WW CII Salem Witch Trials GAME OVER - VILLAGE WINS - Page 3

Schmidty · 09-30-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

This post makes no sense to me. We are told in teh first post of the thread that we know, for sur,e there are witches here. I say it would be thematic to have a Salem game with no witches at all, in order to reflect reality. What is wolfish there?

I'm voting for Abe since he has no sense of clap humor.

Vote Abe

Schmidty · 09-30-2009, 08:04 PM

Now I'm unvoting him because he apparantly got it finally.

Unvote Abe

Passacaglia · 09-30-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Vote Passacaglia

don't like his vote on Clap, seems like he is trying to put some distance there.

I definitely was trying to put some distance there.

Autumn · 09-30-2009, 08:45 PM

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The meeting of the village residents begins with a flurry of voices shouting past each other, old rivalries flaring up, accusations tossed back and forth with nary a thought. The day is only partly passed, but all know that if they don't find the witch among them by sundown, another villager will die.

Current Vote Count as of post #103

The Jackal 3 - J23, claphamsa, Kwhit
Claphamsa 2 - Passacaglia, MartinD
Passacaglia 2 - Lathum, PurdueBrad

Passacaglia · 09-30-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I definitely was trying to put some distance there.

Anyway, to keep that spirit alive:

UNVOTE CLAPHAMSA
VOTE THE JACKAL

GoldenEagle · 09-30-2009, 09:48 PM

Has anyone not checked in yet? That where is my day 1 vote is going.

Abe Sargent · 09-30-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

Everyone has checked in.

Votes as of post #79:

1 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (21)
1 - The Jackal - claphamsa (22)
3 - claphamsa - The Jackal (25), MartinD (41), Passacaglia (73)

Quoted for GE

The Jackal · 09-30-2009, 10:45 PM

Really, Pass? Alrighty.

Vote Pass

The Jackal · 09-30-2009, 10:48 PM

That's a lot of vote shifting for any day, even day 1.

I'll check back in tomorrow, but voting for me isn't going to solve anyone's problems.

The Jackal · 09-30-2009, 10:52 PM

In trying to defend myself all I can say is that I've done nothing suspicious, a run started on me because clap voted me because he was pissed people didn't lynch me right away last game and then others piled on because they didn't want it to be a runaway on clap (which I never encouraged at all).

Danny · 09-30-2009, 11:10 PM

I am off for the night, will likely be voting early in the morning before I have to leave.

J23 · 10-01-2009, 01:12 AM

to try to keep it close (again)...

unvote The Jackal

Abe Sargent · 10-01-2009, 01:38 AM

Night all

claphamsa · 10-01-2009, 06:28 AM

holly crap!

Passacaglia · 10-01-2009, 07:35 AM

Hmm. I'd forgotten that I won't be in the office today. I might be back home by deadline, but I might not -- I have no idea. Anyway, I'm going to put in my real vote now, for J23. I know we were joking around earlier, but I didn't like how he made a comment about me getting us to lynch PB. It seemed like he was setting me up to take the blame for it early. He's also unvoted The Jackal to "keep it close" when The Jackal only had a one-vote lead -- so it was already close.

UNVOTE THE JACKAL
VOTE J23

Abe Sargent · 10-01-2009, 08:13 AM

claphamsa is down to one vote, and I want to repressure him.

Placeholder, subject to change easily, since it's just a Day One vote with no info.

vote claphamsa

J23 · 10-01-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Hmm. I'd forgotten that I won't be in the office today. I might be back home by deadline, but I might not -- I have no idea. Anyway, I'm going to put in my real vote now, for J23. I know we were joking around earlier, but I didn't like how he made a comment about me getting us to lynch PB. It seemed like he was setting me up to take the blame for it early. He's also unvoted The Jackal to "keep it close" when The Jackal only had a one-vote lead -- so it was already close.

UNVOTE THE JACKAL
VOTE J23

I actually hadn't refreshed before I hit it so I missed Jackal voting on you, so I had thought it was 4-2 when I unvoted, rather than 4-3. Either way, it doesn't really matter too much to me. With nothing to go on, it's a crapshoot regardless, so I guess I shouldn't hold it against you that I think your reasoning for voting for me is so tenuous.

J23 · 10-01-2009, 08:20 AM

Someone double check me, since I've gotten this wrong in my head before

Current Vote Count as of post #117

The Jackal 2 - claphamsa, Kwhit
Claphamsa 2 - , MartinD, Abe Sargent
Passacaglia 3 - Lathum, PurdueBrad, The Jackal
J23 1 - Passacaglia

Autumn · 10-01-2009, 08:45 AM

J23, please leave the blue text to me, just so people can find my posts easily. Thanks.

That is the same vote count I have.

J23 · 10-01-2009, 08:49 AM

Sorry about that, I just cut and pasted your count from earlier and updated it. I can edit it if you like, but I know that's typically a no-no.

Autumn · 10-01-2009, 08:51 AM

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The meeting continues on, with periods of silence as the village people stare moodily at each other. Some place their vote and leave to return to their farm or work, others stay and eye the reactions of their neighbors as they vote. All hope for some sign, some certainty of who is plaguing their village.

Day one ends at 3:30 EST

Autumn · 10-01-2009, 08:52 AM

No, no need to edit, just I never put anything in the rules about it so figured I would point it out for going forward.

GoldenEagle · 10-01-2009, 08:55 AM

Even for a day 1 vote, the voting/unvoting is pretty crazy at the moment. I wonder if the wolves are attempting to create confusion down the road?

claphamsa · 10-01-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

claphamsa is down to one vote, and I want to repressure him.

Placeholder, subject to change easily, since it's just a Day One vote with no info.

vote claphamsa

why do you want to pressure me?

claphamsa · 10-01-2009, 09:41 AM

unvote jackyl

vote abe

your making no sense

claphamsa · 10-01-2009, 11:19 AM

no one is here.....

claphamsa · 10-01-2009, 11:20 AM

ah hell! just in case im not around...

unvote abe
vote pass!

Danny · 10-01-2009, 11:25 AM

Will have to vote here in the next 15 or so before I leave and will likely be out for deadline.

PurdueBrad · 10-01-2009, 11:27 AM

Crazy day at work thus far, but I'm checking in and out most of the day. No real reason for me to move my vote since it is day 1 but I will be watching which way the later votes swing things.

Danny · 10-01-2009, 11:28 AM

Vote Claphamsa

For me the decision was between Clap and the Jackal out of the current candidates as I'd rather tie the vote up than make it a 4-2 race.

The Jackal · 10-01-2009, 11:30 AM

You made it 4-3, I believe. I only have 1.

Danny · 10-01-2009, 11:33 AM

Well then I definitely stand by my vote then. I don't see Pass' actions as suspicious as others. He could very well be a wolf, but I don't think anything he has done has indicated that over someone else. And we definitely want a close vote for the records.

The Jackal · 10-01-2009, 11:34 AM

It's less that he's done anything suspicious and more that he's actually done something. All that vote moving stands out just because there's been very little other activity. I would generally say a wolf wouldn't draw attention to himself like that on day 1, but I'm not sure with Pass.

Lathum · 10-01-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Vote Claphamsa

For me the decision was between Clap and the Jackal out of the current candidates as I'd rather tie the vote up than make it a 4-2 race.

hmm, so not only is Danny wrong about the vote count, he thinks he is creating a tie with Jackal, who actually has only 1 vote when it actually is PAssacaglia on the line with Clap.

For some reason this reeks to me, seems like Danny is going for Clap, who is always an easy target while leaving Pass out of the picture, despite Pass actually being the leading vote getter.

The Jackal · 10-01-2009, 11:35 AM

Asking for PM info isn't a point in his good column, though.

Lathum · 10-01-2009, 11:37 AM

Well I am off, I honestly don't feel great about my vote but for now will leave it and look closer at Danny tomorrow.

Telle · 10-01-2009, 11:38 AM

vote The Jackal

I don't like how votes have moved away from him, and I have no problems with having a three-person race.

The Jackal · 10-01-2009, 11:39 AM

Very strange, Telle. There's good reason why votes moved away from me. Up on my suspicion meter, for sure.

Danny · 10-01-2009, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

hmm, so not only is Danny wrong about the vote count, he thinks he is creating a tie with Jackal, who actually has only 1 vote when it actually is PAssacaglia on the line with Clap.

For some reason this reeks to me, seems like Danny is going for Clap, who is always an easy target while leaving Pass out of the picture, despite Pass actually being the leading vote getter.

Uh no, I was going by the most recent post that had a vote count where it was 3 for Pass and 2 a piece for Clap and the Jackal. I didn't realize Clap unvoted Jackal. So my decision was to tie the vote up and at that point choose between Clap and The Jackal. I was not going to make a vote which caused a two point separation

But it looks like you are trying to cause some suspicion of me when I am not in the conversation knowing I said I need to leave. You're not exactly on my trust list either which makes me feel a little better about Pass, at least until we know more.

Telle · 10-01-2009, 11:40 AM

Votes as of post #137:

4 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (21), Lathum (95), The Jackal (108), claphamsa (127)
2 - The Jackal - KWhit (82), Telle (137)
3 - claphamsa - MartinD (41), Abe Sargent (115), Danny (130)
1 - J23 - Passacaglia (115)

Yet to vote: GoldenEagle, Lerriuqs, Darth Vilus, Schmidty

Danny · 10-01-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

hmm, so not only is Danny wrong about the vote count, he thinks he is creating a tie with Jackal, who actually has only 1 vote when it actually is PAssacaglia on the line with Clap.

For some reason this reeks to me, seems like Danny is going for Clap, who is always an easy target while leaving Pass out of the picture, despite Pass actually being the leading vote getter.

Oh and please reread the post you quoted. I said I wanted to create a tie, so because of that, my options were the Jackal or Clap as I thought either of those candidates would create a tie with Pass.

Telle · 10-01-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Very strange, Telle. There's good reason why votes moved away from me. Up on my suspicion meter, for sure.

It's Day 1.. you're not more trusted than anyone else, so it looks suspicious to me when votes move like that. First I was going to go for Clap since votes disappeared from him, but then they started piling up again. And I don't want to put Pass too far out in front, as you get better vote analysis when things stay close.

The Jackal · 10-01-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telle

It's Day 1.. you're not more trusted than anyone else, so it looks suspicious to me when votes move like that. First I was going to go for Clap since votes disappeared from him, but then they started piling up again. And I don't want to put Pass too far out in front, as you get better vote analysis when things stay close.

Well, clap unvoted me because he'd voted me for last-game purposes anyways. And Pass unvoted me because, well, he's voted/unvoted about 3 people - so, what looks suspicious about that? It's not like it was late movement trying to save me, or something. And I'm not suggesting a runaway on Pass, just a curious vote.

The Jackal · 10-01-2009, 11:48 AM

Part of the reason I'm talking to you about this is that I may be out for the deadline at lunch, not sure what time exactly I'll be getting back, and I'd like to talk to the people that are voting for me.

Telle · 10-01-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Well, clap unvoted me because he'd voted me for last-game purposes anyways. And Pass unvoted me because, well, he's voted/unvoted about 3 people - so, what looks suspicious about that? It's not like it was late movement trying to save me, or something. And I'm not suggesting a runaway on Pass, just a curious vote.

I honestly didn't analyze who unvoted and for what reason.. just saw the votes go up and then go down in my chart, and that caught my eye. And being Day 1 with little reason to vote anywhere in particular, that felt like a good enough reason to keep you in the running.

The Jackal · 10-01-2009, 11:50 AM

Right, you didn't look at reasonings. That's why I'm talking to you - if you don't have time, it's one thing, but basing things just on what's happened in the vote count isn't always useful.

But a 3 way vote leaves much more room for vote manipulation.

Telle · 10-01-2009, 11:52 AM

But a 3-way also gives you a better chance of having one of them being a wolf, which can help in future vote analysis.

The Jackal · 10-01-2009, 11:54 AM

And so you decided I'd be better than J just because there were useless votes on me before?

Danny · 10-01-2009, 11:56 AM

Alright well I am out until after deadline most likely

Telle · 10-01-2009, 11:57 AM

Yeah I saw it as a choice between you, Pass, and clap. Maybe the vote movement meant nothing.. but it's something that caught my eye. And seeing as how it's Day 1 and I have no stronger reason right now to put my vote anywhere else, I see no reason to move it right now.

09-30-2009, 08:04 PM	#102
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Now I'm unvoting him because he apparantly got it finally. Unvote Abe __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

09-30-2009, 09:48 PM	#106
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Has anyone not checked in yet? That where is my day 1 vote is going. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

10-01-2009, 01:38 AM	#113
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Night all __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-01-2009, 06:28 AM	#114
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	holly crap! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

10-01-2009, 08:13 AM	#116
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	claphamsa is down to one vote, and I want to repressure him. Placeholder, subject to change easily, since it's just a Day One vote with no info. vote claphamsa __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

09-30-2009, 10:45 PM	#108
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Really, Pass? Alrighty. Vote Pass

09-30-2009, 10:48 PM	#109
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	That's a lot of vote shifting for any day, even day 1. I'll check back in tomorrow, but voting for me isn't going to solve anyone's problems.

09-30-2009, 10:52 PM	#110
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	In trying to defend myself all I can say is that I've done nothing suspicious, a run started on me because clap voted me because he was pissed people didn't lynch me right away last game and then others piled on because they didn't want it to be a runaway on clap (which I never encouraged at all).

09-30-2009, 11:10 PM	#111
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I am off for the night, will likely be voting early in the morning before I have to leave.

10-01-2009, 01:12 AM	#112
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	to try to keep it close (again)... unvote The Jackal

10-01-2009, 07:35 AM	#115
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Hmm. I'd forgotten that I won't be in the office today. I might be back home by deadline, but I might not -- I have no idea. Anyway, I'm going to put in my real vote now, for J23. I know we were joking around earlier, but I didn't like how he made a comment about me getting us to lynch PB. It seemed like he was setting me up to take the blame for it early. He's also unvoted The Jackal to "keep it close" when The Jackal only had a one-vote lead -- so it was already close. UNVOTE THE JACKAL VOTE J23

10-01-2009, 08:20 AM	#118
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Someone double check me, since I've gotten this wrong in my head before Current Vote Count as of post #117 The Jackal 2 - claphamsa, Kwhit Claphamsa 2 - , MartinD, Abe Sargent Passacaglia 3 - Lathum, PurdueBrad, The Jackal J23 1 - Passacaglia

10-01-2009, 08:45 AM	#119
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	J23, please leave the blue text to me, just so people can find my posts easily. Thanks. That is the same vote count I have.

10-01-2009, 08:49 AM	#120
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Sorry about that, I just cut and pasted your count from earlier and updated it. I can edit it if you like, but I know that's typically a no-no.

10-01-2009, 08:52 AM	#122
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	No, no need to edit, just I never put anything in the rules about it so figured I would point it out for going forward.

10-01-2009, 08:55 AM	#123
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Even for a day 1 vote, the voting/unvoting is pretty crazy at the moment. I wonder if the wolves are attempting to create confusion down the road? __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

10-01-2009, 09:41 AM	#125
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	unvote jackyl vote abe your making no sense __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

10-01-2009, 11:19 AM	#126
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	no one is here..... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

10-01-2009, 11:20 AM	#127
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	ah hell! just in case im not around... unvote abe vote pass! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

10-01-2009, 11:25 AM	#128
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Will have to vote here in the next 15 or so before I leave and will likely be out for deadline.

10-01-2009, 11:27 AM	#129
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Crazy day at work thus far, but I'm checking in and out most of the day. No real reason for me to move my vote since it is day 1 but I will be watching which way the later votes swing things.

10-01-2009, 11:28 AM	#130
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Vote Claphamsa For me the decision was between Clap and the Jackal out of the current candidates as I'd rather tie the vote up than make it a 4-2 race.

10-01-2009, 11:30 AM	#131
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	You made it 4-3, I believe. I only have 1.

10-01-2009, 11:33 AM	#132
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Well then I definitely stand by my vote then. I don't see Pass' actions as suspicious as others. He could very well be a wolf, but I don't think anything he has done has indicated that over someone else. And we definitely want a close vote for the records.

10-01-2009, 11:34 AM	#133
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	It's less that he's done anything suspicious and more that he's actually done something. All that vote moving stands out just because there's been very little other activity. I would generally say a wolf wouldn't draw attention to himself like that on day 1, but I'm not sure with Pass.

10-01-2009, 11:35 AM	#135
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Asking for PM info isn't a point in his good column, though.

10-01-2009, 11:37 AM	#136
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Well I am off, I honestly don't feel great about my vote but for now will leave it and look closer at Danny tomorrow.

10-01-2009, 11:38 AM	#137
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	vote The Jackal I don't like how votes have moved away from him, and I have no problems with having a three-person race.

10-01-2009, 11:39 AM	#138
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Very strange, Telle. There's good reason why votes moved away from me. Up on my suspicion meter, for sure.

10-01-2009, 11:40 AM	#140
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Votes as of post #137: 4 - Passacaglia - PurdueBrad (21), Lathum (95), The Jackal (108), claphamsa (127) 2 - The Jackal - KWhit (82), Telle (137) 3 - claphamsa - MartinD (41), Abe Sargent (115), Danny (130) 1 - J23 - Passacaglia (115) Yet to vote: GoldenEagle, Lerriuqs, Darth Vilus, Schmidty

10-01-2009, 11:48 AM	#144
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Part of the reason I'm talking to you about this is that I may be out for the deadline at lunch, not sure what time exactly I'll be getting back, and I'd like to talk to the people that are voting for me.

10-01-2009, 11:50 AM	#146
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Right, you didn't look at reasonings. That's why I'm talking to you - if you don't have time, it's one thing, but basing things just on what's happened in the vote count isn't always useful. But a 3 way vote leaves much more room for vote manipulation.

10-01-2009, 11:52 AM	#147
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	But a 3-way also gives you a better chance of having one of them being a wolf, which can help in future vote analysis.

10-01-2009, 11:54 AM	#148
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	And so you decided I'd be better than J just because there were useless votes on me before?

10-01-2009, 11:56 AM	#149
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Alright well I am out until after deadline most likely