NFL 2020 Season Thread - Page 15

Lathum · 11-02-2020, 10:21 PM

Shocked that a Brady lead team got bailed out with horrible calls.

Atocep · 11-02-2020, 10:22 PM

I've watched a lot of bad qb play and Daniel Jones is like a strange love child between Rex Grossman and Mitch Trubisky. He's athletic, has no feel for the pocket, can make some great throws (especially down the field), but throws 4-5 bad balls for every good throw while throwing some of the dumbest interceptions you'll see.

Lathum · 11-02-2020, 10:27 PM

Refs don’t pick up that flag if there are 70k giants fans in the stadium booing.

NobodyHere · 11-08-2020, 10:11 AM

Browns place QB Baker Mayfield on reserve/COVID-19 list

cuervo72 · 11-08-2020, 12:15 PM

This NYG/WAS game has great comedic potential.

bhlloy · 11-08-2020, 02:00 PM

Feels like DK Metcalf is about a half season away from being one of the best receivers in the league if not a potential hall of famer. His hands and route running continue to develop... with that size and speed it’s a scary combination

stevew · 11-08-2020, 03:10 PM

Luton-mania?

stevew · 11-08-2020, 03:14 PM

Just watched 4 straight failed onside kicks

JPhillips · 11-08-2020, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Luton-mania?

I mean, you know who else was a sixth-round pick?

Atocep · 11-08-2020, 03:18 PM

Jimmy Graham gives less effort than I do at work the last hour before a long weekend.

JPhillips · 11-08-2020, 04:51 PM

Man, I hate it when offensive penalties end up benefitting the offense. That PIT FG shouldn't have gotten a do-over.

PilotMan · 11-08-2020, 05:49 PM

Steelers are playing like a team that doesn't really give a shit today.

bhlloy · 11-08-2020, 06:13 PM

That’s so Chargers!

Edward64 · 11-08-2020, 06:14 PM

Hey ... the Falcons won!

Lathum · 11-08-2020, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

That’s so Chargers!

There was nothing in that replay that showed conclusively the call should be overturned.

JPhillips · 11-08-2020, 06:18 PM

Cowboys doing all they can to give the game to Pittsburgh.

stevew · 11-08-2020, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Steelers are playing like a team that doesn't really give a shit today.

don't worry, we got the refs today.

larrymcg421 · 11-08-2020, 06:26 PM

Tua looking great today.

Jas_lov · 11-08-2020, 06:39 PM

Steelers shoulda kicked the FG and went up 8.

stevew · 11-08-2020, 06:41 PM

I ain't saying he's awesome but Garrett Gilbert should have been playing somewhere before today.

Ksyrup · 11-08-2020, 06:45 PM

I can't believe AZ didn't go for it, 4th-and-1 from about the 30 down 3. You make the FG, you give Miami 1:45 to get their own FG. Dude missed a 49 yard FG short, which was far from optimal, but I think they lose even if he makes it.

RendeR · 11-08-2020, 08:32 PM

Brady and the bucs getting their asses handed to them.

Ksyrup · 11-08-2020, 09:32 PM

Tom Brady looks 150 years old.

JPhillips · 11-09-2020, 09:50 PM

Which is worse?

The Jets are going to lose Trevor Lawrence to the Jags.

or

Trevor Lawrence is going to be stuck in Jacksonville.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-09-2020, 09:55 PM

I glanced at espn and noticed the pats-jets score. Watching the pbp log on this final pats drive is like watching a car crash

sabotai · 11-09-2020, 10:11 PM

Breaking News: The Jets are still the Jets

SirFozzie · 11-09-2020, 10:18 PM

any one got that Larry David gif> Yes, they won a game they should have lost, scoring twice in the final two minutes, including a Brady-like finish by Cam Newton.

It was to the 0-9 Jets.

RendeR · 11-09-2020, 11:41 PM

Yes folks, the jets are that horrible, and yes, the Pats might actually be worse.

cuervo72 · 11-10-2020, 08:01 AM

I mean, this just makes the Pats's draft pick worse, right?

BishopMVP · 11-10-2020, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

I mean, this just makes the Pats's draft pick worse, right?

Technically 2 games back, and have H2H wins over Oakland/Miami who are 6/7 right now (plus another game vs the Dolphins), but it would be surprising. The advanced numbers hate the Pats right now, though outside of that 49ers game close losses to KC, Seattle & Buffalo seem to indicate they're still dangerous.

stevew · 11-10-2020, 01:44 PM

oh jesus, nothing like your shitty fake tough guy tight end getting covid and causing Big Ben to have to be quarantined. I hated Vance McDonald already.

RendeR · 11-10-2020, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

oh jesus, nothing like your shitty fake tough guy tight end getting covid and causing Big Ben to have to be quarantined. I hated Vance McDonald already.

You'll have to forgive me if this makes me slightly happier going into this game

stevew · 11-10-2020, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

You'll have to forgive me if this makes me slightly happier going into this game

Yeah, maybe the Bengals can run the head to head record to 33-10 this century.

RendeR · 11-12-2020, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Yeah, maybe the Bengals can run the head to head record to 33-10 this century.

I'm just biding my time until the squealers spend 20 years sucking balls, and I'll just sit and revel in it.

I've definitely enjoyed the forty-whiners last couple decades of bottom feeding with only occasional glimpses of their past.

stevew · 11-12-2020, 10:13 PM

How many more kicks does Gostkowski get to blow? He's costing them games.

Galaril · 11-12-2020, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

How many more kicks does Gostkowski get to blow? He's costing them games.

Yeah the fedex driver punter gave up 14 points and Gostkowski 6 more that is 20 points you can’t afford to give up when you have no pass rush.

NobodyHere · 11-13-2020, 07:45 AM

Bah, I went to bed last night when the Colts failed that 4th and goal conversion. Now I wish I had stayed up.

Carman Bulldog · 11-13-2020, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

How many more kicks does Gostkowski get to blow? He's costing them games.

I wonder if having played with Gostkowski changes the relationship. Would it be harder to cut him because of a prior relationship as teammates? Would Vrabel have a different bond with Gostkowski in comparison to player's that he has only coached?

stevew · 11-13-2020, 05:29 PM

yeah, i was considering that he might be unable to properly evaluate the situation. The other possibility is that there just aren't any kickers worth signing I'm guessing.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-13-2020, 08:00 PM

Gostkowski oddity: 6/7 from 50+, 2/7 from 40-49. He actually leads the NFL in made FG over 50 yards this season.

Would that suggest that it's mechanical somehow? And therefore fixable?

molson · 11-13-2020, 09:03 PM

I think there's kind of an assumption fallacy with kickers. You can't get back missed kicks. But do those missed kicks really predict future missed kicks to the degree than you can be more than 50% certain that everyone else you thought was worse going into the season will now be better going forward? There's just something about, "he's missed kicks, let's cut him", that feels like a 1985 emotion-based coaching mentality. Should whatever information you can gather about a kicker from past performance, tryouts, other metrics, all be blown up because a guy missed what, 3 or 4 more kicks over 10 games than what you would have expected?

It seems like the teams that chase kickers never find a good one.

Ksyrup · 11-13-2020, 10:48 PM

Got my Sunday Ticket email tonight and looking at the schedule, there are more 4pm games than 1pm games. That hardly ever happens, right?

jbergey22 · 11-13-2020, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

I think there's kind of an assumption fallacy with kickers. You can't get back missed kicks. But do those missed kicks really predict future missed kicks to the degree than you can be more than 50% certain that everyone else you thought was worse going into the season will now be better going forward? There's just something about, "he's missed kicks, let's cut him", that feels like a 1985 emotion-based coaching mentality. Should whatever information you can gather about a kicker from past performance, tryouts, other metrics, all be blown up because a guy missed what, 3 or 4 more kicks over 10 games than what you would have expected?

It seems like the teams that chase kickers never find a good one.

Yup!

I still cant think of too many kickers Id trust to make the next kick more than Gostkowski. I think cutting him would be a mistake.

jbergey22 · 11-13-2020, 11:05 PM

Im not going to try to look it up or anything but I wonder how many times in a career a 85 percent free throw shooter misses misses 8 out of 20 free throws. My guess is many times and with kickers its just small sample sizes a lot of times.

EDIT

Couldn't help myself. I looked at James Harden, a 86-87 percent free throw shooter who also takes a lot of free throws, and his game logs from last year.
He had a 2 game span where he was a combined 11-18
A separate 3 game stretch where he was 13-23

So in 68 games he had two different times with high variance from the norm very similar to what Gostkowski is going through right now. The good news is the following 3 game stretches after these variances he was a combined 61-66 so I guess Id expect Gostkowski to get hot now.

Lathum · 11-15-2020, 12:10 PM

Danny Dimes is wicked fast

bronconick · 11-15-2020, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Got my Sunday Ticket email tonight and looking at the schedule, there are more 4pm games than 1pm games. That hardly ever happens, right?

Believe it's because CBS has the Masters' final round from 10-3 Eastern

Ksyrup · 11-15-2020, 12:45 PM

Well, whatever the reason, there are no good games at 1pm and about 4 I want to watch at 4pm. Kinda sucks.

henry296 · 11-15-2020, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Well, whatever the reason, there are no good games at 1pm and about 4 I want to watch at 4pm. Kinda sucks.

Blame the Masters as CBS has no 1 PM games today.

Ksyrup · 11-15-2020, 01:05 PM

I've got Sunday Ticket so I get to watch everything. But I need 4 TVs at 4 pm and I could turn off my TV right now. But I'm happy to blame golf since I can't stand it!

NobodyHere · 11-15-2020, 03:07 PM

Phantom pass interference call is keeping the WTF club alive.

11-02-2020, 10:21 PM	#701
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Shocked that a Brady lead team got bailed out with horrible calls. Last edited by Lathum : 11-02-2020 at 10:21 PM.

11-08-2020, 10:11 AM	#704
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Browns place QB Baker Mayfield on reserve/COVID-19 list __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

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cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	This NYG/WAS game has great comedic potential. __________________ null

11-08-2020, 03:10 PM	#707
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Luton-mania? Last edited by stevew : 11-08-2020 at 03:10 PM.

11-08-2020, 04:51 PM	#711
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Man, I hate it when offensive penalties end up benefitting the offense. That PIT FG shouldn't have gotten a do-over. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

11-02-2020, 10:22 PM	#702
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	I've watched a lot of bad qb play and Daniel Jones is like a strange love child between Rex Grossman and Mitch Trubisky. He's athletic, has no feel for the pocket, can make some great throws (especially down the field), but throws 4-5 bad balls for every good throw while throwing some of the dumbest interceptions you'll see.

11-02-2020, 10:27 PM	#703
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Refs don’t pick up that flag if there are 70k giants fans in the stadium booing.

11-08-2020, 02:00 PM	#706
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Feels like DK Metcalf is about a half season away from being one of the best receivers in the league if not a potential hall of famer. His hands and route running continue to develop... with that size and speed it’s a scary combination

11-08-2020, 03:14 PM	#708
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Just watched 4 straight failed onside kicks

11-08-2020, 03:18 PM	#710
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Jimmy Graham gives less effort than I do at work the last hour before a long weekend.

11-08-2020, 05:49 PM	#712
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11-08-2020, 06:13 PM	#713
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	That’s so Chargers!

11-08-2020, 06:14 PM	#714
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Hey ... the Falcons won!

11-08-2020, 06:18 PM	#716
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Cowboys doing all they can to give the game to Pittsburgh. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

11-08-2020, 06:26 PM	#718
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11-08-2020, 06:39 PM	#719
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Steelers shoulda kicked the FG and went up 8.

11-08-2020, 06:41 PM	#720
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I ain't saying he's awesome but Garrett Gilbert should have been playing somewhere before today.

11-08-2020, 06:45 PM	#721
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I can't believe AZ didn't go for it, 4th-and-1 from about the 30 down 3. You make the FG, you give Miami 1:45 to get their own FG. Dude missed a 49 yard FG short, which was far from optimal, but I think they lose even if he makes it. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-08-2020, 08:32 PM	#722
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Brady and the bucs getting their asses handed to them. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

11-08-2020, 09:32 PM	#723
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Tom Brady looks 150 years old. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-09-2020, 09:50 PM	#724
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Which is worse? The Jets are going to lose Trevor Lawrence to the Jags. or Trevor Lawrence is going to be stuck in Jacksonville. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

11-09-2020, 09:55 PM	#725
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I glanced at espn and noticed the pats-jets score. Watching the pbp log on this final pats drive is like watching a car crash __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-09-2020, 10:11 PM	#726
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11-09-2020, 10:18 PM	#727
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11-10-2020, 08:01 AM	#729
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	I mean, this just makes the Pats's draft pick worse, right? __________________ null

11-10-2020, 01:44 PM	#731
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	oh jesus, nothing like your shitty fake tough guy tight end getting covid and causing Big Ben to have to be quarantined. I hated Vance McDonald already. Last edited by stevew : 11-10-2020 at 01:45 PM.

11-12-2020, 10:13 PM	#735
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	How many more kicks does Gostkowski get to blow? He's costing them games.

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11-13-2020, 05:29 PM	#739
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	yeah, i was considering that he might be unable to properly evaluate the situation. The other possibility is that there just aren't any kickers worth signing I'm guessing.

11-13-2020, 08:00 PM	#740
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Gostkowski oddity: 6/7 from 50+, 2/7 from 40-49. He actually leads the NFL in made FG over 50 yards this season. Would that suggest that it's mechanical somehow? And therefore fixable? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-13-2020, 09:03 PM	#741
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I think there's kind of an assumption fallacy with kickers. You can't get back missed kicks. But do those missed kicks really predict future missed kicks to the degree than you can be more than 50% certain that everyone else you thought was worse going into the season will now be better going forward? There's just something about, "he's missed kicks, let's cut him", that feels like a 1985 emotion-based coaching mentality. Should whatever information you can gather about a kicker from past performance, tryouts, other metrics, all be blown up because a guy missed what, 3 or 4 more kicks over 10 games than what you would have expected? It seems like the teams that chase kickers never find a good one. Last edited by molson : 11-13-2020 at 09:03 PM.

11-13-2020, 10:48 PM	#742
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Got my Sunday Ticket email tonight and looking at the schedule, there are more 4pm games than 1pm games. That hardly ever happens, right? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-13-2020, 11:05 PM	#744
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Im not going to try to look it up or anything but I wonder how many times in a career a 85 percent free throw shooter misses misses 8 out of 20 free throws. My guess is many times and with kickers its just small sample sizes a lot of times. EDIT Couldn't help myself. I looked at James Harden, a 86-87 percent free throw shooter who also takes a lot of free throws, and his game logs from last year. He had a 2 game span where he was a combined 11-18 A separate 3 game stretch where he was 13-23 So in 68 games he had two different times with high variance from the norm very similar to what Gostkowski is going through right now. The good news is the following 3 game stretches after these variances he was a combined 61-66 so I guess Id expect Gostkowski to get hot now. Last edited by jbergey22 : 11-13-2020 at 11:28 PM.

11-15-2020, 12:10 PM	#745
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Danny Dimes is wicked fast