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Old 04-29-2009, 03:02 PM   #751
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I'm not sure there's anything else we can do before the night deadline. I agree, if someone has an angle to thier skill they haven't revealed, maybe we could cook something up. Otherwise I can't imagine what we can do differently. We can hope that maybe succeeding on some of the tasks gives us something.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:04 PM   #752
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Going all on the mission seems kind of crazy to me. Sure, yesterday it woudl have worked out. But today we would have lost a camp (which not only costs us a day but may have other bad effects) and gained some unknown number of unknown items. Some of them would be in wolf hands, most likely, and we wouldn't know who was lying about gaining one or not, who was lying about what their items did.

Most likely there was a limited number of items and so some limit to how many people it would be useful to send. I don't see any reason to ever blow off the camp jobs completely. It seems contrary to the purpose of the game and our winning conditions.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:05 PM   #753
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:05 PM   #754
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The wolves purposely used their action after the mission. I really think the wolves wanted to avoid having us all go on the mission and instead focus on work. That's why I am looking at Barkeep. He voiced against those who went on the mission early and completely ignored my idea and started the run on everyone working.

After we head that direction, I'm sure villagers joined in making sure everyone worked because at that point it was the right call.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:06 PM   #755
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Ok I pulled a Schmidty and completely skipped reading pages 13 and 14, as I will never be caught up otherwise. I feel like so much of the information is out of our hands and in control of the wolves. I think there are whole mechanics at play that we have no real clue about and it makes figuring out WTF is going on pretty damn difficult.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:07 PM   #756
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The wolves purposely used their action after the mission. I really think the wolves wanted to avoid having us all go on the mission and instead focus on work. That's why I am looking at Barkeep. He voiced against those who went on the mission early and completely ignored my idea and started the run on everyone working.

After we head that direction, I'm sure villagers joined in making sure everyone worked because at that point it was the right call.
By the time I did my work, two others had done so. I become vocally less enamored of the missions yesterday based on the results. Winning the camps is essential to winning the game and that's where my focus is. If you don't like it, you're going to have a chance to kill me tomorrow.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:09 PM   #757
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By the time I did my work, two others had done so. I become vocally less enamored of the missions yesterday based on the results. Winning the camps is essential to winning the game and that's where my focus is. If you don't like it, you're going to have a chance to kill me tomorrow.

But I thought you knew that ahead of time and you switched gears pretty quickly. And there was definite upside to us all going on the mission and potentially getting an item.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:09 PM   #758
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Obviously, since he is not here, he will be unable to work, whether he comes back or not

can we bust him out?
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:12 PM   #759
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can we bust him out?

This isn;t the wild west and you aren't doing illegal things just to do them. You want to break out an arsonist with picks and shovels? That's wrong on so many levels.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:13 PM   #760
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Yeah but it'd be fun.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:14 PM   #761
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so it looks like there is no possible way to win the camp. We really get no info either because we have no idea if someones fake work order caused us to fail. Kind of crappy IMO
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:14 PM   #762
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The wolves purposely used their action after the mission. I really think the wolves wanted to avoid having us all go on the mission and instead focus on work. That's why I am looking at Barkeep. He voiced against those who went on the mission early and completely ignored my idea and started the run on everyone working.

After we head that direction, I'm sure villagers joined in making sure everyone worked because at that point it was the right call.

I'm not sure I'm following your thinking here, so let me see if I've got it straight. You think the Sympathizers knew they could keep us from completing our camp work today regardless of how many went on the mission. Therefore they wanted us to stay away from the mission so we didn't collect any items. Is that right?
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:16 PM   #763
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Ok I pulled a Schmidty and completely skipped reading pages 13 and 14, as I will never be caught up otherwise. I feel like so much of the information is out of our hands and in control of the wolves. I think there are whole mechanics at play that we have no real clue about and it makes figuring out WTF is going on pretty damn difficult.

I agree and it makes it very frustrating.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:19 PM   #764
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Should we maybe still be smart and line up our actions as well as possible? I'd still like to get an idea of what a failed mission gives us, information-wise.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:22 PM   #765
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I think we should make sure we've got the right amount on two of the jobs. I'm not sure that it matters which.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:24 PM   #766
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I'm not sure I'm following your thinking here, so let me see if I've got it straight. You think the Sympathizers knew they could keep us from completing our camp work today regardless of how many went on the mission. Therefore they wanted us to stay away from the mission so we didn't collect any items. Is that right?

Yes
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:30 PM   #767
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Well, that doesn't make me suspicious of Barkeep then, it makes me suspicious of the Searchers who wouldn't switch back onto the jobs when it was obvious we had only a one unit surplus there. If they had switched back we would have still made the camp.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:32 PM   #768
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I'm sorry I didn't switch back but 1 person seemingly wouldn't have made a difference anyways.. I'd like to hear from my fellow searchers.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:33 PM   #769
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I suppose you're right, Danny, though that it's better for the wolves if we try to win both the mission and the camp and then fail on the camp. Still, if I was a wolf I wouldn't have protested too much about your plan since I think it still suits them fairly well. They have a chance of picking up a few items themselves and the villagers give them a free day.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:39 PM   #770
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A yellow dog contract is one in which a clause makes it illegal for the worker to join a union. Yellow dog contracts were the default contracts of all mines in WV.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:39 PM   #771
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I suppose you're right, Danny, though that it's better for the wolves if we try to win both the mission and the camp and then fail on the camp. Still, if I was a wolf I wouldn't have protested too much about your plan since I think it still suits them fairly well. They have a chance of picking up a few items themselves and the villagers give them a free day.

That's true
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:40 PM   #772
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BTW, am I the only one skipping the grey posts and trying to learn as little as possible?
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:42 PM   #773
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RendeR and Poli really haven't said anything since they joined the mission, have they. Input guys?
:Waves:
Will input as soon as I'm finished catching up.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:48 PM   #774
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That's true

Still, having 13-15 villagers running around with weapons or other items probably was a bit scary to the wolves.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:49 PM   #775
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This isn;t the wild west and you aren't doing illegal things just to do them. You want to break out an arsonist with picks and shovels? That's wrong on so many levels.
How about a shotgun that I found? Would that turn the tables?
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:49 PM   #776
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That's right, gentleman. Poli found a gun.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:50 PM   #777
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True. Although we're as likely to stab each other than do much useful.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:50 PM   #778
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:51 PM   #779
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Bet I won't be the object of a night kill now. Bring it, sympathizers.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:51 PM   #780
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That's great, Poli. I don't know what the item description is, but I know that any of us Hunters can get a bonus on our skills if we have a gun. Hopefully something tomorrow will play into that.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:51 PM   #781
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I know a hunter could definitely use that!
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:52 PM   #782
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A yellow dog contract is one in which a clause makes it illegal for the worker to join a union. Yellow dog contracts were the default contracts of all mines in WV.
As much as I joked about this stuff early on, it does remind me of my labor law class I took a few years back. Probably half the class was dealing with the history of unions in the US. I definitely remember the yellow dog contracts part.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:53 PM   #783
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Yeah, I figure I'm likely to have to hand it over...but it can be used in defense of night kills, I knowz that!
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:53 PM   #784
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Wait, abe speak:

I noes that.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:54 PM   #785
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Poli's got a gun
Poli's got a gun
His whole worlds come undone
From looking straight at the sun
When did his Dubb93 do?
What did he put you through?
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:55 PM   #786
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Based on my PM, which thanks a lot Abe for choosing the subject "SHOTGUN"...my initial reaction is I'm getting a shotgun question or someone pulled a shotgun on me.

I digress. Based on the PM, I think there's another skill out there that I haven't seen listed...patrolling.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:55 PM   #787
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Messed up the one lyric so reposted since I couldn't edit
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:56 PM   #788
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Poli's got a gun
Poli's got a gun
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When did his Dubb93 do?
What did he put you through?



Knowing what that song is about...eew.

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Old 04-29-2009, 03:57 PM   #789
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I think you need to do some catching up, Poli. lol
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:01 PM   #790
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Why's that? I thought I was all caught up. Are there secret threads I don't know about?
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:08 PM   #791
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USFL and ChiefRum are both specialists in Patrolling and thus did all the Patrolling work today.
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:15 PM   #792
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Also, Poli, you missed the whole couple of hours where we were deliberating the merit of having anyone on the mission at all.
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:56 PM   #793
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Poli's got a gun
Poli's got a gun
His whole worlds come undone
From looking straight at the sun
What did his Dubb93 do?
What did he put you through?

They say when EF was arrested
They found him underneath a train
But man he had it comin
Now that poli's got a gun
*SHE* ain't never gonna be the sa...aaaaa..aaaaaaaaaaaaaa....aaaaaammmmmmeee
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:02 PM   #794
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I would have liked the wolves abilities kinda spelled out b/c had we known they had day abilities such as the arrest we may have choosen a different strategy.

With all that said I wonder at what point the wolves attempt to bribe(and where exactly they get the money at). Also anything else they could do with that money?
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:02 PM   #795
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Alrighty folks. I'm outta here.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:03 PM   #796
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BTW, am I the only one skipping the grey posts and trying to learn as little as possible?

I'm not skipping them, but I do get annoyed when I see there's a new post at a time with a lot of tension, and find one of them. :P

Anyway, Poli, is your shotgun only useful for patrolling? I'm just wondering if 'shotgun' is different from the 'gun' that Autumn, TheNorm, and I can use.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:03 PM   #797
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I also wonder how the bribe process works and what percentage of us have low bribe points compared to the ones who are immune.

If it fails could we ID a wolf?
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:37 PM   #798
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I'm not skipping them, but I do get annoyed when I see there's a new post at a time with a lot of tension, and find one of them. :P

Anyway, Poli, is your shotgun only useful for patrolling? I'm just wondering if 'shotgun' is different from the 'gun' that Autumn, TheNorm, and I can use.
Patrolling, hunting, and defense against night kills.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:38 PM   #799
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Also, Poli, you missed the whole couple of hours where we were deliberating the merit of having anyone on the mission at all.
I wouldn't say I "missed" it.

Oops, wrong game.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:42 PM   #800
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Patrolling, hunting, and defense against night kills.

Gotcha. Pretty weird, since all the hunters have mentioned guns, but I'd never heard the patrollers say anything about it. Could just be that we're a more talkative bunch, I guess.
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