Werewolf XXI - Werewolf goes to Hollywood - Game Over!! Death Eaters win!!

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

And whats funny is every person who has died in the past few days thinks everyone else is a moron...when they were right there lynching villagers

I was just trying to be funny with my comment. The wizards still have a good chance to wn IMO. You on the other hand seem to believe that you could win this game by yourself.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Don't look at me. I nailed two Death Eaters in two days.

Yeah, and you were also convinced I was a bad guy, so nobody's perfect.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Goddamn, this ain't looking good...

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[Mr. Wednesday]

Er, sorry 'bout that, I replied to Neon's kibbitzing before I saw saldana's cease and desist.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Yeah, and you were also convinced I was a bad guy, so nobody's perfect.

Yep. But as it is, I'm 2 of 2... so there.

[Desnudo]

Seriously Neon, grow up a little and show some respect for others.

[Desnudo]

dola, referring to the roll eyes comment.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Worst. Werewolf. Players. Ever.

Class is something you don't possess, and I am embarrassed that I ever played in one of your games. I would say more but I don't want to stoop to your level. You are just making yourself look extremely bad.

This game has made me sad about WW in more ways than one.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

You really need to just stay out of thread. You ran a game of WW? I was in it?

Ouch. I really wonder about certain things.

By the way, how old are you? Just curious.

[Coder]

Bla..

[Coder]

If there's anything I've learned since the weekend it's that voting patterns are useless to go by as well..

[Lathum]

boo

[Coder]

Without knowing from other games, I'm guessing that one of the hard parts about this game is the amount of players.. what's the usual good guy/bad guy ratio?

[Coder]

Lessons learned:

Be less active
Don't try to help
Be less verbose in explaining your votes

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Lathum

boo

LOL, the ghost game. That was awesome.

[Coder]

I'm going to be away from my computer most of the day and evening Swedish time, but I'm pretty sure I won't be killed tonight. Wasting an assassination on me would be useless since I'm the top candidate for a lynching.

I'm still shocked I wasn't lynched yesterday.. I should have voted for Ardent and have all this over and done with.

Just promise me this, if the playing field is still open after I'm dead (i.e. the ratio is not 1:1 yet), vote for Ardent. Knowing that I'm innocent would at least make it obvious that he's a deatheater.. like I said yesterday, he's been overdoing his accusations lately. Had he stopped at "..and this is my evidence" and just made that long post, he would have been a sure bet in my eyes as a wizard. But the way he's been playing it, he's acted way too sure lately, sort of "driving home the point".

[Neon_Chaos]

I know that we might share different takes on how WW should be played but after running several games I've always held that if you're going to play WW, you're going to have to be ready to be insulted in whatever way shape or form by anyone. There is no place for sensitivity in the game. You have to have pretty thick skin.

As long as whatever is said in the game by the dead players do not compromise the integrity of the game rules / technical stuff / roles then I don't see why it can't be said. It's Werewolf, and out-and-out ribbing and insulting is fair game. Of course whatever is said/done in WW should not go beyond the confines of the thread. My Worst. Werewolf. Players. Ever. comment was most probably accurately put... save for my very first WW game ever (when I managed to lynch about 6 fellow Villagers in dumbass fashion. Ha). If anyone ribbed or poked fun at me during that time, I wouldn't feel insulted, heck, I'd probably agree .

I'm sad that you feel like I'm being a complete ass (which, in retrospect, I probably was)... but I want you to know that it's all just in the context of the game, and not how I'd feel or act outside it.
When I ran my WW games, I allowed pretty much anything to be said... AS LONG as it didn't compromise the game itself. That's why I get pretty mad when in-game technicalities are blurted out by dead people in the midst of heated arguments. That's a big WW no-no.

I'd like to apologize to the guys who were offended, if you feel that you're ashamed of whatever I've posted, but in no way have I compromised the game by doing any role reveals or putting in any additional information that I have acquired after my WW death. All my ribbings and side-comments are done in good fun (and frustration).

That said, and in light of Saldana's request, I'll be doing the rest of my talking when this game is over.

GO WIZARDS!

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

I was just trying to be funny with my comment. The wizards still have a good chance to wn IMO. You on the other hand seem to believe that you could win this game by yourself.

Far from it, but i think i would have a far different approach during the past few days that may or may not have affected things...its easy to say when dead you would do differently, but i know a few things i would have seen regardless. Either way its a team effort, no one can win a game alone(besides duke i guess).

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I know that we might share different takes on how WW should be played but after running several games I've always held that if you're going to play WW, you're going to have to be ready to be insulted in whatever way shape or form by anyone. There is no place for sensitivity in the game. You have to have pretty thick skin.

As long as whatever is said in the game by the dead players do not compromise the integrity of the game rules / technical stuff / roles then I don't see why it can't be said. It's Werewolf, and out-and-out ribbing and insulting is fair game. Of course whatever is said/done in WW should not go beyond the confines of the thread. My Worst. Werewolf. Players. Ever. comment was most probably accurately put... save for my very first WW game ever (when I managed to lynch about 6 fellow Villagers in dumbass fashion. Ha). If anyone ribbed or poked fun at me during that time, I wouldn't feel insulted, heck, I'd probably agree .

I'm sad that you feel like I'm being a complete ass (which, in retrospect, I probably was)... but I want you to know that it's all just in the context of the game, and not how I'd feel or act outside it.
When I ran my WW games, I allowed pretty much anything to be said... AS LONG as it didn't compromise the game itself. That's why I get pretty mad when in-game technicalities are blurted out by dead people in the midst of heated arguments. That's a big WW no-no.

I'd like to apologize to the guys who were offended, if you feel that you're ashamed of whatever I've posted, but in no way have I compromised the game by doing any role reveals or putting in any additional information that I have acquired after my WW death. All my ribbings and side-comments are done in good fun (and frustration).

That said, and in light of Saldana's request, I'll be doing the rest of my talking when this game is over.

GO WIZARDS!

Id have to echo all of this...i know for a fact my first 5-6 games no one liked me or my play style, i single handily lost a few games for us i think, and was known as "wolves best friend". I took these jibes, all light hearted...thats all we have done here...i know even king who is fed up with them was not to kind to me back then...nothing more then play, but i too will step down

[Blade6119]

And i will say neons "worst players ever" comment may have been to harsh to publicly, and for that i apologize on his behalf and my own if my comments offended anyone...just a game, and i was merely playing around. If anyone took it seriously(which i know one did after posts in another thread), i apologize

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Coder

If there's anything I've learned since the weekend it's that voting patterns are useless to go by as well..

Generally they are a wonderful tool, and really could have been in this game at a certain time...unfortunately after talking about said topic for so long the wolves have obviously done everything in their power to manipulate the results we all see everyday. Sadly, it has worked so far, but the game isnt over so lets hope

[Coder]

Have a few minutes and naturally I can't help myself from looking in the thread.. this is fun, even though right now it's very frustrating. I was quite disheartened about my game so far until I read Neon's post about his first game which made me feel better .

As far as the jibes etc go.. I definately think that dead people should refrain from making comments about how poor the others are. However, I'm all for the ones still alive being allowed to say pretty much anything.

Take this thing that Ardent is doing for example, maybe a few days ago I would have taken it another way.. but I think that Schmidty said it best in his own post when talking about his and Dubb's little argument.

"That's why it seems like a desperate ploy. A rude one, but still a ploy."

I'm taking every little personal insult from a live player to be an attempt to rattle me. I am not taking it to be a personal attack on anyone but my wizard (i.e. not myself)

[Grammaticus]

Generally following is what I have. The trusted is based on actions taken and critical info provided that hurt the DE. The least is based on attempts to confuse and place votes that are not strongly supported by any reason presented in the posts. Of course there is also, what I think may be a lie by Coder.

Most Trusted
Desnudo
Dubb
Pass
Superman

Least Trusted
RA
Coder
RPI
Taz
WVU
AE
Jeeber
Jesse

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Coder

If there's anything I've learned since the weekend it's that voting patterns are useless to go by as well..

They wouldn't be if 1) they had some thought behind them instead of picking at random and 2) there weren't so many to choose from.

[Raiders Army]

VOTE PASSACAGLIA

[Coder]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

They wouldn't be if 1) they had some thought behind them instead of picking at random and 2) there weren't so many to choose from.

The thing is, one could spin a yarn around any voting pattern. I bet I could take any of the votes made up until now and analyze each one and make the voter look like a deatheater.

[Coder]

You're always early Raiders They haven't killed anyone yet.

[Coder]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Of course there is also, what I think may be a lie by Coder.

I don't blame you.

Strangely enough, my list would be:

Most Trusted
Desnudo
Gram

Least Trusted
Dubb
Ardent

Drawing complete blank but everyone's a suspect
Everyone else

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Coder

You're always early Raiders They haven't killed anyone yet.

Well, I'm trying to get a DE. Didn't go for dubb since he seems to be on the level (which is different from what I thought yesterday). I really think that the DEs are quiet and letting us pick each other off.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Damnit. Cue dead people taunting.

You called

EdIT: sorry didn't see Sal's post. This isn't ment to be mean, just all in the fun of WW. I'll leave up my origianl post so you can see it's not ment in a meanness manner.

[Coder]

Ouch.. looks like Jeebs is out of it.. he just got a week in the bin.

[Alan T]

what did he do?

[Raiders Army]

See the drunk guy thread. Posted a NSFW pic unintentionally.

[TazFTW]

Then there's also WVU dropping out and Pass going awol so that's 3.

[Coder]

According to my calculations that is 10 left..

AE
Desnudo
Coder
Raiders Army
TazFTW
Dubb
Superman
RPI
Gram
Jessie

[Coder]

And that's before assassination today..

[Poli]

Coder, the only reason I keep pressing is because...duh, I think I caught you and for the past two friggin days you've lived.

I think this is a huge mistake on our part. We're working without a seer and so I took the time to review all the posts. I originally started that post just looking for anything. That's why Lathum's post about the sneakoscope came up...that's why I originally held contempt for superman. I still do, but that's backburner compared to you.

You think I'm pressing? You obviously don't know me very well.

[Poli]

And, I'm sick. Started getting sick yesterday. Full blown sick today. I doubt I'm on the computer much at all today.

[Coder]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

You think I'm pressing? You obviously don't know me very well.

Of course I don't, this is my first game ever.. but boy will you look silly when I die

[saldana]

Anger seems to be the only emotion left among those left in the villagers. Anger at the living for not being able to find the Death Eaters, anger at the dead for being annoying ghosts that dont shut up when told, and anger at their own selves after the knowledge that they might be letting this town slip away. Then comes the darkness, the time of the Death Eaters. They have owned the night and each night they have become more brazen. Tonight it seems they have more of the same in store for you all, as you hear laughter and cheering, but not the sounds of running, nor do you see the green glow of the Dark Mark. Cautiously, you peek out into the Town Square and see several Death Eaters (you cant be sure of the exact number, but there is more than one) throwing the still live body of RPI-Fan up into the air and then letting it crash back to the ground in a heap. This is worse than the Cruciatus torture, as RPI goes up and down a half dozen times to roars of laughter, as the Death Eaters appear to be having some kind of contest to see who can make RPI bounce the highest when they release the Levicorpus spell. Finally, with a sickening thud, RPI lands squarely on his face, pointing straight down, so that his neck skews at an unnatural angle, ending with the back of his head touching the space between his shoulder blades. Another roar of laughter, and the Death Eaters now turn and run, not even bothering to cast the Dark Mark, already assured of having everyone's attention. Obviously RPI was a Wizard, and his belongings are nothing but a large number of Daily Prophet clippings about Quidditch games and scribbled notes about which team was better than others. Perhaps if he had spent more time on finding Death Eaters and less time on Quidditch, you all think to yourselves, his broken and busted up corpse wouldnt be laying in the middle of town.

It is now Day 8, lynch votes are due by 9:30. stay tuned for an important announcement.

[Poli]

VOTE Coder.

If you're not a DE, then I'll walk the plank myself. I've been so friggin frustrated throughout this game I'd welcome death at that point.

[Raiders Army]

What I think is that none of the "vocal" people are DEs. They're killing off the ones that are silent and they're letting us kill the ones that are vocal. Hence, my vote for Pass.

[saldana]

here is an updated player list: please note that WVUFan has been graciously replaced by Thomkal, WVU requested this as he didnt want to hurt the game by not being able to remain committed to playing because of real life issues.

1.Alan T - Lynched Day 3
2.SnDvls - Lynched Day 2, DEATH EATER
3.Barkeep49 - Murdered, Night 1
4.Path12 - Lynched, Day 5
5.Mr. Wednesday - lynched, day 4
6.Ardent Enthusiast - Alive
7.Dacman - murdered, night 5
8.Lathum - poisoned, night 6
9.Blade6119 - Poisoned, Night 1
10.St Cronin - Tortured to death, Night 3
11.Passacaglia - Alive
12.Desnudo - Alive
13.Coder - Alive
14.Raiders Army - Alive
15.Schmidty - Duked by Gram, Day 6
16.KWhit - lynched Day 7
17.TazFTW - Alive
18.Dubb93 - Alive
19.JeeberD - Alive
20.ThomKal(replacing WVUFan) - Alive
21.Kingfc22 - murdered night 6
22.Superman=#54 - Alive
23.RPI-Fan - beaten to death, night 7
24.Grammaticus - Alive
25.Coffee Warlord - Murdered, Night 4
26.Neon_Chaos - Murdered, Night 2
27.Jesse_Ewiak - Alive
28.Quikshot - Lynched Day 1, DEATH EATER

any thoughts on what to do about jeeber in the bin and pass being awol are welcome.

[Raiders Army]

If they're DEs, just kill them and help us to win the game.

[Thomkal]

:::casts a spell to turn from WVUFan to Thomkal:::

Heya Fellow Wizards and assorted evils!

Glad to jump in to help, just let me live one day is all I ask. I have not and likely will not read the entire thread, probably sticking to the last 10 pages or so. If you would all be so helpful as to chime in with why I should not consider you to be a DE, that would be much appreciated.

[TazFTW]

I think WVUFan was a death eater. Let's lynch him today.

[Coder]

LYNCH HIM!

[Thomkal]

:::aims his wand at Taz and Coder:::

Which of you want to be turned into a toad first?

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I know that we might share different takes on how WW should be played but after running several games I've always held that if you're going to play WW, you're going to have to be ready to be insulted in whatever way shape or form by anyone. There is no place for sensitivity in the game. You have to have pretty thick skin.

As long as whatever is said in the game by the dead players do not compromise the integrity of the game rules / technical stuff / roles then I don't see why it can't be said. It's Werewolf, and out-and-out ribbing and insulting is fair game. Of course whatever is said/done in WW should not go beyond the confines of the thread. My Worst. Werewolf. Players. Ever. comment was most probably accurately put... save for my very first WW game ever (when I managed to lynch about 6 fellow Villagers in dumbass fashion. Ha). If anyone ribbed or poked fun at me during that time, I wouldn't feel insulted, heck, I'd probably agree .

I'm sad that you feel like I'm being a complete ass (which, in retrospect, I probably was)... but I want you to know that it's all just in the context of the game, and not how I'd feel or act outside it.
When I ran my WW games, I allowed pretty much anything to be said... AS LONG as it didn't compromise the game itself. That's why I get pretty mad when in-game technicalities are blurted out by dead people in the midst of heated arguments. That's a big WW no-no.

I'd like to apologize to the guys who were offended, if you feel that you're ashamed of whatever I've posted, but in no way have I compromised the game by doing any role reveals or putting in any additional information that I have acquired after my WW death. All my ribbings and side-comments are done in good fun (and frustration).

That said, and in light of Saldana's request, I'll be doing the rest of my talking when this game is over.

GO WIZARDS!

I appreciate the apologies and I believe you and Blade are both sincere. I do feel I need to point out that you and Blade are both dead, therefore your role in the game is over, erego, being insulting and belittling accomplishes nothing except making people enjoy the game less. I think you're also missing the line between good natured ribbing over getting people killed and personally insulting people's intelligence.

Anyway, my last thing to add will be that maybe if all of our important roles hadn't gotten themselves killed in the first few days, things would be a little easier right now. Something to think about for your next game.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by saldana

any thoughts on what to do about jeeber in the bin and pass being awol are welcome.

Hmm, swap them for Blade and Hoops