Werewolf CXVIIIb XTreme - WOLVES WIN - Page 12

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 03:30 PM

VOTE NIGHTFALL

Danny · 06-16-2011, 03:30 PM

Are you guys both set on nightfall?

spleen1015 · 06-16-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

So Spleen you believe I voted bh over you yesterday? And then chose not to kill packerfanatic in the night?

Yes, I do.

spleen1015 · 06-16-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Are you guys both set on nightfall?

Yes.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 03:32 PM

Packer?

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 03:32 PM

I don't want to be talked out of this vote, Danny - because when you turn up wolf, I will shoot myself :-P

I know I am the priest, so I am basically the decider here. I went back and look at spleen's posts and votes and I just can't justify a vote on him. He made too many plays against the only known wolf we have gotten.

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 03:32 PM

So yes, I am set on nightfall.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 03:33 PM

Alright, well this sucks. Really didn't want to do this as I believe the sorcerer is dead. I am the last wolf. If one of you is the sorcerer, you need to not vote me.

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 03:36 PM

He is dead - it was Narc.

spleen1015 · 06-16-2011, 03:39 PM

It's done Danny.

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 03:43 PM

Danny, you played a crazy good game. But you really need to explain your thoughts behind not killing me last night.

Chubby · 06-16-2011, 03:44 PM

game? don't want to post until autumn makes it official

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 03:46 PM

Danny still needs to vote nightfall to officially end it.

Autumn · 06-16-2011, 03:46 PM

danny - packerfanatic (516), spleen1015 (547)

nightfall - packerfanatic, spleen1015

Game is still on.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 03:47 PM

Based on your reactions, I now think Spleen has to be the last wolf.
Vote Spleen

Packer you don't have to believe me, and I expect you not to, but really look back at how day 2 went down

Danny · 06-16-2011, 03:48 PM

bhlloy with the alright I guess I'll go down if I have to with Spleen as his runoff partner. Mine with a key vote lynching bh when I had many chances to lynch Spleen and make it and almost sure wolf win.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

It's done Danny.

Right here. Spleen knows the sorc is dead because he knows you Packer are telling the truth. How would he know and have this reaction unless he was the wolf?

spleen1015 · 06-16-2011, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Right here. Spleen knows the sorc is dead because he knows you Packer are telling the truth. How would he know and have this reaction unless he was the wolf?

I said that because we both are standing firm and we're ready for the village to win the game.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 03:52 PM

I am not voting Nightfall, no way I give the game away to the wolves even with almost no chance. So if Packer doesn't change his mind, you guys will have to wait until deadline.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

I said that because we both are standing firm and we're ready for the village to win the game.

And as a villager, how could you be so sure Packer was not the sorc? You went from considering different options to locking in on me despite all game saying you felt I was likely a villager

spleen1015 · 06-16-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

And as a villager, how could you be so sure Packer was not the sorc? You went from considering different options to locking in on me despite all game saying you felt I was likely a villager

And today it comes down between Packer and you, who didn't vote on day 1.

I already said I can see either one of you being the wolf, but your missing vote screams wolf to me. Maybe it is an honest mistake, but that missing vote gets in the way a lot.

I think it is lame that you'll take your ball and go home until the deadline, but I can wait until 10pm.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I also find it hard to believe we were wolf-wolf yesterday.

Again, why is this hard to believe. Look back at bh's reaction. You know he was a wolf and yet he has fights not at all to keep himself alive. It makes sense if Spleen was also a wolf.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

I already said I can see either one of you being the wolf, but your missing vote screams wolf to me.

Really? You said the exact opposite earlier?

And while it doesn't mean much, I never miss votes as a wolf.

spleen1015 · 06-16-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Really? You said the exact opposite earlier?

And while it doesn't mean much, I never miss votes as a wolf.

I am referring to the post(547) with my latest vote for you.

You've already admitted to being a wolf in a last ditch effort to find the sorcerer. That didn't work now you'll try anything. The village wins. Good game man. You played very well.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

I am referring to the post(547) with my latest vote for you.

You've already admitted to being a wolf in a last ditch effort to find the sorcerer. That didn't work now you'll try anything. The village wins. Good game man. You played very well.

Packer, I hope you're reading along and at least willing to consider that I fake revealed as a wolf to try and help me decide. It was a last ditch effort alright, but not for the wolves.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 04:08 PM

Spleen, tell me again. Yesterday you were dead set on the two candidates Packer and Narcizo? Why the sudden change of heart?

spleen1015 · 06-16-2011, 04:09 PM

Unfortunately, I have to make the drive home. So, I'll be back later.

Packer, I hope you stick to it man.

spleen1015 · 06-16-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Spleen, tell me again. Yesterday you were dead set on the two candidates Packer and Narcizo? Why the sudden change of heart?

One more post before I jet.

I already told you man. Trying to decide between the 2 of you, that missing vote makes me believe you're the wolf.

I'll be back later.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 04:13 PM

Packer, think about this.

If I was a wolf, I would 100% know you were telling the truth. That would mean I would know Narc the sorcerer was dead.

Why would I do what I did if I knew the sorc was dead? My play was clearly of someone who really didn't know.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

One more post before I jet.

I already told you man. Trying to decide between the 2 of you, that missing vote makes me believe you're the wolf.

I'll be back later.

So as a villager you would be willing to ignore all of our voting history, post analysis, reveals, opinions of confirmed villager and just base your vote on the fact I didn't vote day 1 which is frankly does not mean anything about me potentially being a wolf or villager.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

I look at this a little differently.

I don't think a wolf would be gone for 1.5 days and then show up and say they weren't going to vote for certain candidates. I don't think Danny would make that mistake as a wolf. I'm seeing him as a villager now.

here is a post from Spleen yesterday. Pretty quick how his opinion changes eh?

Danny · 06-16-2011, 04:20 PM

So he has now admitted that he is basing his vote off of my day 1 no vote and yet that completely contradicts his thoughts from yesterday.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 04:23 PM

And again Packer, when you get here, look at the difference between yours and Spleen's reactions to my wolf reveal.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

unvote packer
Vote bhlloy

This vote right here made it 3-3 Spleen and BH with Spleen still able to switch his vote. No way in hell I make this vote if Bh was my wolf partner when I could have made it 4-2 spleen and guarenteed a wolf win with me and BH and the sorcerer left.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 04:36 PM

And Packer you stated that I could be doing that to set it up so that for this type of situation? Why on earth would I do that when I could have guaranteed a win by not doing so.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 04:43 PM

Seriously, Packer, if I was wolf, I would have voted Spleen, night killed you and been guaranteed a win. I'm a better player than to have not done that if I was a wolf.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 04:52 PM

Packer, your thoughts?

Danny · 06-16-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I went back and look at spleen's posts and votes and I just can't justify a vote on him. He made too many plays against the only known wolf we have gotten.

How did Spleen have anything to do with getting bh? If he didn't vote bh at deadline there, he would have died himself.

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 05:03 PM

Not what I expected to see when I got home. Danny has given me a lot to think about...and will make me kick myself hard if I switch and am wrong for sure, lol.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 05:05 PM

It's a tough spot for you Packer, you will kick yourself if you end up wrong regardless. All I can ask is you look at the evidence I laid out, compared to what Spleen laid out and then make your best guess.

Autumn · 06-16-2011, 05:06 PM

PackerFanatic, I'm upset at you breaking Danny's 10xdola streak :-(

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

How did Spleen have anything to do with getting bh? If he didn't vote bh at deadline there, he would have died himself.

He did place the first vote on him day 2 (although he was quick to move that vote when Narc came out after him)

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

PackerFanatic, I'm upset at you breaking Danny's 10xdola streak :-(

Haha. Sorry?

Danny · 06-16-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

PackerFanatic, I'm upset at you breaking Danny's 10xdola streak :-(

lol, If he didn't I may have gone for a 20x dola.

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 05:08 PM

He felt threatened that I was even REMOTELY close to his post count for the game

Danny · 06-16-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

He did place the first vote on him day 2 (although he was quick to move that vote when Narc came out after him)

Ah, that's true, which would mean the wolves voted each other early on day 2. It's risky there, but I think it's more likely wolves do that early as opposed to near deadline when it would decide a lynch for sure.

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 05:11 PM

Both votes (bhlloy's on spleen and spleens final vote) can both be seen as self-defense (the last one obviously, bhlloy's a little more subtle)

PackerFanatic · 06-16-2011, 05:12 PM

And bhlloy's vote on spleen (the 2nd at the time) was early enough where he could have switched it off if need be.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 05:12 PM

Spleen had to make his deadline switch. If he didn't save himself, it would be pretty obvious he was protecting bhlloy. The early votes are some support for them not being wolf buddies, but again I think my late vote is more powerful than a vote thrown down several hours before deadline.

Danny · 06-16-2011, 05:15 PM

And regardless of the outcome Packer, I think you have played very well.

06-16-2011, 03:30 PM	#551
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	VOTE NIGHTFALL

06-16-2011, 03:30 PM	#552
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Are you guys both set on nightfall?

06-16-2011, 03:32 PM	#555
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Packer?

06-16-2011, 03:32 PM	#556
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I don't want to be talked out of this vote, Danny - because when you turn up wolf, I will shoot myself :-P I know I am the priest, so I am basically the decider here. I went back and look at spleen's posts and votes and I just can't justify a vote on him. He made too many plays against the only known wolf we have gotten.

06-16-2011, 03:32 PM	#557
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	So yes, I am set on nightfall.

06-16-2011, 03:33 PM	#558
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Alright, well this sucks. Really didn't want to do this as I believe the sorcerer is dead. I am the last wolf. If one of you is the sorcerer, you need to not vote me.

06-16-2011, 03:36 PM	#559
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	He is dead - it was Narc.

06-16-2011, 03:39 PM	#560
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	It's done Danny.

06-16-2011, 03:43 PM	#561
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Danny, you played a crazy good game. But you really need to explain your thoughts behind not killing me last night.

06-16-2011, 03:44 PM	#562
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	game? don't want to post until autumn makes it official

06-16-2011, 03:46 PM	#563
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Danny still needs to vote nightfall to officially end it.

06-16-2011, 03:46 PM	#564
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	danny - packerfanatic (516), spleen1015 (547) nightfall - packerfanatic, spleen1015 Game is still on.

06-16-2011, 03:47 PM	#565
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Based on your reactions, I now think Spleen has to be the last wolf. Vote Spleen Packer you don't have to believe me, and I expect you not to, but really look back at how day 2 went down

06-16-2011, 03:48 PM	#566
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	bhlloy with the alright I guess I'll go down if I have to with Spleen as his runoff partner. Mine with a key vote lynching bh when I had many chances to lynch Spleen and make it and almost sure wolf win.

06-16-2011, 03:52 PM	#569
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I am not voting Nightfall, no way I give the game away to the wolves even with almost no chance. So if Packer doesn't change his mind, you guys will have to wait until deadline.

06-16-2011, 04:08 PM	#576
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Spleen, tell me again. Yesterday you were dead set on the two candidates Packer and Narcizo? Why the sudden change of heart?

06-16-2011, 04:09 PM	#577
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Unfortunately, I have to make the drive home. So, I'll be back later. Packer, I hope you stick to it man.

06-16-2011, 04:13 PM	#579
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Packer, think about this. If I was a wolf, I would 100% know you were telling the truth. That would mean I would know Narc the sorcerer was dead. Why would I do what I did if I knew the sorc was dead? My play was clearly of someone who really didn't know.

06-16-2011, 04:20 PM	#582
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So he has now admitted that he is basing his vote off of my day 1 no vote and yet that completely contradicts his thoughts from yesterday.

06-16-2011, 04:23 PM	#583
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	And again Packer, when you get here, look at the difference between yours and Spleen's reactions to my wolf reveal.

06-16-2011, 04:36 PM	#585
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	And Packer you stated that I could be doing that to set it up so that for this type of situation? Why on earth would I do that when I could have guaranteed a win by not doing so.

06-16-2011, 04:43 PM	#586
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Seriously, Packer, if I was wolf, I would have voted Spleen, night killed you and been guaranteed a win. I'm a better player than to have not done that if I was a wolf.

06-16-2011, 04:52 PM	#587
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Packer, your thoughts?

06-16-2011, 05:03 PM	#589
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Not what I expected to see when I got home. Danny has given me a lot to think about...and will make me kick myself hard if I switch and am wrong for sure, lol.

06-16-2011, 05:05 PM	#590
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	It's a tough spot for you Packer, you will kick yourself if you end up wrong regardless. All I can ask is you look at the evidence I laid out, compared to what Spleen laid out and then make your best guess.

06-16-2011, 05:06 PM	#591
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	PackerFanatic, I'm upset at you breaking Danny's 10xdola streak :-(

06-16-2011, 05:08 PM	#595
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	He felt threatened that I was even REMOTELY close to his post count for the game

06-16-2011, 05:11 PM	#597
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Both votes (bhlloy's on spleen and spleens final vote) can both be seen as self-defense (the last one obviously, bhlloy's a little more subtle)

06-16-2011, 05:12 PM	#598
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	And bhlloy's vote on spleen (the 2nd at the time) was early enough where he could have switched it off if need be.

06-16-2011, 05:12 PM	#599
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Spleen had to make his deadline switch. If he didn't save himself, it would be pretty obvious he was protecting bhlloy. The early votes are some support for them not being wolf buddies, but again I think my late vote is more powerful than a vote thrown down several hours before deadline.