New Miami Dolphins Head of Football Operations - Dan Marino?

General Mike · 01-12-2004, 03:22 PM

I heard on WFAN in New York, that CBS Sportsline is reporting that he will take the job, beginning after the Super Bowl, but I can't find confirmation.

rkmsuf · 01-12-2004, 03:23 PM

That would be the biggest joke ever...I literally would see him running that team into 2-14...

cthomer5000 · 01-12-2004, 03:26 PM

This would literally give Kodos an erection.

Suicane75 · 01-12-2004, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

This would literally give Kodos an erection.

Honestly!

Neuqua · 01-12-2004, 03:31 PM

Just by clicking this thread he'll need to get some tissue.

vtbub · 01-12-2004, 03:44 PM

It's on ESPNEWS.

pjstp20 · 01-12-2004, 03:45 PM

Another dissapointing offseason move. I mean I love the guy, but how is he even qualified to be a GM? This sounds like a move to get fan support up, but not to make a better team. The Dolphins are becoming a circus.

rkmsuf · 01-12-2004, 03:45 PM

This is the funniest thing I've heard...forget Ron Wolf let's get Marino and his Isotoners...

This guy can't identify talent...

Leonidas · 01-12-2004, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub

It's on ESPNEWS.

Then it's just got to be true.

Despite the fact they interviewed 7 people, said the choice would be one of those 7, and Marino wasn't one of them. The big surprise was they interviewed Paul Warfield, a man with absolutley no front office experience.

vtbub · 01-12-2004, 03:48 PM

Press conference at 5 ET/4 CT/1 PT/2300 CET

Abe Sargent · 01-12-2004, 03:49 PM

Other ex-players have made a smooth transition to the GM office - Dwight Clark, Ozzie Newsome, James Harris. But they went through an apprenticeship beforehand, learning the trade and such. Dan has no such experience. I wouldn't be surprised if there is an experienced hand hired to assist him through the first couple of years or so.

-Anxiety

vtbub · 01-12-2004, 03:51 PM

Well, how much does he prepare for his stuff on the NFL Today? It can't be that much of a stretch.

rkmsuf · 01-12-2004, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub

Well, how much does he prepare for his stuff on the NFL Today? It can't be that much of a stretch.

Are you serious?

vtbub · 01-12-2004, 03:53 PM

uh, yes.

Leonidas · 01-12-2004, 03:54 PM

Dan is my own personal football God, but if this is true it really, really worries me. I already have visions of Matt Millen running through my head.

Thinking on it more, makes me wonder if the whole thing isn't a big scam. Huizenga, in an effort to placate screeming fans, despite the fact he wants to keep his staff exactly intact, decides to make a huge splash by hiring the most popular player in team history, who in reality will act as a GM in name only while Wannstedt and Spielman still make all the decisions. I can think of no other way to explain this, assuming it does in fact happen.

rkmsuf · 01-12-2004, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub

uh, yes.

That guy is Mr. Middle on the show. He has zero strong opinions and I'm sure does precious little other than watching games. It's a huge stretch to start performing the duties of a GM...

rkmsuf · 01-12-2004, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

Dan is my own personal football God, but if this is true it really, really worries me. I already have visions of Matt Millen running through my head.

Thinking on it more, makes me wonder if the whole thing isn't a big scam. Huizenga, in an effort to placate screeming fans, despite the fact he wants to keep his staff exactly intact, decides to make a huge splash by hiring the most popular player in team history, who in reality will act as a GM in name only while Wannstedt and Spielman still make all the decisions. I can think of no other way to explain this, assuming it does in fact happen.

That is the most plausible explanation...

Subby · 01-12-2004, 03:56 PM

Marino to become Dolphins head of football operations
Jan. 12, 2004
By Jay Glazer
SportsLine.com Senior Writer

The Miami Dolphins front-office search has taken an unexpected turn.

Dolphins great Dan Marino told SportsLine.com that he has accepted a job as the team's new head of football operations. Marino told SportsLine.com that he will not be joining the team until after the Super Bowl and his broadcast duties are complete.

The team has called a 5 p.m. ET news conference.

Marino has talked with team owner Wayne Huizenga about such a position for a while, but met with the owner again Monday to finalize the deal. It is expected that he will work with both Dave Wannstedt and player personnel chief Rick Spielman, who should be retained in the deal.

Marino is a sure-fire future Hall of Famer and current analyst for The NFL Today on CBS.

rkmsuf · 01-12-2004, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Marino to become Dolphins head of football operations

Jan. 12, 2004
By Jay Glazer
SportsLine.com Senior Writer
Tell Jay your opinion!

The Miami Dolphins front-office search has taken an unexpected turn.

Dolphins great Dan Marino told SportsLine.com that he has accepted a job as the team's new head of football operations. Marino told SportsLine.com that he will not be joining the team until after the Super Bowl and his broadcast duties are complete.

The team has called a 5 p.m. ET news conference.

Marino has talked with team owner Wayne Huizenga about such a position for a while, but met with the owner again Monday to finalize the deal. It is expected that he will work with both Dave Wannstedt and player personnel chief Rick Spielman, who should be retained in the deal.

Marino is a sure-fire future Hall of Famer and current analyst for The NFL Today on CBS.

"Analyst" is a strong term to describe his contribution to the show...

Leonidas · 01-12-2004, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

"Analyst" is a strong term to describe his contribution to the show...

And I think "Head of Football Operations" will be a strong term describing his contributions to the Dolphons.

pjstp20 · 01-12-2004, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

"Analyst" is a strong term to describe his contribution to the show...

Alright we get what youre saying. Just because he scorched you're team for well over a decade doesn't mean you need to hold a grudge. Let it go.

Leonidas · 01-12-2004, 04:07 PM

My theory is all but confirmed from the Miami Herald. If he's not going to make personnel decisions, then just what will he be doing? What a joke. Does Huizenga really think the fans won't see this is all a scam?

[quote]Marino to be Dolphins' head of football operations
By ARMANDO SALGUERO
[email protected]
DAN MARINO
Dan Marino has accepted a job as the Dolphins' new head of football operations and will be introduced at a 5 p.m. press conference today.

Sources told The Miami Herald that the former Dolphins quarterback accepted the job with some unexpected caveats to a typical general manager job.

Marino, 42, will not necessarily be responsible for making personnel and talent decisions for the team -- an undertaking for which he is clearly not prepared. He will likely rely on current personnel boss Rick Spielman for personnel recommendations.

Spielman was one of seven candidates the Dolphins had interviewed for the general manager job, with the understanding that the post would be responsible for talent evaluation duties. Marino did not interview officially for the job.

rkmsuf · 01-12-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pjstp20

Alright we get what youre saying. Just because he scorched you're team for well over a decade doesn't mean you need to hold a grudge. Let it go.

Once Brady won more SuperBowls than Marino the pain just flew away...good for Dan. He can try and do now what he could never do as a player...

rkmsuf · 01-12-2004, 04:11 PM

[quote=Leonidas]My theory is all but confirmed from the Miami Herald. If he's not going to make personnel decisions, then just what will he be doing? What a joke. Does Huizenga really think the fans won't see this is all a scam?

Quote:

Marino to be Dolphins' head of football operations
By ARMANDO SALGUERO
[email protected]
DAN MARINO
Dan Marino has accepted a job as the Dolphins' new head of football operations and will be introduced at a 5 p.m. press conference today.

Sources told The Miami Herald that the former Dolphins quarterback accepted the job with some unexpected caveats to a typical general manager job.

Marino, 42, will not necessarily be responsible for making personnel and talent decisions for the team -- an undertaking for which he is clearly not prepared. He will likely rely on current personnel boss Rick Spielman for personnel recommendations.

Spielman was one of seven candidates the Dolphins had interviewed for the general manager job, with the understanding that the post would be responsible for talent evaluation duties. Marino did not interview officially for the job.

I believe from published reports, Marino will be responsible for chartering flights on road trips, the post game "spread" and any and all hand warmer promotions...

vtbub · 01-12-2004, 04:14 PM

[quote=Leonidas]My theory is all but confirmed from the Miami Herald. If he's not going to make personnel decisions, then just what will he be doing? What a joke. Does Huizenga really think the fans won't see this is all a scam?

Quote:

Marino to be Dolphins' head of football operations
By ARMANDO SALGUERO
[email protected]
DAN MARINO
Dan Marino has accepted a job as the Dolphins' new head of football operations and will be introduced at a 5 p.m. press conference today.

Sources told The Miami Herald that the former Dolphins quarterback accepted the job with some unexpected caveats to a typical general manager job.

Marino, 42, will not necessarily be responsible for making personnel and talent decisions for the team -- an undertaking for which he is clearly not prepared. He will likely rely on current personnel boss Rick Spielman for personnel recommendations.

Spielman was one of seven candidates the Dolphins had interviewed for the general manager job, with the understanding that the post would be responsible for talent evaluation duties. Marino did not interview officially for the job.

Short-term PR move.

But, easing him in, as supposed to what the Lions did to Millen, could be genius in three or four years.

They could have made him coach, or put him in there by himself without help.

rkmsuf · 01-12-2004, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub

Short-term PR move.

But, easing him in, as supposed to what the Lions did to Millen, could be genius in three or four years.

They could have made him coach, or put him in there by himself without help.

This is not genius. If it was he would have been in the grooming process years ago...

This is nothing but a figurehead moved based on the backlash of missing the playoffs and retaining Wanny. Wayne is a lousy owner...

Leonidas · 01-12-2004, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

This is not genius. If it was he would have been in the grooming process years ago...

This is nothing but a figurehead moved based on the backlash of missing the playoffs and retaining Wanny. Wayne is a lousy owner...

And strangely he somehow managed to buy himself a World Series. Wierd for a guy who has always been "football first" that he could win in baseball but not football.

Joe Robbie may have been a bit of an A-hole at times, but the man knew how to put together a good football team (of course having Shula make the key decisions kind of helped). Huizenga appears to be just throwing crap against the wall and seeing if enough will stick to make something work.

Abe Sargent · 01-12-2004, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonidas

The big surprise was they interviewed Paul Warfield, a man with absolutley no front office experience.

Actually, Warfield has been an advisor and consultant for the Cowboys for three or four years. Not a big job, mind you, but it IS front office experience, and may very well be more than Marino has.

-Anxiety

cthomer5000 · 01-12-2004, 04:29 PM

Will Ray Finkle be joining the staff?

rkmsuf · 01-12-2004, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Will Ray Finkle be joining the staff?

I would kill for footage for Marino yelling at his assitant for getting him the wrong color stationary...

mckerney · 01-12-2004, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

And I think "Head of Football Operations" will be a strong term describing his contributions to the Dolphons.

Yeah, but "Coach" is a strong tern describing Wannstedt's contributions to the team, so he should fit right in.

QuikSand · 01-12-2004, 06:20 PM

The snippet of the press conference shown on ESPN (Question: Is this just a figurehead position?) revealed the two principals to be just what they are:

Marino - wonderful quarterback, barely functionally literate in real life
Huizenga - evil, lying, manipulative, SOB

Fritz · 01-12-2004, 08:16 PM

as I mentioned in the other thread, at the press conf Huizenga introduced Spielman as the new GM, and Marino as Spielman and Wannstedt's boss.

miami_fan · 01-12-2004, 09:42 PM

Dan, please review the management career of Matt Millen and DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE!

PsychoCop · 01-12-2004, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Will Ray Finkle be joining the staff?

Finkle and Einhorn... in it together... how, why? FINKLE, EINHORN, EINHORN, FINKLE... That's it... THAT'S IT! EINHORN IS FINKLE! FINKLE IS EINHORN! Einhorn is man! EINHORN IS A MAN!?!?

Kodos · 01-13-2004, 01:06 AM

Give the guy a chance. There'll be plenty of time to crucify him later if he does a bad job.

To me, the move will be worth it just to give Marino the pleasure of firing Wannstedt after next season.

tucker342 · 01-13-2004, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Yeah, but "Coach" is a strong tern describing Wannstedt's contributions to the team, so he should fit right in.

LOL

It's funny cause it's true.

pjstp20 · 01-13-2004, 01:21 AM

I wonder why Wannstedt is bashed so much. Sure it seems the Dolphins have been underachievers, but are they that good? Do they really have as much talent as people seem to think? Wannstedt's tenure with the Dolphins compares favorably to any coach in the league, but he's regaurded as an utter failure. In retrospect I'm glad they kept him instead of getting some retread, or an unproven college bust.

As for Marino. He's not the GM, he's just a figurehead to placate Miami fans. So his hiring is insignificant.

Tekneek · 01-13-2004, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

That would be the biggest joke ever...I literally would see him running that team into 2-14...

Well, I'll be looking for that 2-14 record next season, all-star.

Tekneek · 01-13-2004, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

This is the funniest thing I've heard...forget Ron Wolf let's get Marino and his Isotoners...

This guy can't identify talent...

Sure. Make your case, then. I'm ready to read your analysis of all the talent Dan Marino has evaluated.

Besides this, Ron Wolf did not want to be considered.

Tekneek · 01-13-2004, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Once Brady won more SuperBowls than Marino the pain just flew away...good for Dan. He can try and do now what he could never do as a player...

Yawn. Pretty exciting take you've brought to the board, Homer.

rkmsuf · 01-13-2004, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tekneek

Sure. Make your case, then. I'm ready to read your analysis of all the talent Dan Marino has evaluated.

Besides this, Ron Wolf did not want to be considered.

I can't believe you are actually defending this as a legitimate football move designed to push Miami into the playoffs and beyond.

This is akin to the Jets hiring Joe Namath in the same capacity...that's the only analysis necessary here...

Tekneek · 01-13-2004, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I can't believe you are actually defending this as a legitimate football move designed to push Miami into the playoffs and beyond.

This is akin to the Jets hiring Joe Namath in the same capacity...that's the only analysis necessary here...

I wasn't defending it. I was asking you to prove your point, which you have not done.

rkmsuf · 01-13-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tekneek

I wasn't defending it. I was asking you to prove your point, which you have not done.

Well, once you've invented the method to prove an opinion look me up...

I think Marino is a horrid choice if he is to serve as gm...why don't you prove me wrong then since you have such a problem with this assertion...

ShovelMonkey · 01-13-2004, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Kodos... Give the guy a chance. There'll be plenty of time to crucify him later if he does a bad job.

To me, the move will be worth it just to give Marino the pleasure of firing Wannstedt after next season.

I agree, give the guy a chance.

I don't know much about the Dolphin's owner, but I do know that if I was an owner I'd be guilty of much the same thing. In my hero worship of past players I'm afraid I'd bring many an ex-player to the front office just for old-times sakes.

I just wish Jimmy Johnson was still coaching there...I can picture in my head Marino telling him, "Now I am the master..." while making Darth Vader noises.

Desnudo · 01-13-2004, 02:20 PM

They hired a GM with final yes/no on personnel decisions. So what Marino's job is exactly is subject to speculation. I can say that as a Patriots fan I'm very excited by this move. Maybe with luck they can hire on Dave McGinnis as a motivational speaker.

Tekneek · 01-13-2004, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Well, once you've invented the method to prove an opinion look me up...

I think Marino is a horrid choice if he is to serve as gm...why don't you prove me wrong then since you have such a problem with this assertion...

If your opinion has any basis in fact, you would have evidence to back up your claim.

I don't have to prove anything, you were the one asserting that he cannot judge talent. So, you are better at evaluating GM or Head of Football Operations talent than Wayne Huizenga, but refuse to explain why you are better?

rkmsuf · 01-13-2004, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tekneek

If your opinion has any basis in fact, you would have evidence to back up your claim.

I don't have to prove anything, you were the one asserting that he cannot judge talent. So, you are better at evaluating GM or Head of Football Operations talent than Wayne Huizenga, but refuse to explain why you are better?

Doesn't matter since clearly you are a Dolphin lover and I don't hold them in the same regard. I would be only contributing to carpal tunnel to try and convince you.

I will say this though. If Wayne thought Marino had the goods to pick talent he'd be doing it and not spending his time as a figurehead and waving his little hat to the crowd...

Fouts · 01-13-2004, 03:13 PM

Ok, which one of you pissed off Huizenga? He was steaming at the press conf.

rkmsuf · 01-13-2004, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Ok, which one of you pissed off Huizenga? He was steaming at the press conf.

Was he literally steaming?

01-12-2004, 03:23 PM	#2
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	That would be the biggest joke ever...I literally would see him running that team into 2-14... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-12-2004, 03:31 PM	#5
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	Just by clicking this thread he'll need to get some tissue. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

01-12-2004, 03:44 PM	#6
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	It's on ESPNEWS. __________________

01-12-2004, 03:45 PM	#8
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	This is the funniest thing I've heard...forget Ron Wolf let's get Marino and his Isotoners... This guy can't identify talent... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-12-2004, 03:48 PM	#10
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	Press conference at 5 ET/4 CT/1 PT/2300 CET __________________

01-12-2004, 03:45 PM	#7
pjstp20 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL	Another dissapointing offseason move. I mean I love the guy, but how is he even qualified to be a GM? This sounds like a move to get fan support up, but not to make a better team. The Dolphins are becoming a circus.

01-12-2004, 03:49 PM	#11
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Other ex-players have made a smooth transition to the GM office - Dwight Clark, Ozzie Newsome, James Harris. But they went through an apprenticeship beforehand, learning the trade and such. Dan has no such experience. I wouldn't be surprised if there is an experienced hand hired to assist him through the first couple of years or so. -Anxiety __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

01-12-2004, 03:51 PM	#12
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	Well, how much does he prepare for his stuff on the NFL Today? It can't be that much of a stretch. __________________

01-12-2004, 03:53 PM	#14
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	uh, yes. __________________

01-12-2004, 03:54 PM	#15
Leonidas College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Anglia	Dan is my own personal football God, but if this is true it really, really worries me. I already have visions of Matt Millen running through my head. Thinking on it more, makes me wonder if the whole thing isn't a big scam. Huizenga, in an effort to placate screeming fans, despite the fact he wants to keep his staff exactly intact, decides to make a huge splash by hiring the most popular player in team history, who in reality will act as a GM in name only while Wannstedt and Spielman still make all the decisions. I can think of no other way to explain this, assuming it does in fact happen. __________________ Molon labe

01-12-2004, 04:07 PM	#22
Leonidas College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Anglia	My theory is all but confirmed from the Miami Herald. If he's not going to make personnel decisions, then just what will he be doing? What a joke. Does Huizenga really think the fans won't see this is all a scam? [quote]Marino to be Dolphins' head of football operations By ARMANDO SALGUERO [email protected] DAN MARINO Dan Marino has accepted a job as the Dolphins' new head of football operations and will be introduced at a 5 p.m. press conference today. Sources told The Miami Herald that the former Dolphins quarterback accepted the job with some unexpected caveats to a typical general manager job. Marino, 42, will not necessarily be responsible for making personnel and talent decisions for the team -- an undertaking for which he is clearly not prepared. He will likely rely on current personnel boss Rick Spielman for personnel recommendations. Spielman was one of seven candidates the Dolphins had interviewed for the general manager job, with the understanding that the post would be responsible for talent evaluation duties. Marino did not interview officially for the job. __________________ Molon labe

01-12-2004, 06:20 PM	#32
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	The snippet of the press conference shown on ESPN (Question: Is this just a figurehead position?) revealed the two principals to be just what they are: Marino - wonderful quarterback, barely functionally literate in real life Huizenga - evil, lying, manipulative, SOB

01-12-2004, 08:16 PM	#33
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	as I mentioned in the other thread, at the press conf Huizenga introduced Spielman as the new GM, and Marino as Spielman and Wannstedt's boss. __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

01-12-2004, 09:42 PM	#34
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Dan, please review the management career of Matt Millen and DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE!

01-13-2004, 01:06 AM	#36
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Give the guy a chance. There'll be plenty of time to crucify him later if he does a bad job. To me, the move will be worth it just to give Marino the pleasure of firing Wannstedt after next season.

01-13-2004, 01:21 AM	#38
pjstp20 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL	I wonder why Wannstedt is bashed so much. Sure it seems the Dolphins have been underachievers, but are they that good? Do they really have as much talent as people seem to think? Wannstedt's tenure with the Dolphins compares favorably to any coach in the league, but he's regaurded as an utter failure. In retrospect I'm glad they kept him instead of getting some retread, or an unproven college bust. As for Marino. He's not the GM, he's just a figurehead to placate Miami fans. So his hiring is insignificant.

01-13-2004, 02:20 PM	#46
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	They hired a GM with final yes/no on personnel decisions. So what Marino's job is exactly is subject to speculation. I can say that as a Patriots fan I'm very excited by this move. Maybe with luck they can hire on Dave McGinnis as a motivational speaker.

01-13-2004, 03:13 PM	#49
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Ok, which one of you pissed off Huizenga? He was steaming at the press conf.

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