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Old 12-17-2005, 12:17 AM   #351
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No. It is best to scout recruits ASAP! As in, week 1 for you main targets, and then as many as you have the budget for. Then check them each week and see what kind of information they have given you. As soon as you see "very important" for anything that fits your school make that your pitch. If it is getting late and you have no pitch and you fear you may lose the recruit use logic to make a guess.

If all the teams they are interested in are local, then location is probably it. If the teams are national and are weak in the position then you can probably bet they are looking for some PT.

There is a risk/reward though based on guessing early. So if you guess location in the first week without knowing anything about him, you get the biggest bonus to recruiting him if you guess the type of pitch successfully.. Every week you know more details about him the bonus for pitch gets smaller.

Here is a good rule of thumb. If you are a smaller school and you notice a 3 star or 4 star is local to your state.and has pretty high interest in your team, pitch him first week location. Good chance you will nail the pitch in the first week. Now you have a decent shot of actually landing that recruit even though he might be normally out of your league.

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Old 12-17-2005, 12:26 AM   #352
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I keep getting some automation error. I've unloaded and reinstalled it twice and get the same thing and find nada on the site that talks about how to make it work.

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Old 12-17-2005, 12:38 AM   #353
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Is there a way to mass sub or something for when the game becomes a blowout? I know Arlie had said something about adding it in later or is it just been added to the AI's roster management for your team now?
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:50 AM   #354
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Go to team staff page on the season menu.
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:51 AM   #355
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I keep getting some automation error. I've unloaded and reinstalled it twice and get the same thing and find nada on the site that talks about how to make it work.

Not. so. happy.
Sounds like a bad control install. If you can, send me your install.log file in your main folder and I will see if I can find which one. send it to [email protected].

If you can, let me know in the email what action causes the error.
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:54 AM   #356
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Sounds like a bad control install. If you can, send me your install.log file in your main folder and I will see if I can find which one. send it to [email protected].

If you can, let me know in the email what action causes the error.

Just emailed you. Thanks.
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:54 AM   #357
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There is a risk/reward though based on guessing early. So if you guess location in the first week without knowing anything about him, you get the biggest bonus to recruiting him if you guess the type of pitch successfully.. Every week you know more details about him the bonus for pitch gets smaller.

Here is a good rule of thumb. If you are a smaller school and you notice a 3 star or 4 star is local to your state.and has pretty high interest in your team, pitch him first week location. Good chance you will nail the pitch in the first week. Now you have a decent shot of actually landing that recruit even though he might be normally out of your league.
This is very good advice. One other thing I recommend is choosing the best pitch for you in some cases (esp if you are going for a longshot). IE, if you are in-state, an average prestige school and the kid may favor location or prestige - choose location. Chances are if you choose prestige and are right, he will end up choosing a higher prestige school anyway. But, if it's location, you may get a boost by being in-state and he may choose you. Just another thing to keep in mind.
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:00 AM   #358
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Is there a way to mass sub or something for when the game becomes a blowout? I know Arlie had said something about adding it in later or is it just been added to the AI's roster management for your team now?
The AI will sub in in the final quarter if it's a blowout. You can adjust your depth chart at any time though.

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Old 12-17-2005, 01:33 AM   #359
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This is very good advice. One other thing I recommend is choosing the best pitch for you in some cases (esp if you are going for a longshot). IE, if you are in-state, an average prestige school and the kid may favor location or prestige - choose location. Chances are if you choose prestige and are right, he will end up choosing a higher prestige school anyway. But, if it's location, you may get a boost by being in-state and he may choose you. Just another thing to keep in mind.

How do you know when to pitch coach? Is that random or based on how well you are doing?
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Old 12-17-2005, 03:56 AM   #360
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Its not random. It depends on how well the coach is doing and also does the coach play in a style that the player likes. Read the recruit notes closely there are clues as to which pitch may work best.
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:08 AM   #361
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My starting QB was injured (bruised spleen) in the first game of my first career. My next two best QBs were about equal so I decided to try to give them both some playing time. Using the suggest button on playing time split them up at 60-40, so I decided to stick with that.

Well, the QBs pretty much alternated every play. One would come in for 1st down and then he'd leave and the other guy would play 2nd down and maybe 3rd. And they did this for the entire game. That kind of killed the 2 QB system experiment for me.

Isn't this what Tennessee did a few years ago?
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:21 AM   #362
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Arels, any way of making it when you tab to a new test box, it highlights the text instead of just moving the cursor to the box? Like in doing study hall, when I tab from box to box, the cursor just moves to the next box, so I have to hit delete to get rid of the number then type the number in the box. If it highlighted the text already, I could just type the number I want. It may not seem like a big deal, but the clicking and deleting get tedious after a while.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:31 AM   #363
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which is a bigger HS, a (5) or a (1)?
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:40 AM   #364
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:39 AM   #365
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Arels, any way of making it when you tab to a new test box, it highlights the text instead of just moving the cursor to the box? Like in doing study hall, when I tab from box to box, the cursor just moves to the next box, so I have to hit delete to get rid of the number then type the number in the box. If it highlighted the text already, I could just type the number I want. It may not seem like a big deal, but the clicking and deleting get tedious after a while.
Great idea. I'll try to work that into 1.1.
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:40 AM   #366
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what does an asterisk by a recruit's name, during the regular season mean?
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:42 AM   #367
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what does an asterisk by a recruit's name, during the regular season mean?

I believe it means Juco.
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:46 AM   #368
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Its not random. It depends on how well the coach is doing and also does the coach play in a style that the player likes. Read the recruit notes closely there are clues as to which pitch may work best.

That's amazing to see in any type of game - "read the recruit notes closely there are clues...". That sure is a long ways from an OOTP game where the notes (about a player) are meaningless, or a Sol game where there are no notes, or even from the great FBCB where they are very sparse.
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:07 AM   #369
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Yeah, each recruit gives a set of comments on his preferences. You never get told explicitly, but if you follow them closely, you should be able to see a couple high probabilty options for the recruit pitch.
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:49 AM   #370
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Ok, I think it's time.
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:52 AM   #371
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I have a strong feeling that over christmas break for the plant, I am going to have to format my computer
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:58 AM   #372
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Wipe that puppy! Get with the program and bring it on in C-USA...
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:27 PM   #373
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Finally got all the logos, field artwork, etc.. loaded and I'm ready to take the reigns of Mizzou!

Go Black and Gold, Go!!

btw, nice work on the mods gentlemen!! I like having a helmet in the top right and the team logo in the bottom.
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:43 PM   #374
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well I am off starting next friday, so that may be the day to do it
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:34 PM   #375
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Arles...

One thing that might be considered as a slight tweak for 1.1...scheduling of rivals. I tried 1.02 with Ohio University and the A.D. tells me not to get blown out by Marshall, Ohio's rival. Marshall isn't on the schedule as a permanent game with them being in
C-USA now...is there a way you can fix it to where out of conference "rival" games are a permanent fix? Thanks!!
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:39 PM   #376
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Not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but I have had a couple issues with the depth chart:

1. Sometimes after I have made a number of changes and then click on a player name to bring up his card, I'll get the player card of a completely different player.

2. After viewing a position with a number of players and using the scroll bar to see the ones at the bottom of the list, and then moving to another position group with the drop down, I cannot scroll back to the top of the list.

I'm not sure if the explanation of those make sense.
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Old 12-17-2005, 03:10 PM   #377
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Not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but I have had a couple issues with the depth chart:

1. Sometimes after I have made a number of changes and then click on a player name to bring up his card, I'll get the player card of a completely different player.

2. After viewing a position with a number of players and using the scroll bar to see the ones at the bottom of the list, and then moving to another position group with the drop down, I cannot scroll back to the top of the list.

I'm not sure if the explanation of those make sense.

I mentioned very similar a few pages ago. I shoulda posted to the GDS forums about all my depth chart (and a few other problems/suggestions), but, well, I'm lazy.
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Old 12-17-2005, 03:50 PM   #378
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Was that patch supposed to fix the recovery period for injuries?

Doesn't look like it's done a bloody thing for me. I'm still unable to play anyone even slightly injured, as they immediately re-injure themselves, usually worse. Severity doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. If someone is injured, they will remain so unless/until I completely take them off the depth chart.

I'm now staring at 16 injured players with 4 games to go, mainly because no one heals.
Several have dropped from probable to doubtful after I left them in.
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Old 12-17-2005, 04:01 PM   #379
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Was that patch supposed to fix the recovery period for injuries?

Doesn't look like it's done a bloody thing for me. I'm still unable to play anyone even slightly injured, as they immediately re-injure themselves, usually worse. Severity doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. If someone is injured, they will remain so unless/until I completely take them off the depth chart.

I'm now staring at 16 injured players with 4 games to go, mainly because no one heals.
Several have dropped from probable to doubtful after I left them in.

Yeah, I've noticed a major improvement in the number of players that are "out," but it is still very dangerous to play guys that are injured at all. As for whether that's realistic or not, I don't really know. I suspect it is in some cases and not in others, and I don't have enough information to know if the game has the percentages correct.
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Old 12-17-2005, 04:33 PM   #380
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another recruiting question: can you/would it help to spend money recruiting a guy without a pitch and then change it later?

edit: does that like...for lack of a better word, let them know of your interest? i am thinking so, because otherwise that's a lot of $$ i have to recruit with each week...

and why don't i read the manuel and try to find out? LOL

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Old 12-17-2005, 04:34 PM   #381
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just had one of those problems where the game is "not responding", I see a big square there but no Bowl bound within it, just the desktop. Had to restart, and.....lost a ton of work. Sucks!!
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Old 12-17-2005, 04:35 PM   #382
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I agree on the injury comments above. Injuries are vastly improved after the patch, but if it's recommended that a player sit, he's in street clothes on my sideline unless it's the last regular season game of the year. Too much risk of a severer injury occurring.

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Old 12-17-2005, 05:39 PM   #383
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on the recruits screen some cornerbacks show tackles for loss as numbers in the millions.
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Old 12-17-2005, 05:41 PM   #384
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Recruit him then.
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Old 12-17-2005, 05:51 PM   #385
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on the accept visits screen when you bring up a player card, the arrows to scroll immediately next to their names dont correlate with the scrolling that they do. IOW the person that is next on the list is not who it goes to.
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Old 12-17-2005, 05:57 PM   #386
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Yeah, I've noticed that since the demo. It seems to do it based on however it sorts originally and ignores re-sorts. It also does that on the roster screen I believe (at least to me it does)
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:52 PM   #387
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not a complaint AT ALL because I really enjoy it. But I find myself spending the majority of my time with the game doing recruiting. just wondering if anyone has any kind of "tips" for making the cumbersomeness of recruiting any less.

usually i find myself

1) going through the list of recruits with 10/9/8 (and maybe a few 7) interest guys and watch-listing everyone who is a 3-4-5 star player.
2) scouting as many of those guys as possible, obviously starting with the 10-5 guys and moving on down to the 9-5, 8-5 etc.

3) checking my e-mail to see what the recommendations are
4) starting to act on those, beginning to recruit the guys who i have a shot at using my watch list
5) checking the visit list and giving 5 visits

the problem is i find myself going through 3/4 constantly to make sure that the status of some of the guys hasn't changed with regards to how many offers they have and how much of a shot i have, and then having to constantly check the guys that i scouted to see how much more of their preferences is revealed so i can decide on my pitch.

is there any way that anyone has thought of to kinda...make this a little less..."click back and forth from the e-mail" intensive? short of printing out each e-mail, cuz the laptop isn't hooked to a printer...
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:08 PM   #388
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I copy/paste the email to notepad so I can have it open while recruiting.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:20 PM   #389
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Has anyone else noticed kicker stats being a little out of whack? Here's a screen of the top kickers through 10 weeks:



Here are the stats I've dug up so far:
From my game (10 weeks)
117 total FG > 50 yards
58 players kicked them
most 6
long 61 (60x2)

NCAA stats (full seasons):
2005:
47 total FG > 50 yards
33 players kicked them
most 5
long 58(2)

2004:
62 total FG > 50 yards
39 players kicked them
most 6
long 60

2003:
60 total
35 players
most 4
long 59

2002:
60 total
38 players
most 3
long 59(2)

If everyone else got normal kickers, maybe my league just had a good run.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:20 PM   #390
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oooh that'd work.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:23 PM   #391
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I copy/paste the email to notepad so I can have it open while recruiting.
I don't use the e-mail recommendations at all any more. They are tied directly to the 1-10 "Interest" ratings and the scouting service hired, I'm pretty sure. The "Interest" rating seems like plenty.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:26 PM   #392
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Another query. Do the awards screens sort automatically based on who is perceived to be the front runner? I only ask because the QB algorithm would have to be messed up in my game if it is. I only noticed because as I scrolled through the other awards, they seemed to make sense, with the top RB's at the top, WR's at the top... But the QB's don't really line-up for me.

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Old 12-17-2005, 09:27 PM   #393
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dola, none of these are gamebreakers, don't mean to be negative or anything, just trying to help with the game.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:30 PM   #394
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yeah. long FG's being attempted/made fairly often
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:35 PM   #395
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you know, I've never received one of the emails that Skydog's mentioned... the one's from potential recruits who say "Dad went to your school and I want to go there as well", etc. Has anyone else seen these, and if so, how often do you get them? I would think playing as Oklahoma State I'd be getting at least one in 16 seasons. Also, if you ARE getting them, at what time of year do they show up?
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:38 PM   #396
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I get about 1 every year. You will receive it on the first week of recruiting.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:40 PM   #397
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you know, I've never received one of the emails that Skydog's mentioned... the one's from potential recruits who say "Dad went to your school and I want to go there as well", etc. Has anyone else seen these, and if so, how often do you get them? I would think playing as Oklahoma State I'd be getting at least one in 16 seasons. Also, if you ARE getting them, at what time of year do they show up?
I wonder if you only get them when playing with a low-prestige school. It would make sense. After all, if you have enough $$$ to recruit out-of-region on a regular basis, the e-mail would just be clutter, because there might be several guys at each position who are out-of-region and are "10" interest. However, when I've only got $20K-$25K to spend each week on recruiting, I'm not looking out-of-region at all, so the e-mail tells me, "Hey Ben, you need to look in the West Region for Offensive Tackles! Yeah, 59 of the 60 have '1' interest, but there's one guy out there with '9', and he's a 3-star guy, too!"
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:48 PM   #398
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okay here's a question i havn't found an answer to. that little "Players Recruited" block down below your recruiting budget and remaining scholarships when you're recruiting...what is the significance of the #'s in parenthesis versus the ones not?
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:53 PM   #399
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the number of players you either have on the roster or have made scholarship offers to is the number not in parenthesis, and the minimum number of players you need at that position is the number in parenthesis.
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:19 PM   #400
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the number of players you either have on the roster or have made scholarship offers to is the number not in parenthesis, and the minimum number of players you need at that position is the number in parenthesis.

am i stupid or something? is that like in the damm manuel?
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