Werewolf CXVIIIb XTreme - WOLVES WIN

Autumn · 06-13-2011, 10:33 AM

To fill the time until Danny's game starts, I'm willing to run a small experimental game. The first 9 to sign up will be in and off we'll go.

Good Roles:

Seer - Each night receives a vision of a target player as 'wolf' or 'not wolf.' The seer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is 'not wolf.' Thereafter, the seer chooses which player to view.

Priest - Each night receives a vision of a target deceased player. The vision tells the priest that deceased player's exact role. The priest must choose one deceased player to view.

Hunter - If only two players remain in the game and the hunter is one of those players, then the good team wins even if the other player is a werewolf.

3 Villagers - Ordinary villagers with no special powers.

Evil Roles:

2 Werewolves - The werewolves know each other's identity, and may private message/chat without restriction. Each night the wolves choose one target player to kill.

Sorcerer - Each night receives a vision of a target player as 'seer' or 'not seer.' The sorcerer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is 'not seer.' Thereafter, the sorcerer chooses which player to view. The sorcerer wins if the wolves win, but counts as a villager for victory purposes.

Victory Conditions:

Good - All good players win if all werewolves are eliminated, or if the last two players remaining are the hunter and one werewolf. The sorcerer does not have to be eliminated in order for Good to win.

Evil - All evil players win if the wolves achieve parity: if at any time the number of wolves remaining equals the number of non-wolves remaining (including the sorcerer), evil wins. However, if one wolf is left with the hunter, then good wins. The sorcerer counts as a 'non-wolf' for these purposes.

DEADLINES

10 pm EST - Voting deadline. Any votes marked 10:01 or later will not count.

10:30 pm EST - Dawn deadline. Any night actions must be submitted by 10:30.

THE BASICS

No editing of posts.

No quoting of private messages.

No discussion of the game outside the thread.

Any player inactive for 48 hours will be replaced.

VOTING

Every day the village votes for who they wish to lynch. The player who receives the most votes by day's end will be killed.

In order to vote, please post your vote in bold and on a separate line.

You may change your vote at any time before the deadline by posting an unvote and then a new vote, both in bold. You may vote No Lynch, and if No Lynch gains the most votes, there will in fact be no lynch. Nightfall votes must be unanimous and will still be dependent on my availability. Tie votes will be resolved by whichever candidate has the longest held vote on them.

REVEAL

Roles will not be revealed upon lynch or upon night kill. Only the Priest will have knowledge about the allegiance or role of any of the dead.

SIGN UPS

spleen1015 - Winner, Winner
PackerFanatic - Eaten Night 4
mauboy1 - lynched Day 1
Zinto - killed Night 3
bhlloy - lynched Day 2
JAG - killed Night 2
Chubby - killed Night 1
Narcizo - lynched Day 3
Danny - lynched Day 4

spleen1015 · 06-13-2011, 10:36 AM

I will play

PackerFanatic · 06-13-2011, 10:41 AM

I'm in.

Narcizo · 06-13-2011, 10:51 AM

I'd be interested but only if my time schedule isn't seen as a problem (I think not being around for deadlines is more of a problem in smaller games ). No reveals hasn't been universally popular around here. To put in mildly

but I'm interested in seeing how it pans out in a small game.

Provisional yes but I'll gladly bow out if someone who can contribute more/will be around for deadline wants in.

mauchow · 06-13-2011, 11:27 AM

I'm game. I should have good access time on my phone while working.

Zinto · 06-13-2011, 12:06 PM

I am in

bhlloy · 06-13-2011, 12:24 PM

I'd like to play a small, back to basics game like this

The Jackal · 06-13-2011, 12:37 PM

So roles aren't revealed on death. Are allegiances? (not sure if I can play, just wondering)

Autumn · 06-13-2011, 01:03 PM

In this game, neither roles nor allegiance are given at death.

Autumn · 06-13-2011, 01:04 PM

If we get three more sign-ups soon I'd be happy to go ahead and just start this one now. If tonight is too early for any of the signed up players let me know.

Narcizo · 06-13-2011, 01:15 PM

I've been thinking and as much as I'd love playing in a game like this (I've even read WWIII recently which was the same idea but with 5 players) my time schedule makes me think that I'll do more harm then good to whichever team I'm on. So I think it's probably best if I pull out so any possible 10th man won't feel like he's knocking me out of a spot. If you don't get 9 by the end of the night put me back in. (Tonight would probably be too early unless it happens within the next 3 hours).

JAG · 06-13-2011, 02:43 PM

Autumn · 06-13-2011, 04:23 PM

Need three more, folks. Jump in!

Chubby · 06-13-2011, 04:44 PM

sure i'll do this.

nothing against danny's game, i just think it's a tad complicated for me right now

mauchow · 06-13-2011, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

sure i'll do this.

nothing against danny's game, i just think it's a tad complicated for me right now

Join anyway!

Danny · 06-13-2011, 08:50 PM

And it may seem complicated, but it's really not (at least not to play it). And I'm willing to help people with any questions through PM or in thread.

The Jackal · 06-13-2011, 09:18 PM

Danny · 06-13-2011, 09:42 PM

Autumn, I will play if you really need an extra, but give someone a spot over me as I will be working on my game during this anyway.

Autumn · 06-13-2011, 09:48 PM

Okay, Danny. If no one else signs up tonight I'll conscript you and Narcizo. But if two other people want those slots, they're open!

Autumn · 06-13-2011, 10:52 PM

I'm heading off for the night now. When I log in in the morning I will start the game, either with whoever may have signed up over the night, or Danny and Narcizo if you guys are still willing. I'll send out roles in the morning and have first deadline be tomorrow (Tuesday) at 10 p.m. EST.

Lathum · 06-13-2011, 10:57 PM

Autumn · 06-13-2011, 11:00 PM

With no role reveals ... you sure about this Lathum? ;-)

Lathum · 06-14-2011, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

With no role reveals ... you sure about this Lathum? ;-)

didn't notice that part, I'm out.

Narcizo · 06-14-2011, 01:42 AM

I thought you'd like the freedom to fake reveal that a no reveal game would provide. I realise that it would be horrible in a big game but in a small game like this it lets you be really creative.

Autumn · 06-14-2011, 08:07 AM

Okay, Danny and Narcizo, if you're in I'll start this up this morning. It's fine if you'd rather not, I can keep signups going until it's full.

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Okay, Danny and Narcizo, if you're in I'll start this up this morning. It's fine if you'd rather not, I can keep signups going until it's full.

oh they're in

Narcizo · 06-14-2011, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Okay, Danny and Narcizo, if you're in I'll start this up this morning. It's fine if you'd rather not, I can keep signups going until it's full.

In.

Autumn · 06-14-2011, 09:40 AM

Roles have been sent, game is on.

Voting deadline is 10:00 p.m. EST.

JAG · 06-14-2011, 09:47 AM

Alrighty, this game should be worth a chuckle or two. I've never played in a game this small or without roles being revealed upon death. My first observation is vote analysis will be more complicated obviously, but we can assume the night kills are villagers (or the sorcerer if we get lucky I suppose...that's a Q to ask actually).

Autumn:
1. Does the sorcerer know the wolves?

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 09:52 AM

Checking in! Plain ol villager.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 09:53 AM

So lathum is not playing then ?

Narcizo · 06-14-2011, 09:53 AM

I'm here and like JAG said this isn't going to pan out like a normal game - the no reveal thing is going to see to that. My read is that gut is going to be more important than vote records. Which makes makes me think that I'm not going to do so well.

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 09:54 AM

vote chubby

I expect this to get me lynched day one now.

Narcizo · 06-14-2011, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Autumn:
1. Does the sorcerer know the wolves?

Hope not otherwise the game is skewed right in favour of the wolfies. I don't think sorcerors normally know the wolves but I guess it varies from game to game.

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 09:55 AM

here. plain old villager again

I wish I'd get a role even tho i really haven't played much WW in a while

spleen1015 · 06-14-2011, 09:56 AM

Villager checking in.

JAG · 06-14-2011, 09:56 AM

Oh yeah, welcome spleen. Haven't seen you in a game before.

spleen1015 · 06-14-2011, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Oh yeah, welcome spleen. Haven't seen you in a game before.

This is maybe my 4th or 5th game. I tend to suck really bad and not want to play again for a year or more.

JAG · 06-14-2011, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Hope not otherwise the game is skewed right in favour of the wolfies. I don't think sorcerors normally know the wolves but I guess it varies from game to game.

Well, in Autumn's Original WW game, the sorcerer did. It's not spelled out in the rules so I assume not, but it'd be nice to get confirmation.

Autumn · 06-14-2011, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Autumn:
1. Does the sorcerer know the wolves?

In this ruleset the sorceror does not know the wolves, and vice versa.

Narcizo · 06-14-2011, 10:01 AM

I think we might want to discuss the ins and outs of role revealing in this game compared to a "normal" game. I can see a situation where it might be worth a role revealing on day two, depending on circumstances. Unless we lynch a wolf the game could easily be over by the day three lynch so we need to try and get as much information as possible.

PackerFanatic · 06-14-2011, 10:01 AM

Welcome back, then, spleen

Checking in.

Narcizo · 06-14-2011, 10:06 AM

One role we probably don't want out there is the hunter though. The hunter is much more important in a game like this compared to the usual game. If you read WW3 you'll see the hunter won the game by being the last alive with a wolf. Less chance of that here with more people but still.

Narcizo · 06-14-2011, 10:10 AM

I'm going to chuck out a pretty random vote and then disappear for three hours. I hope everyone realises that in a game like this it's vital that everyone is active if we're going to have a good chance and talk a lot. I'm going to start with, but I'm hoping there's going to be more to go off of by this evening (my time).

Vote PackerFanatic

PackerFanatic · 06-14-2011, 10:10 AM

Eeny, meeny, miney, mo...

VOTE JAG

PackerFanatic · 06-14-2011, 10:11 AM

Gah - damn you Narc!

JAG · 06-14-2011, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I think we might want to discuss the ins and outs of role revealing in this game compared to a "normal" game. I can see a situation where it might be worth a role revealing on day two, depending on circumstances. Unless we lynch a wolf the game could easily be over by the day three lynch so we need to try and get as much information as possible.

I agree, but I also think this is going to be complicated because it will be more difficult to confirm a role reveal with the lack of reveal on death. Thus it will be easier than normal for a sorcerer / wolf to pull off a fake reveal.

Vote Chubby

No special reason, other than I think we don't want to be overly spread out with our voting.

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 10:36 AM

I see mauboy wants revenge on me for the batman game but I'm a villager again.

I do agree in not spreading out votes tho and by process of random.org taking into account current votes...

vote JAG

Autumn · 06-14-2011, 10:40 AM

chubby - mauboy1 (33), JAG (47)
packerfanatic - narcizo (44)
jag - packerfanatic (45), Chubby (48)

mauchow · 06-14-2011, 10:42 AM

I don't hold grudges my friend. There is a 25% chance you are a wolf or villager since I know I'm a villager.

06-13-2011, 01:03 PM	#9
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	In this game, neither roles nor allegiance are given at death. Last edited by Autumn : 07-10-2011 at 10:02 AM.

06-13-2011, 10:36 AM	#2
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I will play

06-13-2011, 10:41 AM	#3
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I'm in.

06-13-2011, 10:51 AM	#4
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I'd be interested but only if my time schedule isn't seen as a problem (I think not being around for deadlines is more of a problem in smaller games ). No reveals hasn't been universally popular around here. To put in mildly but I'm interested in seeing how it pans out in a small game. Provisional yes but I'll gladly bow out if someone who can contribute more/will be around for deadline wants in.

06-13-2011, 11:27 AM	#5
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I'm game. I should have good access time on my phone while working.

06-13-2011, 12:06 PM	#6
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	I am in

06-13-2011, 12:24 PM	#7
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I'd like to play a small, back to basics game like this

06-13-2011, 12:37 PM	#8
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	So roles aren't revealed on death. Are allegiances? (not sure if I can play, just wondering)

06-13-2011, 01:04 PM	#10
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	If we get three more sign-ups soon I'd be happy to go ahead and just start this one now. If tonight is too early for any of the signed up players let me know.

06-13-2011, 01:15 PM	#11
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I've been thinking and as much as I'd love playing in a game like this (I've even read WWIII recently which was the same idea but with 5 players) my time schedule makes me think that I'll do more harm then good to whichever team I'm on. So I think it's probably best if I pull out so any possible 10th man won't feel like he's knocking me out of a spot. If you don't get 9 by the end of the night put me back in. (Tonight would probably be too early unless it happens within the next 3 hours).

06-13-2011, 02:43 PM	#12
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	In

06-13-2011, 04:23 PM	#13
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Need three more, folks. Jump in!

06-13-2011, 04:44 PM	#14
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	sure i'll do this. nothing against danny's game, i just think it's a tad complicated for me right now

06-13-2011, 08:50 PM	#16
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	And it may seem complicated, but it's really not (at least not to play it). And I'm willing to help people with any questions through PM or in thread.

06-13-2011, 09:18 PM	#17
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire

06-13-2011, 09:42 PM	#18
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Autumn, I will play if you really need an extra, but give someone a spot over me as I will be working on my game during this anyway.

06-13-2011, 09:48 PM	#19
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Okay, Danny. If no one else signs up tonight I'll conscript you and Narcizo. But if two other people want those slots, they're open!

06-13-2011, 10:52 PM	#20
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'm heading off for the night now. When I log in in the morning I will start the game, either with whoever may have signed up over the night, or Danny and Narcizo if you guys are still willing. I'll send out roles in the morning and have first deadline be tomorrow (Tuesday) at 10 p.m. EST.

06-13-2011, 10:57 PM	#21
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	In

06-13-2011, 11:00 PM	#22
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	With no role reveals ... you sure about this Lathum? ;-)

06-14-2011, 01:42 AM	#24
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I thought you'd like the freedom to fake reveal that a no reveal game would provide. I realise that it would be horrible in a big game but in a small game like this it lets you be really creative.

06-14-2011, 08:07 AM	#25
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Okay, Danny and Narcizo, if you're in I'll start this up this morning. It's fine if you'd rather not, I can keep signups going until it's full.

06-14-2011, 09:40 AM	#28
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Roles have been sent, game is on. Voting deadline is 10:00 p.m. EST.

06-14-2011, 09:47 AM	#29
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Alrighty, this game should be worth a chuckle or two. I've never played in a game this small or without roles being revealed upon death. My first observation is vote analysis will be more complicated obviously, but we can assume the night kills are villagers (or the sorcerer if we get lucky I suppose...that's a Q to ask actually). Autumn: 1. Does the sorcerer know the wolves?

06-14-2011, 09:52 AM	#30
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Checking in! Plain ol villager.

06-14-2011, 09:53 AM	#31
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	So lathum is not playing then ?

06-14-2011, 09:54 AM	#33
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	vote chubby I expect this to get me lynched day one now.

06-14-2011, 09:55 AM	#35
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	here. plain old villager again I wish I'd get a role even tho i really haven't played much WW in a while

06-14-2011, 09:56 AM	#36
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Villager checking in.

06-14-2011, 10:01 AM	#41
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I think we might want to discuss the ins and outs of role revealing in this game compared to a "normal" game. I can see a situation where it might be worth a role revealing on day two, depending on circumstances. Unless we lynch a wolf the game could easily be over by the day three lynch so we need to try and get as much information as possible.

06-14-2011, 10:01 AM	#42
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Welcome back, then, spleen Checking in.