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Old 01-20-2010, 04:39 PM   #1401
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I disagree with the idea that we started with more than 4 wolves.

yes there are tons of powers and abilities in this game, however that is being balanced by the fact that the wolves can HAVE some of those powers and abilities.

5-1 ratios of men to wolves is pretty standard. Now that does leave the option of a conversion ability somewhere along the way? I'll read through all the rules again to double check whats there but its always a possibility.

Dubb, as strongly as you're coming out here you aren't really helping your own case by not at least listening to other people's analysis. yes you may believe you're right beyond the shadow of a doubt, but quite frankly, this is werewolf and until they are dead, skinned and hanging on our den walls we can never be absolutely sure.

You're going way over the top on this push for what would be wolves 4 and 5? If we write off the idea of a conversion then you're not making any sense at all.

If you insist that both are in fact wolves then you're CERTAIN there was a conversion, and that certainty isn't possible based on what is known in this game at this point. So how do you expect people to support you?

UNVOTE SCHMIDTY

This may well go back, I think Schmidty is furry but its more for his previous night actions than anything else.
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Old 01-20-2010, 04:48 PM   #1402
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Good find KWhit, with RendeR's vote. That means that there are only three people I would possibly vote for: ntn, Jackal, or dubb.
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Old 01-20-2010, 04:54 PM   #1403
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Lets get together on this people.

Best situation, its 7-1 and we have some wiggle room right now.

Worst case its 6-2 and if we're wrong tonight 4-2 tomorrow.

I'm trusting that we only have 1 wolf left at this point, I really don't think we'd have 5 wolves in a 20 player game where another character could convert people to a 3rd team (borg).
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Old 01-20-2010, 04:57 PM   #1404
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Good find KWhit, with RendeR's vote. That means that there are only three people I would possibly vote for: ntn, Jackal, or dubb.

And ntn has this going for him which puts him a bit higher in my trust list.

Day 3:
(461) – RealDeal reveals as Love/Hate Guy
(503) – EagleFan votes RealDeal (RealDeal 1)
(507) – dubb93 votes Autumn (RealDeal 1, Autumn 1)
(511) – Schmidty votes Autumn (Autumn 2, RealDeal 1)
(512) – Darth Vilus votes RealDeal (Autumn 2, RealDeal 2)
(531) – CrimsonFox votes Autumn (Autumn 3, RealDeal 2)
(566) – Autumn reveals as Vampire
(568) – PurdueBrad votes hoopsguy (Autumn 3, RealDeal 2, hoopsguy 1)
(590) – dubb93 reveals as whiny bitch
(591) – dubb93 unvotes Autumn (Autumn 2, RealDeal 2, hoopsguy 1)
(602) – CrimsonFox unvotes Autumn (RealDeal 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1)
(610) – path12 votes RendeR (RealDeal 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1, RendeR 1)
(628) – saldana votes RendeR (RealDeal 2, RendeR 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1)
(648) – ntndeacon votes henry296 (RealDeal 2, RendeR 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1, henry296 1)
(650) – dubb93 votes saldana (RealDeal 2, RendeR 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1, henry296 1, saldana 1)
(657) – Autumn votes saldana (RealDeal 2, RendeR 2, saldana 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1, henry296 1)
(661) – The Jackal votes RealDeal (RealDeal 3, RendeR 2, saldana 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1, henry296 1)
(663) – RealDeal votes saldana (RealDeal 3, saldana 3, RendeR 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1, henry296 1)
(665) – EagleFan unvotes RealDeal, votes RendeR (saldana 3, RendeR 3, RealDeal 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1, henry296 1)
(670) – hoopsguy votes RendeR (RendeR 4, saldana 3, RealDeal 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1, henry296 1)
(672) – henry296 votes RendeR (RendeR 5, saldana 3, RealDeal 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1, henry296 1)
(674) – Autumn unvotes saldana, votes PurdueBrad (RendeR 5, saldana 2, RealDeal 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1, henry296 1, PurdueBrad 1)
(676) – RealDeal unvotes saldana, votes RendeR (RendeR 6, saldana 2, RealDeal 2, Autumn 1, hoopsguy 1, henry296 1, PurdueBrad 1)
(678) – PurdueBrad unvotes hoopsguy (RendeR 6, saldana 2, RealDeal 2, Autumn 1, henry296 1, PurdueBrad 1)
(681) – Lathum votes PurdueBrad (RendeR 6, saldana 2, RealDeal 2, PurdueBrad 2, Autumn 1, henry296 1)
(687) – PurdueBrad votes RealDeal (RendeR 6, RealDeal 3, saldana 2, PurdueBrad 2, Autumn 1, henry296 1)
(690) – CrimsonFox votes RendeR (RendeR 7, RealDeal 3, saldana 2, PurdueBrad 2, Autumn 1, henry296 1)

Day 4:
(766) - Saldana votes PB (PB 1)
(780) - Saldana unvotes PB, votes CF (CF 1)
(789) - Path votes Saldana (CF 1, Saldana 1)
(793) - Lathum votes CF (CF 2, Saldana 1)
(799) - Path unvotes Saldana (CF 2)
(807) - Real Deal vote/unvote/vote KWhit
(814) - Real Deal killed by KWhit
(838) - DV votes Hoops (CF 2, Hoops 1)
(839) - KWhit votes The Jackal (CF 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1)
(845) - CF votes Saldana (CF 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, Saldana 1)
(851) - The Jackal votes KWhit (CF 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, Saldana 1, KWhit 1)
(855) - Autumn votes Schmidty (CF 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, Saldana 1, KWhit 1, Schmidty 1)
(862) - RendeR votes Saldana (CF 2, Saldana 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1, Schmidty 1)
(863) - J23 votes Schmidty (CF 2, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1)
(869) - Henry votes CF (CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1)
(870) - NTN votes CF (CF 4, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1)
(875) - Hoops votes DV (CF 4, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1, DV 1)
(879) - PB votes Saldana (CF 4, Saldana 3, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1, DV 1)
(894) - PB unvotes Saldana (CF 4, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1, DV 1)
(895) - PB votes KWhit (CF 4, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, DV 1)
(902) - PB unvotes KWhit (CF 4, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, DV 1)
(905) - PB votes Saldana (CF 4, saldana 3, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, DV 1)
(917) - NTN unvotes CF (CF 3, Saldana 3, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, DV 1)
(927) - PB unvotes Saldana, votes Henry (CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, DV 1, Henry 1)
(928) - KWhit unvotes The Jackal, votes Henry (CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Henry 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, DV 1)
(938) - Path votes Henry (CF 3, Saldana 3, Henry 3, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, DV 1)
(946) - CF unvotes Saldana, votes Henry (Henry 4, CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, DV 1)
(951) - NTN votes Henry (Henry 5, CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, DV 1)
(954) - Hoops unvotes DV, votes Henry (Henry 6, CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1)
(959) - Autumn unvotes Schmidty, votes Henry (Henry 7, CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 1, KWhit 1, Hoops 1)
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Old 01-20-2010, 05:11 PM   #1405
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I really don't think we'd have 5 wolves in a 20 player game where another character could convert people to a 3rd team (borg).

I don't think the borg role had any bearing on balance at all. Infact I'd say it is a pretty long shot to have that win anyway. On top of that no one knew they were converted. Sounds like a non-factor to me.
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:07 PM   #1406
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Yeah, I designed the Borg to be a very long shot. A lot of things would have had to happen to one person without them being killed for it to work.
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:29 PM   #1407
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KWhit, I look at ntn's and see something else though. I see a middle of the pack, no matter vote on a fifth candidate and then I see him jump in on that last scramble, just three posts ahead of Hoops (a wolf), at choosing to bury the lost cause wolf. I'm still no quite ready to give ntn a pass there.
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:49 PM   #1408
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VOTE THE JACKAL

If he is good, dubb is my next vote.
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:52 PM   #1409
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KWhit, I look at ntn's and see something else though. I see a middle of the pack, no matter vote on a fifth candidate and then I see him jump in on that last scramble, just three posts ahead of Hoops (a wolf), at choosing to bury the lost cause wolf. I'm still no quite ready to give ntn a pass there.

I agree. But those actions put him a slight bit higher than Dubb or Jackal for me.
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:03 PM   #1410
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VOTE THE JACKAL

If he is good, dubb is my next vote.

If he's good (which I assume is true) then I'm dead at night; therefore, you're lynching two villagers for the price of one in a way.
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:06 PM   #1411
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I have been busier than I thought I would be this early into the new school year. In terms of this lynch, I am really flipping a coin about which is wolfish.
Vote Jackal
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:07 PM   #1412
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I have

Dubb 4
Jackal 2

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Old 01-20-2010, 07:23 PM   #1413
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4 to 3 now
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:30 PM   #1414
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So based on the votes right now you all aren't considering Schmidty tonight, So do we want to make this a tight vote and see what shakes out or do we want to just slam the door on Dubb now and take care of the results tomorrow?
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:41 PM   #1415
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Alrighty then, no responses from anyone, no one but a dead guy and the game runner logged in....fuckit.


VOTE DUBB

We'll sort out the mess in the morning.
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:53 PM   #1416
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Unvote Schmidty
Vote Jackal


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Old 01-20-2010, 07:54 PM   #1417
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After I'm gone make sure you lynch Jackal and Schmidty the next two days.
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:55 PM   #1418
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RendeR, now is the time to make the right decision and get a wolf.
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:57 PM   #1419
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5 guests in thread. LOL, gj wolves. Way to buy yourselves another day.
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:01 PM   #1420
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Deadline?
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:03 PM   #1421
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Welp, nice job wolf.
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:04 PM   #1422
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:05 PM   #1423
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Final vote is 5 for Dubb and 4 for Jackal.
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:07 PM   #1424
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Dubb is lynched and was a wolf.

Path is night killed and was the resurrectionist and a villager
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:08 PM   #1425
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Day 9 deadline is tomorrow at 9pm eastern.
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:11 PM   #1426
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?

I thought it was a tie after his last minute change.

Yay, I was wrong!!!!
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:11 PM   #1427
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DOH, so much for my "only 4 wolves" commentary.

At least we got that one.

So....who's next?
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:12 PM   #1428
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Nice try dubb!! And you did a really good job acting out against me.
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:12 PM   #1429
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DOH, so much for my "only 4 wolves" commentary.

At least we got that one.

So....who's next?

Someone under the radar is my guess.
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:14 PM   #1430
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Lots of "Guests" looking at the thread.
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:21 PM   #1431
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YES!!!!!

F YOU WOLF!


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Old 01-20-2010, 08:57 PM   #1432
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Well done!!!!! We're on a sweet roll.
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:58 PM   #1433
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Fellas, this was my last game and I'm pretty happy with how it turned out. It's been fun. Now get that goddamn wolf!
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:59 PM   #1434
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Path, drop by and say hi from time to time. You'll be missed.
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:09 PM   #1435
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Yeah, this "last game" crap sucks.
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:09 PM   #1436
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Yeah, this "last game" crap sucks.

Meant in the nicest way possible, of course.
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:21 PM   #1437
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Yeah, this "last game" crap sucks.

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Old 01-20-2010, 10:19 PM   #1438
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Go Village!!!
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:19 PM   #1439
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:33 AM   #1440
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Fellas, this was my last game and I'm pretty happy with how it turned out. It's been fun. Now get that goddamn wolf!


Great to meet ya Path! Great game!

Come back soon!
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:49 AM   #1441
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Schmidty, we're going to need you to start going back and using your power again. I'll go with the fact that Schmidty, Darth, and I are good. I'm leaning that KWhit is good. That leaves RendeR, Jackal, and ntn. I'm in favor of voting one of them off and having Schmidty put another on ice to see if we can get lucky one way or another.

Also, do we know one way or another what everyone's roles are that are left?
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:06 AM   #1442
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Me- Gladiator
KWhit- Vengeful God
Schmidty- Mobster
Darth- Schizo
ntn-?
Jackal-?
RendeR-?

Sorry, can't remember or don't know the bottom three.
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:09 AM   #1443
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Okay, it's the aware, the soothsayer, and the survivor left. RendeR was the survivor I believe, making Jackal the soothsayer (didn't he clear Schmidty?), and ntn the aware.
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:09 AM   #1444
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PurdueBrad- Gladiator
KWhit- Vengeful God
Schmidty- Mobster
Darth- Schizo
ntn-Aware
Jackal-Soothsayer
RendeR-Survivor
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:11 AM   #1445
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I'm going to throw my vote out there early and see what happens:

vote ntn
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:14 AM   #1446
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PB - Good
KWhit - Good
Schmidty - Good
Darth Vilus - Good

Jackal - Probably Good

RendeR - Dunno
ntndeacon - Dunno


Here's a quick and dirty list of my trust list. RendeR had a couple of key votes on Hoopsguy, so I'm willing to look the other way right now and go with ntndeacon for now.

VOTE NTNDEACON
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:15 AM   #1447
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Cool - I didn't see your vote before I submitted my post, by the way. i'm glad to see we're on the same page, cause you're one of the people I trust.
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:27 AM   #1448
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I just went back and looked over a bunch of stuff. I feel pretty strongly that ntn is our last wolf.

It's still possible that The Jackal and Dubb were staging that stuff yesterday, but I doubt that the Jackal would be pushing so hard for the "lynch me first" angle he was stating yesterday, so I feel that he's good.

RendeR could be bad, but his votes on Hoopsguy on day 1 and day 7 could have easily led to him getting lynched. They weren't throw-away votes at all.

So ntn is loooking like the most likely wolf by far, IMO.
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:56 AM   #1449
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This thread is dead.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:29 AM   #1450
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Just arrived. Very pleased with the way things went last night!

It does look like all info points at NTN being the last wolf, and if not, someone tried to screw hoops pretty early on as another wolf.

VOTE NTN
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