2005 NFL Rookie Free Agent Discussion

[wade moore]

As some of you may have noticed, I am a die hard fan of my alma-mater I-AA William and Mary...


Two of their players were picked up as Free Agents last night, one I expected, one I did not.

QB Lang Campbell (Cleveland Browns) - Lang won the Payton award for the 2004 season (for those that don't know, it is the equivalent to the Heisman for I-AA). Lang is a solid QB that I expected to get picked up as a URFA. He has a good 'football mind' and makes few mistakes (in the regular season he threw 20+ Tds and one INT). His main knock is that he did not play against the highest competition (I-AA) and he does not have NFL type height/weight numbers. I think if you let him develop he could be a very solid NFL player, but definately not a starter in the next couple of years.

WR Dominique Thompson (St. Louis Rams) - 'Nique had a major breakout season this year to go along with Campbell's. My biggest concern with him is 'toughness'. He is pretty fast and can do the deep ball well, but he did not run a lot of crossing patterns, screens, etc. He is a highlight reel for I-AA, but not much of a "tough yardage" guy. In St. Louis's offense, this could be a good fit as a #4 or #5 guy.

Very interested to see if they make the final rosters. We had a WR (Rich Musinski) get signed last year who to me is a much better WR than 'Nique. He played through the preseason with Tennessee, but did not make the final roster - he's now on the practice squad of the Nashville Kats in Arena and will try to get into the NFL again this year I'm sure.


Any other URFA's of interest out there?

[Ragone]

wade moore must have busted out the wayback machine to come back from 2008

2008 Rookie Free Agent Discussion

[General Mike]

From Rutgers

DB Jarvis Johnson and DT Gary Gibson signed with the Baltimore Ravens

DT J'Vonne Parker signed with the Cleveland Brown. I'd assume that Browns DL coach Randy Melvin put a good word in for J'Vonne based on his time coaching at Rutgers.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Ragone

wade moore must have busted out the wayback machine to come back from 2008

2008 Rookie Free Agent Discussion

I think that someone is a wee bit too engrossed in the 2008 IHOF draft...


Two UTEP players signed free agent contracts yesterday, punter Bryce Benekos with the Packers and speedy little RB/KR Howard Jackson signed with the Lions.

With the Vikes picking UTEP DB Adrian Ward, it looks like the NFC North is the UTEP Division. Guess the Bears just need to pick up either LB Robert Rodriguez or TE Jonas Crafts now...

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

I think that someone is a wee bit too engrossed in the 2008 IHOF draft...

I think you hit the nail on the head

[Poli]

OT Michael Munoz of Tennessee went undrafted. That was a surprise. I've heard of two UT players (Derrick Tinsley and Tony Brown, I think) getting signed already, but to my knowledge Munoz wasn't signed earlier today.

I'd also be interested in seeing if CJ Leak gets an offer for anything.

Otherwise, I think OU QB Jason White wasn't drafted, but I'm not sure.

[wade moore]

I was shocked to see Munoz did not even go in the 7th round... he has to go into training camp with someone, doesn't he?!

[Poli]

He said in an interview that he's prepared to start his life without football...because he knows the chances of making it as an undrafted FA. He also said if given the chance he would try out.

[albionmoonlight]

Anybody know anything about the following players that the Saints have signed as UFAs?


Russell Rabe (LB) University of Minnesota-Duluth
Matt Clark (CB) UCLA
Ikechuku Ndukwe (G) Northwestern
Louis-Phillip Ladouceur (LS) California
Scott Beveridge (WR) Peru State

[TazFTW]

Cardinals signed S Ernest Shazor, who at one time was considered a 2nd-3rd rounder.

Dolphins signed QB Brock Berlin.

Cowboys sign LS/LB Jon Condo of Maryland.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Anybody know anything about the following players that the Saints have signed as UFAs?


Ikechuku Ndukwe (G) Northwestern

I know I can't pronounce his name

[rjolley]

Is there a page that shows the signings? I went and looked on the Bears' page and couldn't locate it.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

He said in an interview that he's prepared to start his life without football...because he knows the chances of making it as an undrafted FA. He also said if given the chance he would try out.

Apparently he's quitting football...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2045943

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by rjolley

Is there a page that shows the signings? I went and looked on the Bears' page and couldn't locate it.

I'm looking for the same. I haven't found a comprehensive listing for all teams. Here's the Jags list from rotoworld:

The Jaguars announced 11 rookie free agent signings.
The list: USC WR Jason Mitchell, USC FB Lee Webb, Fort Valley State running back Derrick Wimbush, Georgia Tech LS Andre Economos, DE Benard Thomas of Nebraska and DE Jim Davis of Virginia Tech, OL L.V. Hill of Southwest Baptist and Daniel Connolly of Southeast Missouri State, LB Jamar Enzor of Cincinnati and LB James Kinney of Missouri and Pittsburg (Kan.) State TE Neal Philpot. Apr. 25 - 10:42 am et

[wade moore]

I-AA.org has all of the I-aa players...

http://www.i-aa.org/article.asp?articleid=69434

[Joe]

some guys from Minnesota got signed:

Vikings signed DB Justin Fraley, DB Ukee Dozier, OT Rian Melander

Colts signed DT Darrell Reid

Ravens signed K Rhys Lloyd


KFFL has a pretty good listing of guys signed.

[Bearcat729]

Damn I was hoping that the Browns would give him a shot, but the AP says that Michael Munoz is quitting football since he wasn't drafted.

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I'm looking for the same. I haven't found a comprehensive listing for all teams. Here's the Jags list from rotoworld:

The Jaguars announced 11 rookie free agent signings.
The list: USC WR Jason Mitchell, USC FB Lee Webb, Fort Valley State running back Derrick Wimbush, Georgia Tech LS Andre Economos, DE Benard Thomas of Nebraska and DE Jim Davis of Virginia Tech, OL L.V. Hill of Southwest Baptist and Daniel Connolly of Southeast Missouri State, LB Jamar Enzor of Cincinnati and LB James Kinney of Missouri and Pittsburg (Kan.) State TE Neal Philpot. Apr. 25 - 10:42 am et

Pitt State and Southwest Baptist players get signed, but no Northwest Missouri State players? Ugh, that's sickening.

[rjolley]

Division II free agent signings: http://www.d2football.com/Stories/2005freeagents.html

[TazFTW]

Dolphins sign RB Kay-Jay Harris.


Cowboys sign TE Tony Curtis (Portland State), LB Roger Cooper (Montana), QB Derek Maupin (West Texas A&M) is coming in for a tryout.

[marshall881]

Titans Sign:

WR Jason Anderson - Wake Forest
RB Charles Anthony - Tennessee State
LB Brian Atkinson - Northern Illinois
DE Todd Bates - Alabama
QB Shane Boyd - Kentucky
WR Chris Bush - Tulane
WR Vincent Cartwright - Houston
DT Brandon Dabdoub - Colorado
WR Ellis Debrow - Delta State
FB Jimmy Dixon - Georgia Tech
FB Robert Douglas - Memphis
LB Nigel Eldridge - Alabama-Birmingham
OL Mike Erickson - Nebraska
QB Gino Guidugli - Cincinnati
TE Ben Hall - Clemson
CB Antoine Harris - Louisville
LB Travis Harris - Florida
DB Sindey Haugabrook - Delaware
S Jamacia Jackson - South Carolina
RB Terry Jackson - Southern Illinois
WR Earvin Johnson - UNLV
RB Corey Larkins - Tennessee
DE Karlton Neal - Tennessee
WR Alonzo Nix - Chattanooga
QB Marcus Randall - LSU
RB Walter Reyes - Syracuse
T Stefan Rodgers - Lambuth
C Joel Rodriguez - Miami-Fl.
LB Robert Rodriguez - Texas-El Paso
G Will Rogers - Mississippi State
WR O.J. Small - Florida
DE Kenneth Smith - Benedict College
TE Jimmy St. Louis - Murray State
CB Kevin Timothee - Florida International
DT Marcus White - Murray State
DE Alton Wright - Miami-Fl.

[JeeberD]

Good job of the Titans picking up Robert Rodriguez. They won't be disappointed...

[JeeberD]

Dola-

Do you have a link to that? I want to post it on the UTEP board...

Edit: Nevermind, found it...

[Cuckoo]

Okay, okay, I'm an OU homer. And yes I know that Jason White has had injury problems in the past, has limited mobility, and mediocre arm strength. But, come on, the guy won a Heisman, finished third in the Heisman race the next year, and is one of the most decorated college quarterbacks in some time. Plus, he's smart and completes a high percentage of passes. You're telling me he's not worth a late round pick?

I'll continue to be surprised if someone doesn't pick him up. Will he be an NFL quarterback? Not likely. But he can be a decent, intelligent back-up.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by Cuckoo

Okay, okay, I'm an OU homer. And yes I know that Jason White has had injury problems in the past, has limited mobility, and mediocre arm strength. But, come on, the guy won a Heisman, finished third in the Heisman race the next year, and is one of the most decorated college quarterbacks in some time. Plus, he's smart and completes a high percentage of passes. You're telling me he's not worth a late round pick?

I'll continue to be surprised if someone doesn't pick him up. Will he be an NFL quarterback? Not likely. But he can be a decent, intelligent back-up.

would he be a QB though? or is it an Eric Crouch type of situation?

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by George W Bush

would he be a QB though? or is it an Eric Crouch type of situation?

I don't think he could possibly play any other position. He's not slow, but he's certainly not fast.

[henry296]

The Steelers signed 12 players today:

Fullback Zach Tuiasosopo of Washington;
wide receiver Tavaris Capers of Central Florida;
offensive tackle Morgan Davis of Wisconsin;
offensive guard Jake Verstraete of Northern Illinois;
linebacker Ronald Stanley of Michigan State;
linebacker Andre Frazier of Cincinnati;
linebacker Arnold Harrison of Georgia;
defensive tackle Elliott Harris of Arkansas;
kicker Shaun Suisham of Bowling Green;
long snapper Greg Warren of North Carolina;
wide receiver Nate Washington of Tiffin;
running back John Kuhn of Shippensburg.

[VPI97]

VT quarterback Bryan Randall was signed by the Falcons

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by marshall881

Titans Sign:

WR Jason Anderson - Wake Forest
RB Charles Anthony - Tennessee State
LB Brian Atkinson - Northern Illinois
DE Todd Bates - Alabama
QB Shane Boyd - Kentucky
WR Chris Bush - Tulane
WR Vincent Cartwright - Houston
DT Brandon Dabdoub - Colorado
WR Ellis Debrow - Delta State
FB Jimmy Dixon - Georgia Tech
FB Robert Douglas - Memphis
LB Nigel Eldridge - Alabama-Birmingham
OL Mike Erickson - Nebraska
QB Gino Guidugli - Cincinnati
TE Ben Hall - Clemson
CB Antoine Harris - Louisville
LB Travis Harris - Florida
DB Sindey Haugabrook - Delaware
S Jamacia Jackson - South Carolina
RB Terry Jackson - Southern Illinois
WR Earvin Johnson - UNLV
RB Corey Larkins - Tennessee
DE Karlton Neal - Tennessee
WR Alonzo Nix - Chattanooga
QB Marcus Randall - LSU
RB Walter Reyes - Syracuse
T Stefan Rodgers - Lambuth
C Joel Rodriguez - Miami-Fl.
LB Robert Rodriguez - Texas-El Paso
G Will Rogers - Mississippi State
WR O.J. Small - Florida
DE Kenneth Smith - Benedict College
TE Jimmy St. Louis - Murray State
CB Kevin Timothee - Florida International
DT Marcus White - Murray State
DE Alton Wright - Miami-Fl.

Did they just offer contracts to every graduating football player? That's a LOT of camp bodies.

[Ksyrup]

I just want to confirm that Chris Rix isn't even getting an invite.

[FBPro]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I just want to confirm that Chris Rix isn't even getting an invite.

hehe

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by George W Bush

some guys from Minnesota got signed:

Vikings signed DB Justin Fraley, DB Ukee Dozier, OT Rian Melander

Colts signed DT Darrell Reid

Ravens signed K Rhys Lloyd


KFFL has a pretty good listing of guys signed.

Vikes also signed Jonathan Nichols, Kicker out of Mississippi. I wish him luck beating out Elling.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

Anyone know if ND's Ryan Gran signed anywhere?

[hahnkim]

Anybody know anything about the following players that the Saints have signed as UFAs?

Matt Clark (CB) UCLA

Undersized corner, showed good cover skills this year as the #1 corner for the Bruins. He's not exceptionally fast, but he could stick as a nickelback.

[korme]

Go Gino!!!! He's got stiff competition to make the Titans roster, but maybe he'll find somewhere. Guidigli is solely responsible for the 'Cats being successful last season.

And I know no one cares, but Milford High was always shitty at football, we weren't a prospect machine like Tucker, but one guy, Zach Strief went to Northwestern and now he will be a senior in 2005, he's started since the last 3 games of his freshman year at Right Tackle, and a scouting report says the sky is the limit. It will be cool to see him get drafted next year. http://nusports.collegesports.com/sp...ef_zach00.html

[korme]

Writing of that guy reminded me of another. Strief was a senior when I was a frosh, and at tackle even being so good he never stood out to fans. The kid that stood out was our huge RB who was a grade higher than me, Joe Razzano, son of former Bengal Rick Razzano. He was dominant, and got an offer from VT. At the last minute, things fell through and I think he's at Kentucky right now. He's a cool kid.

Anyway, his brother was a senior when I was in 8th grade, Ricky Razzano. He went to Ole Miss and was starting at FB by his soph season, always an inspiration for Joey. Well I just thought of him and realized he was draft eligible now, and began to look to see if he got signed. Couldn't find any FA signings about him anywhere, when I came upon the news:

FB Rick Razzano was drafted by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the 7th round! Sweet! Officially the first guy I will ever see in the NFL from my High School! I hope he makes it.

[Swaggs]

Some WVU players that were signed today:

Tim Brown - Houston -- versatile 6-year lineman. Played almost every position on the line while at WVU.
Eddie Jackson - NY Jets -- Overhyped transfer from (I believe) Washington. Was a pretty big flop for us, but has good "tools."
Mike Watson - Carolina -- Solid offensive tackle that did a very good job for us. Scouts think he isn't strong enough.
Ben Lynch - Washington -- Our nose tackle for several seasons. One of those motor guys that always played, even when hurt, and always seemed to be in on tackles.

Another player that I heard signed, but haven't seen it verified yet:
Kay Jay Harris - Miami

[st.cronin]

I started a thread about Wisconsin's Jim Leonhard. I think he'll eventually have a longer pro career than any Badger drafted this year except Erasmus James.

[Ragone]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Apparently he's quitting football...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2045943

Damn, apparently he's never heard of Priest holmes

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Ragone

Damn, apparently he's never heard of Priest holmes

Especially with his dad being who he is, surely he could get a job someplace. I think he feels like it's not worth it, if no one drafted him. Seems silly, maybe..but with him being married and obviously money isn't a problem for him..it's probably not something he wants to beat his body up for.

That said, it could be a ploy to get teams to notice him and get him signed someplace.

I mean, surely Anthony can make a call to get him at least a tryout.

[General Mike]

The Vikings signed Rutgers DT David Harley.

[Ragone]

to me it would seemingly be easier for a olineman to make it as a free agent.. if they had the size/weight down.. the technique can be taught.. and to start at a major d1 university.. you should have a decent technique anyway..

[Ragone]

Originally Posted by Cuckoo

Okay, okay, I'm an OU homer. And yes I know that Jason White has had injury problems in the past, has limited mobility, and mediocre arm strength. But, come on, the guy won a Heisman, finished third in the Heisman race the next year, and is one of the most decorated college quarterbacks in some time. Plus, he's smart and completes a high percentage of passes. You're telling me he's not worth a late round pick?

I'll continue to be surprised if someone doesn't pick him up. Will he be an NFL quarterback? Not likely. But he can be a decent, intelligent back-up.

His Paper Mache Acl cost him draft status i imagine.. and most people don't spend draft picks on quarterbacks projected as a career backup

[Poli]

Sigh.

What's sad is Tinsley and Larkins getting invites.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER

Anyone know if ND's Ryan Gran signed anywhere?

Giants

[TazFTW]

Chargers sign CB Abraham Elimimian and DT Lui Fuga, both from Hawaii.

Cardinals sign QB Timmy Chang (Hawaii) and WR Carlyle Holiday (Notre Dame).

[JeeberD]

Cowboys invited former UTEP Miner Godwin Akinduro to camp...

[streetballer22]

The Titans got a steal in Walter Reyes, not a real fast or strong guy but a smart runner. He was thought to be a 3rd or 4th rounder before a weak senior season.

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by Ragone

His Paper Mache Acl cost him draft status i imagine.. and most people don't spend draft picks on quarterbacks projected as a career backup

While I agree with you that his injuries certainly cost him, one could make the case that his rebuilt ligaments are actually stronger than they were before.

And it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to spend draft picks on guys who aren't even talented enough to be career back-ups but not one on a guy who can make a positive contribution to your team.

[Ragone]

Originally Posted by Cuckoo

While I agree with you that his injuries certainly cost him, one could make the case that his rebuilt ligaments are actually stronger than they were before.

And it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to spend draft picks on guys who aren't even talented enough to be career back-ups but not one on a guy who can make a positive contribution to your team.

Not to mention his age.. he spent 6 years there.. whats that make him.. 25?