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Old 07-02-2006, 09:39 PM   #51
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...LOL

is it better, though, to start a league with the financial models turned off? for career play?
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Old 07-02-2006, 10:01 PM   #52
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What's nice is that you can adjust the financials in-game.

For example, if you feel like a particular city has too much money (or not enough), you can easily edit it.
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Old 07-03-2006, 08:39 AM   #53
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where do I extract Wrightwings facepack to, to get the pictures to show up in game?
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Old 07-03-2006, 08:47 AM   #54
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Can you start PureSim with an expansion team - current day?

For instance, adding 2 teams to make both leagues have equal teams and then I take over 1 of those expansion teams?
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Old 07-03-2006, 08:54 AM   #55
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Sometimes I just don't get people buying games. Are you telling there's a difference, from a buyer's perspective, between $15 and $30?!?!? That's a $15 difference which is the price of one and half movies, a case of beer or a half to a third a tank of gas. Most of us waste that much in a short amount of time and we quibble over a relatively few dollars for something that potentially give us comparatively much more in return?

Yes there is. Relative value. Some people may see the game and say, yes its a good game, but to me it's only worth about $20. Others will say, yah it's worth $30 to me, so perfectly priced. Still others will say they are getting a bargain, because it is worth $50 to them. Its not about whether it can be afforded but what the value is for each person of such a game.

And then there are others who really didn't pay attention to PureSim until they saw $14.99.
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Old 07-03-2006, 09:21 AM   #56
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Can you start PureSim with an expansion team - current day?

For instance, adding 2 teams to make both leagues have equal teams and then I take over 1 of those expansion teams?

I haven't looked at that, but I don't think so. The expansion in the game is pretty good, but I think that when you get to expanding to more then the current amount of teams you have to take a big jump, something like going to 38 or 40 teams. I could be wrong, I haven't looked at that high in the expansion yet as I am in the 30's in my career.

And when you expand, you can't control the new team until AFTER the expansion draft. Kind of a downer but at the same time I find it a challenge when taking over one of these teams.
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:37 AM   #57
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where do I extract Wrightwings facepack to, to get the pictures to show up in game?

You extract the folder for each decade into the PureSim Baseball 2007/mods/faces directory.
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:38 AM   #58
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I haven't looked at that, but I don't think so. The expansion in the game is pretty good, but I think that when you get to expanding to more then the current amount of teams you have to take a big jump, something like going to 38 or 40 teams. I could be wrong, I haven't looked at that high in the expansion yet as I am in the 30's in my career.

And when you expand, you can't control the new team until AFTER the expansion draft. Kind of a downer but at the same time I find it a challenge when taking over one of these teams.

Yep, correct on both accounts. Shaun has had some requests for improving the scope of the expansion feature, but it sounds like it won't be an easy change.
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:47 PM   #59
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Shaun has had some requests for improving the scope of the expansion feature, but it sounds like it won't be an easy change.

Along with that, I just discovered my first real "I wish" with the game -- I wish that if a team relocates, the league history would retain the name of the team as played rather than as relabeling them with their new identity.
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:53 PM   #60
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Yes there is. Relative value. Some people may see the game and say, yes its a good game, but to me it's only worth about $20. Others will say, yah it's worth $30 to me, so perfectly priced. Still others will say they are getting a bargain, because it is worth $50 to them. Its not about whether it can be afforded but what the value is for each person of such a game.

And then there are others who really didn't pay attention to PureSim until they saw $14.99.

Some of us are poor, so every penny helps. For me to drop 30 bucks on a game, it had better be good, especially when there are bunches of cheaper options out there in the bargain bin for 20.
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Old 07-03-2006, 01:02 PM   #61
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I just picked it up this morning thanks to the price drop. Only problem I have with it so far is runner advancement is a little screwy, im seeing a ton of station to station plays even with 2 outs. And runners being throw out when tagging up, even guys with 90+ speed.
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Old 07-03-2006, 01:47 PM   #62
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I just picked it up this morning thanks to the price drop. Only problem I have with it so far is runner advancement is a little screwy, im seeing a ton of station to station plays even with 2 outs. And runners being throw out when tagging up, even guys with 90+ speed.


Did you install beta patch 1.18?
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Old 07-03-2006, 01:54 PM   #63
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No, but I also didn't see anything on the list regarding this issue.
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:02 PM   #64
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No, but I also didn't see anything on the list regarding this issue.

Try it.

No one has complain about it anymore since the latest patch.
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:12 PM   #65
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...Where can i get the official patches?

Matrix's site isn't designed in a particularly intuitive fashion, and there doesn't seem to be a link to anything besides the beta patch in the forums...

EDIT: Nevermind, found it. I had to dig through news items.

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Old 07-03-2006, 02:14 PM   #66
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...Where can i get the official patches?

Matrix's site isn't designed in a particularly intuitive fashion, and there doesn't seem to be a link to anything besides the beta patch in the forums...


Just beta patch 1.18 is the latest that you will need. Shaun said its very sable.

After a few more beta patches, then an official patch release will come out in a couple of weeks.
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:23 PM   #67
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What's the latest patch out for this game? I haven't played in a couple of weeks, and I just want to make sure I'm up to speed.
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:26 PM   #68
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What's the latest patch out for this game? I haven't played in a couple of weeks, and I just want to make sure I'm up to speed.

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Old 07-03-2006, 02:35 PM   #69
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What's the latest patch out for this game? I haven't played in a couple of weeks, and I just want to make sure I'm up to speed.


Look above your post.

Beta patch 1.18
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:44 PM   #70
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I think Pumpy Tudors just got pwned by jbmagic.
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:46 PM   #71
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...Where can i get the official patches?

Matrix's site isn't designed in a particularly intuitive fashion, and there doesn't seem to be a link to anything besides the beta patch in the forums...

EDIT: Nevermind, found it. I had to dig through news items.

jeez, where the heck is it?
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:47 PM   #72
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I think Pumpy Tudors just got pwned by jbmagic.

That's pretty rough.
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:51 PM   #73
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I think Pumpy Tudors just got pwned by jbmagic.

i don't think so

jb made like 3 or 4 references to the latest patch in the two puresim threads and then pumpy comes in and asks what the latest patch is

hilarity ensues
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:51 PM   #74
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jeez, where the heck is it?

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1170905
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:58 PM   #75
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i don't think so

jb made like 3 or 4 references to the latest patch in the two puresim threads and then pumpy comes in and asks what the latest patch is

hilarity ensues


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Old 07-03-2006, 02:59 PM   #76
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Old 07-03-2006, 03:41 PM   #77
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Try it.

No one has complain about it anymore since the latest patch.

And how long has it been out?
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Old 07-03-2006, 05:37 PM   #78
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And how long has it been out?

1.18 came out 10 days ago I believe.

And no, I don't see that specifically listed as a fix/tweak in any of the beta patches since 1.1 came out. I thought it was there too though until I checked. I might have confused it with steal home being fixed...i dunno.
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Old 07-03-2006, 08:53 PM   #79
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Is there a way to adjust the trading difficulty? I started in 1995 as the Seattle Mariners, and now I currently have this roster:

CF Ken Griffey Jr.
SS Alex Rodriquez
LF Barry Bonds
1B Mark McQuire (Signed Free Agent)
RF Jay Buhner
3B Edgar Martinez
DH Tino Martinez
C Dan Wilson
2b Joey Cora

Reserves:
C Casanova
IF Wade Boggs
IF Derek Jeter
OF Daryl Strawberry
IF Luis Sojo
OF Marc Newfield

Boggs and Strawberry are a little over the hill, but they both hit well last season. Strawberry hit .285 with 17 homers and Boggs hit .335. They both still have solid ratings and would start on a lot of teams.

Jeter is young, but hit .268 with 11 hrs last season and would have improved his numbers this year if I wasn't using him as a reserve. Cora is hitting .318, so it is tough to bench him.

Sojo and Newfield are space fillers.

So, I must have traded all my pitching in order to acquire Bonds, Strawberry, Boggs, and Jeter... No, I actually have improved my rotation more than my position players.

SP1 Randy Johnson
SP2 Pedro Martinez
SP3 John Smoltz
SP4 Curt Schilling
SP5 Danny Darwin (41 years old)

CL Bobby Ayala (R)
MR Greg Olson (R)
MR Justin Thompson (L)
MR Eric Gunderson (L)
MR Rafeal Carmona (long relief, starter if injury)

I also have three starters and a closer almost ready in AAA:
Roger Salkeld
Ramon Garcia
Jason Schmidt
Billy Wagner

I have Shawn Estes and Bob Wolcott in AA with Estes struggling but with tons of potential.

In 1995 (my first season after purchasing Puresim) the Mariners won 108 games but didn't have the starting pitchers to beat Cleveland in the playoffs.

I added Big Mac and 4 new starters (only Randy Johnson returns from the 95 season) for 1996. Am I missing a setting that allows trade difficulty to be adjusted?
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Old 07-03-2006, 08:55 PM   #80
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I see no issue with the ability to sign this guy named Mark McQuire.
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Old 07-03-2006, 08:58 PM   #81
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I see no issue with the ability to sign this guy named Mark McQuire.


Oops. I meant Mark Mcgwire.
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Old 07-03-2006, 09:37 PM   #82
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Old 07-03-2006, 09:53 PM   #83
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re: mgadfly's Seattle roster -- I had already figured out how easily a set of superstars could be collected just from a couple of days with the demo last week. I swear, if I didn't know better, I'd be starting to think that PS was basically Mogul with a different name (and perhaps more realistic stat outputs).
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:30 PM   #84
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re: mgadfly's Seattle roster -- I had already figured out how easily a set of superstars could be collected just from a couple of days with the demo last week. I swear, if I didn't know better, I'd be starting to think that PS was basically Mogul with a different name (and perhaps more realistic stat outputs).


I'm going to have to go with some major self-imposed limitations. In my second season I'm 25 games ahead of California in the AL West. California is the third best team in the majors behind us and Cleveland.

In August I lost 0-10 to Cleveland, won the next 25 games, and then lost 4-7 to Oakland on the last day of the month. Ohh so close to the perfect month!
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:41 PM   #85
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I don't know how to mess with the xml, but here is my line-up entering September:

CF Ken Griffey Jr. .357 43 hr 128 rbi 53 sb (caught 9 times)
SS Alex Rodriguez .303 43 hr 122 rbi 44 sb (caught 6 times)
LF Barry Bonds .326 56 hr 160 rbi 22 sb
1B Mark Mcgwire .373 81 hr 182 rbi
RF Jay Buhner .340 58 hr 146 rbi
DH Tino Martinez .362 28 hr 63 rbi (only starts against RHP)
3B Edgar Martinez .277 33 hr 93 rbi
C Ivan Rodriguez .251 14 hr 55 rbi (picked up at trading deadline, splits with Dan Wilson)
2B Joey Cora .342 7 hr 52 rbi (having the season of his life) 20 sb

I'm using the Kingdome that came with the game.

My rotation:
Randy Johnson 21-1 4.09 era
John Smoltz 17-2 3.21 era
Curt Schilling 15-4 3.61 era
Pedro Martinez 18-5 3.40 era
Danny Darwin 13-1 3.59 era

The bullpen sucks, but I have a "very slow hook" and am giving 8+ runs per game in support of the pitchers.

On the bench I have:
Jeter .275 5 hr
Wilson .264 7 hr
Strawberry .292 9 hr
Boggs & Nixon haven't had enough at bats this season to really report on.

If Griffey and AROD can have 7 hrs in September/October, I'll probably have 2 guys with 50-50 seasons.

Overall I like this game and am playing it rather than OOTP, but it looks to be way too easy.
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:53 PM   #86
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mgadfly - any chance you can post the actual trades that you were able to pull off? If there's a problem in the AI trade logic, I'd love for Shaun to be able to tweak it for an upcoming patch. The only way to help him though is to provide some solid examples of bad AI decisions.

Things to note:

- Are you playing with finances on or off?

- What were the ratings and general stats of the players involved?

- If the finances are on, was the AI team in a rebuilding mode, actively looking to drop payroll?

- Did the AI team benefit at all from the trade, or was it really a one sided deal?

Lastly, it worth noting that when playing historical associations the human player has a HUGE advantage as they know the relative career arc that the player will take. The AI just sees the ratings and is handicapped. This is a big reason why it's harder to be as successful in a fictional league on a consistent basis.
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Old 07-04-2006, 03:53 AM   #87
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mgadfly - any chance you can post the actual trades that you were able to pull off? If there's a problem in the AI trade logic, I'd love for Shaun to be able to tweak it for an upcoming patch. The only way to help him though is to provide some solid examples of bad AI decisions.

Things to note:

- Are you playing with finances on or off?

- What were the ratings and general stats of the players involved?

- If the finances are on, was the AI team in a rebuilding mode, actively looking to drop payroll?

- Did the AI team benefit at all from the trade, or was it really a one sided deal?

Lastly, it worth noting that when playing historical associations the human player has a HUGE advantage as they know the relative career arc that the player will take. The AI just sees the ratings and is handicapped. This is a big reason why it's harder to be as successful in a fictional league on a consistent basis.

I'll post the specific trades once I have a chance to go back through them all. I haven't played the playoffs yet, but here are the numbers for my guys after the end of the regular season:

CF Griffey Jr. .355 55 hr 149 rbi 62 sb
SS AROD .322 60 169 52
LF B. Bonds .326 59 166 23 (missed 6 weeks due to injury)
1B Mcgwire .375 104 235 0 (yes, 104 hrs, 235 rbi)
RF Buhner .328 73 174 0
3B Edgar M. .287 39 107 0
DH Tino M. .331 32 74 0
C Pudge .248 18 66 4
2B Cora .319 9 57 21

OF Strawberry .277 15 38 0
IF D. Jeter .286 8 36 9
C D. Wilson .260 7 37 0
OF O. Nixon .235 1 1 4
IF W. Boggs -- -- -- --

SP R. Johnson 26-1 3.79 264 k
SP P. Martinez 22-6 3.66 234
SP J. Smoltz 20-3 3.54 205
SP C. Schilling 20-5 3.72 197
SP B. Darwin 13-1 3.54 95 (missed big chunk of season due to injury)


Here are my trades (what do you think):

OF Marc Newfield 24 years old, 56 contact, 41 power, 50 eye, 37 sp, 27 pot, 1.8 M for 4 years
RHP Rafael Carmona 24 yrs, 76 stuff, 60 velocity, 67 control, 47 end, 2 yrs $3.4M, 38 pot
To Texas For
C Ivan Rodriguez 25 yrs, 77 con, 56 pow, 33 eye, 43 sp, 83 arm, 74 pot, 5.2 M for 3 yrs

The salary exchanged was about equal. However, I received a solid 25 year old catcher with the potential (74) to be a future all-star. Texas received a below average OF without the potential (27) to ever really be a contributor and a long relief guy that isn't bad, but doesn't have the potential to be anything more than MAYBE a 4th or 5th starter. It isn't horrible, but it was a pretty bad move by Texas.


TRADE 2:
LHP John Cummings 27 yrs, 77 stuff, 57 vel, 80 con, 17 end, 30 pot, 4.5 M for 4 yrs
TO YANKEES FOR
SS Derek Jeter 22 yrs, 76 con, 46 pow, 56 eye, 65 spd, 62-70-53 (def skills), 100 pot, $4.4M 4 yrs

Cummings is an okay relief pitcher that has posted a 6.70 era and 5.75 era in his first two seasons. He doesn't have the potential to develop into anything better than a left handed specialist, and probably isn't going to do that great of a job at it. Jeter already has the defense, contact, and speed to start for a number of teams at SS. In addition, he has the potential to be a superstar. The big reason why this is a HORRIBLE trade for the Yanks is that there were comparable middle relief guys available in the free agency pool. I traded for Jeter and then signed a nearly identical replacement to Cummings. (see LHP Eric Gunderson, 30 yrs, 80 stuff, 52 vel, 71 con, 22 pot)

Trade 3:
3B Mike Blowers, 31 yrs, 64-53-62-29 (Con-Pow-Eye-Spd) 1 pot, 3.6 M 2 yrs
RHP Todd Worrell, 37 yrs, 82-77-92-1 (Stuff-Vel-Con-End) 1 pot, 6.9 M 1 yr
LHP Ron Villone, 26 yrs, 87-76-66-17 79 pot, 1.8 M 2 yrs
TO Philadelphia FOR
RHP Curt Schilling 30 yrs, 88-78-92-72, 29 pot 10.7 M 3 yrs

I guess this isn't the worst trade. Blowers is a servicable, but old and declining 3B. I was glad to get rid of him, but he isn't bad. Worrell is solid, but expensive for a pitcher with no endurance and who is already 37 years old. I didn't care to lose either of the first two players. Villone was a tough loss since he is 26 years old, has a ton of potential, and is already a very solid left handed pitcher out of the bull pen. The other plus is that he is relatively cheap for the next 2 seasons. I'm not sure if Philly needed to get rid of salary or not, but they did relieve themselves of being committed to pay Schilling 10.7 million for 3 years. Still, I landed one of the best starters in the league for two players that didn't contribute and aren't much better than back-up quality players and Villone.


Trade 4:
LHP Dave Fleming 27 yrs, 70-43-64-68 34 pot 4.2 M 2 yrs
RHP Jeff Nelson 30 yrs, 86-86-78-14 16 pot 1.1 M 1 yr
To ATLANTA FOR
RHP John Smoltz 29 yrs, 89-77-88-75 10 pot 9.3 M 5 yrs

Atlanta won their division. Nelson is a middle reliever for them that finished with an excellent 3.76 era. Fleming is the teams 4th left-handed reliever and finished with a 6.15 era after being promoted from Atlanta's AAA after posting a 6.19 era there. Atlanta did manage to get rid of Smoltz's large contract, but he is one of the best starting pitchers in the league. Fleming is below average for a starter and will probably not last long in the league. The question here has to be whether Nelson for Smoltz is a fair trade. I don't think so, as Smoltz gives you everything Nelson does except he as a starter rather than a middle reliever.

Trade #5:
RHP Tim Belcher 35 yrs, 79-53-79-75 1 pot, 4.0 M 1 yr
RHP Bill Risley 29 yrs, 89-77-81-14 26 pot, 6.9 M 2 yrs
TO MONTREAL FOR
RHP Pedro Martinez 25 yrs 88-81-87-77 68 pot, 12.9 M 2 yrs

An average starter that is way over the hill and a solid reliever for a staff Ace with the potential to develop into a Cy Young winner. The salary demands for a single player might factor in, but Pedro is one of the best pitchers in the game.


I'm going to skip over a couple trades and get back to the Bonds trade...

C Chris Widger, 25 yrs, 51-55-49-42 35 arm 42 pot 2.5 for 4 yrs
LF Darren Bragg, 27 yrs, 65-44-70-49, 97 pot 4.5 for 3 yrs
RHP Bob Wells, 30 yrs, 79-59-81-31 40 pot 6.2 M 3 yrs
Traded To SAN FRANCISCO FOR
LF Barry Bonds 32 yrs, 72-74-95-73 1 pot 6.8 M for 4 yrs

This might have been the best deal for them because Darren Bragg may turn into an excellent LF. Widger and Wells are both pretty crappy, but Bragg gives them a chance to have a solid young left fielder for a number of seasons. Bonds however, is a legitimate star with great skills. He isn't getting any better, but his on base percentage, power, and speed make him one of the most valuable players in the league.
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Old 07-04-2006, 08:51 AM   #88
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You will always be able to "rip off" the CPU with multi player trades. The AI will only do 1 for 1 trades, therefore I've limited myself to 1 for 1 trades.

Also were you using the latest patch? Shaun has decreased the value of relief pitching in the trade engine.
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:58 AM   #89
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You will always be able to "rip off" the CPU with multi player trades. The AI will only do 1 for 1 trades, therefore I've limited myself to 1 for 1 trades.

Also were you using the latest patch? Shaun has decreased the value of relief pitching in the trade engine.

Yeah, once I restart a new career that will be the first limitation I put on myself. That still doesn't change the Jeter trade which doesn't make much sense, but it will help.

This was with Beta patch 1.18.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:08 AM   #90
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Here's the other part of that....when you know the guys and what they'll become you can play those kinds of trades....the computer doesn't know guy A from guy B other than the numbers. I'd like to see you do fictional league and see if you can get the same deals done.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:08 AM   #91
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Here's the other part of that....when you know the guys and what they'll become you can play those kinds of trades....the computer doesn't know guy A from guy B other than the numbers. I'd like to see you do fictional league and see if you can get the same deals done.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:11 AM   #92
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I'm using the beta patch 1.8 and I got several crashes yesterday while looking at stats and trying to bring up player cards.

Anyone else have such problems?
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:14 AM   #93
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Here's the other part of that....when you know the guys and what they'll become you can play those kinds of trades....the computer doesn't know guy A from guy B other than the numbers. I'd like to see you do fictional league and see if you can get the same deals done.

I agree that doing this in a fictional league would be more difficult since I would not be familiar with the players, but I still would have known that:

LHP John Doe 27 yrs, 77 stuff, 57 vel, 80 con, 17 end, 30 pot, 4.5 M for 4 yrs
TO YANKEES FOR
SS Jonathan Doe 22 yrs, 76 con, 46 pow, 56 eye, 65 spd, 62-70-53 (def skills), 100 pot, $4.4M 4 yrs


would be a good deal. The relief pitcher above is very average and his potential showed that he probably isn't ever going to be better than average (these guys are available as unsigned free agents through most of the season). The SS with his 100 potential and already above average ratings at age 22, regardless of whether his name was Derek Jeter or not, was a steal and the computer should not have gone for it.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:15 AM   #94
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And has anyone seen someone hit 104 home runs in a season? Is there a fix?
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:26 AM   #95
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And has anyone seen someone hit 104 home runs in a season? Is there a fix?

Never seen it. I have not seen any out of control numbers like that. Adjust your sliders I guess.

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I'm using the beta patch 1.8 and I got several crashes yesterday while looking at stats and trying to bring up player cards.

Anyone else have such problems?

Do you use IE 7 beta or whatever it is? The game has problems for people who use that browser. I fix is coming in the next patch.
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Old 07-04-2006, 02:52 PM   #96
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Allright, i bit and bought it. Couldn't beat the price.Mostly a wonderful experience. Easily beating out ootp. Now I have a couple of questions.

I started a league in 1900 with real players. Does this game have expansion?

I also started another league using 2006 as a template with real players. The season ran about 2 hrs. After that I ran off-season. Any Idea why it took 5+hrs to go through the offseason? I have a P41.7 w/512mb ram.
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Old 07-04-2006, 02:56 PM   #97
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Yes, it does have expansion if you have the 1.1 patch. You must enable it in the options and it prompts you if you want to expand after the free agency period.
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Allright, i bit and bought it. Couldn't beat the price.Mostly a wonderful experience. Easily beating out ootp. Now I have a couple of questions.

I started a league in 1900 with real players. Does this game have expansion?

I also started another league using 2006 as a template with real players. The season ran about 2 hrs. After that I ran off-season. Any Idea why it took 5+hrs to go through the offseason? I have a P41.7 w/512mb ram.

1) Yes there is expansion. It will ask you if you want to expand every year, after the finalize rosters stage.

2) Not sure why it would take so long for you. My computer is poop compared to that and it doesn't take anywhere near that. The almanac building takes a while, but I have a 30 year career too so not much I can do about that.
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Old 07-04-2006, 03:44 PM   #99
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1) Yes there is expansion. It will ask you if you want to expand every year, after the finalize rosters stage.

2) Not sure why it would take so long for you. My computer is poop compared to that and it doesn't take anywhere near that. The almanac building takes a while, but I have a 30 year career too so not much I can do about that.


thanks, I guess I wont run it seasons at a time so i can play with expansion.
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:13 PM   #100
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I have been playing with a fictional universe and have not had the same amount of poor trades, but I am still a little worried about how easy this game is.

I took over Tampa Bay in 2012. In 2011 they were the worst team in the league losing 109 games. They had one quality player (a veteran CF) and pretty much nothing else (a couple young prospects and one solid starting pitcher).

In 2012 I went 89-73 finishing 1 game behind Seattle for the wild card. It wasn't so much my inability to get talent that prevented me from getting to the playoffs as it was my very modest budget (4th from the bottom) and the fact that a number of computer run teams couldn't make trades they were otherwise willing to make because they were already strapped for cash. The only teams that I was really able to trade with was New York and Boston (each had about $30M in free finances).

Our offense went from 23rd ranked to 1st and our defense went from 30th ranked to 20th. I have six or seven solid starters, but no bullpen at all. If the catcher I traded for hadn't turned out to be a bust (I replaced him with a rookie at the trading deadline) I probably would have won the East.

What I like about Puresim:
* Better than previous versions
* Ability to use varying scales of ratings (I think in the past PS only allowed 1-100 ratings, which I hate)
* the Almanac
* The magazine
* The little ball on games that you coach yourself (I love it compared to pure text)

What I don't like:
* Speed (the free agency is horrible! Each week takes forever on my computer)
* Salaries (the spread seems off to me as mediocre players often times demand more money than I think they do in real life)
* Trading (in order to make it work you must come up with a set of home rules. This reminds me of playing previous versions of OOTP where I would have a ton of rules about when I'm able to make a trade. For me, the fun is building a team, and without trading working right it kind of ruins most of the game)
* No Back Button (at first I didn't like the browser feel to OOTP this year, but I love being able to push "back" instead of having to find that page again.)
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