Breakout Kings: Werewolf Style (Game over - village wins) - Page 16

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 05:35 AM

If it weren't for his 4th vote on GE, tying it up post reveal to make it 4-4 when he could have gone julio or chubby, I would have said Zinto was someone to look at. After an early departure last game, I wouldn't think he'd be so quiet this game.
Unless he was trying to protect the cunning by sacrificing the brutal.
That seems a longshot though.

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 05:40 AM

Britrock and Danny were my other thoughts to look today.
Both have voting issues and post issues.

Danny just seems off like he's in a haze going "huh? werewolf? What do I do?" I don't totally buy that. Of course he always says he's not good at being a wolf.

The mysteries after that are Chief and Pass. Both are posting and contributing but not much info about them. Chubby on the other hand. Just weird. I guess he was trying to draw out bhlloy who he thought was guilty. I GUESS that's why he didn't vote GE? Granted he didn't know GE was a wolf. But why did he leave his vote on b. Guess he was in that oldschool mind that b should move to GE immediately because that's how he SHOULD play when bhlloy doesn't play that way.

Narcizo · 05-23-2012, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

And there really isn't anything odd about his presence. He was almost certainly guarded last night, so the wolves went another direction. I think bhlloy is telling the truth.

Why didn't they just brutal kill him for the conversion? Maybe the wolves didn't realise that Charlie was already out. I mean, I didn't. But you'd have thought one would make that connection.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Why didn't they just brutal kill him for the conversion? Maybe the wolves didn't realise that Charlie was already out. I mean, I didn't. But you'd have thought one would make that connection.

Actually, that's a good point. Since I wasnt around I forgot about the brutal. I guess they thought he might have been someone who was still going to be targeted, but really, if it was me, I would have brutalized him as a wolf.

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 05:45 AM

I still don't get Ronnie.

From the rules:
"Ronnie Marcum - You are a psychopath that serves only himself. You may become a runner if the need arises but at the start you are a convicted citizen who is viewed as a hero by many. Only you will know your win conditions."

"Starting as a convicted Citizen". That sounded to me like villager UNTIL he's converted, but someone disagreed I can't remember who. Was thinking wolves were scanning for him but maybe he just opos into wolf mode randomly? or maybe at a predetermined event like in Chubby's Cube game.

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 05:46 AM

Narc, who sasys that the Autumn and LSG submissions weren't already submitted hours before and just weren't changed?

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 05:47 AM

I was really waiting for Autumn to go sooner or now. And if he didn't I'd be suspicious, like...oh...who else would fit that category....hmmmm *whistles*

Danny · 05-23-2012, 05:49 AM

Vote Chief

Narcizo · 05-23-2012, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Actually, that's a good point. Since I wasnt around I forgot about the brutal. I guess they thought he might have been someone who was still going to be targeted, but really, if it was me, I would have brutalized him as a wolf.

But there's really no point chasing this so sorry for harping on. If the seer doesn't reveal today and Bhlloy isn't dead tonight then he'll be getting the shifty eye tomorrow. Re-reading LoneStarGirl's post about Bhlloy possibly faking it, it certainly does like she got a message and presumed that Bhlloy was the sender, so this is a blind alley.

Which brings me back to Britrock and his amazing piggyback voting yesterday.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 05:50 AM

For today, I like Chief, Julio and Britrock to be the top vote getters. For now I think we lay off bhlloy as we still have time to get him if lying.

Narcizo · 05-23-2012, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I was really waiting for Autumn to go sooner or now. And if he didn't I'd be suspicious, like...oh...who else would fit that category....hmmmm *whistles*

JAG? The bodyguard? Is it one of them? Is it?

Danny · 05-23-2012, 05:52 AM

unvote chief
vote britrock

Danny · 05-23-2012, 05:54 AM

SO far in order of trust, I think the following are villagers

Chubby
Jackal
CrimsonFox
Narcizo
Zinto

Danny · 05-23-2012, 05:55 AM

Still reviewing, but at this point I'd bet our two wolves are between britrock, Chief, Julio and Pass, with a slight chance at Narc

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I was really waiting for Autumn to go sooner or now. And if he didn't I'd be suspicious, like...oh...who else would fit that category....hmmmm *whistles*

I'm talking about Danny. As in..."why is Danny still alive?" That Danny

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 05:58 AM

The elephant in the room (he HAS been eating an awful lot lately)

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 05:58 AM

how about coprock?

Danny · 05-23-2012, 05:59 AM

Relooked over what happened yesterday. Britrock is a wolf, book it

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:00 AM

His wolf partner is probably Pass and maybe Chief, I also think this means Narc is a villager

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Vote Chief

Something we can analyze now actually now that we know GE was bad and certain people were good. Was there an effort to save either Chief or Chubby when they were getting lots of lots yesterday.

Narcizo · 05-23-2012, 06:01 AM

Oi! Why not Zinto as he's under me on your trust list?

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:02 AM

Based on objective means I probably am in the list of suspects as well based on my play day 1 and 2, especially since I do now think bh and julio are villagers.

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 06:02 AM

I really do think britrock is a wolf. But now that Autumn is good it would mean, who chose JAG as the first kill?

I wouldn't think either brit or GE would. I cannot remember how often JAG and GE have played together and if GE would know how good JAG is except maybe from the last game people saying it.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:03 AM

There is a third wolf Crimson. If its Chief or Pass, they both know how good Jag is

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:03 AM

btw, Julio could still be the convert, but I dont think he was a starting wolf.

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Based on objective means I probably am in the list of suspects as well based on my play day 1 and 2, especially since I do now think bh and julio are villagers.

I'm of the thinking that the brutal/nk targets were already sent in before the gangbang on GE and just too much confusion to change.

The only other thought for LSG was that she was going after julio hard and if julio is a villager that would "make julio look bad" type of play

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:04 AM

Narc, I actually think it's likely there were no wolves on to try and save GE. Britrock was already locked it and I think the other wolf being Pass or CR never did get online.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I'm of the thinking that the brutal/nk targets were already sent in before the gangbang on GE and just too much confusion to change.

I think so too which leads me to suspect Chief or Pass as the third wolf.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:06 AM

Day 1 voting

Darth Vilus 5 - Jackal (80), Chubby (131), britrock (221), bhlloy (224), Passacaglia (253)
Danny 3 - Chief Rum (103), Julio Ridols (178) GoldenEagle (229)
Narcizo 4 - LSG (132), Zinto (187), CrimsonFox(227), Autumn (268)
Julio Ridols 2 - Danny (157), JAG (255)
Bhlloy 2 - Narcizo (109)
The Jackal 1 - Darth Vilus (108)

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:07 AM

Look at britrocks vote right there on DV. Since I believe Jackal and Chubby and bh at this point are all villagers, his day one vote looks real bad as well.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:07 AM

Also, not sure GE puts a vote on me if another wolf was already there. That leads me away from Chief a little (and Julio as well).

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:09 AM

I also want to see if GE was around near deadline on day 1. If he is, I think that puts more trust on Narcizo as well as it would be awfully risky for him to leave his vote on me and not put it on DV

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 06:10 AM

Votes on you Danny could actually be explained.
Chief's vote: being a smartass
Julio's vote: new and doesn't know you
GE: The wolf vote.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:11 AM

Hmm Pass' vote was also on me before he switched to DV, that would mean GE and Pass went boom boom on me day 1. Seems risky as wolves especially if they were not going to nk me at all

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 06:13 AM

Pass's end of day shenagigans are just that. LIke last game. He's done it so many times it could be either wolf or villager.

Chief was joining in with me arguing with Chubby. Could that have been a trust-creating situation for him? Hell this is why I hate CHief. I can never read him.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:15 AM

I take it back on Narc, I have a gut feeling he is trying to bury brit now as his fellow wolf and Brit and Narc are the last two

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:15 AM

Looking at day 1 really does not put Narc in a good light, especially if Brit is also a wolf.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:16 AM

For one, I believe all four voters on Narc are villagers. We know a wolf voted me and we Britrock voted Darth. Tough to believe there wouldnt have been a wolf on Narc

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:17 AM

But there were certain events in the vote pattern that really ping me

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:17 AM

Day One

#59 04:03 Narcizo votes Passacaglia (1)
#60 05:32 JAG votes bhlloy (1)
#68 06:56 JAG unvotes bhlloy (0)
#68 06:56 JAG votes Narcizo (1)
#72 07:02 Danny votes bhlloy (1)
#80 07:35 Jackal votes Darth Vilus (1)
#88 08:44 Britrock votes CrimsonFox (1)
#91 09:31 CrimsonFox votes Narcizo (2)
#96 11:20 Bhlloy votes Julio (1)
#98 12:09 Julio votes Jackal (1)
#103 13:16 Chief Rum votes Danny (1)

#108 14:37 Darth Vilus votes Jackal (2)
#109 15:02 Narcizo unvotes Passacaglia (0)
#109 15:02 Narcizo votes Bhlloy (2)
#110 15:04 LoneStarGirl votes Jackal (3)
#117 15:16 LoneStarGirl unvotes Jackal (2)
#131 17:00 Chubby votes Darth Vilus (2)
#132 17:11 LoneStarGirl votes Narcizo (3)
#133 17:26 JAG unvotes Narcizo (2)
#133 17:26 JAG votes Julio (2)
#138 18:04 Passacaglia votes Danny (2)

#144 19:00 Autumn votes Julio (3)
#152 19:19 Zinto votes Bhlloy (3)
#156 19:33 Julio unvotes Jackal (1)
#156 19:33 Julio votes Bhlloy (4)
#157 19:37 Danny unvotes Bhlloy (3)
#157 19:37 Danny votes Julio (4)
#176 20:39 Julio unvotes Bhlloy (2)
#176 20:39 Julio votes Danny (3)
#178 20:41 JAG unvotes Julio (3)
#187 20:55 Zinto unvotes Bhlloy (1)
#187 20:55 Zinto votes Narcizo (3)
#188 20:56 Bhlloy unvotes Julio (2)
#188 20:56 Bhlloy votes CrimsonFox (2)

#196 21:13 JAG votes Bhlloy (2)
#197 21:15 CrimsonFox unvotes Narcizo (2)
#197 21:15 CrimsonFox votes Bhlloy (3)
#199 21:15 Britrock unvotes CrimsonFox (1)
#221 21:32 Britrock votes Darth Vilus (3)
#224 21:34 Bhlloy unvotes Crimson Fox (1)
#224 21:34 Bhlloy votes Darth Vilus (4)
#226 21:36 CrimsonFox unvotes Bhlloy (2)
#226 21:36 CrimsonFox votes Narcizo (3)
#229 21:39 GoldenEagle votes Danny (4)
#253 21:52 Passa unvotes Danny (3)
#253 21:52 Passa votes Darth Vilus (5)
#255 21:53 JAG unvotes Bhlloy (2)
#255 21:53 JAG votes Julio (3)
#268 21:57 Autumn unvotes Julio (2)
#268 21:57 Autumn votes Narcizo (4)

Darth Vilus 5 - Jackal (80), Chubby (131), britrock (221), bhlloy (224), Passacaglia (253)
Danny 3 - Chief Rum (103), Julio Ridols (178) GoldenEagle (229)
Narcizo 4 - LSG (132), Zinto (187), CrimsonFox(227), Autumn (268)
Julio Ridols 2 - Danny (157), JAG (255)
Bhlloy 2 - Narcizo (109)
The Jackal 1 - Darth Vilus (108)

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:19 AM

When GoldenEagle voted me, it was right after someone put a 3rd vote on Narc, making it DV 4, Narc 3 and Danny 3. He then swung a vote over to me, making it DV 4, Danny 4 and Narc 3. Looks like he was trying to make sure Narc wasn't one of the top two candidates.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:20 AM

I'm definitely willing to go Brit first, just throwing that Narc info out there. I think he needs to be right there in the suspect list with me

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 06:21 AM

why do you think chubby is the most trusted villager right now?

Narcizo · 05-23-2012, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

For one, I believe all four voters on Narc are villagers. We know a wolf voted me and we Britrock voted Darth. Tough to believe there wouldnt have been a wolf on Narc

It would be odd but the possibility is that Darth Vilus was an unknown while I revealed as vanilla. If I was a wolf I'd take a lynch of a potential role over me.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

why do you think chubby is the most trusted villager right now?

His behavior largely plus his votes, though it largely dependent on britrock being a wolf. If brit is a wolf which I feel pretty sure of, I definitely dont think Chubby is

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

There is a third wolf Crimson. If its Chief or Pass, they both know how good Jag is

That's my point. So separating these out...

Would vote for JAG #1:
Danny
Narcizo
bhlloy
CrimsonFox
Zinto

I'm not sure but know JAG is good:
Passacaglia
Chief Rum
Jackal

Probably not vote JAG first:
Chubby
GoldenEagle
LSG

Probably didn't make the call or else did it on hearsay:
britrock
Julio Ridols

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 06:32 AM

hell that really doesn't help things. Except maybe that I am having a hard time seeing a britrock/Chubby/GE group of wolves.

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:33 AM

Your list isn't completely accurate. If I was a wolf, I would kill my villager self #1

Danny · 05-23-2012, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

hell that really doesn't help things. Except maybe that I am having a hard time seeing a britrock/Chubby/GE group of wolves.

Yeah, I really really dont see that. I definitely want to see britrock hang today. It will help us a lot, plus he's a wolf anyway

CrimsonFox · 05-23-2012, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Your list isn't completely accurate. If I was a wolf, I would kill my villager self #1

like evil abed killing good abed

05-23-2012, 05:35 AM	#751
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	If it weren't for his 4th vote on GE, tying it up post reveal to make it 4-4 when he could have gone julio or chubby, I would have said Zinto was someone to look at. After an early departure last game, I wouldn't think he'd be so quiet this game. Unless he was trying to protect the cunning by sacrificing the brutal. That seems a longshot though.

05-23-2012, 05:40 AM	#752
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Britrock and Danny were my other thoughts to look today. Both have voting issues and post issues. Danny just seems off like he's in a haze going "huh? werewolf? What do I do?" I don't totally buy that. Of course he always says he's not good at being a wolf. The mysteries after that are Chief and Pass. Both are posting and contributing but not much info about them. Chubby on the other hand. Just weird. I guess he was trying to draw out bhlloy who he thought was guilty. I GUESS that's why he didn't vote GE? Granted he didn't know GE was a wolf. But why did he leave his vote on b. Guess he was in that oldschool mind that b should move to GE immediately because that's how he SHOULD play when bhlloy doesn't play that way.

05-23-2012, 05:45 AM	#755
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I still don't get Ronnie. From the rules: "Ronnie Marcum - You are a psychopath that serves only himself. You may become a runner if the need arises but at the start you are a convicted citizen who is viewed as a hero by many. Only you will know your win conditions." "Starting as a convicted Citizen". That sounded to me like villager UNTIL he's converted, but someone disagreed I can't remember who. Was thinking wolves were scanning for him but maybe he just opos into wolf mode randomly? or maybe at a predetermined event like in Chubby's Cube game.

05-23-2012, 05:46 AM	#756
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Narc, who sasys that the Autumn and LSG submissions weren't already submitted hours before and just weren't changed?

05-23-2012, 05:47 AM	#757
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I was really waiting for Autumn to go sooner or now. And if he didn't I'd be suspicious, like...oh...who else would fit that category....hmmmm whistles

05-23-2012, 05:49 AM	#758
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Vote Chief

05-23-2012, 05:50 AM	#760
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	For today, I like Chief, Julio and Britrock to be the top vote getters. For now I think we lay off bhlloy as we still have time to get him if lying.

05-23-2012, 05:52 AM	#762
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	unvote chief vote britrock

05-23-2012, 05:54 AM	#763
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	SO far in order of trust, I think the following are villagers Chubby Jackal CrimsonFox Narcizo Zinto

05-23-2012, 05:55 AM	#764
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Still reviewing, but at this point I'd bet our two wolves are between britrock, Chief, Julio and Pass, with a slight chance at Narc

05-23-2012, 05:58 AM	#766
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	The elephant in the room (he HAS been eating an awful lot lately)

05-23-2012, 05:58 AM	#767
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	how about coprock?

05-23-2012, 05:59 AM	#768
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Relooked over what happened yesterday. Britrock is a wolf, book it

05-23-2012, 06:00 AM	#769
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	His wolf partner is probably Pass and maybe Chief, I also think this means Narc is a villager

05-23-2012, 06:01 AM	#771
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Oi! Why not Zinto as he's under me on your trust list?

05-23-2012, 06:02 AM	#772
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Based on objective means I probably am in the list of suspects as well based on my play day 1 and 2, especially since I do now think bh and julio are villagers.

05-23-2012, 06:02 AM	#773
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I really do think britrock is a wolf. But now that Autumn is good it would mean, who chose JAG as the first kill? I wouldn't think either brit or GE would. I cannot remember how often JAG and GE have played together and if GE would know how good JAG is except maybe from the last game people saying it.

05-23-2012, 06:03 AM	#774
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	There is a third wolf Crimson. If its Chief or Pass, they both know how good Jag is

05-23-2012, 06:03 AM	#775
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	btw, Julio could still be the convert, but I dont think he was a starting wolf.

05-23-2012, 06:04 AM	#777
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Narc, I actually think it's likely there were no wolves on to try and save GE. Britrock was already locked it and I think the other wolf being Pass or CR never did get online.

05-23-2012, 06:06 AM	#779
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Day 1 voting Darth Vilus 5 - Jackal (80), Chubby (131), britrock (221), bhlloy (224), Passacaglia (253) Danny 3 - Chief Rum (103), Julio Ridols (178) GoldenEagle (229) Narcizo 4 - LSG (132), Zinto (187), CrimsonFox(227), Autumn (268) Julio Ridols 2 - Danny (157), JAG (255) Bhlloy 2 - Narcizo (109) The Jackal 1 - Darth Vilus (108)

05-23-2012, 06:07 AM	#780
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Look at britrocks vote right there on DV. Since I believe Jackal and Chubby and bh at this point are all villagers, his day one vote looks real bad as well.

05-23-2012, 06:07 AM	#781
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Also, not sure GE puts a vote on me if another wolf was already there. That leads me away from Chief a little (and Julio as well).

05-23-2012, 06:09 AM	#782
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I also want to see if GE was around near deadline on day 1. If he is, I think that puts more trust on Narcizo as well as it would be awfully risky for him to leave his vote on me and not put it on DV

05-23-2012, 06:10 AM	#783
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Votes on you Danny could actually be explained. Chief's vote: being a smartass Julio's vote: new and doesn't know you GE: The wolf vote.

05-23-2012, 06:11 AM	#784
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Hmm Pass' vote was also on me before he switched to DV, that would mean GE and Pass went boom boom on me day 1. Seems risky as wolves especially if they were not going to nk me at all

05-23-2012, 06:13 AM	#785
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Pass's end of day shenagigans are just that. LIke last game. He's done it so many times it could be either wolf or villager. Chief was joining in with me arguing with Chubby. Could that have been a trust-creating situation for him? Hell this is why I hate CHief. I can never read him.

05-23-2012, 06:15 AM	#786
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I take it back on Narc, I have a gut feeling he is trying to bury brit now as his fellow wolf and Brit and Narc are the last two

05-23-2012, 06:15 AM	#787
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Looking at day 1 really does not put Narc in a good light, especially if Brit is also a wolf.

05-23-2012, 06:16 AM	#788
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	For one, I believe all four voters on Narc are villagers. We know a wolf voted me and we Britrock voted Darth. Tough to believe there wouldnt have been a wolf on Narc