Historic Draft & Roster Files (File Reupload 15-Mar-11 + Draft tweak)

[Draghetto]

I started an historical career and started in 1960 using the draft files but i noticed that the draft depth is very thin... i mean usually you can get a decent players in the first 3 round, maybe in the 4th, but for 3 years in a row the players i picked in the 5+ round were like 0/0

Was this wanted when the files were creater or am i missing some settings? Like the X-Factor or some other value that i must use?

Thanks a lot

[Alf]

Historical draft files usually has barely 2 rounds (maybe 3à worth of draftable players.

[Nukester]

Also remember that the game has to fill out an extra 10 teams that werent there in real life, so it has to create a bunch of fake players, most of which are probably scrubs

[akhag]

really enjoy your work nilodor, however i would also love to get my hands on those elusive .csv files, would be eternally grateful if someone who have them could send them to me at ake92 at msn.com or direct me to a working download

[armyofone]

Checking to see if anybody the remake files (60-08) both draft and roster?

I couldn't get the zip download in the first post to work (stated invalid file).

my e-mail is [email protected]

any help is greatly appreciated

[Erik Holland]

The Nilodor 1960 - 2008 draft files & roster files are now available at:

http://madeup.nl/FOF/DraftFiles.zip
http://madeup.nl/FOF/Roster.zip

[nilodor]

Thanks for hosting these files Erik. They are slightly updated from the previous version, I'm still working on getting the draft balance right, so let me know what you think of them! For those wanting the 60-10 files they are probably a couple months away, but I'm slowly working on them every once and a while! Thanks to everyone who's interested in these, hope you enjoy them!

[Yoda]

I'll be happy to host these on the GEFL site as well.

[Erik Holland]

Now also the .csv files:


http://madeup.nl/FOF/Draftcsv.zip
http://madeup.nl/FOF/Rostercsv.zip

thanks Nilodor

[sedator]

Does anybody have the 2009 and 2010 draft files?

[dr. dru]

Originally Posted by Erik Holland

Now also the .csv files:


http://madeup.nl/FOF/Draftcsv.zip
http://madeup.nl/FOF/Rostercsv.zip

thanks Nilodor

How do I upload these files to the game?

[jzicc]

Originally Posted by nilodor

I'm still working on getting the draft balance right

thanks for your work --- just wondering what you mean by draft balance? Are they not set up according to the allocations shown in the help file?

[dr. dru]

Originally Posted by Erik Holland

Now also the .csv files:


http://madeup.nl/FOF/Draftcsv.zip
http://madeup.nl/FOF/Rostercsv.zip

thanks Nilodor

What do the colums in the csv file represent for the draft files?

[korme]

how hard would it be for these to be updated for fof8?

[Billy Beane]

I love these files, still use them often. Just purchased FOF8, haven't checked to see if the files are useable yet, hope they are.

[nilodor]

Originally Posted by korme

how hard would it be for these to be updated for fof8?

Depends how much the input format changes. If it's the same then you might be able to use the previous files, or at worst reconvert the csv files. If it's different then I'd have to make some modifications to the script. Probably wouldn't take more than a couple hours.

Let me know if they work if anyone checks. Not sure when I'll get around to it.

[nilodor]

Just looking at some of the other threads it looks like the csv files would need to be regenerated through the FOF 8 creator.

I might just post the cap numbers I used to generate the rosters.

[Billy Beane]

Originally Posted by nilodor

Just looking at some of the other threads it looks like the csv files would need to be regenerated through the FOF 8 creator.

I might just post the cap numbers I used to generate the rosters.

The cap numbers would be great! Thank you so much!

[LondonSmith]

Have any future draft classes been made/are they compatible with the new version?

[jzicc]

Originally Posted by nilodor

through the FOF 8 creator.

.

Dumb question I'm sure but where is the FOF 8 creator?

[Billy Beane]

Originally Posted by jzicc

Dumb question I'm sure but where is the FOF 8 creator?

It's called Playerfile application in your base Front Office Football Eight folder. (steamlibrary/steamapps/common/Front Office Football Eight)

[eddieballgame]

The "Historical" files are not compatible with FOF8. I would actually pay for the "Historical" files to work.

[Billy Beane]

Originally Posted by eddieballgame

The "Historical" files are not compatible with FOF8. Also, it appears, FOF8 does not use CSV files.
I would actually pay for the "Historical" files to work.

The Player File Generator has an option to import CSV files, as does the Draft File Generator. I'm assuming we'll just import the csv version of the draft files to generate our draft files. If you look at the csv format, the information appears to be the same.

[nilodor]

These were the cap numbers I used. I assumed the cap was 100M in 2004 then added/subtracted 5% to go each way. It works nicely that way with the salary system and cap raises. I wouldn't recommend screwing with these as salaries were assigned based on these numbers and the quality of the player.

Spoiler

1960	117
1961	123
1962	129
1963	135
1964	142
1965	149
1966	157
1967	164
1968	173
1969	181
1970	190
1971	200
1972	210
1973	220
1974	231
1975	243
1976	255
1977	268
1978	281
1979	295
1980	310
1981	326
1982	342
1983	359
1984	377
1985	396
1986	416
1987	436
1988	458
1989	481
1990	505
1991	531
1992	557
1993	585
1994	614
1995	645
1996	677
1997	711
1998	746
1999	784
2000	823
2001	864
2002	907
2003	952
2004	1000
2005	1050
2006	1103
2007	1158
2008	1216
2009	1276
2010	1340
2011	1407
2012	1477
2013	1551

[Billy Beane]

Originally Posted by nilodor

These were the cap numbers I used. I assumed the cap was 100M in 2004 then added/subtracted 5% to go each way. It works nicely that way with the salary system and cap raises. I wouldn't recommend screwing with these as salaries were assigned based on these numbers and the quality of the player.

Thank you Nilodor, you're the best!

[eddieballgame]

Not having any luck with the Player File Generator per the "Historical csv files". Any help would be most welcomed.

[Titletown]

I tried one the historical roster csv files. The error message indicates that Column X is limited to single digits. I checked the column. It contains two- and three-digit numbers. Also, the only rating columns with numbers (for the most part) are Column W and X. Completing Screen Passes and Completing Short Passes. Seems kind of strange that all players would be rated in these categories. So, since I'm new to the game (this being my first purchase), have I done something wrong? Or do the rosters need to be adjusted for FOF8?

[Billy Beane]

You're right Titletown. Just tried to create a roster file for 1992 using my 1992 csv roster file. Error: Line 9, Column, value of 80 is not in field range of 0 to 0.

[Billy Beane]

Tried a different year, this time 1989, Error Line 6, Column, Value of 27 is not in field range of 0 to 0. 1979- Error: Line 1, Column, value of 7 is not in field range of 0 to 0.

I have to be honest, I have no idea what this means.

[eddieballgame]

Interestingly enough, I am able to create a "draftfile1.faf" using the Draft File Generator. When using the "1961d.csv draft file it gives me this:
Conversion Completed 900-player draft file created and ready for use with Front Office Football Eight

[eddieballgame]

I tried swapping out the original players.csv & the the players.fdt files one at a time, as an experiment. The game loaded fine with the Historical players.csv file but the rosters still had the 2016 players. Thus, it appears the game ignores that particular file. When I swapped out the players.fdt file the game would not load, sighting a corrupted file/wrong version.

[Billy Beane]

Originally Posted by eddieballgame

I tried swapping out the original players.csv & the the players.fdt files one at a time, as an experiment. The game loaded fine with the Historical players.csv file but the rosters still had the 2016 players. Thus, it appears the game ignores that particular file. When I swapped out the players.fdt file the game would not load, sighting a corrupted file/wrong version.

The game doesn't load csv files, you edit a csv file and convert it to an fdt file which the game loads. I have a super sick kid and wife today so I'm finding it difficult to find time to start experimenting with editing the csv files to see if I can pinpoint the problem.

[eddieballgame]

Originally Posted by Billy Beane

The game doesn't load csv files, you edit a csv file and convert it to an fdt file which the game loads. I have a super sick kid and wife today so I'm finding it difficult to find time to start experimenting with editing the csv files to see if I can pinpoint the problem.

Yes, the "fdt" file appears to be the issue, what very little I know about this. Good luck with your "experiments". Also, wishing your family good health.

[Billy Beane]

Figured it out. The historical csv files have contracts longer than 5 seasons. Simply highlight columns CJ CK CL CM CN and delete. Save the csv file. Following Nilidor's guide for the salary cap # (and also then lower the minimum salary figures, I just eyeballed 1992 and divided all of those by 3).

[Billy Beane]

Though that really does raise another question. Why doesn't FOF8 recognize contracts longer than 5 seasons? Tyron Smith signed a 10 year contract just a couple years ago, so in the modern game, it's not abnormal, and contracts exceeding 5 years wasn't abnormal in the past either.

[Titletown]

Originally Posted by eddieballgame

Interestingly enough, I am able to create a "draftfile1.faf" using the Draft File Generator. When using the "1961d.csv draft file it gives me this:
Conversion Completed 900-player draft file created and ready for use with Front Office Football Eight

Same here. I'm still having trouble generating the playerfile (even after deleting the contract columns beyond five years). I guess I'll wait for someone smarter than me to figure it out.

[Billy Beane]

Originally Posted by Titletown

Same here. I'm still having trouble generating the playerfile (even after deleting the contract columns beyond five years). I guess I'll wait for someone smarter than me to figure it out.

Tell me what season you're trying to convert and what error you're getting and I'll see what I can do.

[Titletown]

1967. Error: Column X is not a single digit.

[Billy Beane]

Originally Posted by Titletown

1967. Error: Column X is not a single digit.

I didn't experience that error. I deleted the +5 year salary caps and the file converted no problem. You should check your csv file to make sure there isn't anything in your X column.

Here is the 1967 file converted for you:
Dropbox - 1967Titletown.fdt

[Titletown]

Thanks!

[eddieballgame]

Thank you Billy Beane, I shall check this out later.

[Titletown]

Everything's fine now. Playing historical is kind of difficult, though, without being able to modify the league structure and team schedules.

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by BillyBeane

I didn't experience that error. I deleted the +5 year salary caps and the file converted no problem. You should check your csv file to make sure there isn't anything in your X column.

Couple of questions here, because I tried this and got the same problem, with two different years('67 and '60). I want to start sometime in the '60s if I can, probably 1960 itself if you are able to get that one to work and I can't, just because why not?

I kept getting the same 'Column X' error. Also, according to the CSV File Format button, Column V is the Overall Player Rating. This is blank in all of the these files that I've checked. Somehow though the 1967 converted one you linked to I downloaded and tried, and Bart Starr never comes through us a bum or anything.

I'm thinking maybe there's an error in the file format description or something? In any case I'm confused here. Deleting the last four columns as you describe doesn't work, I've tried it repeatedly and the Column X error won't go away. I'd appreciate any ideas or whatnot here.

Thanks.

[eddieballgame]

Converted the "1960.csv" file & it worked. Thanks again, Billy Beane.

[Billy Beane]

Brian Swartz, I'm not sure what files you're looking at. My 1967 file has the V column all filled. Bart Starr is a 5.

[Brian Swartz]

Obviously we have different versions of the files and I have the wrong ones. Yours has one fewer column, missing the 'X' column that I have, and while the players appear to be the same, the contract information is different as well.

I'm wondering you got yours from, if there are multiple links and some perhaps old or faulty? I'll have to mess around with the draft files tomorrow and see if I have similar issues there.

[wthomp]

How do you get the CAP figure to 11 mil? The lowest I can get is 100 to start a new career.

[Billy Beane]

Originally Posted by wthomp

How do you get the CAP figure to 11 mil? The lowest I can get is 100 to start a new career.

The smallest cap figure I can successfully use is 20m (200), because you can't start the rookie salary cap below 100k (10). I'm sorry, I have no idea how to fix this, I'm assuming it is hard coded.

[Billy Beane]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

I'm wondering you got yours from, if there are multiple links and some perhaps old or faulty? I'll have to mess around with the draft files tomorrow and see if I have similar issues there.

I'm sorry, my files are from 2015 and I don't remember where I got them.

[nilodor]

I'll see if I can repost the csv files I have. If you're getting the conversion error, you have the FOF 2K4 files.

I may adjust the salary cap numbers to start at 20M then before I regenerate.