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Old 06-01-2020, 07:49 PM   #3601
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The British were the first to use then in Northern Ireland. They were meant to be shot in front of the protest line and skip across the ground. It was why they used rubber. In fact the British stopped using them (and switched to a different method) when they found out soldiers were shooting at people which caused serious injury and death.

The company can state what they want, I am just telling you what rubber bullets were designed for.

Rubber batons and rubber bullets are not the same thing.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:56 PM   #3602
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A rubber bullet is a type of baton round.

Rubber bullet - Wikipedia

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The British developed rubber rounds—the "Round, Anti-Riot, 1.5in Baton"—in 1970 for use against people in Northern Ireland.[9][10] A low power propelling charge gave them a muzzle velocity of about 60 m/s (200 ft/s) and maximum range of about 100 m (110 yd). The intended use is to fire at the ground so that the round bounces up and hits the target on the legs, causing pain but not injury
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:57 PM   #3603
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Old 06-01-2020, 08:05 PM   #3604
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Old 06-01-2020, 08:09 PM   #3605
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Of course not. Neither was getting suffocated to death by an officer while three others stood ideally by.

What’s your point?
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:07 PM   #3606
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:22 PM   #3607
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:30 PM   #3608
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:54 PM   #3609
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Might be a bad incident in Buffalo. Guessing this just happened but we are at a point where it is tough to tell if these are even happening in this country.

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Old 06-01-2020, 10:18 PM   #3610
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Have something new and dumb to gnaw on.

So, by now, most people have seen the video where the couple gets paint shot at them on their own porch in Minneapolis, right?

Refresher:
https://twitter.com/tkerssen/status/1266921821653385225
Please make this go viral. I am begging you. Police and National Guard patrolling neighborhood and shooting civilians on their own property. Make America see this, I beg you. [Minneapolis] : PublicFreakout

So one of the things that the internet noticed was that they went back and amended the FAQ after the fact. It originally said you could be on the own property but then it added a bunch of disclaimers (below).
Minnesota DPS stealthily amends FAQ to state you must go inside if instructed after video of MPD shooting at citizens goes viral : Minneapolis

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Archive link as of May 31st AM:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200531...Pages/faq.aspx
Can I be outside my house (on my property) after 8 p.m. and before 6 a.m.?
Yes.
Current:
https://dps.mn.gov/macc/Pages/faq.aspx
Can I be outside my house (on my property) after 8 p.m. and before 6 a.m.?
Yes. You can be on your porch, yard, patio, etc., but if a law enforcement officer or other public safety official asks you to go inside, or take any other action, you must follow the instruction.

I was showing this to my wife earlier tonight and check out this archive.org link now. It shows the same thing as "current" (i.e. it no longer says "Yes" but the longer "hey, yeah, you can get shot on your porch" that seems like it belongs in r/oddlyspecific).

That's because the link in the Reddit story is gone.

The Reddit thread link: https://web.archive.org/...//dps.mn.gov/macc/Pages/faq.aspx (Timestamp: 2020-05-31 @ 16:57.25)

However, if you go to that link, it takes you to the oldest version on the site now, which is much newer: https://web.archive.org/...//dps.mn.gov/macc/Pages/faq.aspx (Timestamp: 2020-05-31 @ 19:04.34)

So it looks someone even went out of their way to scrub archive.org of the old version. Unless everyone in that thread linked above and this one here (some of the top conversations on this page were about the change) was making stuff up: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...ng_you_police/

The only thing I can find now of the old are this site:
Attention Required! (I have no idea what archive.today even is)

And this screenshot from Twitter:
https://twitter.com/darkswordsmantv/...285184/photo/1

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Old 06-01-2020, 10:24 PM   #3611
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Might be a bad incident in Buffalo. Guessing this just happened but we are at a point where it is tough to tell if these are even happening in this country.
Just happened: a protest in a car run over a group of cops in Buffalo NY...Some of them might be dead

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Two cops were injured but are, thankfully, in stable condition. Driver and passengers are in custody. They also mention 2 people have been shot in the area.

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Old 06-01-2020, 10:28 PM   #3612
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Ok, it's time to end my night on a good note (I almost said "end the night" but then I realized - yeah, this isn't going to be the end of tonight by any stretch).

This is a good thread with potential solutions:

https://twitter.com/samswey/status/1180655701271732224



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Old 06-01-2020, 10:33 PM   #3613
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:52 PM   #3614
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Can someone explain to me why NY set an 11 PM curfew when places like DC and Philly had 6-7 PM ones? You are just rolling out the red carpet to looters by having that late a curfew.
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Old 06-01-2020, 11:10 PM   #3615
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This is assault.

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Old 06-01-2020, 11:34 PM   #3616
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Can someone explain to me why NY set an 11 PM curfew when places like DC and Philly had 6-7 PM ones? You are just rolling out the red carpet to looters by having that late a curfew.

I don't think the NYPD cares much about the looting. They seem to be having a weird protest of their own.
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:33 AM   #3617
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So as this gets further from totally legitimate protest and more towards bands of looters just roaming the streets, what next? Do we just hope this burns itself out after a few nights more and business owners are SOL until then?

I can sympathize with (and even support) legit protests turning violent after heavy handed police work, but I’ve seen so many videos tonight and read about so many smash and grabs here in LA... people are just using the situation for their own ends at this point. Maybe not a popular view, but what I’m seeing and hearing.
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:42 AM   #3618
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So as this gets further from totally legitimate protest and more towards bands of looters just roaming the streets, what next? Do we just hope this burns itself out after a few nights more and business owners are SOL until then?

It won't die down voluntarily. Eventually there will be more Police/National Guard enforcement and it'll be put down.

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I can sympathize with (and even support) legit protests turning violent after heavy handed police work, but I’ve seen so many videos tonight and read about so many smash and grabs here in LA... people are just using the situation for their own ends at this point. Maybe not a popular view, but what I’m seeing and hearing.

Agree. Too much rioting and looting that dilutes the message. Instead for many, right or wrong, it'll be BLM protests = rioting & looting.
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:42 AM   #3619
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Here's another (arguably) police brutality. Starts at about 18 seconds in.

https://twitter.com/kwamerose/status...76478424219650

It's good to see boys in blue having each other back.

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Old 06-02-2020, 12:54 AM   #3620
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Good cops (the est. 95%+) doing their job as best they can under extreme circumstances.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1267629903496859655

This is fun. Have to go to bed. I'll be sure to post more good cops doing the right thing ...

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Old 06-02-2020, 12:57 AM   #3621
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Here's another (arguably) police brutality. Starts at about 18 seconds in.

https://twitter.com/kwamerose/status...76478424219650


It's good to see boys in blue having each other back.

Well fuck, don't hit a cop and the cop she hit took two shots with no response and the cop that hit her tried to restrain her first.
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:57 AM   #3622
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Wouldn't they have credentials they could have presented? All I hear is them saying we are media, which anyone recording could say. I am not excusing it and I know other media outlets that were obviously media have been targeted. But this is a legit question to ask.

Yes they showed credentials before
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:58 AM   #3623
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Yes they showed credentials before

Okay, then yes for sure assault and heavy handed.
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:58 AM   #3624
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Good cops (the est. 95%+) doing their job as best they can under extreme circumstances.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1267629903496859655


This is fun. Have to go to bed. I'll be sure to post more good cops doing the right thing ...

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Make sure to wash the boot taste from your mouth first.
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Old 06-02-2020, 01:01 AM   #3625
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Make sure to wash the boot taste from your mouth first.

I'll try and do my best but don't think I can keep up with your spamming.
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Old 06-02-2020, 01:15 AM   #3626
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I guess a lack of denunciation from the leader of the socialist democrats means tacit approval of the rioting and looting? I guess Bernie supporters believe this also. But nah, I shouldn't exaggerate and characterize all Bernie supporters as bad just because there's just a small percent that are.

Sanders says 'ultra-rich' have been ‘looting’ for 40 years, amid looting of businesses and banks | Just The News
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"The richest 400 Americans sit on $3 trillion – the size of the entire UK economy," Sanders, a Vermont Independent who caucuses with Senate Democrats, tweeted Sunday. "The billionaire class now pays a lower tax rate than people living paycheck to paycheck. The looting of America has been going on for over 40 years – and the culprits are the ultra-rich."

Sanders has not denounced the actions of the violent protestors, who have set fires in cities and looted large retailers such as Target and banks including Chase.

In New York City, looters smashed the windows of luxury retailers and loaded merchandise into vehicles on Sunday. In Washington D.C., businesses in Georgetown and other areas were looted.

The congressional office for Sanders, a democratic socialist, did not respond to an immediate request for comment Monday.

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Old 06-02-2020, 01:18 AM   #3627
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The "good cop" in Baltimore was relieved of his duties for the coldclock. Apparently the woman was mentally ill and not part of any of the protests.

There's like a 100 videos of cops hugging protestors and shit that you could post and you found one where the cop is going to get fired and rung up on charges for. Truly galaxy brained stuff.
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Old 06-02-2020, 01:54 AM   #3628
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Things tense in Seattle. Also learned Washington is an open carry state as some protestors had AR15s with them which is unsettling.



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Old 06-02-2020, 03:00 AM   #3629
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Ok, it's time to end my night on a good note (I almost said "end the night" but then I realized - yeah, this isn't going to be the end of tonight by any stretch).

This is a good thread with potential solutions:

https://twitter.com/samswey/status/1180655701271732224



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Eye opening that some stuff already is working and 'only' needs to be scaled up and adapted to other localities.

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How to reform American police, according to experts - Vox

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I don't think the NYPD cares much about the looting. They seem to be having a weird protest of their own.

They are counter protestors, which in a perverted way makes sense.
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Old 06-02-2020, 06:52 AM   #3630
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The "good cop" in Baltimore was relieved of his duties for the coldclock. Apparently the woman was mentally ill and not part of any of the protests.

I did read the woman was mentally ill. Still good to see a black cop supporting a white cop. If twitter comments are a judge, you are in the vast minority.

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There's like a 100 videos of cops hugging protestors and shit that you could post and you found one where the cop is going to get fired and rung up on charges for. Truly galaxy brained stuff.

Having two LEO's in-laws I feel the need to "fair-and-balance" out your cop-hating spamming. Go ahead and post the good videos in addition to the bad.
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Old 06-02-2020, 07:09 AM   #3631
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Interesting article written in 2012:

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Old 06-02-2020, 07:24 AM   #3632
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Cops trying to stop looters. Unfortunately too many doughnuts but good try.


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Old 06-02-2020, 07:32 AM   #3633
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If only there were some organizeation that rescued the people of countries from their leaders who attack their own people

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Old 06-02-2020, 07:36 AM   #3634
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Cop-hating spamming? He's showing tweets of police brutality! If spreading light on police brutality (which has been overwhelming the last few days - almost showing why there protests are needed) is cop-hating, you are going to push me into the burn it all down crowd.

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Old 06-02-2020, 07:41 AM   #3635
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Here's another (arguably) police brutality. Starts at about 18 seconds in.

https://twitter.com/kwamerose/status...76478424219650

It's good to see boys in blue having each other back.

They are not following grade school street fight protocols. If you assault a police officer, expect to be taken down with force. It would be brutality if they were to continue hitting her after she was knocked down and subdued.
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Old 06-02-2020, 07:48 AM   #3636
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What is happening in the USA... From all the videos we're seeing in the news and on social media, the government/police appears to be treating protesters far worse than our government/police has ever done here in the third world.
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Old 06-02-2020, 07:49 AM   #3637
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Cops tear gassing looters but the looters fight back. Thugs.

https://youtu.be/inr7_C41sRQ

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Old 06-02-2020, 07:55 AM   #3638
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So as this gets further from totally legitimate protest and more towards bands of looters just roaming the streets, what next? Do we just hope this burns itself out after a few nights more and business owners are SOL until then?

I can sympathize with (and even support) legit protests turning violent after heavy handed police work, but I’ve seen so many videos tonight and read about so many smash and grabs here in LA... people are just using the situation for their own ends at this point. Maybe not a popular view, but what I’m seeing and hearing.

Not an unpopular opinion at all IMO.

Here is a thought. Let the protest happen without the heavy handed police tactics. Use the expertise in police work to deal with those people who are using the situation for their own ends. Especially when the legit protestors are telling you as LE who those people are.

Is it difficult? Absolutely.
Is it impossible? Maybe if I am being honest.

Or we can do this.

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Old 06-02-2020, 07:56 AM   #3639
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Cop-hating spamming? He's showing tweets of police brutality! If spreading light on police brutality (which has been overwhelming the last few days - almost showing why there protests are needed) is cop-hating, you are going to push me into the burn it all down crowd.

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It's pretty obvious you already lean to the the burn-it-all-down crowd. No big loss you twxt ... or no, let's just say you are "insane".

(Good to be the first to insult for a change).

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Old 06-02-2020, 08:00 AM   #3640
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95%! That's the funniest thing I've seen on here since the Antmeister song parodies.
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:05 AM   #3641
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Good cops (the est. 95%+) doing their job as best they can under extreme circumstances.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1267629903496859655

This is fun. Have to go to bed. I'll be sure to post more good cops doing the right thing ...

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I feel like with so many things, we're just cross-talking so I'll ask your patience while I think I restate some things that I've probably already said before but to try and put them into context.

You notice those of us who are disappointed and shocked at what we see from the police aren't showing videos of them going after rioters, right? Yes, the job turns a lot tougher at night. No one here is saying "don't arrest looters who are breaking into stores and stealing stuff". Are there going to be brutality problems there? Probably, just by the sheer number of arrests. But, you say "arrest the rioters" and we agree "yes, arrest the rioters".

I think the difference is that you see any protester during the day as a potential rioter at night. I'm starting to feel that way about our police force. I've always subscribed to the "a few bad apples" theory. But this weekend has strained that to the point where I now think it's a systemic problem. (And, yes, I know there are a lot of people who would say "it's about time - what took you so long" - but I'm slow and naive and really want to believe the best in people). Go look at my more than ample posting history on this board. There's nothing like this at all. But what I've seen this weekend has shaken my belief in the institution of policing to the core.

For every fired police chief in Louisville (who was about to retire), there's a police chief in LA saying Floyd's death is on the hands of the rioters "as much as it is those officers" or the VP of the Houston police union saying it was the protesters fault for not getting out of the way of a horse. WHAT?

For every video of police officer laying down arms and joining the protesters, there's a litany of videos of a captain in New York losing his shit on peaceful protesters and ramming them with a barricade or indiscriminately spraying pepper spray out of their car at protesters just milling around or putting a baton into a man's hand (linked just because I hadn't linked to the incident in another place yet like the others) just so they could beat it out of him. But I've seen way too many times where the police took an otherwise peaceful protest and escalated it, seemingly intentionally. And that's to say nothing of the unconscionable assaults on clearly identified media, medics, people on their own property, children.

I really really want to go back to believing that it's just a few bad apples. Because then I can happily believe that all is right in the world: people will protest peacefully by day, the few that won't get arrested with good cause, police will stop the riots at night, and things will start to get better as we can try and fix the problems that started this in the first place.

So, yes, me, as a white male of decent means in a good neighborhood - I'm more afraid of the police right now than I am of the protests and riots. Part of that is that the riots are never getting out to my sleepy little Houston suburb. But the other part of that is that the police can and will.

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EDIT: And here's the thing - all of this also is just sad to me because this isn't about me. This shouldn't be about me. This is about a community that has had this on them for so long that is long past overdue for it to be fixed. But here we are with me worried for my own safety instead of trying to help fix the problem with a group that has had this shit been going on for literal centuries.
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:08 AM   #3642
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Listen Edward is here for the police state. Who cares if they militarize and decide to use police brutality against even peaceful protesters in systemic ways across the country. It's just a few 'bad apples', I guess. Property damage is so much worse than killing black people that even peaceful protests have to be subdued by police violence. They are only doing it against the darkies so he's cool with it.

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Old 06-02-2020, 08:16 AM   #3643
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I don't think it's 95%, but I think Edward64's main point about most cops doing their best is true. It's also obviously true that it just isn't enough. The things posted in this thread do paint a skewed picture. There's shouldn't be a fraction this many blatantly obvious examples nationwide even if this is all of them though. Things like this should be zero-tolerance and exceptionally rare. The fact that they are clearly not demands action.

I view this like a situation that happened some years ago with the charity Feed the Children. Somebody poisoned some supplies they were sending out, and a thorough investigation couldn't pinpoint the offender(s). Their response was to fire everyone it could have been, knowing most were innocent, because it was of paramount importance to ensure whoever it was no longer worked there and couldn't do it again.

Firing every police officer, supervisors etc. responsible for gross and blatant (sometimes criminal) abuses of their power & authority might lead to critical shortages of needed public servants in some jurisdictions. It will probably savage the morale of many who will feel the police as a whole are being maligned, esp. those who are just trying to do their job well. It needs to happen anyway. Unlike some others in this thread I'm not particularly concerned about the prosecution side, because prosecutors are generally more willing to prosecute than juries are to convict (that's the end that needs to change). But police departments can decide not to employ those who can't or won't restrain themselves. It is always better to let some crimes go unanswered than to punish the innocent.

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Old 06-02-2020, 08:33 AM   #3644
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Cops trying to stop looters. Unfortunately too many doughnuts but good try.


Or they were told not to use excessive force. Notice none of them had pepper spray or batons out.
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:39 AM   #3645
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Even if it is 1%, 99% are not doing anything to stop them. That is the problem. We see 3 officers sit and watch their fellow officer murder someone and then drive away like nothing happened.

Below is a video of a cop spitting on someone who has been arrested. This is a crime and blatant abuse of power. None of the fellow cops arrest him. None remove him from the scene. Are they the 1% or 99%?

As to why post police brutality videos? Because this is the police brutality thread. This is a seminal point in time where we are seeing millions protest it and be met with state sponsored violence. The government gassed and beat people in a park to set up a photo shoot for the President yesterday. The Australian government is making a stink that we beat the shit out of their reporters on live TV for no reason.

I'm sure there is a plethora of content for a "cops rule!" thread if that is important. Not sure what it has to do here and this topic.

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Old 06-02-2020, 08:53 AM   #3646
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I think the difference is that you see any protester during the day as a potential rioter at night.

Thank you for this post. I'm sure you sense escalating posts here from both sides with perceived/actual slights and differences in opinion due to background, experiences etc.

I can honestly tell you I do not think your above sentence. In another post I shared that my daughter wanted to do a daytime BLM march and we supported a modified request. I also said that BLM, fair-or-not, has a messaging problem and its "good" stuff is being overwhelmed by the "bad" stuff.

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I'm starting to feel that way about our police force. I've always subscribed to the "a few bad apples" theory. But this weekend has strained that to the point where I now think it's a systemic problem. (And, yes, I know there are a lot of people who would say "it's about time - what took you so long" - but I'm slow and naive and really want to believe the best in people). Go look at my more than ample posting history on this board. There's nothing like this at all. But what I've seen this weekend has shaken my belief in the institution of policing to the core.

Honestly I am still with "a few bad apples". But let's define "few". I'm tossing out 95% good and 5% bad. There is no doubt there are abuses for sure.

What I can say about the cop-hating spamming recently are (1) many of the posts are questionable, it doesn't provide context (2) some of the posts are no-question bad cop. The spamming exaggerates the "bad" police because there is no attempt to counterweight the good they do.

I guess it does come down to how many you believe are bad apples. For me, the 5% does not outweigh the other 95% regardless of how its portrayed in the cop-hating spamming.

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But I've seen way too many times where the police took an otherwise peaceful protest and escalated it, seemingly intentionally.

I would appreciate a links to reports (e.g. not just twitter feeds) and hopefully it will provide context - were protesters told to disperse before.

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And that's to say nothing of the unconscionable assaults on clearly identified media, medics, people on their own property, children.

Yup, no problem in agreeing here. Does the 5% outweigh the 95%. Should there be consideration/forgiveness to some inappropriate, borderline police actions with all things considered?

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I really really want to go back to believing that it's just a few bad apples. Because then I can happily believe that all is right in the world: people will protest peacefully by day, the few that won't get arrested with good cause, police will stop the riots at night, and things will start to get better as we can try and fix the problems that started this in the first place.

So, yes, me, as a white male of decent means in a good neighborhood - I'm more afraid of the police right now than I am of the protests and riots. Part of that is that the riots are never getting out to my sleepy little Houston suburb. But the other part of that is that the police can and will.

I live in suburbia and I am completely opposite from you. I have no fear of police. There are bad ones out there for sure.

Can you help me understand why a while male in decent neighborhood is more afraid of the police and protests & riots? What do you think could happen to you and family?

Another question for context. What do you believe is the swag % of bad cops?


Again, thanks for the post. I would love to have a rational, discussion of problems, possible solutions etc. without spamming or insults. I admit because I have LEO in-laws and take it a little personally, I have contributed to the problem here.

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Old 06-02-2020, 08:55 AM   #3647
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Listen Edward is here for the police state. Who cares if they militarize and decide to use police brutality against even peaceful protesters in systemic ways across the country. It's just a few 'bad apples', I guess. Property damage is so much worse than killing black people that even peaceful protests have to be subdued by police violence. They are only doing it against the darkies so he's cool with it.

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Old 06-02-2020, 08:57 AM   #3648
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95%! That's the funniest thing I've seen on here since the Antmeister song parodies.

Honest question - what is your swag % of bad cops?
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:58 AM   #3649
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Right and it's never about race to you, unless someone actually uses a slur, because your white privilege is so high you can't see over it. Or let's just call a spade a spade, you are just a fucking racist.

I used to think you were just the white moderate that MLK warned about, but no, it's beyond that. The pendantism about racism definitions was just carrying water for white supremacy.

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Old 06-02-2020, 09:00 AM   #3650
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What is happening in the USA... From all the videos we're seeing in the news and on social media, the government/police appears to be treating protesters far worse than our government/police has ever done here in the third world.

No. US is still a great country and a land of opportunity. It does have problems though for sure.

BTW I love Philippines and hoping to go back there. I have visited Manila and Palawan.
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