevew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 10:28 PM   #341
JonInMiddleGA
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevew View Post
It's really short and loud and not as good as people want to say it is.

But people paid a lot of money to make it lol
__________________
"I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis
JonInMiddleGA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 10:28 PM   #342
Groundhog
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sydney, Australia
TBH, I think the Cavs did great unless it turns out that the problem is less the guys traded away than it is the guys that are still there (which I'm 55% sure is the case).
__________________
Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.
--Ambrose Bierce
Groundhog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2018, 12:11 AM   #343
BishopMVP
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Concord, MA/UMass
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Rum View Post
You might be waiting for a while on a response.
Awww, but he seemed so chastened by his previous suspension. Too bad, the antagonism was over the top, but he added some life to these threads.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevew View Post
Assuming that the Hawks are getting something for this, probably all of the cash to pay his salary and then several hundred grand extra. Wash was saving 2.5 or so in luxury tax.

And how confusing is it that Sheldon Mac and Shelvin Mack both exist?
I'll admit I was confused why people kept egregiously misspelling Shelvin Mack... but it's even more confusing once you realize Sheldon Mac was Sheldon McClellan who played at Texas then Miami, but legally changed his surname last year because it came from his father with whom he has no relationship (at least according to Wikipedia, and who am I to doubt Wikipedia?)
BishopMVP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2018, 06:36 PM   #344
stevew
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
A day later, I really like this Cavaliers team. If or when LeBron leaves this offseason, we should at least get some sort of solid Wing in the draft. I don't think that you'd have to burn It to the Ground this time. Especially if you get the top 4, any of those guys could plug and play with what we have and our team would win 45 or so games and make the playoffs
stevew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2018, 07:43 PM   #345
miami_fan
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
Semi serious question. How great does the player picked with the Brooklyn pick have to be to not be considered a bust? Between the Celtics and the Cavs, the buildup for this pick has been exhausting.
__________________
I introduce to you the 2018-2019 NBA champion, Jeremy Lin!
miami_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2018, 10:10 PM   #346
stevew
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
I mean he's not going to be as good as Kyrie Irving not even close
stevew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2018, 03:27 AM   #347
Groundhog
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sydney, Australia
I think I'd draft Luka Doncic over any American this coming draft.
__________________
Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.
--Ambrose Bierce
Groundhog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2018, 04:15 PM   #348
korme
Go Reds
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Dayton, OH
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevew View Post
I mean he's not going to be as good as Kyrie Irving not even close

How do you know that?
__________________
"A common error: to have the strength of one's convictions. Rather, one should have the strength for an attack on their convictions."

Twitter
korme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2018, 05:08 PM   #349
miami_fan
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
Dear Basketball Gods,

Please add Derrick Rose to the Wizards locker room. Thanks.

Signed,
People that will miss the chaos of the pre trade deadline Cavs locker room.
__________________
I introduce to you the 2018-2019 NBA champion, Jeremy Lin!
miami_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2018, 04:07 AM   #350
BishopMVP
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Concord, MA/UMass
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevew View Post
A day later, I really like this Cavaliers team. If or when LeBron leaves this offseason, we should at least get some sort of solid Wing in the draft. I don't think that you'd have to burn It to the Ground this time. Especially if you get the top 4, any of those guys could plug and play with what we have and our team would win 45 or so games and make the playoffs
Draft's great, but it's not wing heavy at the top after Doncic. And outside of maybe Jaren Jackson or the wild card Porter the top players (Ayton, Bagley, Young, Sexton?, Bamba?) will be so atrocious on one side of the ball they'll be negative players their rookie year. Miles Bridges would be a plug & play wing that would make sense if the BK pick ends up around 8th/9th.

I did like the Cavs moves a lot with the exception of Clarkson. Hood and Nance are nice players (though we'll see if Hood can mentally handle being LeBron's teammate.) Clarkson is better on D and won't speak out like IT did, but injured rusty IT had the same true shooting % Clarkson does for his career.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Groundhog View Post
I think I'd draft Luka Doncic over any American this coming draft.
There are respected scouts out there who think anyone who wouldn't draft Doncic #1 is an idiot... but there are also respected scouts who think you have to go with one of the NCAA bigs. To do what Doncic has at 18 for Real & at Eurobasket is crazy, and he has the highest floor, but he's merely a very good athlete and not the insane outlier you can dream on like an Ayton or Bagley (or Jackson).
Quote:
Originally Posted by miami_fan View Post
Semi serious question. How great does the player picked with the Brooklyn pick have to be to not be considered a bust? Between the Celtics and the Cavs, the buildup for this pick has been exhausting.
I don't think that has anything to do with it. If the pick ends up like 8th or the Cavs get lucky & its top 3 should the expectations be the same? Now, how good do they have to be to make the Kyrie trade not look like highway robbery is an interesting question.

PS thanks for reminding me that technically now the Celtics got Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Kyrie, and the LaKings pick in that Nets deal. If the Lakers pick conveys & we get one of those bigs this year goodness gracious that deal just gets more absurd.
BishopMVP is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:58 AM.



Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.