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CU Tiger · 03-25-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Razor Ramon is the last one in this year's Hall of Fame.

Hall with an open mic...I might have to tune in for this. Even if he is sober he was always a bit of a loose cannon with a mic

dave731 · 03-25-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Hall with an open mic...I might have to tune in for this. Even if he is sober he was always a bit of a loose cannon with a mic

I can't wait for it...

JonInMiddleGA · 04-07-2014, 01:06 PM

edit: The headline didn't show with the link. "Jeff Jarrett Reveals Global Force Wrestling"

http://www.wrestlingrumors.net/jeff-...omotion/20231/

JonInMiddleGA · 04-07-2014, 08:06 PM

I may not give a shit about Lesnar, may not think it was a good business decision ... but Heyman is f'n owning the mic.

CU Tiger · 04-07-2014, 08:20 PM

Heyman is one of those guys who just grates my nerves. Much like Vicki Guerro (sp?) and not in a positive mad heat sort of way but rather in a change the channel cant stand the voice way.

I am sitting here doing Continuing Education on the laptop with the TV on for background noise and I had to mute the TV until that bit was done.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-07-2014, 08:31 PM

Meanwhile, Damian Sandow just got the sort of match that seems to precede being wished well in your future endeavors.

CU Tiger · 04-07-2014, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Meanwhile, Damian Sandow just got the sort of match that seems to precede being wished well in your future endeavors.

Walked out of the room.

Cliffs?

JonInMiddleGA · 04-07-2014, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Walked out of the room.

Got pretty much squashed by RVD.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-07-2014, 09:05 PM

Helwig got through his promo reasonably well I thought. I mean, okay, it was kinda incoherent but in a controlled classic Ulti kind of way.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-07-2014, 10:09 PM

I believe that's what we call a face turn

Carman Bulldog · 04-07-2014, 10:21 PM

It won't ever happen, but I'd love to see a War Games match with Bryan and The Shield against Evolution/Authority.

BishopMVP · 04-07-2014, 10:31 PM

The only way this storyline can get better is if they make it a WarGames match.

Edit - Haha +1Carman

dubb93 · 04-07-2014, 10:37 PM

Someone specifically said the word "War" regarding this feud tonight. I think it might have been Triple H. I assume everything Triple H says is said for a reason. Gives hope that maybe that match will be brought back.

General Mike · 04-07-2014, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Someone specifically said the word "War" regarding this feud tonight. I think it might have been Triple H. I assume everything Triple H says is said for a reason. Gives hope that maybe that match will be brought back.

I'm pretty sure HHH wanted to do a War Games match before but Vince wouldn't let him. I wanna say it was around 2003 or 4.

BishopMVP · 04-07-2014, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

I'm pretty sure HHH wanted to do a War Games match before but Vince wouldn't let him. I wanna say it was around 2003 or 4.

As someone who wasn't paying any attention during that period, what's the backstory on that? Why did WWE stop doing them?

Matthean · 04-08-2014, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

As someone who wasn't paying any attention during that period, what's the backstory on that? Why did WWE stop doing them?

It was a NWA/WCW idea.

WarGames match - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

EDIT: WWE had them but they got renamed so they aren't 100% the same.

General Mike · 04-08-2014, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

As someone who wasn't paying any attention during that period, what's the backstory on that? Why did WWE stop doing them?

Vince McMahon hates the idea that someone else may have had a good idea. My time frame might be off anyway and it was probably closer to the timing of the first Elimination Chamber match.

SirFozzie · 04-08-2014, 11:10 PM

RIP the Ultimate Warrior.

it's kinda nuts that the day after three days in which he buried the hatchet permanently with WWE (the Hall of Fame, Wrestlemania and Monday Night Raw), this happens.

Ultimate Warrior passes away | WWE.com

JonInMiddleGA · 04-08-2014, 11:26 PM

Just saw that

Rest in peace Jim Hellwig, you were truly one of a kind.

PilotMan · 04-08-2014, 11:35 PM

Holy shit was that anticipated?

molson · 04-08-2014, 11:39 PM

Here's his promo from just last night on RAW (complete with line about how "every man's heart will beat it's final beat.")

2014 WWE Hall of Famer Ultimate Warrior speaks: Raw, April 7, 2014 - YouTube

With hindsight, I guess, maybe he doesn't look so great here? (Edit: At about 3:00, he's completely out of breath - of course, it was a Warrior promo, so that can happen). He was a 54-year old guy, but if you look at his wikipedia photo and other recent photos - he doesn't look so great here by comparison. Could just be me seeing things that aren't there.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-08-2014, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Holy shit was that anticipated?

Given the solid appearances he made over WM weekend, that seems like a complete absolute "No".

And the wrestlers tweeting seem to be in utter & complete shock. This one in particular kinda choked me up

Deeply saddened. We just had a great talk & buried a senseless hatchet. Talked working together. RIP Warrior. Taking solace we made peace.
— JakeSnakeDDT (@JakeSnakeDDT) April 9, 2014

JonInMiddleGA · 04-08-2014, 11:53 PM

I don't want to read too much into anything so don't get me wrong here but his final promo is rather eerie to read in the wake of this news

SirFozzie · 04-09-2014, 12:03 AM

Looks like a heart attack.

Ultimate Warrior Dies -- Dead at 54 ... Collapsed at AZ Hotel | TMZ.com

“Officials tell TMZ … Warrior collapsed outside an Arizona hotel at 5:50 PM on April 8th … while walking to his car with his wife. Warrior was transported to a nearby hospital … where he was pronounced dead.”

jbergey22 · 04-09-2014, 12:17 AM

Wow, very strange. He seemed very excited and was sweating a lot. But to imagine a short time later he would be dead is unthinkable. Seeing how his little girls responded to his speech on Saturday night at this point really saddens me. RIP Warrior.

Matthean · 04-09-2014, 02:39 AM

I think he was sweating a lot in the promo due to wearing a full business suit, a Warrior jacket, and trying to be the Warrior.

Lathum · 04-09-2014, 06:01 AM

When I was a kid and watched wrestling he was always my favorite. RIP.

BYU 14 · 04-09-2014, 06:51 AM

Really shocking news, seemed like he always took care of himself after wrestling, but again it could have been brought about by the 80's wrestling lifestyle. Still way too young and I agree, his last promo was eerily prophetic.

RIP

SegRat · 04-09-2014, 08:38 AM

I'm glad he made it into the hall before his passing. He was my favorite wrestler as a kid. RIP Warrior.

Lathum · 04-09-2014, 10:46 AM

Any chance this is a publicity stunt fueled by McMahon?

molson · 04-09-2014, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Any chance this is a publicity stunt fueled by McMahon?

No. The WWE is a publicly traded global billion-dollar company with many business relationships and sponors. And even back in their more rogue and independent days, they never faked a legit death to the news media. Or even really trolled the media at all.

Matthean · 04-12-2014, 11:06 AM

Shawne Merriman, former member of San Diego Chargers and Buffalo Bills, joins WWE - ESPN

Toddzilla · 04-13-2014, 08:56 AM

I ran into Mark Canterbury this morning, a.k.a. Henry Godwin of the WWE. Super nice guy, eager to talk about his career and such. He's now happily married to a lady that lives in my town and they are working on building a house and moving back to West Virginia where he is from.

I wanted to mention that I remembered him more as Shanghai Pierce but totally forgot.

DaddyTorgo · 04-13-2014, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

I ran into Mark Canterbury this morning, a.k.a. Henry Godwin of the WWE. Super nice guy, eager to talk about his career and such. He's now happily married to a lady that lives in my town and they are working on building a house and moving back to West Virginia where he is from.

I wanted to mention that I remembered him more as Shanghai Pierce but totally forgot.

Well presumably you'll see him again...

Matthean · 04-14-2014, 08:29 PM

Ultimate Warrior died from cardiovascular disease - ESPN

miami_fan · 04-22-2014, 10:13 AM

Are Pro Wrestlers Dying at an Unusual Rate? | FiveThirtyEight

Put in this context, the Wrestlemania card was a bit jarring to me.

Toddzilla · 04-22-2014, 10:24 AM

Not lying, watching Bryan at the top of Raw looking to the heavens made me tear up. A lot. I'm glad they're writing him off for a while.

dubb93 · 05-04-2014, 01:25 PM

Clash of the Champions start to roll out on WWE Network this week. Clash 1 airs on Monday, Clash 2 on Tuesday. After all the Clash of the Champions have aired, Saturday Night's Main Event is next and will roll out in a similar structure apparently where they air on the Network and then are added to the VOD library.

molson · 05-04-2014, 01:50 PM

I've decided today is awesome Scott Steiner promo day.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 05-06-2014, 07:07 PM

Awesome stuff.

Neuqua · 05-06-2014, 07:22 PM

General Mike · 05-06-2014, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Clash of the Champions start to roll out on WWE Network this week. Clash 1 airs on Monday, Clash 2 on Tuesday. After all the Clash of the Champions have aired, Saturday Night's Main Event is next and will roll out in a similar structure apparently where they air on the Network and then are added to the VOD library.

Can't wait.

And here is my scott steiner promo

Content4BM Moment #59: Steiner's History Lesson - YouTube

Suicane75 · 05-07-2014, 12:21 AM

The best part about that Rollins jump was that Ambrose, Orton & HHH all went down the steps, and my buddy and I watching it were waiting for them to move back towards the stairs because we thought Rollins was going to do something, but they never got into position. So we waited and waited, and then boom, from a completely different direction and completely out of nowhere he takes them all out. Was awesome live.

RainMaker · 05-07-2014, 01:02 AM

It was awesome on TV too. No one saw it coming.

The Shield is great. All those guys should be stars someday.

Maple Leafs · 05-07-2014, 07:30 PM

That Rollins dive was so scary that I hear they're booking Daniel Bryan to spend the next RAW running away from it while crying.

RainMaker · 05-07-2014, 08:04 PM

The Daniel Bryan - Kane storyline is real bad.

Neuqua · 05-07-2014, 10:35 PM

It really is.

I wish Bryan wasn't such a "yes man" backstage and offered input on his character's storyline.

Suicane75 · 05-08-2014, 12:33 AM

Every midcard, not quite who they wanted, world champion gets a program with Kane. It's a right of passage. One can only hope that a Brie/Kane wedding is set for the near future.

RainMaker · 05-08-2014, 01:09 AM

I don't have a problem with a program with Kane. Just the whole D-level scary movie plot is bad.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-08-2014, 05:34 PM

10 bells for former WCW announcer/personality Lee Marshall.
Rest in peace.

Voice of Tony the Tiger Dead -- Lee Marshall Dies at 64 | TMZ.com

04-07-2014, 01:06 PM	#5003
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	edit: The headline didn't show with the link. "Jeff Jarrett Reveals Global Force Wrestling" http://www.wrestlingrumors.net/jeff-...omotion/20231/ __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 04-07-2014 at 01:06 PM.

04-07-2014, 08:06 PM	#5004
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I may not give a shit about Lesnar, may not think it was a good business decision ... but Heyman is f'n owning the mic. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-07-2014, 08:31 PM	#5006
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Meanwhile, Damian Sandow just got the sort of match that seems to precede being wished well in your future endeavors. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-07-2014, 09:05 PM	#5009
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Helwig got through his promo reasonably well I thought. I mean, okay, it was kinda incoherent but in a controlled classic Ulti kind of way. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-07-2014, 10:09 PM	#5010
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I believe that's what we call a face turn __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-07-2014, 08:20 PM	#5005
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	Heyman is one of those guys who just grates my nerves. Much like Vicki Guerro (sp?) and not in a positive mad heat sort of way but rather in a change the channel cant stand the voice way. I am sitting here doing Continuing Education on the laptop with the TV on for background noise and I had to mute the TV until that bit was done.

04-07-2014, 10:21 PM	#5011
Carman Bulldog College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada	It won't ever happen, but I'd love to see a War Games match with Bryan and The Shield against Evolution/Authority.

04-07-2014, 10:31 PM	#5012
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	The only way this storyline can get better is if they make it a WarGames match. Edit - Haha +1Carman Last edited by BishopMVP : 04-07-2014 at 10:32 PM.

04-08-2014, 11:10 PM	#5018
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	RIP the Ultimate Warrior. it's kinda nuts that the day after three days in which he buried the hatchet permanently with WWE (the Hall of Fame, Wrestlemania and Monday Night Raw), this happens. Ultimate Warrior passes away \| WWE.com __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

04-08-2014, 11:26 PM	#5019
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Just saw that Rest in peace Jim Hellwig, you were truly one of a kind. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-08-2014, 11:35 PM	#5020
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Holy shit was that anticipated? __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

04-08-2014, 11:39 PM	#5021
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Here's his promo from just last night on RAW (complete with line about how "every man's heart will beat it's final beat.") 2014 WWE Hall of Famer Ultimate Warrior speaks: Raw, April 7, 2014 - YouTube With hindsight, I guess, maybe he doesn't look so great here? (Edit: At about 3:00, he's completely out of breath - of course, it was a Warrior promo, so that can happen). He was a 54-year old guy, but if you look at his wikipedia photo and other recent photos - he doesn't look so great here by comparison. Could just be me seeing things that aren't there. Last edited by molson : 04-09-2014 at 12:11 AM.

04-08-2014, 11:53 PM	#5023
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I don't want to read too much into anything so don't get me wrong here but his final promo is rather eerie to read in the wake of this news __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-09-2014, 12:03 AM	#5024
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Looks like a heart attack. Ultimate Warrior Dies -- Dead at 54 ... Collapsed at AZ Hotel \| TMZ.com “Officials tell TMZ … Warrior collapsed outside an Arizona hotel at 5:50 PM on April 8th … while walking to his car with his wife. Warrior was transported to a nearby hospital … where he was pronounced dead.” __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

04-09-2014, 12:17 AM	#5025
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Wow, very strange. He seemed very excited and was sweating a lot. But to imagine a short time later he would be dead is unthinkable. Seeing how his little girls responded to his speech on Saturday night at this point really saddens me. RIP Warrior.

04-09-2014, 02:39 AM	#5026
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	I think he was sweating a lot in the promo due to wearing a full business suit, a Warrior jacket, and trying to be the Warrior. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

04-09-2014, 06:01 AM	#5027
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	When I was a kid and watched wrestling he was always my favorite. RIP.

04-09-2014, 06:51 AM	#5028
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Really shocking news, seemed like he always took care of himself after wrestling, but again it could have been brought about by the 80's wrestling lifestyle. Still way too young and I agree, his last promo was eerily prophetic. RIP

04-09-2014, 08:38 AM	#5029
SegRat High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oshkosh, WI	I'm glad he made it into the hall before his passing. He was my favorite wrestler as a kid. RIP Warrior. __________________ USFL: Charlotte Fightn' Squirrels

04-09-2014, 10:46 AM	#5030
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Any chance this is a publicity stunt fueled by McMahon?

04-12-2014, 11:06 AM	#5032
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Shawne Merriman, former member of San Diego Chargers and Buffalo Bills, joins WWE - ESPN __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

04-13-2014, 08:56 AM	#5033
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	I ran into Mark Canterbury this morning, a.k.a. Henry Godwin of the WWE. Super nice guy, eager to talk about his career and such. He's now happily married to a lady that lives in my town and they are working on building a house and moving back to West Virginia where he is from. I wanted to mention that I remembered him more as Shanghai Pierce but totally forgot.

04-14-2014, 08:29 PM	#5035
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Ultimate Warrior died from cardiovascular disease - ESPN __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

04-22-2014, 10:13 AM	#5036
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Are Pro Wrestlers Dying at an Unusual Rate? \| FiveThirtyEight Put in this context, the Wrestlemania card was a bit jarring to me. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

04-22-2014, 10:24 AM	#5037
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Not lying, watching Bryan at the top of Raw looking to the heavens made me tear up. A lot. I'm glad they're writing him off for a while.

05-04-2014, 01:50 PM	#5039
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I've decided today is awesome Scott Steiner promo day. Last edited by molson : 05-04-2014 at 01:50 PM.

05-06-2014, 07:07 PM	#5040
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Awesome stuff.

05-06-2014, 07:22 PM	#5041
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	__________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

05-07-2014, 12:21 AM	#5043
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	The best part about that Rollins jump was that Ambrose, Orton & HHH all went down the steps, and my buddy and I watching it were waiting for them to move back towards the stairs because we thought Rollins was going to do something, but they never got into position. So we waited and waited, and then boom, from a completely different direction and completely out of nowhere he takes them all out. Was awesome live.

05-07-2014, 01:02 AM	#5044
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	It was awesome on TV too. No one saw it coming. The Shield is great. All those guys should be stars someday.

05-07-2014, 07:30 PM	#5045
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	That Rollins dive was so scary that I hear they're booking Daniel Bryan to spend the next RAW running away from it while crying. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

05-07-2014, 08:04 PM	#5046
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	The Daniel Bryan - Kane storyline is real bad.

05-07-2014, 10:35 PM	#5047
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	It really is. I wish Bryan wasn't such a "yes man" backstage and offered input on his character's storyline. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

05-08-2014, 12:33 AM	#5048
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Every midcard, not quite who they wanted, world champion gets a program with Kane. It's a right of passage. One can only hope that a Brie/Kane wedding is set for the near future.

05-08-2014, 01:09 AM	#5049
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I don't have a problem with a program with Kane. Just the whole D-level scary movie plot is bad.