Survivor:Challenge/Common Thread (GAME OVER! FEED BACK WELCOME)

[Raiders Army]

NM

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

A tie for a place will result in the winning tribes splitting the points.

wouldn't that in essence knock them down to third and fourth place?

[Alan T]

This is yesterday's votes broken down by tribes/people instead of time. I still dont know if it tells us alot, for the most part I felt the majority of the votes seemed like teams trying to win as a team. Only at the end the votes for Swaggs I didnt understand. Some of the votes one particular team made for the majority of the day seemed odd to me too.


(Lupus) Schmidty 1, Alan 1, Path 2, Lathum 1, St.cronin 2, Jonathan 1
Kwhit -> Schmidty
Anxiety -> Alan, Path, Lathum, St.cronin
Blade -> St.cronin, Jonathan
Swaggs -> Path

(Howard) Ardent 2, Alan 1, Swaggs 5
Jon -> Ardent, swaggs
ntndeacon -> Alan, Swaggs
Marathoner -> Ardent, Swaggs, Swaggs
Path -> Swaggs

(Helsing) St.cronin 2, Swaggs 3, Blade 3, Kwhit 1
Alan -> St.cronin
Grammaticus -> St.cronin
Tyrith -> Swaggs
Lathum -> Kwhit, Blade, Blade
Pass -> Swaggs
Mr.W -> Swaggs, Blade

(oz) Jonathan 2, Alan 3, Swaggs 3
Ardent -> Jon, Jon, Swaggs
Goldeneagle -> Alan, Alan
St.cronin -> Jonathan, Swaggs
Inthecrew -> Alan
Raiders -> Swaggs
Schmidty -> <--->

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Lathum

wouldn't that in essence knock them down to third and fourth place?

I think he means for each individual 'place' a tie results in split winnings.

[Barkeep49]

Let's say that the highest bid for Dogbonia is $28 and two tribes bid that. They'd each pay $28 and get 5 points each.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Let's say that the highest bid for Dogbonia is $28 and two tribes bid that. They'd each pay $28 and get 5 points each.

oh my

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Let's say that the highest bid for Dogbonia is $28 and two tribes bid that. They'd each pay $28 and get 5 points each.

28 bones for Dogbonia.....that would be stupid!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

28 bones for Dogbonia.....that would be stupid!

*erases his bid for Dogbonia*

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Only at the end the votes for Swaggs I didnt understand.

I'll try to answer for team Howard. There are a couple of reasons why we went after Swaggs yesterday. First, we were under the impression that if we blocked his vote it wouldn't count towards him participating. You'll notice that we started going after him with the fourth vote. By this time, we were in serious trouble of being one of the bottom two tribes with Lupus running away. We figured that if we could block Swaggs from voting, Lupus would be disqualified and we would then have a shot at finishing second. It wasn't until I think the last three or four votes that BK corrected our assumption, but by then, we had already set out on the plan to continue to vote Swaggs and not mess up our plan by changing the target (especially since we had already had one vote disqualified due to miscommunication).

Another reason for going after him was simply that he's in the Lupus tribe. They were running away with the contest and it appeared that we were going back to tribal council. We knew that voting for Swaggs wouldn't kill him, but we hoped it would do something to hurt their tribe. We didn't want to be the only tribe with just three members.

It wasn't anything personal with Swaggs. It was simply a matter of being the only member of Lupus who hadn't vote yet.

I hope that explains our votes.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

28 bones for Dogbonia.....that would be stupid!

It's my personal philosophy to avoid any place called Dogbonia.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I'll try to answer for team Howard. There are a couple of reasons why we went after Swaggs yesterday. First, we were under the impression that if we blocked his vote it wouldn't count towards him participating. You'll notice that we started going after him with the fourth vote. By this time, we were in serious trouble of being one of the bottom two tribes with Lupus running away. We figured that if we could block Swaggs from voting, Lupus would be disqualified and we would then have a shot at finishing second. It wasn't until I think the last three or four votes that BK corrected our assumption, but by then, we had already set out on the plan to continue to vote Swaggs and not mess up our plan by changing the target (especially since we had already had one vote disqualified due to miscommunication).

Another reason for going after him was simply that he's in the Lupus tribe. They were running away with the contest and it appeared that we were going back to tribal council. We knew that voting for Swaggs wouldn't kill him, but we hoped it would do something to hurt their tribe. We didn't want to be the only tribe with just three members.

It wasn't anything personal with Swaggs. It was simply a matter of being the only member of Lupus who hadn't vote yet.

I hope that explains our votes.

Out of all of the teams, I think your strategy over the course of the day was the closest to our team's strategy. For a few different votes you either voted for the same person, or one of our top choices to vote for. I was merely commenting about at the very end once BK had clarified that he didn't need to revote (I had the same thoughts in my mind until then too personally).

At that point, it seemed logical to me that Blade was going to be their voter and I didn't even expect Swaggs would be around so didn't understand the piling on there (especially since none of your guys were close to being in danger of getting the bad luck role whatever it is.).

Either way, I can buy the not wanting to change the strategy at the end part, and it wasnt to lynch someone, I just mainly tossed out the votes all packaged up in case anyone else could benefit from them. I think I disagree with Blade on how much info it will provide us to tracking down wolves just yet. I think the bigger info for that will come from what happened in tribal councils to vote out people.

I'm also curious if people have put alot of thought into who on your particular team might be a wolf. My team has had pretty good chemistry and gotten along pretty well so its not really been something in my mind just yet. This game is a bit different than normal WW games where the first interest is chasing out wolves at all cost. Here you also want to protect your team to some extent to keep yourself around longer.

I don't even remember which team ended up with the seer (Oz I think?) but I think if I had been the seer, I would have gotten a good feel for who all in my team was good or bad so I knew who to trust down the road.

One other thing that seems absent from normal WW games is the impact of the wolves. We have had two straight immunity from wolf challenges where some teams were protected and some wern't, yet we didnt see any wolves strike teams that wernt protected. That is a bit different.

Do wolves perhaps have to complete some type of challenge within the challenge to gain powers to kill at night? Just how we all competed for bodyguard or seer abilities, do they have something similar? Do they have to spend time figuring out who fellow wolves are? Why haven't we seen any signs of them yet?

[Alan T]

Could the wolves have to submit their "kill" before the immunity challenge is complete, so if they end up targeting someone who got immunity they have no kill? Ie: if a wolf yesterday stated their target would be someone from my tribe, and we ended up getting wolf immunity, they end up losing their action?

[Swaggs]

I now know what the bad thing is... I have to speak in riddle. I have learned some things. I can help.

The person who we know wrote the acrostic cannot do what #2 mentioned in his first post. #367 is something he can do, however.

Yes or no, does that make sense?

[Swaggs]

Whoops...

I now know what the bad thing is... I have to speak in riddle. I have learned some things. I can help.

The person who we know wrote the acrostic cannot do what #2 mentioned in his first post. #367 is something he can do, however.

Yes or no, does that make sense?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Could the wolves have to submit their "kill" before the immunity challenge is complete, so if they end up targeting someone who got immunity they have no kill? Ie: if a wolf yesterday stated their target would be someone from my tribe, and we ended up getting wolf immunity, they end up losing their action?

I was thinking that could be the case -- best way I can think of to explain the no-kill.

[Poli]

Woah. Erh?

[Passacaglia]

Sounds like he's dissing ardent (saying ardent won't outlast, outwin, or whatever), and saying there is not more than one wofl per tribe?

[Poli]

Number 2, in the game? Cronin?

[Poli]

I'm assuming I'm the acrostic guy, because I've written like 3 of them now.

[Passacaglia]

We're sitting here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we're talking about Dogbonia. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about Dogbonia, not a wolf, not a wolf, not a wolf, but we're talking about Dogbonia. Not the wolf that I go out there and die for and play every wolf last it's my last but we're talking about Dogbonia man. How silly is that?

[Passacaglia]

I assume you're the acrostic guy, too, since the first letters spelled your name. I thought #2 and #367 were post numbers, but I could be wrong.

[Poli]

Where'd that come from pass? I know the AI ref, but why here?

[Swaggs]

(Frustrated)

Yes or no?

[Poli]

367 is "fixed" by kwhit.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

(Frustrated)

Yes or no?

I think the bad thing that's happened to you is that you've become a bumbling fool!

[Poli]

No. It does not make sense.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Where'd that come from pass? I know the AI ref, but why here?

Just random. All the talk about Dogbonia made me think of it.

[ImTheCrew]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

We're sitting here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we're talking about Dogbonia. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about Dogbonia, not a wolf, not a wolf, not a wolf, but we're talking about Dogbonia. Not the wolf that I go out there and die for and play every wolf last it's my last but we're talking about Dogbonia man. How silly is that?

Like it

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

There also could possibly be more than one wolf per tribe if more than one volunteered...

This is what I have for post #367.

[Poli]

My bad. I hit 357.

[ImTheCrew]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

There also could possibly be more than one wolf per tribe if more than one volunteered...

Post 367

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Whoops...

I now know what the bad thing is... I have to speak in riddle. I have learned some things. I can help.

The person who we know wrote the acrostic cannot do what #2 mentioned in his first post. #367 is something he can do, however.

Yes or no, does that make sense?

Person who wrote the Acrostic = Swaggs? (His post spells out Wity - witty?), Erythraean Sibyl ? Someone else?

#2 = Lathum was #2 on signup thread, Cronin is listed #2 in this team thread, I was #2 in the meet the survivors thread?

#367 = I got the same post from Raiders Army for #367

[ImTheCrew]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

The person who we know wrote the acrostic cannot do what #2 mentioned in his first post. #367 is something he can do, however.

Number 2: Cronin??? Cronin First post was saying he was a member of oz and he didnt have much to say yet.....

[Poli]

I can guarantee you this, I can't do anything other than what a normal villager does, and I'm off to work again.

[Alan T]

Lol, maybe the bad thing that happened is he has to reveal something about himself using the numbers..

#2, #3, #6, # 7 words in his statement :

Whoops...

I now know what the bad thing is... I have to speak in riddle. I have learned some things. I can help.

The person who we know wrote the acrostic cannot do what #2 mentioned in his first post. #367 is something he can do, however.

Yes or no, does that make sense?

[Poli]

If someone has 367 posts in one of these threads, I'll croak.

[ImTheCrew]

now know bad thing?

[Poli]

That's a good one, Alan. Now know the bad.

[ImTheCrew]

oh nvm for got the whoops

[Poli]

Me too.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

If someone has 367 posts in one of these threads, I'll croak.

I am up to 355 posts between all of the threads I am allowed in. I have to guess thats probably the highest.

[ImTheCrew]

swaggs can you tell us if we get it right?

[Swaggs]

Yes

[Poli]

Have we got it right?

[Alan T]

Swaggs do you have to answer everything you are asked today?

[Swaggs]

No

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Swaggs do you have to answer everything you are asked today?

No

[Passacaglia]

Swaggs would you please quote what question you're answering?

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Have we got it right?

No

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Have we got it right?

No

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