The Betting Game

[Airhog]

I have an idea for a betting game. We will try this on a monthly basis. Here's how it works

1. You sign up, and I give you 1000 virtual dollars.

2. I will post 3-4 sporting events every week, and the line for you to bet on.

3. Your goal is to make as much cash in the month as possible. At the beginning of each month we will determine a winner. Cash totals will not reset at the beginning of the month unless you have less than 100 dollars. I Am hoping that we can do this for the rest of the year and declare a winner then, especially if interest is still decent. If interest wanes, then we will end on the last day of whatever month I decide,

4. If you have less than than 100 dollars at the beginning of the month, you will be given enough money to total 100 bucks.

5. You cannot activate this last rule, unless you have no bets due during the next month. This is to prevent people from getting free cash.

6.I may post some fun bets that pertain to FOFC members, dynasties, etc. If I do decide to post anything like this, all bets will be made via PM to not affect the outcome. I will also declare any such bets as being a private bet only.

7. You can either post your bet here, or via a PM, but only for bets that do not pertain to FOFC Members. Those bets will taken via PM only. I will not post any privately made bets until after the results of the bet are known, or if I have the time, before the event starts.

8. All bets must be made at least 15 minutes before the event starts. On some bets I may set a mandatory time limit to place, especially if the bet doesnt have one to being with. I will make every effort to post most bets at least 24 hours in advance of an event. This should give most everyone a chance to play.

9. Please do not edit your posts where you declare a bet. If you decide to bet more on the same type of bet, then feel free to add another post. Any edited posts will be declared null and void and will not count.

10. One final rule. In order to declare a winner, you must wager at least 40% of your starting bankroll in order to be declared the winner. I dont really want someone to signup and never play and somehow manage to win. You do not have to wager all 400 dollars at once, you could make any number of bets that equals 400 dollars. Also, the outcome of the bets is not important here, simply placing the bets is enough.

If you see some sort of wierd sporting event that you think we should get a crack at, feel free to PM me.

Standings

Name	Cash	Total Amount Bet	Total Amount Won	Total Amount Lost	Amount Won this month	Amount lost this month
George W. Bush	1030.00	30.00	60.00	0.00	60.00	0.00
sooner333	1007.70	30.00	37.70	10.00	37.70	10.00
TheLionKing	980.00	40.00	20.00	30.00	20.00	10.00
Sublime2	970.00	50.00	20.00	0.00	20.00	0.00
EaglesFan27	800.00	200.00	0.00	100.00	0.00	100.00
B&B	1000.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00
scoobz0202	1000.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00
Desnudo	1000.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00
Lathum	1000.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00
Chinaski	1000.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00
Radii	950.00	50.00	0.00	50.00	0.00	50.00
Airhog	970.00	30.00	0.00	10.00	0.00	10.00

MLB
4/14 7:05 ET
Yankee's -150
Red Sox's +130


NBA
4/14 8:00 ET
New York +8.5
Cleveland - 8.5


Arena Football
4/15 7:30ET
Grand Rapids +18
Georgia -18

Closes at 4-15-2005
2005 World Series Championship
Team	Lines
Atlanta Braves	17-1
Boston Red Sox	11-2
Florida Marlins	18-1
Arizona Diamondbacks	60-1
Colorado Rockies	400-1
Chicago White Sox	40-1
Cincinnati Reds	65-1
Chicago Cubs	15-1
Cleveland Indians	40-1
Baltimore Orioles	70-1
Pittsburgh Pirates	180-1
New York Mets	25-1
Houston Astros	45-1
New York Yankees	5-2
Oakland Athletics	45-1
St Louis Cardinals	10-1
San Francisco Giants	25-1
Philadelphia Phillies	45-1
Seattle Mariners	40-1
Milwaukee Brewers	300-1
Los Angeles Dodgers	40-1
Los Angeles Angels	15-1
San Diego Padres	25-1
Detroit Tigers	70-1
Kansas City Royals	500-1
Minnesota Twins	18-1
Tampa Bay Devil Rays	300-1
Texas Rangers	75-1
Washington Nationals	275-1

Samsung/Radio Shack 500
Sunday, April 17, 2005
ODDS PROVIDED BY SPORTSBOOK.COM
Driver	Odds
Jimmie Johnson	5-1
Jeff Gordon	7-1
Kasey Kahne	8-1
Greg Biffle	10-1
Kurt Busch	12-1
Tony Stewart	12-1
Ryan Newman	12-1
Dale Earnhardt Jr.	12-1
Matt Kenseth	13-1
Carl Edwards	13-1
Mark Martin	15-1
Elliott Sadler	15-1
Joe Nemechek	18-1
Kevin Harvick	18-1
Jeremy Mayfield	25-1
Jamie McMurray	25-1
Brian Vickers	30-1
Rusty Wallace	30-1
Dale Jarrett	30-1
Bobby Labonte	35-1
Casey Mears	40-1
Jeff Burton	40-1
Kyle Busch	40-1
Sterling Marlin	50-1
Scott Riggs	50-1
Ricky Rudd	50-1
Michael Waltrip	50-1
Dave Blaney	75-1
Bobby Hamilton Jr.	100-1
Jeff Green	100-1
Mike Bliss	100-1
Scott Wimmer	100-1
Jason Leffler	100-1
Field ( Any Other Driver )	40-1

Shane Mosley v David Estrada
Closing Date: Apr 23, 2005 20:00 GMT -4
Welterweight Fight from the Caesar's Palace, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
Shane Mosley -1000
David Estrada +450
Draw +2200

[Joe]

sounds interesting. i'm down.

[Radii]

i'm definitely in

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm up for this.

[sooner333]

I am willing to do this.

[TLK]

Count me in....

[Lathum]

I'm in. Whatever I ber here, I'll just bet the oppisite in real money and I'm guarenteed to run away with this contest.

[Airhog]

Okay, I think thats a good number to start off with. I will try to post some games for next week by sunday afternoon. Also, If you have a paticular event you would like to see offered let me know, I might throw a few of these in, if they are off the beaten path as far as sports goes.

[Airhog]

Dola Here, but I will try to post the site I use for each line. I may pick one or 2 sites to use regularly, and then go with some other sites for more zany bets.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'll put 100 on Jimmie Johnson to win.

[sooner333]

I'll put 10 on Tony Stewart

but, should we be Pmming bets, to avoid situations where people will just duplicate people's bets behind them to avoid losing a lead?

[Joe]

I think so guys, considering:

Originally Posted by Airhog

I have an idea for a betting game. We will try this on a monthly basis. Here's how it works

You sign up, I give you 1000 virtual dollars. I will post 3-4 sporting events every week, and the line for you to bet on. Your goal is to make as much cash in the month as possible. At the beginning of each month we will determine a winner. Cash totals will not reset at the beginning of the month unless you have less than 100 dollars. If you have less than this amount, you will be given enough money to total 100 bucks. However, one rule does apply. You cannot activate this last rule, unless you have no bets outstanding. I may post some fun bets that pertain to FOFC members. If I do decide to post anything like this, all bets should be made via PM to not affect the outcome. Once we get some signups, I will start posting some wagers.

[Joe]

but maybe you guys are posting them to throw everyone else off and make us lose money.. nice strategy.

[Eaglesfan27]

I thought the PM'ing of bets was to not affect the behavior of people on FOFC that we were betting on.

[Joe]

hmm perhaps. could throw things off regardless. I took it to mean that he was saying if he decided to do anything like this, the "this" was meaning the whole thing, so to PM all bets.

[Eaglesfan27]

I didn't make that assumption, because he had already decided to do the whole thing. He was looking for signups. The "this" immediately comes after the sentence about doing bets on FOFC participants. Therefore, it would be a natural assumption to assume that, the clause about PM'ing bets specifically referred to FOFC member bets.

However, I could see some advantages of making bets private. What might be more interesting is to have the option to either PM your bet or make it public. Adds another level of potential strategy.

[Joe]

or we could post fake bets and pm the real ones

[chinaski]

how could i turn this down? count me in.

[Airhog]

Hmm Let me clarify the rules some folks!

[Airhog]

I updated the rules for everyone, hopefully those are clear. Also I have decided to play aswell. Since I consider myself a total betting noob, dont expect me to even to well.

My first bet will be 10 dollars on mark martin. I love this guy, and he has won here a few times before.

[TLK]

Put me down for $30 on Riggs

[Radii]

I'll take $10 on Earnhardt, JR I gues.

[Eaglesfan27]

Just to clarify, if I put money on a team to win the World Series and later fall below 100 dollars, I won't be able to get back to 100 dollars until after the World Series is over?

[Airhog]

EaglesFan: After looking at the rule in another light, I changed it slightly so it is more consistent. I dont want to discourage anyone from betting on the long bets, because they are afraid they might run out of cash down the line. Changing the rule should accomplish this, and keep people from making bets just to get some free cash.

[Airhog]

One question I have for those playing. What kind of sporting events would you most like to see? If I only post bets that intrest me, then I would imagine the interest would be lost fairly quickly.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by Airhog

One question I have for those playing. What kind of sporting events would you most like to see? If I only post bets that intrest me, then I would imagine the interest would be lost fairly quickly.

Baseball and NBA playoffs should get some action.

[sooner333]

Yeah, you could do a baseball game of the day every so often...unless the moneyline would be too time-consuming to compute.

[Airhog]

Im thinking about doing these three on a regular basis.

1. Baseball
2. Basketball
3. Nascar

And on a not so regular basis
1. Golf
2. Boxing
3. Horse Racing
4. Other sports

Of course when fall hits and football is back in swing, I will definately do that on a weekly basis, for both college and pro sports.

[Joe]

can we get some soccer action? most online sites should have the odds.

[Airhog]

GWB: Thats not a problem, Would you rather see international Flavors or MLS?

[Joe]

international. what I'm most up on is the spanish and italian leagues, so those could work. I know people here are into the english premier league as well.

[Airhog]

I added a few more bets, totaled up the current standings. Still looking for a site with good Soccer odds. It seems that most of the games only open up betting 24 hours before the game. Will try sometime to get some of those games on every now and then.

[Sublime 2]

Can i still jump inot this?

[Airhog]

Sure, there is no closing on the signups

[Joe]

$30 on Outer Banks in the IHOF Bowl

[TLK]

$10 on Charlotte +13

[B & B]

Im playing baseball tonight

Chicago White Sox risk 100 to win 157

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Airhog

EaglesFan: After looking at the rule in another light, I changed it slightly so it is more consistent. I dont want to discourage anyone from betting on the long bets, because they are afraid they might run out of cash down the line. Changing the rule should accomplish this, and keep people from making bets just to get some free cash.

Excellent!

In that case, I'll put 100 on the Phillies to win the World Series.

[Sublime 2]

$50 on Florida Marlins to win the World Series.

[Airhog]

Originally Posted by B & B

Im playing baseball tonight

Chicago White Sox risk 100 to win 157

Im sorry B&B, but you can only wager on the bets that I provide.

[Airhog]

Im gonna wager 10 bucks on Estrada to win 45 bucks, and Also put down 10 bucks on the angels to win the WS

[Radii]

$40 on the Cubs over the Padres.

[sooner333]

I'll put 20 on the Padres for tonight.

[Scoobz0202]

Can I get in on this?

[Airhog]

scoobz0202: your more than welcome too.

[Joe]

looks like I got the first winning bet. thanks for adjusting the IHOF Bowl line

[Airhog]

I should have some updated standings done later...

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by George W Bush

looks like I got the first winning bet. thanks for adjusting the IHOF Bowl line

Had you covered at +15. Now where's our cut?

[Airhog]

Posted anothe Basketball game for tomorrow, the Baseball game was postponed until tomorrow

[Desnudo]

I'd like to join please, if you don't mind another.