PING: Michigan fans

Butter · 11-14-2005, 11:06 AM

Enjoy the Outback bowl.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-14-2005, 05:55 PM

Thanks and, uh.... good luck in the Capitol One bowl?

Greyroofoo · 11-14-2005, 09:25 PM

I wish i was still in Toledo this year,

always a great place to be for the Michigan/ Ohio State game

Dr. Sak · 11-14-2005, 10:10 PM

Is there a way for both teams to lose

Schmidty · 11-14-2005, 10:25 PM

I'd talk some smack, but, well I'm a Spartan fan.

Butter · 11-15-2005, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Thanks and, uh.... good luck in the Capitol One bowl?

No, no, NO! That's all wrong.

Sparty is going to show up against PSU, and Ohio State's going to end up in the Fiesta Bowl. Again. Woo-hoo?

Solecismic · 11-15-2005, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I'd talk some smack, but, well I'm a Spartan fan.

I've got to tell you, I've enjoyed the Michigan State collapse this season for no other reason than all that endless smack you provided when they were 4-0.

Now, I'm back to rooting for you for one week. Of course, it may be a moot point by kickoff, in which case I'll go back to wanting a happy ending for JoePa.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

No, no, NO! That's all wrong.

Sparty is going to show up against PSU, and Ohio State's going to end up in the Fiesta Bowl. Again. Woo-hoo?

The stateo of Michigan protects its own. Michigan wins. Sparty wins. Penn State ends up in the Capitol One bowl. OSU gets to spend new years day in the Outback bowl. Michigan parties it up in the Fiesta or some other BCS bowl.

End of.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I'd talk some smack, but, well I'm a Spartan fan.

What happened? It seemed like ever since that botched field goal attempt on the last play of the second half against OSU Sparty has just imploded. Where is the Heisman candidate Drew Stanton?

ice4277 · 11-15-2005, 11:38 AM

If MSU wins, I think an MSU-WMU Motor City Bowl would be pretty cool.

Huckleberry · 11-15-2005, 11:42 AM

How cute. Wolverine fans and Buckeye fans talking smack.

Signed,
A Longhorn Fan

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry

How cute. Wolverine fans and Buckeye fans talking smack.

Signed,
A Longhorn Fan

When was the last time Texas won a national championship again? So far, Texas has looked very impressive against all those Big 12 power houses. Kansas... Texas Tech... Ooooohhh... Scary!

That said, I like Texas. It's hard not to, especially since many of the Lions best players: Shaun Rogers, Roy Williams, and Cory Redding hail from there . I like Vince Young too.

Schmidty · 11-15-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

I've got to tell you, I've enjoyed the Michigan State collapse this season for no other reason than all that endless smack you provided when they were 4-0.

Now, I'm back to rooting for you for one week. Of course, it may be a moot point by kickoff, in which case I'll go back to wanting a happy ending for JoePa.

Hey I can take my medicine. I deserve it.

In a way, I want JoePa to win, since I love that guy, but I really can't go against my team.

Schmidty · 11-15-2005, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

What happened? It seemed like ever since that botched field goal attempt on the last play of the second half against OSU Sparty has just imploded. Where is the Heisman candidate Drew Stanton?

Defense, defense, defense. I've watched every single game, and the biggest problem is that the LBs are waaaay too slow to stop the outside runs or help out with pass defense in the middle of the field. Also the CBs and FS are atrocious. The only bright spot on defense is the interior linemen and Eric Smith, the SS.

I think after the OSU game, the defense just gave up, and after the Northwestern game, the offense follow suit. I don't think that Stanton quit, but with all of the dropped balls and lack of protection, there's not much he can do.

Just a depressing year all around.

Ksyrup · 11-15-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

I wish i was still in Toledo this year

You are a sick, sick person. Even Toledo doesn't wish it were in Toledo.

Huckleberry · 11-15-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

When was the last time Texas won a national championship again? So far, Texas has looked very impressive against all those Big 12 power houses. Kansas... Texas Tech... Ooooohhh... Scary!

That said, I like Texas. It's hard not to, especially since many of the Lions best players: Shaun Rogers, Roy Williams, and Cory Redding hail from there . I like Vince Young too.

Mighty touchy. The post was in reference two the last two games we played against Big Ten teams. In case you forgot.

By the way, when was the last time Michigan actually had the best team in the nation again? 1948?

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry

Mighty touchy. The post was in reference two the last two games we played against Big Ten teams. In case you forgot.

By the way, when was the last time Michigan actually had the best team in the nation again? 1948?

1997.

No debate there.

I don't acknowledge that Tom Osborne sympathy vote nonsense. Never have. Never will.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry

Mighty touchy.

Dola.

Also, you come in here talking smack and I reply with a little smack and I'm "mighty touchy"? Do you not understand how smack talking works? Kid, if you can't handle the heat, stay out the damn kitchen!

Butter · 11-15-2005, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

1997.

No debate there.

I don't acknowledge that Tom Osborne sympathy vote nonsense. Never have. Never will.

That was back when nearly everyone acknowledged that Big Ten teams were just too slow to keep up with the Nebraska's and Miami's of the world.

Then came 2002, and Ohio State legitimized Michigan's '97 team as the best in the nation.

Or something.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

That was back when nearly everyone acknowledged that Big Ten teams were just too slow to keep up with the Nebraska's and Miami's of the world.

Then came 2002, and Ohio State legitimized Michigan's '97 team as the best in the nation.

Or something.

I've never heard that historical intrepretation of those events. It's, uh, interesting.

Or something.

Though I do recall everyone thinking that Big Ten teams were too slow and such, but I thought that whole nonsense was resolved in the mid-to-late 90's or so.

Butter · 11-15-2005, 02:32 PM

No, in my revised version, it was Ohio State v. Miami that laid that to rest.

Although the Penn State team with Kerry Collins and Ki-Jana Carter was pretty impressive too.

Huckleberry · 11-15-2005, 02:34 PM

Nebraska would have run Michigan out of the stadium.

If we want to look objectively, everyone computer ratings set I know of had Nebraska ahead in 1997. Many had Michigan 3rd or lower. This link will show you that the only titles given to Michigan were in the human polls. All objective non-biased interpretations gave it to Nebraska.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry

Nebraska would have run Michigan out of the stadium.

Don't think so. No.

1997 Michigan football team: Undefeated National Champions.

As for Nebraska... Anytime. Anywhere. Bring it.

Schmidty · 11-15-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Don't think so. No.

1997 Michigan football team: Undefeated National Champions.

As for Nebraska... Anytime. Anywhere. Bring it.

I'm sorry, but Nebraska would have won. That team was amazing.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I'm sorry, but Nebraska would have won. That team was amazing.

I am shocked. Shocked, I say, that you'd come down in favor of Nebraska in this debate!

Schmidty · 11-15-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I am shocked. Shocked, I say, that you'd come down in favor of Nebraska in this debate!

Can't teach an old dog new tricks, sorry.

Blade6119 · 11-15-2005, 02:47 PM

Its pains me to say this as a mizzou boy, but its true...Nebraska would have kicked the ever loving crap out of michigan...that team had everything

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Its pains me to say this as a mizzou boy, but its true...Nebraska would have kicked the ever loving crap out of michigan...that team had everything

It didn't have a Heisman Trophy winner!

Solecismic · 11-15-2005, 02:49 PM

My own computer system had Nebraska ahead of Michigan by quite a bit. Of course, none of the polls actually take matchups into account. I think it would have been a good game. The BCS was designed precisely to address what happened in 1997. Unfortunately, the BCS doesn't do so well with the myriad of other possibilities.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

My own computer system had Nebraska ahead of Michigan by quite a bit. Of course, none of the polls actually take matchups into account. I think it would have been a good game. The BCS was designed precisely to address what happened in 1997. Unfortunately, the BCS doesn't do so well with the myriad of other possibilities.

In my latest FOF5 career, I led the Detroit Lions to 5 straight Super Bowls. Joey Harrington even won one. So, obviously your own computer systems have a kink or two left in them.

Schmidty · 11-15-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

In my latest FOF5 career, I led the Detroit Lions to 5 straight Super Bowls. Joey Harrington even won one. So, obviously your own computer systems have a kink or two left in them.

BURN!!!!

Butter · 11-15-2005, 02:58 PM

These arguments against Michigan are pretty much the same ones made against Ohio State the year they played Miami for the title. Most prognosticators had Miami winning by 2 touchdowns or even more. Ohio State was supposed to be "run out of the stadium".

If Michigan had the right gameplan in that game, they could have won. It would've been a good one. But I think it would've been even, and I think Michigan more than deserves the split title that year, since it was pre-BCS.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

These arguments against Michigan are pretty much the same ones made against Ohio State the year they played Miami for the title. Most prognosticators had Miami winning by 2 touchdowns or even more. Ohio State was supposed to be "run out of the stadium".

If Michigan had the right gameplan in that game, they could have won. It would've been a good one. But I think it would've been even, and I think Michigan more than deserves the split title that year, since it was pre-BCS.

Agreed. The Butterman is wise.

Now... enough with this frolic and detour and back to the matter at hand...

OHIO STATE SUCKS!

They will lose and lose royally this Saturday. No more of that Teddy Ginn nonsense. NO MORE!

To put it in the parlance of our times...

Michigan is Obi Wan Kenobi.
Ohio State is Anakin Skywalker.
And Michigan has the higher ground, BITCHES!!!

Blade6119 · 11-15-2005, 03:04 PM

*Whimper* at the thought of what happens in like a month when brad smith graduates from mizzou....hello baylor part II

Butter · 11-15-2005, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

They will lose and lose royally this Saturday. No more of that Teddy Ginn nonsense. NO MORE!

Would you take any of that Santonio Holmes nonsense? It's half price.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-15-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Would you take any of that Santonio Holmes nonsense? It's half price.

While your offer is quite generous, we will not be accepting any nonsense from players whose first name sounds like a mispronunciation of a city in Texas. I am sorry.

Huckleberry · 11-15-2005, 03:58 PM

Did you know that Cedric Griffin, the Texas CB that had primary coverage responsibility for Santonio Holmes this year, went to San Antonio Holmes high school?

Amazing but true.

JeffNights · 11-15-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

In my latest FOF5 career, I led the Detroit Lions to 5 straight Super Bowls. Joey Harrington even won one. So, obviously your own computer systems have a kink or two left in them.

ZING!!! ZAM!!!!! BOOM!!!! KAPOW!!!!!!

Best. Burn. Ever.

Dr. Sak · 11-15-2005, 09:04 PM

I will be making my way to East Lansing this weekend to root on the Nittany Lions to, hopefully, their 2nd Big Ten title. Hopefully it will be better than my last trip to Michigan a little over a month ago. To tell you the truth I am a little worried about MSU their offense has a chance to blow up at any moment but they are going to be a little shorthanded as their top receiver is out for the game. In this mini-rivalry the home team has a decisive edge. I just hope we get the MSU team that showed up against Northwestern, Purdue, and Minnesota and not the one that showed up vs Notre Dame.

edit: This wont be Joe's last year. He already said he is coming back next year. Question to the OSU/UM fans: What do you think of College Gameday passing on the big game in Ann Arbor to come to East Lansing?

Butter · 11-16-2005, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

Question to the OSU/UM fans: What do you think of College Gameday passing on the big game in Ann Arbor to come to East Lansing?

I don't watch College GameDay, so I don't care.

What I do care about is them firing Lou Holtz this offseason and bringing in someone who doesn't have a sack of marbles in their mouth.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-16-2005, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I don't watch College GameDay, so I don't care.

What I do care about is them firing Lou Holtz this offseason and bringing in someone who doesn't have a sack of marbles in their mouth.

I concur with both statements above.

Wolfpack · 11-16-2005, 09:06 AM

Lou Holtz: Uniter of Michigan and Ohio State Fans Everywhere!

Butter · 02-10-2006, 07:24 AM

So, how did you guys like the Buckeye 3-point shooting last night? I must say, I was quite pleased with it myself.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-10-2006, 07:33 AM

I suspect steroids.

DeToxRox · 02-10-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

So, how did you guys like the Buckeye 3-point shooting last night? I must say, I was quite pleased with it myself.

They shot as high as half of them can count.

11-14-2005, 05:55 PM	#2
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11-14-2005, 10:25 PM	#5
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11-15-2005, 11:42 AM	#11
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11-15-2005, 02:32 PM	#21
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	No, in my revised version, it was Ohio State v. Miami that laid that to rest. Although the Penn State team with Kerry Collins and Ki-Jana Carter was pretty impressive too. __________________ My listening habits

11-15-2005, 02:34 PM	#22
Huckleberry College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001	Nebraska would have run Michigan out of the stadium. If we want to look objectively, everyone computer ratings set I know of had Nebraska ahead in 1997. Many had Michigan 3rd or lower. This link will show you that the only titles given to Michigan were in the human polls. All objective non-biased interpretations gave it to Nebraska. __________________ The one thing all your failed relationships have in common is you. The Barking Carnival (Longhorn-centered sports blog) College Football Adjusted Stats and Ratings

11-14-2005, 09:25 PM	#3
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	I wish i was still in Toledo this year, always a great place to be for the Michigan/ Ohio State game

11-14-2005, 10:10 PM	#4
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Is there a way for both teams to lose

11-15-2005, 11:38 AM	#10
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	If MSU wins, I think an MSU-WMU Motor City Bowl would be pretty cool.

11-15-2005, 02:47 PM	#27
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Its pains me to say this as a mizzou boy, but its true...Nebraska would have kicked the ever loving crap out of michigan...that team had everything __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

11-15-2005, 02:49 PM	#29
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	My own computer system had Nebraska ahead of Michigan by quite a bit. Of course, none of the polls actually take matchups into account. I think it would have been a good game. The BCS was designed precisely to address what happened in 1997. Unfortunately, the BCS doesn't do so well with the myriad of other possibilities.

11-15-2005, 02:58 PM	#32
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	These arguments against Michigan are pretty much the same ones made against Ohio State the year they played Miami for the title. Most prognosticators had Miami winning by 2 touchdowns or even more. Ohio State was supposed to be "run out of the stadium". If Michigan had the right gameplan in that game, they could have won. It would've been a good one. But I think it would've been even, and I think Michigan more than deserves the split title that year, since it was pre-BCS. __________________ My listening habits

11-15-2005, 03:04 PM	#34
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Whimper at the thought of what happens in like a month when brad smith graduates from mizzou....hello baylor part II __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

11-15-2005, 03:58 PM	#37
Huckleberry College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001	Did you know that Cedric Griffin, the Texas CB that had primary coverage responsibility for Santonio Holmes this year, went to San Antonio Holmes high school? Amazing but true. __________________ The one thing all your failed relationships have in common is you. The Barking Carnival (Longhorn-centered sports blog) College Football Adjusted Stats and Ratings

11-15-2005, 09:04 PM	#39
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I will be making my way to East Lansing this weekend to root on the Nittany Lions to, hopefully, their 2nd Big Ten title. Hopefully it will be better than my last trip to Michigan a little over a month ago. To tell you the truth I am a little worried about MSU their offense has a chance to blow up at any moment but they are going to be a little shorthanded as their top receiver is out for the game. In this mini-rivalry the home team has a decisive edge. I just hope we get the MSU team that showed up against Northwestern, Purdue, and Minnesota and not the one that showed up vs Notre Dame. edit: This wont be Joe's last year. He already said he is coming back next year. Question to the OSU/UM fans: What do you think of College Gameday passing on the big game in Ann Arbor to come to East Lansing? Last edited by Dr. Sak : 11-15-2005 at 09:06 PM.

11-16-2005, 09:06 AM	#42
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	Lou Holtz: Uniter of Michigan and Ohio State Fans Everywhere!

02-10-2006, 07:24 AM	#43
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	So, how did you guys like the Buckeye 3-point shooting last night? I must say, I was quite pleased with it myself. __________________ My listening habits

02-10-2006, 07:33 AM	#44
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I suspect steroids. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

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