Werewolf XXXI: House of Frankenstein (Game Over)

[saldana]

well....he gave me desert herpes last time we played, so since dubb isnt here

vote lathum

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by saldana

well....he gave me desert herpes last time we played, so since dubb isnt here

vote lathum

some friend you are

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Lathum

The only thing I can think of is he was confused about the timing he had to vote. I'm not sticking up for him, I realize day one is a crapshoot but there are other people who haven't shown up as well, such a noddadrop.

good point...i was thinking about voting for him anyway...if he doesnt show by the deadline, i will most likely switch to him

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Lathum

some friend you are

you started it.

[Grammaticus]

Updated:

Lathum(2) – Blade (1), Saldana (20)
Nodadrop(1) – Lathum (2)
Sndvls(0) – Grammaticus (3)
Chubby(1) – Bulletsponge(4)
Bulletsponge(1) – Chubby (5)
Blade(2) – daddytorgo (6), Sndvls (15)
Chief Rum(3) – Grammaticus (7), Swaggs (12), Molson (13)
Schmidty(2) – Path (8), Greyroofoo (17)
Path(1) – Schmidty (9)
Molson(1) – GoldenEagle (10)
Saldana(1) – Farah (11)
Tanglewood(1) – Dodgerchick (14)
AlanT(1) – Anxiety (16)
Swaggs(1) – Tanglewood (18)
GoldenEagle(1) – Fouts (19)

Not voted – AlanT, Chiefrum, noddadropp

[molson]

unvote Chief Rum

vote Nodadrop

It doesn't look like Nodadrop's posted anywhere in 3 days, and there's so sign of him in this thread. If Chief Rum was a WW, I feel like he would have handled things differently, just a hunch.

This would make a 4-way tie with 2 votes each at the moment, one more for Nodadrop would put him in the lynch lead.

[GoldenEagle]

Unvote molson

Vote Nodadrop

[st.cronin]

1 hour to lynch and my count is:

3 - Noddadrop - Lathum, molson, GoldenEagle
2 - Chief Rum - Grammaticus, Swaggs
2 - Blade - DaddyTorgo, SnDvls
2 - Lathum - Blade, saldana
2 - Schmidty - path12, greyroofoo
1 - Chubby - bulletsponge
1 - bulletsponge - Chubby
1 - path12 - Schmidty
1 - saldana - farrah
1 - tanglewood - dodgerchick
1 - AlanT - Anxiety
1 - Swaggs - tanglewood
1 - GoldenEagle - Fouts

yet to vote:

AlanT, ChiefRum, noddadrop

Let me know if I have made an error.

[Grammaticus]

unvote chief rum

vote tanglewood
keep a good tie going

[Grammaticus]

oops

wrong one
unvote tanglewood

vote blade

[Lathum]

why would you want a tie?

[Fouts]

Yeah, doesn't a tie help the bad guys?

[molson]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Yeah, doesn't a tie help the bad guys?

If I understand right, the "Masons" (who are humans) decide a tie. Masons know who the other Masons are, (and they know that Masons aren't wolves), but the odds of that being relevant with so many living players is small.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Hey, you're right.

Vote Blade

I don't like to be confused.

Okay, rookie question here: does this vote count? He posted it on Saturday.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Okay, rookie question here: does this vote count? He posted it on Saturday.

I am not counting that vote as it was posted before roles were sent out.

[SnDvls]

unvote blade
Vote Nodadrop

[SnDvls]

dola,

a almost for sure no show as others have said hasn't posted in days.
odds are he's a villager, but we have nothing else to go on and at least we'll have active people left.

[saldana]

unvote lathum

vote noddadropp

[saldana]

dola, i was honestly trying to avoid a vote for a first timer, but seeing as how St Cronin is the only one less active over the past week than NDP...

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by saldana

dola, i was honestly trying to avoid a vote for a first timer, but seeing as how St Cronin is the only one less active over the past week than NDP...

Tom Brady needed me.

[Blade6119]

My god, i might actually survive day 1! The WW gods must see fit to end my purgatory!

Although, granted, i was tied for the lynch with 15 minutes to go, so i was still close. Thank you kindly saldana and sndvls, as yet again im not quite sure why i was up for lynch.

[Abe Sargent]

I refuse to vote for Blade today,. for jus that reason

[st.cronin]

10 minutes to lynch/stake and the score is

5 - Noddadrop - Lathum, molson, GoldenEagle, SnDvls, saldana
2 - Blade - Grammaticus, DaddyTorgo
2 - Schmidty - path12, greyroofoo
1 - Lathum - Blade
1 - Chief Rum - Swaggs
1 - Chubby - bulletsponge
1 - bulletsponge - Chubby
1 - path12 - Schmidty
1 - saldana - farrah
1 - tanglewood - dodgerchick
1 - AlanT - Anxiety
1 - Swaggs - tanglewood
1 - GoldenEagle - Fouts

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

My god, i might actually survive day 1! The WW gods must see fit to end my purgatory!

Although, granted, i was tied for the lynch with 15 minutes to go, so i was still close. Thank you kindly saldana and sndvls, as yet again im not quite sure why i was up for lynch.

Will this be your first day 1 to survive?

[tanglewood]

unvote Swaggs

Vote Noddadrop

NOte to newbies: Don't signup to a game and then dissapear for 3 days, you'll get punished. Unless you're the GM of course.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Will this be your first day 1 to survive?

No, but i think i hold the record for most day 1 lynchings. Last game, day 1...game before that, im not sure, but it was nice and early. Im on a bit of a early dead streak, despite not being bad for like 8 games or so.

[Alan T]

Vote Grammaticus

[Grammaticus]

unvote blade

vote AlanT

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

My god, i might actually survive day 1! The WW gods must see fit to end my purgatory!

Although, granted, i was tied for the lynch with 15 minutes to go, so i was still close. Thank you kindly saldana and sndvls, as yet again im not quite sure why i was up for lynch.

you're welcome...you should know by now that i wont let someone that could be valuable die on day one...i think you were up for it just for the simple reason that you are you.

thats what i think too.

[saldana]

dead line

[Fouts]

Interesting exchange between Alan and Grammaticus near the deadline.

[st.cronin]

time check

[st.cronin]

It is a long, anxious day of deliberations and accusations. Old grudges are trotted out, and new ones made. In the end, being from Utah is enough for most of you, and Noddadrop is dragged to the village square for staking. Hardly a whiimper does he give, as your four strongest pin him to the ground and pound a stake through his living heart. Blood spurts, covering you - but alas, you have chosen wrongly, for Noddadrop was a mere villager. A search of his home turns up no clues. Fear and paranoia close around you as the sun sets. Will you be safe tonight? Or will the wolves strike again?

Night 1 has begun ... deadline 9am Eastern time

[saldana]

that was essentially unavoidable, but he added nothing to this point, and every other player was here at some point...easy choice for me.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Interesting exchange between Alan and Grammaticus near the deadline.

Usually the day 1 person who didnt show up is most of the time not a wolf. I went with Gram because he seemed eager to try to force a day 1 tie, and he has taken the "overeager helpful wolf" type role so far today from what i can see.

Its just a day 1 vote, probably nothing much to it and my opinions will change tommorrow. Just voted based on the person who seemed most sneaky based on the little info we did have.

[st.cronin]

It's possible I may be a couple of hours late in the morning processing the night. Of course, if everybody gets their night actions in quickly, I can process right away. Also, unless there are objections, I think I am going to make the Daytime deadline 8:30 pm from here on out.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by saldana

that was essentially unavoidable, but he added nothing to this point, and every other player was here at some point...easy choice for me.

He added one to our ratio of villagers to wolves. That is nothing to shrug off. If it was obvious he was a villager, why take him on day one?

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

He added one to our ratio of villagers to wolves. That is nothing to shrug off. If it was obvious he was a villager, why take him on day one?

How was it obvious? I didn't vote for him, but I understand lynching people who add nothing to help the villagers.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

He added one to our ratio of villagers to wolves. That is nothing to shrug off. If it was obvious he was a villager, why take him on day one?

I think most people would rather kill off a non-helpful villager then take a random shot and kill someone who could be far more useful, be it by role or just their play style.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Usually the day 1 person who didnt show up is most of the time not a wolf. I went with Gram because he seemed eager to try to force a day 1 tie, and he has taken the "overeager helpful wolf" type role so far today from what i can see.

Its just a day 1 vote, probably nothing much to it and my opinions will change tommorrow. Just voted based on the person who seemed most sneaky based on the little info we did have.

How is generating activity a overeager wolf type role? For the wolves it is best to have as little info possilbe out there to go on. So when it is quite and there is low activity, it helps the wolves. By laying up a tie we got to see who moved and where.

[tanglewood]

Bear in mind I'm pretty sure that Noddadrop's most recent post was before roles had been sent out. He could have been a wolf and not known it.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

He added one to our ratio of villagers to wolves. That is nothing to shrug off. If it was obvious he was a villager, why take him on day one?

you can't make an omlette...

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Fouts

How was it obvious? I didn't vote for him, but I understand lynching people who add nothing to help the villagers.

By not showing up and not appearing in the thread, he was very unlikely a wolf. Nothing is for sure, but to be a wolf and not even check the thread would be iron discipline.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I think most people would rather kill off a non-helpful villager then take a random shot and kill someone who could be far more useful, be it by role or just their play style.

Really, if you were pretty sure someone was a villager but generally not very helpful in your eyes, you would rather take them than a shot at a wolf?

[molson]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

By not showing up and not appearing in the thread, he was very unlikely a wolf. Nothing is for sure, but to be a wolf and not even check the thread would be iron discipline.

Why did you vote for Blade?

[molson]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

By not showing up and not appearing in the thread, he was very unlikely a wolf. Nothing is for sure, but to be a wolf and not even check the thread would be iron discipline.

Wait, my bad, you changed your vote last second for Alan T. But the question's the same - since you seem to be putting more stock than others into day one voting, why vote for Blade, then switch to Alan T?

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by molson

Why did you vote for Blade?

See post 240
"By laying up a tie we got to see who moved and where."

You saw Sndvls move off Blade and tag chief rum. Then you saw Saldana move to Chief rum quickly after that. Then you saw Tanglewood pile on cheif rum. That will all mean something over time.

Specifically why did Saldana and tanglewood make the move when they did not need too?

[Grammaticus]

dola,

to specifically answer your question. Blade was the next guy on the list in post 208 with 2 votes where I could make a tie to get things going.

[DaddyTorgo]

imma go hide in my house and hope the wolves don't get me!

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by molson

Wait, my bad, you changed your vote last second for Alan T. But the question's the same - since you seem to be putting more stock than others into day one voting, why vote for Blade, then switch to Alan T?

Day one votes are not useless. Especially if you have a wolf on the ropes. I switched to Alant simply because he voted for me and the Blade vote was not affective as the others piled on chief rum.

Back to wolves on the ropes. In this game, it appears there are a small number of wolves. Usually the villagers have some special roles to assist them. The 2 most notorious are seer and bodyguard. It appears we just have masons who can only break a tie. Based on the weakness of the villager roles, I am guessing we don't have many wolves. That means if one of them were in trouble or had a few votes, movement might occur to protect that wolf.

It is really hard to tell at this point. But a few days from now, what happened today, might have a big impact, versus a day one full of nothing.