Breakout Kings: Werewolf Style (Game over - village wins)

[The Jackal]

Hopefully the vibes I'm getting from brit are new player vibes and not wolfy vibes.

unvote brit
vote CR

[The Jackal]

And I'm off for now

[Julio Riddols]

Seems like Chief has some traction, and I don't think he is a wolf, but the possibility that he is Ronnie makes me feel ok with voting for him. I know this seems like it might be a nice convenient piggy back, but I've been thinking about it for several hours now. I still think its between him and Chubby - one of them I don't think will be good to leave alive.

For now,

VOTE CHIEF RUM

[Zinto]

Has CR checked in today? I would like to hear from him since he is getting votes.

[Zinto]

Voting for Danny doesn't make sense to me just based on voting history. GE put the fourth vote for him on day one tying him with DV at the time for the lead.

[Zinto]

I guess looking back at the voting I feel better about Chubby(sort of), he was someone people were piling on and GE put a third vote on him when he could have voted for bhlloy.

[Zinto]

Julio's vote on Chubby and my vote on bhlloy when GE had three votes look really bad. Julio is where I am going to go with my vote since I know I am a villager.

Vote Julio

[Julio Riddols]

I just never thought GE was a wolf, although between him and Autumn it sure seemed like one might be.

[Julio Riddols]

It was like they met on the street and had a nice little firefight with no winners.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I've been thinking about that and you might have to. Think about it. If the seer reveals then he knows he's going to be converted and lynched as a wolf. Why will he want to give any information in that case? It's a tricky part of the rule. The options are that the seer comes out and we lynch him today which is the best option. Or you tell us who the seer is.

Then the seer can go screw himself. Right now the seer is a villager, he needs to do what is best for the village. Not this hedge your bets type thing.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Has CR checked in today? I would like to hear from him since he is getting votes.

I have actually checked in several times today, but I have not posted. Mostly because I am working, and I didn't have a good feel for the previous night's actions just yet.

I am still evaluating my vote as well.

I'm not Ronnie, although I agree it sounds like the perfect role for me (my WW persona anyway).

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

Then the seer can go screw himself. Right now the seer is a villager, he needs to do what is best for the village. Not this hedge your bets type thing.

I agree that this is how I would handle it. Until I am a wolf, I am a villager, and I should play like one.

But I recognize that is for each player themselves to decide how they would handle that.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

If they came out today, they would still be a villager. Suppose it's a question of if they'd rather make a sacrifice to help the team they started the game with, or stay quiet with the knowledge that they are likely being forced to switch teams soon.

If they are playing to hedge their bets, I personally will verbally berate them once the game is over.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I agree that this is how I would handle it. Until I am a wolf, I am a villager, and I should play like one.

But I recognize that is for each player themselves to decide how they would handle that.

I understand, obviously I don't really wish for them to go screw themselves (though there's nothing wrong with that if they do .

But yes, the choice seems obvious in regards to what I would personally do.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Voting for Danny doesn't make sense to me just based on voting history. GE put the fourth vote for him on day one tying him with DV at the time for the lead.

I am Danny and I approve of this message!

[Danny]

My votes not changing pending some kind of reveal.

[britrock88]

Tally!

740	03:57	Narcizo		britrock	1
758	06:49	Danny		Chief Rum	1
762	06:52	Danny	un	Chief Rum	0
		Danny		britrock	2
804	07:46	CF		Danny		1
852	11:15	CF	un	Danny		0
		CF		Pass		1
854	11:17	bhlloy		Chief Rum	1
856	11:30	Jackal		britrock	3
901	17:46	Jackal	un	britrock	2
		Jackal		Chief Rum	2
903	17:55	Julio		Chief Rum	3
907	18:26	Zinto		Julio		1

[britrock88]

Well, that's a record, actually. The tally:

CR - 3 - bhlloy, Jackal, Julio
britrock - 2 - Narcizo, Danny
Pass - 1 - CF
Julio - 1 - Zinto

Did I miss anything? Today covers bottom of p. 14 through here.

[Chubby]

Missing my vote at the very least

[Julio Riddols]

I'm good with Danny too based on the fairly reasonable justification mentioned before, and I guess unless the seer reveals themselves and sacrifices themselves, my vote will either be on Chief or chubby. Sticking with Chief for now.

[britrock88]

Crap. I did miss that Chubby voted CF in post 897.

[britrock88]

CR - 3 - bhlloy, Jackal, Julio
britrock - 2 - Narcizo, Danny
Pass - 1 - CF
CF - 1 - Chubby
Julio - 1 - Zinto

Thanks for the heads-up, Chubby.

[britrock88]

That's double-checked now. Myself, Pass, and Chief left to vote.

[Zinto]

Looks like no one is talking and no one is going for Julio so...

Unvote Julio

[Zinto]

I think I am going to vote Britrock. I am going to assume that Chief is going to vote for Britrock and Britrock is going to vote for Chief so we will be sitting even here with two hours left.

Vote Britrock

[Danny]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Hopefully the vibes I'm getting from brit are new player vibes and not wolfy vibes.

unvote brit
vote CR

Forget vibes, look At the votes. Ill be shocked if brit isnot a wolf

[CrimsonFox]

before i forget

unvote pass
vote brit

[Chubby]

awwwwwwfully quiet

[EagleFan]

As of post 928:

britrock88 4 - Narcizo (740), Danny (762), Zinto (925), CrimsonFox (927)
Chief Rum 4 - bhlloy (854), Chubby (897), The Jackal (901), Julio Ridols (903)

Yet to vote: God, others...

[EagleFan]

As of post 928:

britrock88 4 - Narcizo (740), Danny (762), Zinto (925), CrimsonFox (927)
Chief Rum 3 - bhlloy (854), The Jackal (901), Julio Ridols (903)
CrimsonFox 1 - Chubby (897)

Yet to vote: God, others...

[EagleFan]

Sorry, saw CF and read CR on the Chubby vote.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

As of post 928:

britrock88 4 - Narcizo (740), Danny (762), Zinto (925), CrimsonFox (927)
Chief Rum 4 - bhlloy (854), Chubby (897), The Jackal (901), Julio Ridols (903)

Yet to vote: God, others...

i'm actually on CrimsonFox, nobody wants to count my vote

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

It was like they met on the street and had a nice little firefight with no winners.

Oh, I think I won.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Oh, I think I won.

All us villagers won a little bit with that one. If either Chief or Brit is a wolf I think we might win again tonight.

Starting to wonder if Danny is the Seer after going back and re-reading things from about page 17. I understand being reasonably sure of something, but he seems entirely sure. I don't see how, given that Brit is new at this like me and I know all too well how easy it is to look like a wolf when you're just trying to hash things out or go with someone who has some traction in support of the rest of the assumed villagers..

And after all that talking through, names were rising and falling all over his posts regarding how much they were trusted, but britrock stuck at the top.

My question is whether we should kill a wolf that danny seems sure about if he is the seer, or if we should just go after the seer. I guess it honestly doesn't matter either way. I still think Chief is someone to watch though, so I am not ready to move yet until I can be further convinced. If Danny is the seer, I trust him - Otherwise all that misdirection and naming of names is hard to understand and seems like the possibility of a wolf trying to scapegoat an inexperienced player by pushing him so hard on the rest of us.

[Julio Riddols]

Then again maybe I am just reading too much into things.

[Julio Riddols]

Gotta feed my son and get him to bed, should be back in about a half hour.

[bhlloy]

I had the Danny as a seer thought as well Julio after his mini rant from earlier in the day and the way he's played. If you put a gun to my head I'd say I'm pretty confident it's either CF or Danny. Or someone else.

[Zinto]

So we are missing three votes currently and we are really close to the deadline so that is no good.

[Zinto]

Danny posting lists of people he trusts and distrusts are not uncommon when he plays. Even if he was the seer he would only have two scans so he would only surely know about two of the people he has mentioned.

[Danny]

I am not the seer. If I was the seer and found a wolf, I would have revealed a long time ago. Not to mention the whole being converted thing.

[bhlloy]

Nothing to do with that Zinto. No seer would ever be that obvious.

I'm talking more about the fact he's more UTR than I've seen in a very long time, plus he had the speech this afternoon about if he was the seer he'd come out and tell us all and he'll spank the seer after the game if he doesn't come forward etc...

Both CF and Danny are playing un-CF and Danny like games, which makes me nervous about both of them. But I'm very rarely right these days.

[bhlloy]

Add Jackal to that list as well come to think of it. We have three guys who are very vocal usually that have been pretty quiet this game, all things considered

[CrimsonFox]

taint me

[Danny]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Nothing to do with that Zinto. No seer would ever be that obvious.

I'm talking more about the fact he's more UTR than I've seen in a very long time, plus he had the speech this afternoon about if he was the seer he'd come out and tell us all and he'll spank the seer after the game if he doesn't come forward etc...

Both CF and Danny are playing un-CF and Danny like games, which makes me nervous about both of them. But I'm very rarely right these days.

I was UTR day 1 and 2 because I was busy. I certainly haven't been utr today. I think those that have played with me a lot know that I would make the villager play here as the seer and not try and hedge my bets.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Add Jackal to that list as well come to think of it. We have three guys who are very vocal usually that have been pretty quiet this game, all things considered

But look at the voting. We've found a wolf now, we are able to go on more then gut at this point

[CrimsonFox]

neither chief nor pass have voted. wtf

[Danny]

nor has brit, find it really off neither have voted.

[CrimsonFox]

they've given up?

[Julio Riddols]

Weird, wild stuff.

[EagleFan]