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Old 04-29-2013, 11:32 PM   #651
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Hey korme, what years should I start hitting for player headshots?
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:15 AM   #652
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I've really only gotten probably 35-40 done, starting with the '46 starting rosters. I found it incredibly boring because of such slim name recognition. Pick a draft class and go from there, just let me know so we don't run over each other.
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:01 PM   #653
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Thought it was interesting that only 1 guard had ever won DPoY

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2004 NBA Defender of the Year Awards Award Pos Name Team PPG RPG APG SPG BPG ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2003 C Tyson Chandler Lakers 11.4 10.6 1.9 0.3 3.9 2002 C Marcus Camby Kings 12.6 11.1 2.6 1.3 3.4 2001 C Marcus Camby Kings 13.4 10.9 2.6 1.0 3.4 2000 C Alonzo Mourning Wizards 20.7 9.8 2.4 0.3 3.9 1999 C Alonzo Mourning Wizards 23.3 9.3 2.6 0.5 4.2 1998 C Alonzo Mourning Wizards 27.4 10.2 2.0 0.5 4.3 1997 C Marcus Camby Kings 13.4 8.7 2.0 1.1 3.9 1996 C Alonzo Mourning Bullets 27.0 11.1 2.3 0.5 5.1 1995 C Alonzo Mourning Bullets 23.3 10.5 2.0 0.4 5.0 1994 C David Robinson Nuggets 27.6 11.6 2.5 1.6 4.2 1993 C David Robinson Nuggets 31.3 13.0 2.7 1.4 4.2 1992 C David Robinson Nuggets 31.8 11.7 2.8 1.1 4.2 1991 C David Robinson Nuggets 33.2 12.0 2.6 1.1 5.4 1990 C Patrick Ewing Lakers 29.6 11.4 2.0 1.0 4.8 1989 C David Robinson Nuggets 28.0 10.6 2.5 0.9 3.9 1988 C Patrick Ewing Lakers 30.2 10.9 2.2 1.2 4.8 1987 C Patrick Ewing Lakers 27.5 9.8 1.9 1.0 4.5 1986 C Hakeem Olajuwon Bucks 22.1 10.8 2.0 0.9 5.2 1985 C Hakeem Olajuwon Bucks 19.4 9.7 2.3 1.2 4.1 1984 C Robert Parish Celtics 13.2 11.4 1.8 0.9 3.1 1983 PF Larry Nance Mavericks 21.8 9.7 3.4 1.0 3.8 1982 PF Larry Nance Mavericks 16.2 10.4 2.9 1.0 4.5 1981 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Kings 25.5 12.1 2.6 1.0 3.9 1980 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Kings 30.4 12.7 2.7 1.2 4.1 1979 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Kings 32.2 13.3 2.9 1.6 4.8 1978 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Kings 33.4 12.7 2.8 1.4 4.1 1977 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Kings 33.4 14.2 3.1 1.3 4.2 1976 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Kings 36.1 14.7 2.3 1.2 5.4 1975 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Kings 34.4 14.1 2.3 1.1 5.2 1974 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Kings 35.0 13.2 2.1 1.0 4.7 1973 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Kings 31.2 12.2 2.4 0.9 4.9 1972 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Kings 32.8 12.9 2.6 0.9 5.1 1971 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Royals 31.6 12.7 2.4 0.9 5.3 1970 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Royals 37.6 12.0 2.2 1.2 4.7 1969 C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Royals 35.6 12.2 2.6 1.1 3.9 1968 C Mel Daniels Bullets 23.9 14.8 1.8 0.8 4.5 1967 C Wilt Chamberlain 76ers 25.1 15.2 2.6 1.0 3.9 1966 C Bill Russell Celtics 9.7 11.1 2.4 0.8 4.7 1965 C Wilt Chamberlain 76ers 32.5 16.0 3.0 1.0 5.7 1964 C Wilt Chamberlain 76ers 32.7 16.1 2.6 0.9 5.7 1963 C Bill Russell Celtics 13.2 13.2 2.9 0.8 8.4 1962 C Bill Russell Celtics 14.1 14.1 3.0 0.6 8.9 1961 C Wilt Chamberlain Nationals 38.7 16.6 1.9 0.8 5.8 1960 C Wilt Chamberlain Nationals 44.6 18.1 1.7 1.0 6.2 1959 C Bill Russell Celtics 16.0 15.2 2.9 0.7 3.3 1958 C Bill Russell Celtics 17.0 15.9 2.5 0.6 3.7 1957 C Bill Russell Celtics 15.5 16.2 2.2 0.5 5.0 1956 PF Clyde Lovellette Lakers 18.0 7.8 1.1 1.2 1.4 1955 SF Paul Arizin Nationals 27.1 8.6 3.1 2.2 0.7 1954 PF Clyde Lovellette Bullets 29.9 12.1 1.3 1.0 1.4 1953 PF Clyde Lovellette Bullets 23.0 10.0 1.0 0.8 0.9 1952 C Charlie Share Lakers 10.5 10.3 1.1 0.4 1.0 1951 PG Mel Payton Warriors 13.4 6.3 1.8 2.1 0.2 1950 C Clarence Hermsen Knicks 10.7 10.0 0.8 0.2 0.7 1949 C Clarence Hermsen Knicks 13.1 13.2 0.9 0.5 0.8 1948 C Clarence Hermsen Knicks 12.4 11.8 0.9 0.4 0.7 1947 C Clarence Hermsen Knicks 13.7 15.3 0.9 0.4 0.6 1946 C John Mahnken Capitols 9.7 11.7 0.5 0.2 0.2
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:33 PM   #654
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I've really only gotten probably 35-40 done, starting with the '46 starting rosters. I found it incredibly boring because of such slim name recognition. Pick a draft class and go from there, just let me know so we don't run over each other.
I enjoy the research & challenge of finding the old pictures, so I'd be happy to start back in that era.

Is there a file that lists all the historical players in the game database?
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:46 PM   #655
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I started a 2012 league with current players with draft set to random debut. It was a blast until I realized the random debut option meant players I started with were coming back in the draft as rookies. Is there a way to change this

Suppose you could start the league using historical but normal debut in 2012 then immediately go and switch to random debut once the initial players are loaded but before running training camps. If you use a player file the game won't know that those players have appeared in the league already.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:47 PM   #656
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Thought it was interesting that only 1 guard had ever won DPoY

NVM my memory fails me lol.

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Old 04-30-2013, 06:53 PM   #657
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Jordan, moncrief twice and Robertson all won and are listed as guards.

But anyway, that's a minor nitpick...this game is a blue/blue rated game!
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:55 PM   #658
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Database: A lot of extensions arenŽt in the 2012 file of the historic DB, which might be part of the reason why i saw so many players move in Free Agency (Curry, Griffin, Lawson, Holiday, Harden, Ibaka, Marc Gasol among others). Bird Years also seem to be pretty out of tune.
Also some FA signing are on their "old" contracts, for example Lin and Asik.
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Free Agency : Would be nice to have the remaining cap space displayed on the overview screen.

It is already on the bottom menu? or do you mean for all teams somehow?

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Old 04-30-2013, 06:55 PM   #659
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Jordan, moncrief twice and Robertson all won and are listed as guards.

But anyway, that's a minor nitpick...this game is a blue/blue rated game!

Maybe just he was the last lol. Swear I heard that recently.
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:07 PM   #660
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another thing : Scoring seems way down playing with the historic 2012 option with historic modifiers.

Be more specific? Scoring in 2012 with modifiers on?

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Also, the pace modifier seems backwards. From the description (2000 doubles it) youŽd expect it to be "higher = faster" but itŽs the other way round, whereas other modifiers work as youŽd expect them to.

That one is backwards but once it is out that is how it is going to be.

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Any chance for modifiers on quantity of shots ? (i.e. number of 3s or inside shots in adition to percentages ?)

3 usage is pretty likely to be added if I go back and do more work on the stats.

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Another small thing: IŽd love for team stats including shooting locations as well, any chance for this ?

Complicated just because the data isn't currently saved for teams. Not out of the question but as easy as something already tracked.
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:10 PM   #661
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How do i sign a player to an extension ? CanŽt find a screen where to do that.

Player profile > negotiations in the dropdown

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Also, starting with the historical League in 2012, are there supposed to be records filled ?

Not currently.

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Another little thing: Could there be player of the week/month awards by conference ?

Been on my list (I have a big list).
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:36 PM   #662
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:02 PM   #663
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:16 AM   #664
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Sent a guy to the DLG, next thing I know he isn't on my roster. When I find him, it says my team waived him. I didn't do this. Did the DLG team waive him?
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:19 AM   #665
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Dawgfan has sent me through two new files re: historical team .csv files and historical logos and I've stuck them up on my site.

Using korme's files as their base, these will give you a logo with a coloured background that matches the team colour - ie. in other words the header bar on the team roster screen etc. will look like one seamless coloured bar including the logo. Looks pretty.
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:21 AM   #666
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Wow thanks for these! my game is looking even more awesome now. It seems when the team csv is updated some players dont show up on the historical database on there teams like the San Diego Clippers or Tri-City Blackhawks havent checked for other teams yet.

Chaparrals and Floridians also seem to be affected.(This has been like this since the last time Ive updated the csv)

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Old 05-01-2013, 07:40 AM   #667
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Has anybody had the Computer expand automatically like put a team in KC and Tampa Bay?

Is the ability to change DL Affliate with NBA Team in Game in future plans?

Theirs a way to get to S. Games in June thru September is create a League that play's it's Games in those months then all Offseason happenings in the NBA would happen at the same time but not seen only Draft if you own a Team.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:13 AM   #668
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Jordan, moncrief twice and Robertson all won and are listed as guards.

But anyway, that's a minor nitpick...this game is a blue/blue rated game!

Dont forget Michael Cooper
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:18 AM   #669
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just had one of my first round picks go to FA after year 2, did i miss sth ? I only remember getting an email giving me the possibility to decline his contract option, which i didnŽt.

Also need to report a huge bug : All FBCB players seem to enter with a 0 foul rating !
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:18 AM   #670
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Should CPU teams play their D2D guys during the playoffs? I just faced a team with a guy out 9 days at the start of the series, he's averaging 26-12. After 2 games he was D2D but sat the whole series and got swept.

His name is not Derrick Rose though.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:18 AM   #671
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just had one of my first round picks go to FA after year 2, did i miss sth ? I only remember getting an email giving me the possibility to decline his contract option, which i didnŽt.

Were you over the hard cap?
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:39 AM   #672
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Were you over the hard cap?

nah, not even close (sth like 40 mill under it)

another thing bugging me: Players retire too late/donŽt regress enough. Too many 40 year olds playing high level ball (sure the trend goes that way IRL, but not that much)

small thing: Is it possible to see where a player was drafted ? Could it be added to the achievement page ?
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:06 PM   #673
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small thing: Is it possible to see where a player was drafted ? Could it be added to the achievement page ?

It is listed on the transactions screen from the drop down on the player page.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:03 PM   #674
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Has anybody had the Computer expand automatically like put a team in KC and Tampa Bay?

Set expansion to random.

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Is the ability to change DL Affliate with NBA Team in Game in future plans?

You can change affiliates in the editors.

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Theirs a way to get to S. Games in June thru September is create a League that play's it's Games in those months then all Offseason happenings in the NBA would happen at the same time but not seen only Draft if you own a Team.

Not without rewriting huge chunks of the game.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:04 PM   #675
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Sent a guy to the DLG, next thing I know he isn't on my roster. When I find him, it says my team waived him. I didn't do this. Did the DLG team waive him?

Think I finally found how this is happening.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:06 PM   #676
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Wow thanks for these! my game is looking even more awesome now. It seems when the team csv is updated some players dont show up on the historical database on there teams like the San Diego Clippers or Tri-City Blackhawks havent checked for other teams yet.

Chaparrals and Floridians also seem to be affected.(This has been like this since the last time Ive updated the csv)

See here: Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Fast Break Pro Basketball 2013 Released!
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:44 PM   #677
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HR, this is copied from my dynasty thread:

Mike Sweetney is the only guy who got rotation minutes who is a FA - a 2nd round pick, his 2 year contract ran out. We technically don't have his Bird Rights, but it's saying we can go over the cap and sign him for more than the minimum? Can anyone explain that one?
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:53 PM   #678
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Just got a RTE 9 subscript out of range, viewing a player's achievements page. He has won awards at the NBDL level, so I went to sort by NBA only and the error popped up. I can send you the file if you can't recreate.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:55 PM   #679
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I enjoy the research & challenge of finding the old pictures, so I'd be happy to start back in that era.

Is there a file that lists all the historical players in the game database?

The way I was going to tackle it was just start at the '47 draft (after the '46 base was covered) and sort by potential of the draft class, and go down the list until it's clear guys are fictional.

You can go to Historical DB, and sort by year, but it mixes any player that played that year, so you'll run into the same player a bunch if you do it that way.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:56 PM   #680
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Pick Ametur Date in Next Patch and also how long we want Free-Agent/Staff/Personal Period to be? League Assoication so we can have combined Ametur Drafts/Postseason and so on? Also Trades happening in Draft/Top Players left on the Board for the Draft,Commentary on the picks/Rumors to Trades happening? Rumor Mill?

Has any computer control teams been sold and moved?

Also in League Editor DL has to be set to be affliated with NBA then like if somebody wanted to change bakersfield-Lakers to like Palm Springs Lakers because at the moment that field is blank under like Lakers Information.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:03 PM   #681
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HR, this is copied from my dynasty thread:

Mike Sweetney is the only guy who got rotation minutes who is a FA - a 2nd round pick, his 2 year contract ran out. We technically don't have his Bird Rights, but it's saying we can go over the cap and sign him for more than the minimum? Can anyone explain that one?

How much over the Cap can you go ? If itŽs just a little bit that could be explained by Early Bird Rights (by them you can sign a player for 175% of his last contract)

@ HR : Have you seen my post on the FBCB guys having a "0" foul rating.
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Heavy, I have either a question or probably future request for you:

I sometimes like to play a pure GM role - hire coaches and sign/trade players, but let the coach set lineups and strategy. Would different coaches set up the lineups and strategy different ways, or does the AI just look at your team and set the best recommendations?

It would be cool if each coach had their own preferences as to how they want to play. I don't think this is in the game. Is it on your list?
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Heavy, I have either a question or probably future request for you:

I sometimes like to play a pure GM role - hire coaches and sign/trade players, but let the coach set lineups and strategy. Would different coaches set up the lineups and strategy different ways, or does the AI just look at your team and set the best recommendations?

It would be cool if each coach had their own preferences as to how they want to play. I don't think this is in the game. Is it on your list?

I second this emotion. Really want to have hiring coaches be more a strategic/system based thing than just pure ratings if it's ever possible.

Sidenote to anyone: Is there an NBA coaches file anywhere? Is the college one portable to the pro game?
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The game is heavily reliant on point guards. Like, it's sort of crazy how much the AI overly values PGs.
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:29 PM   #685
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Assign Drafted Players to the Team that Drafted them?
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HR, this is copied from my dynasty thread:

Mike Sweetney is the only guy who got rotation minutes who is a FA - a 2nd round pick, his 2 year contract ran out. We technically don't have his Bird Rights, but it's saying we can go over the cap and sign him for more than the minimum? Can anyone explain that one?

Early Bird rights....you should be able to offer 175% of previous salary.
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:41 PM   #687
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Just got a RTE 9 subscript out of range, viewing a player's achievements page. He has won awards at the NBDL level, so I went to sort by NBA only and the error popped up. I can send you the file if you can't recreate.

Please send the file.
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:43 PM   #688
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@ HR : Have you seen my post on the FBCB guys having a "0" foul rating.

Yes I did. That is fixed thanks.
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:46 PM   #689
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Heavy, I have either a question or probably future request for you:

I sometimes like to play a pure GM role - hire coaches and sign/trade players, but let the coach set lineups and strategy. Would different coaches set up the lineups and strategy different ways, or does the AI just look at your team and set the best recommendations?

It would be cool if each coach had their own preferences as to how they want to play. I don't think this is in the game. Is it on your list?

It is sort of in the game but I'd have to make some changes. Each coach does have their own preferences for strategy but for human teams they aren't used at all.
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Assign Drafted Players to the Team that Drafted them?

Hoping to add that mode at some point.
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:25 PM   #691
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Yes I did. That is fixed thanks.

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Heavy, I have either a question or probably future request for you:

I sometimes like to play a pure GM role - hire coaches and sign/trade players, but let the coach set lineups and strategy. Would different coaches set up the lineups and strategy different ways, or does the AI just look at your team and set the best recommendations?

It would be cool if each coach had their own preferences as to how they want to play. I don't think this is in the game. Is it on your list?

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It is sort of in the game but I'd have to make some changes. Each coach does have their own preferences for strategy but for human teams they aren't used at all.

Count me in as one that would also like to see added. Have both fbcb and fbpb and am planning on coaching in my college game and just being GM in my NBA game.

Won't stop me from playing both if its not added but hopefully it wouldn't be hard thing to add a check box to let a human player choose to use the cpu coach's preferences.
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:27 PM   #693
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Count me in as one that would also like to see added. Have both fbcb and fbpb and am planning on coaching in my college game and just being GM in my NBA game.

Won't stop me from playing both if its not added but hopefully it wouldn't be hard thing to add a check box to let a human player choose to use the cpu coach's preferences.

Yeah me too. Would be nice to have a summary of a coaches strategy on the coach card too, so we could select a guy based on the strength's of our roster.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:32 AM   #695
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So what kind of interest is there in starting up a MP fictional league starting from a creation draft?
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I'd be game.
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Thanks that works
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So what kind of interest is there in starting up a MP fictional league starting from a creation draft?

Interested.
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Yeah I'd be down.
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