Which QB would you have rather had

albionmoonlight · 07-03-2018, 12:02 PM

Assume that you get the guy as a rookie and that you have functional infrastructure/coaching around him.

This is related to, but not quite, the same question as which guy had the better career.

bhlloy · 07-03-2018, 12:35 PM

Great, great question. I went Romo, because after watching Rivers for years as a Chargers fan so many of his counting stats are in empty garbage time. A 4 TD 400 yard game looks impressive until you realize his 3 INT and a mind blowingly stupid fumble are the reason they were down by 35 and had to throw it for the entire second half.

Manning just hasn't been good for a lot of his career. I guess the real question is whether you want a QB with two rings with average stats or one with consistently above average/good numbers with no rings and a reputation for choking in the playoffs or in important situations.

digamma · 07-03-2018, 12:50 PM

I get to Eli or ahem Mike Trout by process of elimination. bhlloy expresses many of the Rivers negatives better than I can but I'm not sure he's a guy who is ever going to get you there. 10-6 for lyfe!

Someone will debate this poing, but Romo may have had the best supporting cast for much of his career of these three. Now if I were starting a broadcast team...

And what about *cough* Trout? Guy is likely the best athlete of the four and can sure throw a baseball.

QuikSand · 07-03-2018, 01:09 PM

Feels very hard to conclude that Rivers's various weaknesses couldn't have been remedied, to some degree, by the requisite "coaching" and such intimated by the setup post. Given what I have seen him be capable of, I pick him here, but not by a wide margin.

digamma · 07-03-2018, 01:59 PM

Yeah, it's a great question, as I think all three are defensible picks.

Chief Rum · 07-03-2018, 02:39 PM

I went Mike Trout. He's so good, it wouldn't shock me if he was also the most talented QB of the group.

Vince, Pt. II · 07-03-2018, 03:16 PM

I agree that they are all defensible picks. I give the nod to Rivers as well, but not by much.

jaygr · 07-03-2018, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Great, great question. I went Romo, because after watching Rivers for years as a Chargers fan so many of his counting stats are in empty garbage time. A 4 TD 400 yard game looks impressive until you realize his 3 INT and a mind blowingly stupid fumble are the reason they were down by 35 and had to throw it for the entire second half.

Manning just hasn't been good for a lot of his career. I guess the real question is whether you want a QB with two rings with average stats or one with consistently above average/good numbers with no rings and a reputation for choking in the playoffs or in important situations.

Do you think if Rivers went to either the Giants or Steelers he would have equaled (or even surpassed) the two Super Bowl wins Eli and Ben each have?

bhlloy · 07-03-2018, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jaygr

Do you think if Rivers went to either the Giants or Steelers he would have equaled (or even surpassed) the two Super Bowl wins Eli and Ben each have?

I think he'd probably have Eli's rings if that draft night trade hadn't gone down. Roethlisberger is an interesting one as I feel like his style has been pretty integral to those Steeler teams, on the flip side Ben didn't actually play well in the playoffs either of his championship years (and Eli did - go figure).

Let's not forget those Charger teams were far from terrible 2007-2011. They had a higher ranked defense than the Giants both years Eli did his thing.

View Poll Results: Which QB would you have rather had on your team
Eli Manning	5	10.87%
Philip Rivers	25	54.35%
Tony Romo	6	13.04%
Mike Trout	10	21.74%
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07-03-2018, 02:39 PM	#6
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I went Mike Trout. He's so good, it wouldn't shock me if he was also the most talented QB of the group. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

07-03-2018, 12:35 PM	#2
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Great, great question. I went Romo, because after watching Rivers for years as a Chargers fan so many of his counting stats are in empty garbage time. A 4 TD 400 yard game looks impressive until you realize his 3 INT and a mind blowingly stupid fumble are the reason they were down by 35 and had to throw it for the entire second half. Manning just hasn't been good for a lot of his career. I guess the real question is whether you want a QB with two rings with average stats or one with consistently above average/good numbers with no rings and a reputation for choking in the playoffs or in important situations.

07-03-2018, 12:50 PM	#3
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	I get to Eli or ahem Mike Trout by process of elimination. bhlloy expresses many of the Rivers negatives better than I can but I'm not sure he's a guy who is ever going to get you there. 10-6 for lyfe! Someone will debate this poing, but Romo may have had the best supporting cast for much of his career of these three. Now if I were starting a broadcast team... And what about cough Trout? Guy is likely the best athlete of the four and can sure throw a baseball.

07-03-2018, 01:09 PM	#4
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Feels very hard to conclude that Rivers's various weaknesses couldn't have been remedied, to some degree, by the requisite "coaching" and such intimated by the setup post. Given what I have seen him be capable of, I pick him here, but not by a wide margin.

07-03-2018, 01:59 PM	#5
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Yeah, it's a great question, as I think all three are defensible picks.

07-03-2018, 03:16 PM	#7
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	I agree that they are all defensible picks. I give the nod to Rivers as well, but not by much.

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