NCAA Pick 5 - v4

[wade moore]

The previous organizer appears to have not done this, and I always liked it.

I know we've only got 2 hours left, but I want to try and get people in it.


Here are the links to the previous competitions (I'll add 2010 in a bit):

2006 (Winner: TazFTW, 83 pts.)
ANOTHER NCAA tourney game - Front Office Football Central

2007 (Winner: ram, 89 pts.)
NCAA "Pick 5" - Year 2 - Front Office Football Central

2009 (Winner: mauboy1 - 87 pts.)
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ight=ncaa+pick

Rules

You pick five teams from this year's NCAA Tournament field. Points are awarded based on how far each of your teams advance, with bonus points given based on the team's seed. You get one point for winning in the first round, 2 for the second, 3 for the regional semis, 4 for the regional finals, 5 for the national semifinal, and 6 for the national championship. Then, for each game your team wins, you get points that match the number of seed they are.

For example, say you picked North Carolina (a No. 1 seed), and they advanced to the Final Four. You would get: (1+1) + (2+1) + (3+1) + (4+1) = 14 points for selecting the Tar Heels. Or, if you pick Belmont, and they win 2 games, they would get (15+1) + (15+2) = 33 points.

As you can see, a well placed 10+ seeded team notching an upset or two is just as valuable as a 1 or 2 seed going to the Final 4.

Good luck, everyone! Any questions, just post them here. Post your picks here, too.

If you want to change your picks, just edit your post. Any posts with an edit time of after Thursday, noon Eastern will be ruled ineligible.

The opening round game does not count, for purposes of this game.

I will try to update every day, as allowable by my work schedule.

[wade moore]

Player	Total	Tms left
gstelmack	20	3
Arles	16	5
kingfc22	16	4
Coffee Warlord	16	3
ntndeacon	15	5
Chief Rum	15	5
spleen1015	14	4
Keets 14	14	5
BillyNYC	14	5
wademoore	12	5
JonInMiddleGA	9	4
Logan	8	4
ram	7	5
Marmel	6	5
henry296	6	4
CU Tiger	4	4
timmynausea	3	5
Lathum	2	3
lynchjm24	2	5
QuikSand	0	3

[wade moore]

My Picks:
Duke (1)
West Virginia (2)
Old Dominion (11)
Cornell (12)
Syracuse (1)

[ntndeacon]

Cornell (12)
St. Mary's (10)
Xavier (6)
Baylor (3)
West Virginia (2)

[Chief Rum]

Villanova (2)
Xavier (6)
Washington (11)
Utah State (12)
Wisconsin (4)

[Lathum]

Kansas-1
Georgetown-3
UTEP-12
West Virgina-2
Duke-1

[spleen1015]

Murray St. (13)
Siena (13)
Texas(8)
Wisconsin(4)
Duke(1)

[wade moore]

I'm thinking of letting sign-ups go until about 1:00. The 3 games that will have started will be around halftime. Seems minimal impact to pick up a few extra entries. We've had a lot of entries in past seasons, hoping we can get at least say 15 this year.

[gstelmack]

Georgetown (3)
Texas (8)
Siena (13)
Old Dominion (11)
BYU (7)

[Arles]

I'll go with:

Kansas (1)
Duke (1)
West Virginia (2)
Wisconsin (4)
Murray St (13)

[Marmel]

Kansas (1)
Siena (13)
Syracuse (1)
West Virginia (2)
Baylor (3)

[wade moore]

Also - I PMd Butter to see if he already has a spreadsheet built for this. If not, I'll build one - but it may mean day 1 score updating will be delayed cause I'd likely do it tonight.

[timmynausea]

Villanova - 2
Minnesota - 11
Cornell - 12
Utah State - 12
Louisville - 9

[lynchjm24]

Siena (13)
West Virginia (2)
Kansas (1)
Cornell (12)
Louisville (9)

[QuikSand]

12 Utah State
12 UTEP
7 Richmond
11 San Diego St
6 Xavier

[CU Tiger]

Kansas
Clemson
Texas
Michigan State
Kentucky

[kingfc22]

Kansas (1)
West Virginia (2)
Georgetown (3)
Siena (13)
Murray St. (13)

[BillyNYC]

Kansas (1)
Minnesota (11)
Utah State (12)
Cornell (12)
Washington (11)

[Chief Rum]

My bro's off board, but he would like in. You can put him down as Keets 14.

His picks:

Cal (8)
Ohio State (2)
Maryland (4)
Texas A&M (5)
Murray State (13)

[henry296]

Kansas (1)
Baylor (3)
Utah State (12)
Wisconsin (4)
Marquette (6)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Kansas (1)
West Virginia (2)
Notre Dame (6)
Tennessee (6)
Georgia Tech (10)

[ram]

Kansas (1)
Kentucky (1)
Syracuse (1)
Villanova (2)
Sienna (13)

[Logan]

Syracuse (1)
West Virginia (2)
Georgetown (3)
BYU (7)
Louisville (9)

[Coffee Warlord]

Kansas (1)
Kentucky (1)
Georgetown (3)
Vanderbilt (4)
Old Dominion (11)

[wade moore]

4 minutes!

[wade moore]

Closed.
Got the spreadsheet from Butter, so I'll work on updating it - still might be tonight before I have everyone in there cause of work.

[wade moore]

First Scoring update (right after the Georgetown game finished) - a few people getting double digit seed wins already - gstelmack in the early lead getting an 11 (ODU) and a 7 (Butler) right - although he loses Georgetown early which I'm guessing wasn't part of the plan.

[wade moore]

Player	Total	Tms left
gstelmack	20	4
ntndeacon	15	5
spleen1015	14	5
Arles	14	5
kingfc22	14	4
Keets 14	14	5
Coffee Warlord	14	3
wademoore	12	5
Logan	8	4
ram	5	5
Marmel	4	5
henry296	4	5
Chief Rum	3	5
timmynausea	3	5
CU Tiger	2	5
Lathum	0	3
lynchjm24	0	5
QuikSand	0	3
BillyNYC	0	5
JonInMiddleGA	0	4

[henry296]

Originally Posted by wade moore

First Scoring update (right after the Georgetown game finished) - a few people getting double digit seed wins already - gstelmack in the early lead getting an 11 (ODU) and a 7 (Butler) right - although he loses Georgetown early which I'm guessing wasn't part of the plan.

Butler is a 5 seed not a 7.

[wade moore]

Sorry -BYU, not Butler.

[wade moore]

After Day 1:

Player	Total	Tms left
gstelmack	20	3
Arles	16	5
kingfc22	16	4
Coffee Warlord	16	3
ntndeacon	15	5
Chief Rum	15	5
spleen1015	14	4
Keets 14	14	5
BillyNYC	14	5
wademoore	12	5
JonInMiddleGA	9	4
Logan	8	4
ram	7	5
Marmel	6	5
henry296	6	4
CU Tiger	4	4
timmynausea	3	5
Lathum	2	3
lynchjm24	2	5
QuikSand	0	3

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by wade moore

although he loses Georgetown early which I'm guessing wasn't part of the plan.

Nope, Georgetown fooled me with the strong season finish, so they were expected to go a few rounds. This is how this game goes with me though: a few early upsets, then I fade as I lose all my teams early.

Oh yeah, and Texas was supposed to win at least 1.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Nope, Georgetown fooled me with the strong season finish, so they were expected to go a few rounds. This is how this game goes with me though: a few early upsets, then I fade as I lose all my teams early.

Oh yeah, and Texas was supposed to win at least 1.

Yeah, I tried a little bit different strategy this year to hopefully avoid the same thing - which is what usually happens to me as well.

[Logan]

Gotta love QS...high risk, high reward.

[lynchjm24]

Originally Posted by Logan

Gotta love QS...high risk, high reward.

Not to kick him when he's down, but he only has 2 teams left.

I counted 6 w/ Cornell.... let's see if they hold on.

[wade moore]

Player Total Tms left
ntndeacon 38 5
wademoore 28 5
BillyNYC 27 4
Chief Rum 22 5
gstelmack 20 3
Arles 19 5
kingfc22 19 4
lynchjm24 18 5
Coffee Warlord 16 3
timmynausea 16 4
spleen1015 14 4
Keets 14 14 5
JonInMiddleGA 12 4
Logan 11 4
Marmel 9 5
ram 7 5
QuikSand 7 3
henry296 6 4
Lathum 5 3
CU Tiger 4 4

[wade moore]

Player	Total	Tms left
ntndeacon	38	5
wademoore	28	5
Chief Rum	27	4
BillyNYC	27	3
Arles	24	5
gstelmack	20	2
Keets 14	20	5
kingfc22	19	3
spleen1015	19	3
lynchjm24	18	4
Coffee Warlord	16	3
timmynausea	16	3
JonInMiddleGA	12	4
Logan	11	4
henry296	11	3
Marmel	9	4
ram	7	4
QuikSand	7	2
Lathum	5	3
CU Tiger	4	3

[gstelmack]

Sigh for Siena. Well, I guess I'm an ODU and BYU fan the rest of the way...

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by Logan

Gotta love QS...high risk, high reward.

Does anyone remember who finished in 4th place out of 20 entries in any of these contests, ever? What the fuck is the point in that? Sadly, I really did think about some of the longer-odds teams who did win (ODU and Cornell in particular) but somehow started looking for places where I thought I might get two wins, and might have been lured off the one true path.

But really now, what's the difference between 18th and 4th place?

[wade moore]

After the first round:

Player	Total	Tms left
ntndeacon	38	5
Keets 14	37	5
wademoore	32	5
Chief Rum	27	4
BillyNYC	27	3
Arles	26	5
JonInMiddleGA	23	4
spleen1015	21	3
gstelmack	20	2
kingfc22	19	3
lynchjm24	18	3
Coffee Warlord	16	3
timmynausea	16	2
Logan	13	3
henry296	11	3
Marmel	11	4
CU Tiger	10	3
ram	9	4
QuikSand	7	1
Lathum	7	3

[wade moore]

So 4 players with 5 teams left. The biggest potential here is for ntndeacon with several lower seeds winning and still alive. At this point it seems that a Cornell win could pull ntndeacon and myself into a group ahead of everyone else, while a Murray St. win would do the same for Keets 14 and Arles.

[lynchjm24]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Does anyone remember who finished in 4th place out of 20 entries in any of these contests, ever? What the fuck is the point in that? Sadly, I really did think about some of the longer-odds teams who did win (ODU and Cornell in particular) but somehow started looking for places where I thought I might get two wins, and might have been lured off the one true path.

But really now, what's the difference between 18th and 4th place?

Unless I missed something, what's the difference between 1st place and 18th place?

[ntndeacon]

woohoo wtg St. Mary's!

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by lynchjm24

Unless I missed something, what's the difference between 1st place and 18th place?

You do this for a clear purpose.

To crush yoiur enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

Do you get that for second place? I think not. Play to win.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

woohoo wtg St. Mary's!

And deacon is running away with it right now..

Player	Total	Tms left
ntndeacon	55	5
Chief Rum	40	3
BillyNYC	40	2
Keets 14	37	4
wademoore	32	4
JonInMiddleGA	31	3
Arles	26	3
spleen1015	21	2
gstelmack	20	1
kingfc22	19	1
lynchjm24	18	2
Coffee Warlord	16	1
timmynausea	16	1
henry296	16	2
Marmel	16	3
Logan	13	3
CU Tiger	10	2
ram	9	2
QuikSand	7	1
Lathum	7	2

[wade moore]

Through 5:20 Sunday:

Player	Total	Tms left
ntndeacon	72	5
BillyNYC	54	2
wademoore	52	4
Chief Rum	40	2
Keets 14	40	3
lynchjm24	35	2
JonInMiddleGA	34	2
timmynausea	30	1
Arles	29	2
kingfc22	22	1
Marmel	22	3
spleen1015	21	1
gstelmack	20	0
Logan	19	2
CU Tiger	17	2
Coffee Warlord	16	1
henry296	16	1
ram	12	2
Lathum	10	2
QuikSand	7	1

I think it's unlikely anyone catches Deacon - if Xavier wins today he may have clinched it, or at least clinched for all intents and purposes. For perspective, previous years winners had 83, 89, and 87 points.

[lynchjm24]

My wife is going to be so pissed she has to lament.

[wade moore]

deacon is just running away. Xavier wins..

Player Total Tms left ntndeacon 80 5 wademoore 55 4 BillyNYC 54 2 Chief Rum 48 2 Keets 14 40 1 lynchjm24 35 2 JonInMiddleGA 34 2 Arles 32 2 timmynausea 30 1 spleen1015 24 1 kingfc22 22 1 Marmel 22 3 gstelmack 20 0 CU Tiger 20 2 Logan 19 2 Coffee Warlord 19 1 henry296 16 1 ram 15 2 QuikSand 15 1 Lathum 13 2

[wade moore]

I think the only chance for deacon to lose is for all of his teams to flame out next round and Washington to win a couple more games.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Cornell (12)
St. Mary's (10)
Xavier (6)
Baylor (3)
West Virginia (2)

No kidding, that is pretty sick.