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Chief Rum · 09-14-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Also, you didn't answer about scanning, I mean eavesdropping on, Chief Rum. I ask because, frankly, that's who I think is coaching you.

You'll be surprised by this, then, because I just can't buy all this back and forth and story changing and wordplay. And really, the reveal hours before night deadlien stinks to me.

VOTE DARTH VILIUS

FWIW, Pass, were it not for both seers vouching for you, I would still be on you. You have been weird all game, not your usual self.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

i meant why would i tell the wolves who im eavesdropping on. what is the point of that? and this is what my role says as per the rules:

Gossip Queen: You hear and see everything. once per night you may eavesdrop on a player to discover their allegiance.

I don't see the point in NOT doing it. And yeah, I've already quoted what it says about your role in the rules.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

You'll be surprised by this, then, because I just can't buy all this back and forth and story changing and wordplay. And really, the reveal hours before night deadlien stinks to me.

VOTE DARTH VILIUS

FWIW, Pass, were it not for both seers vouching for you, I would still be on you. You have been weird all game, not your usual self.

Really? I didn't think I had a usual self. What's been different about me?

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Really? I didn't think I had a usual self. What's been different about me?

you do have a usual self, and this is you. that being said, after lathum pmed me that you came back as a student, I had to ask and make sure :P

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

you do have a usual self, and this is you. that being said, after lathum pmed me that you came back as a student, I had to ask and make sure :P

Seriously? I felt like I was getting some heat for 'acting weird' but pretty much like you said, I thought that was standard fare for me. And I wasn't sure what I was doing that seemed like anything that would help the wolves. But I'm really curious.

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Seriously? I felt like I was getting some heat for 'acting weird' but pretty much like you said, I thought that was standard fare for me. And I wasn't sure what I was doing that seemed like anything that would help the wolves. But I'm really curious.

ur just being pass. youve taken over for Alan T as the WW Belligerent :P

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 02:08 PM

but dont worry, we love you for it!

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

If LSG is the outcast, this game's over. Think about it.

Not yet bro. here is the scenario assuming there are 3 wolves:

there are nine people left. 3 wolves and 6 villagers (including the outcast)
even if the outcast votes with the wolves it's still 4 to 5. we can win if all the villagers vote to lynch the same person. that being said every villager (who is good) vote for the same person to lynch. we still stand a chance that way. LSG can't change any votes or lynches, that was the prom committee head, not the outcast kid. and that was hoopsguy.

Please, if the villagers want to win they'll vote this way. it's our only chance. and im not sure bout Chief Rum now, he's smart and he knows this game. I think he might be a wolf. I'll know for sure tonight if u guys on't lynch me. so everyone vote Lorena. if im lynched and we lose another villager tonight it's all over. do the math, that's two villagers down leaving 7 people with 3 wolves, 3 villagers, and 1 villager helping the wolves. she counts as a vote for them but counts for us in the 1:1 ratio. Trust me, it's our last stand.

Chief Rum · 09-14-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Really? I didn't think I had a usual self. What's been different about me?

Too many hit and run votes, not enough explanation, really. And you have been giving me an off vibe this game, be it tone or whatever.

Regardless of the reason, you're a villager (everyone seems to think so), so good enough for me.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

ur just being pass. youve taken over for Alan T as the WW Belligerent :P

Maybe that's why CR thought I was being weird? I haven't been belligerent all game. Is there some expectation that I should be, and since I haven't been this game, people think I'm acting weird?

Telle · 09-14-2009, 02:11 PM

Votes as of post #459:

3 - Lorena - Lerriuqs (363), Telle (373), Darth (394)
3 - Darth - clap (365), Pass (416), Chief Rum (451)

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Not yet bro. here is the scenario assuming there are 3 wolves:

there are nine people left. 3 wolves and 6 villagers (including the outcast)
even if the outcast votes with the wolves it's still 4 to 5. we can win if all the villagers vote to lynch the same person. that being said every villager (who is good) vote for the same person to lynch. we still stand a chance that way. LSG can't change any votes or lynches, that was the prom committee head, not the outcast kid. and that was hoopsguy.

Please, if the villagers want to win they'll vote this way. it's our only chance. and im not sure bout Chief Rum now, he's smart and he knows this game. I think he might be a wolf. I'll know for sure tonight if u guys on't lynch me. so everyone vote Lorena. if im lynched and we lose another villager tonight it's all over. do the math, that's two villagers down leaving 7 people with 3 wolves, 3 villagers, and 1 villager helping the wolves. she counts as a vote for them but counts for us in the 1:1 ratio. Trust me, it's our last stand.

Darth, from the rules:

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The Prom King/ Queen is a powerful role. They will be able to duke one time. They also can't be night killed.

FYI, duke is the typical name of the role of someone who can change the outcome of a vote once per game.

Chief Rum · 09-14-2009, 02:13 PM

No, DV, I think lerriuqs is right IF you're right.

You're saying LSG is the Outcast. Well, per the rules, the prom king/queen has a duke ability. If you're right about LSG, then she can duke the lynch to whoever she wishes, which would be a villager, and then the wolves night kill another villager.

That would be 3 wolves, one outcast, and three villagers left. The outcast votes with the wolves, and we're done.

So I hope you're actually a wolf and wrong, because if you're not a wolf, and LSG is the outcast, we're dust.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Too many hit and run votes, not enough explanation, really. And you have been giving me an off vibe this game, be it tone or whatever.

Regardless of the reason, you're a villager (everyone seems to think so), so good enough for me.

Don't several folks give hit and run votes with not much explanation? But yes -- I am good -- just curious about why you were suspicious.

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Darth, from the rules:

FYI, duke is the typical name of the role of someone who can change the outcome of a vote once per game.

oh yeah, i forgot about that. Ok it's over, the wolves have won. Too bad, I thought we had a chance.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:16 PM

Damn. That sucks.

Chief Rum · 09-14-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Maybe that's why CR thought I was being weird? I haven't been belligerent all game. Is there some expectation that I should be, and since I haven't been this game, people think I'm acting weird?

Actually, I don't share that view. I don't see you as belligerent at all. You read like Barkeep to me. Sometimes you get in a huff, like we all do, but you by and large keep your cool, and stay rational. And I haven't thought you were belligerent in this game either.

No, my off vibe is that your style seems different in this game, the tone is off, the votes not well explained, if at all. Attitude-wise, you have been about what I have expected.

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

oh yeah, i forgot about that. Ok it's over, the wolves have won. Too bad, I thought we had a chance.

Drth dont give up, your fake reveal is livening up the day!

Chief Rum · 09-14-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Don't several folks give hit and run votes with not much explanation? But yes -- I am good -- just curious about why you were suspicious.

Sure, and I give them crap for it, too.

I am entirely in character with standard Chief Rum protocol.

But, yes, if DV is who he says he is, we have lost. So my vote's staying, in the hopes that he's giving us the runaround, and LSG is not the Outcast.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:19 PM

Well FTR Darth, I actually believed you, and was just trying to make the vote not a runaway and see who would join me in voting for you. I'm still not sure I get clap's argument of how Darth was sure he wouldn't get night-killed -- I mean, isn't it common sense that he would want to post his info before the night was over in case he *was* night-killed? It seems like the guy who knows he isn't going to be night-killed is the one who can afford to wait until morning.

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 02:20 PM

At least I went out swinging, I can die with my honor intact.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:21 PM

So I guess my vote will stay on Darth too, even though I do actually believe him. Unless someone steps up and has a role that can help us win this thing. Our wolves are probably Lorena, clap, and CR, so if we can get the slightest advantage, we'll probably be able to win.

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 02:23 PM

So my final guess for the wolves for what it's worth (nothing really) is thus:

Lorena, Clap, and Rum.

I was thinking J23 instead but now I have no clue. It's one of them.

lerriuqs · 09-14-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Well FTR Darth, I actually believed you, and was just trying to make the vote not a runaway and see who would join me in voting for you. I'm still not sure I get clap's argument of how Darth was sure he wouldn't get night-killed -- I mean, isn't it common sense that he would want to post his info before the night was over in case he *was* night-killed? It seems like the guy who knows he isn't going to be night-killed is the one who can afford to wait until morning.

I don't think it matters when Darth reveals - he could have done it sooner in the day and they still don't kill him. Regardless of timing, this game was over if he's the seer.

Assuming Darth is correct (and yes I believe him), he needed to speak up after night 2, we'd still have a shot now if he had.

lerriuqs · 09-14-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

So my final guess for the wolves for what it's worth (nothing really) is thus:

Lorena, Clap, and Rum.

I was thinking J23 instead but now I have no clue. It's one of them.

Could very well be Rum, I couldn't get a read on him one way or the other in this game. Which, now that I think about it, probably means he's a wolf.

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 02:34 PM

Dont give up! whats wrong with you people! this is what he wants! (or maybe it just works for him) LSG IS on the student side, and Darth is NOT the seer! as long as we lynch him we should be ok!

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 02:34 PM

don't put this all on me boy,i wasn't the one who lynched a villager on day1. or whenever he got lynched. and i didn't vote LSG Prom Queen either. if everyone had stuck to the plan and voted u Prom King we'd still be fine. Voting her Prom Queen was the first nail in the coffin. It was obvious what the wolves would try to do. i can't win this game by myself afterall.

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

I don't think it matters when Darth reveals - he could have done it sooner in the day and they still don't kill him. Regardless of timing, this game was over if he's the seer.

Assuming Darth is correct (and yes I believe him), he needed to speak up after night 2, we'd still have a shot now if he had.

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

Dont give up! whats wrong with you people! this is what he wants! (or maybe it just works for him) LSG IS on the student side, and Darth is NOT the seer! as long as we lynch him we should be ok!

Regardless of my role next game clap is going down

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 02:37 PM

well, i always a decent day one lynch

lerriuqs · 09-14-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

don't put this all on me boy,i wasn't the one who lynched a villager on day1. or whenever he got lynched. and i didn't vote LSG Prom Queen either. if everyone had stuck to the plan and voted u Prom King we'd still be fine. Voting her Prom Queen was the first nail in the coffin. It was obvious what the wolves would try to do. i can't win this game by myself afterall.

I'm not putting it all on you, but if you pick off a wolf and the outcast who has duking powers in a small game in the first two days, you need to come out with that info right away.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

Dont give up! whats wrong with you people! this is what he wants! (or maybe it just works for him) LSG IS on the student side, and Darth is NOT the seer! as long as we lynch him we should be ok!

Um, I think it's the people *believing* Darth that are giving up...not the people believing you.

Chief Rum · 09-14-2009, 02:42 PM

Everyone always says they can't get a read on me. Whether I'm a wolf or a villager.

If this game was over, why would we be doing this now? Wouldn't Lathum just end the game? There must be a chance for the villagers to win.

We can say from connecting the dots that if LSG is the Outcast, this game is over. This game is NOT over. Ergo, LSG is NOT the Outcast.

And if LSG is not the Outcast, DV is lying.

It's also the only way this game keeps going. From my perspective, I don't know that we have another choice.

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

I'm not putting it all on you, but if you pick off a wolf and the outcast who has duking powers in a small game in the first two days, you need to come out with that info right away.

the outcast didn't have duking powers until day 3. and it was a slip of the mind, i'll admit. all the evidence was in front of e, i justa didn't see it right away. The LSG date switch was very telling, we shoulda all picked up on her and clap. Switching after finding out your role, seriously. But you live and learn. I'll be much harder to beat in the future.

J23 · 09-14-2009, 02:43 PM

Vote Lorena

If LSG isn't a wolf, then she can duke it onto Darth, correct?

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Everyone always says they can't get a read on me. Whether I'm a wolf or a villager.

If this game was over, why would we be doing this now? Wouldn't Lathum just end the game? There must be a chance for the villagers to win.

We can say from connecting the dots that if LSG is the Outcast, this game is over. This game is NOT over. Ergo, LSG is NOT the Outcast.

And if LSG is not the Outcast, DV is lying.

It's also the only way this game keeps going. From my perspective, I don't know that we have another choice.

Lathum may not have realized it, plus I haven't seen him around since any of this started.

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 02:44 PM

and the game won't be over until the wolves have actually achieved their 1:1 ratio Chie as you very well kknow. it will be over by tomorrow.

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

and the game won't be over until the wolves have actually achieved their 1:1 ratio Chie as you very well kknow. it will be over by tomorrow.

*Chief* and if i was a wolf i would come out and claim my victory. Even if they all revealed LSG will change the lynch vote so why not?

lerriuqs · 09-14-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Everyone always says they can't get a read on me. Whether I'm a wolf or a villager.

If this game was over, why would we be doing this now? Wouldn't Lathum just end the game? There must be a chance for the villagers to win.

We can say from connecting the dots that if LSG is the Outcast, this game is over. This game is NOT over. Ergo, LSG is NOT the Outcast.

And if LSG is not the Outcast, DV is lying.

It's also the only way this game keeps going. From my perspective, I don't know that we have another choice.

I've felt reasonably certain in other games when you were a villager...

As for your rationale, I see no other choice. Sorry Darth, it's not that I don't believe you, but the game's already over if I do.

UNVOTE Lorena

Vote Darth Vilius

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

I've felt reasonably certain in other games when you were a villager...

As for your rationale, I see no other choice. Sorry Darth, it's not that I don't believe you, but the game's already over if I do.

UNVOTE Lorena

Vote Darth Vilius

It's fine, one way or another it's over. But mark my words,

THE DARK WORLD WILL RETURN, TERRIFYING AND MORE TERRIBLE THAN HE EVER WAS BEFORE

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

It's fine, one way or another it's over. But mark my words,

THE DARK WORLD WILL RETURN, TERRIFYING AND MORE TERRIBLE THAN HE EVER WAS BEFORE

I love statements like these. By the way, it was fun ruffling your feathers -- too bad it was all in vain.

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I love statements like these. By the way, it was fun ruffling your feathers -- too bad it was all in vain.

Yup yup, it's all good. so assuming (but not really) the game ends tomorrow anyone have an idea of when the next one will start. They're fun even when you lose, though i suppose that's how good games are supposed to be

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 03:06 PM

I think I'm up next -- I'll post sign-ups tomorrow probably, with a start date depending on what happens with this game.

Darth Vilus · 09-14-2009, 03:12 PM

how do u guys determine the order?

Schmidty · 09-14-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

i was gonna mourn you! but you dont love me......

Aw clap, of course I do. Just in a platonic way.

Passacaglia · 09-14-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

how do u guys determine the order?

There's a thread where people sign up to GM stickied in this forum.

Lorena · 09-14-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Aw clap, of course I do. Just in a platonic way.

I mourned you too, you were my date! The only person that asked me out, even though you wanted it to be a secret, but still.

When all is said and done, I'm gonna have to go Carrie on the bastages that killed you!

Lorena · 09-14-2009, 04:01 PM

Vote Darth Vilus

Self preservation, obviously.

J23 · 09-14-2009, 04:05 PM

UNVOTE Lorena

Vote Darth Vilius

Guess there's no point otherwise.

claphamsa · 09-14-2009, 04:43 PM

vote nightfall!

lerriuqs · 09-14-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorena

I mourned you too, you were my date! The only person that asked me out, even though you wanted it to be a secret, but still.

When all is said and done, I'm gonna have to go Carrie on the bastages that killed you!

You mean...YOU?

09-14-2009, 02:08 PM	#457
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	but dont worry, we love you for it! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

09-14-2009, 02:13 PM	#463
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	No, DV, I think lerriuqs is right IF you're right. You're saying LSG is the Outcast. Well, per the rules, the prom king/queen has a duke ability. If you're right about LSG, then she can duke the lynch to whoever she wishes, which would be a villager, and then the wolves night kill another villager. That would be 3 wolves, one outcast, and three villagers left. The outcast votes with the wolves, and we're done. So I hope you're actually a wolf and wrong, because if you're not a wolf, and LSG is the outcast, we're dust. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-14-2009, 02:34 PM	#476
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Dont give up! whats wrong with you people! this is what he wants! (or maybe it just works for him) LSG IS on the student side, and Darth is NOT the seer! as long as we lynch him we should be ok! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

09-14-2009, 02:37 PM	#479
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	well, i always a decent day one lynch __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

09-14-2009, 02:42 PM	#482
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Everyone always says they can't get a read on me. Whether I'm a wolf or a villager. If this game was over, why would we be doing this now? Wouldn't Lathum just end the game? There must be a chance for the villagers to win. We can say from connecting the dots that if LSG is the Outcast, this game is over. This game is NOT over. Ergo, LSG is NOT the Outcast. And if LSG is not the Outcast, DV is lying. It's also the only way this game keeps going. From my perspective, I don't know that we have another choice. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-14-2009, 02:11 PM	#461
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Votes as of post #459: 3 - Lorena - Lerriuqs (363), Telle (373), Darth (394) 3 - Darth - clap (365), Pass (416), Chief Rum (451)

09-14-2009, 02:16 PM	#466
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Damn. That sucks.

09-14-2009, 02:19 PM	#470
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Well FTR Darth, I actually believed you, and was just trying to make the vote not a runaway and see who would join me in voting for you. I'm still not sure I get clap's argument of how Darth was sure he wouldn't get night-killed -- I mean, isn't it common sense that he would want to post his info before the night was over in case he was night-killed? It seems like the guy who knows he isn't going to be night-killed is the one who can afford to wait until morning.

09-14-2009, 02:20 PM	#471
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	At least I went out swinging, I can die with my honor intact.

09-14-2009, 02:21 PM	#472
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	So I guess my vote will stay on Darth too, even though I do actually believe him. Unless someone steps up and has a role that can help us win this thing. Our wolves are probably Lorena, clap, and CR, so if we can get the slightest advantage, we'll probably be able to win.

09-14-2009, 02:23 PM	#473
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	So my final guess for the wolves for what it's worth (nothing really) is thus: Lorena, Clap, and Rum. I was thinking J23 instead but now I have no clue. It's one of them.

09-14-2009, 02:43 PM	#484
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Vote Lorena If LSG isn't a wolf, then she can duke it onto Darth, correct?

09-14-2009, 02:44 PM	#486
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	and the game won't be over until the wolves have actually achieved their 1:1 ratio Chie as you very well kknow. it will be over by tomorrow.

09-14-2009, 03:06 PM	#492
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I think I'm up next -- I'll post sign-ups tomorrow probably, with a start date depending on what happens with this game.

09-14-2009, 03:12 PM	#493
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	how do u guys determine the order?

09-14-2009, 04:01 PM	#497
Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	Vote Darth Vilus Self preservation, obviously.

09-14-2009, 04:05 PM	#498
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	UNVOTE Lorena Vote Darth Vilius Guess there's no point otherwise.

09-14-2009, 04:43 PM	#499
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	vote nightfall! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

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