NFL Week 14 Thread - Page 2

tucker rocky · 12-06-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I wonder if he resurfaces with Washington in some capacity, like assistant head coach.

Kubiak is known as QB guru, maybe he could work wonders as Washington's OC/QB coach.

Chief Rum · 12-06-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

As a Bengals fan I am glad the Texans are out. I'm also wondering wtf happened to Andy Dalton.

Dalton just hit his ceiling, that is all. He's a solid game manager type, maybe slightly better, and that is it.

albionmoonlight · 12-06-2013, 11:56 AM

When he collapsed on the sidelines and the owner stayed to watch the game instead of go to the hospital . . . that was probably a bit of a "writing is on the wall" moment.

Logan · 12-06-2013, 12:05 PM

That's gotta be one of the best job openings/overall situations in recent years.

BillJasper · 12-06-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

That's gotta be one of the best job openings/overall situations in recent years.

I'm not so sure. Any new coach is going to likely be stuck with Rick Smith as GM, doesn't know if Arian Foster will ever be the same after back surgery and Andre Johnson may want out. Plus, they don't have a QB and will probably have to eat the Matt Schaub extension.

Vince, Pt. II · 12-06-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

I'm not so sure. Any new coach is going to likely be stuck with Rick Smith as GM, doesn't know if Arian Foster will ever be the same after back surgery and Andre Johnson may want out. Plus, they don't have a QB and will probably have to eat the Matt Schaub extension.

We've seen recently how unnecessary a big name RB is, and with the high draft pick they will have, they can replace Schaub if necessary. Eating the contract sucks, but the team has a ton of talent there. Especially considering the weakness of the AFC, it wouldn't be surprising for them to be a playoff team next year.

BillJasper · 12-06-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

We've seen recently how unnecessary a big name RB is, and with the high draft pick they will have, they can replace Schaub if necessary. Eating the contract sucks, but the team has a ton of talent there. Especially considering the weakness of the AFC, it wouldn't be surprising for them to be a playoff team next year.

It's not that they won't be able to replace Foster, but that he is going to eat a pretty big piece of cap space over the next few years.

JPhillips · 12-06-2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Dalton just hit his ceiling, that is all. He's a solid game manager type, maybe slightly better, and that is it.

He can't handle the blitz. He's got great numbers non-blitz and terrible numbers when blitzed. It seems like that could be fixed to some degree, but maybe not.

Vince, Pt. II · 12-06-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

It's not that they won't be able to replace Foster, but that he is going to eat a pretty big piece of cap space over the next few years.

True, he and Schaub will be a cap nightmare combined.

BillJasper · 12-06-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

True, he and Schaub will be a cap nightmare combined.

Then there's obviously questions about Brian Cushing whose missed most of the past two seasons and also has a large cap number.

I think the Texans have talent, but I'm not sure someone is going to be able to come in and turn it around right away.

Julio Riddols · 12-06-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

He can't handle the blitz. He's got great numbers non-blitz and terrible numbers when blitzed. It seems like that could be fixed to some degree, but maybe not.

I think the biggest problem when he gets blitzed is that the interior line is really bad at slowing down blitzes up the middle. He's shorter, so when you put guys right in his lap he definitely struggles.. I think he can do better, but I think the Bengals need to figure out how to use the talent at their disposal a little better too. That'll come in the next couple years.

Sun Tzu · 12-07-2013, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

kool kwotes: "You are what your record says you are." - Bill Parcells

This is cute, but the league has passed Parcells by. The last 10+ years have shown that your record is in all actuality just a qualifier for an EOY tournament, in which the team going in with the best record in either conference gets eliminated 80% of the time (that is the actual stat).

cuervo72 · 12-07-2013, 10:49 AM

Then it's a good thing the Redskins have been mathematically eliminated, or local callers would still be thinking they had a better chance than Dallas or Philly (being the better team and all).

Desnudo · 12-07-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

This is cute, but the league has passed Parcells by. The last 10+ years have shown that your record is in all actuality just a qualifier for an EOY tournament, in which the team going in with the best record in either conference gets eliminated 80% of the time (that is the actual stat).

That's a nice myth you've developed even if you add in the last 3 years of winners.

RealClearSports - Regular Season Record of Super Bowl Winners

ISiddiqui · 12-07-2013, 04:07 PM

How does that counter the point?

Desnudo · 12-07-2013, 04:12 PM

Your odds of winning are a lot higher if you have a record of 12-4 or higher which usually indicates some level of home field. so the regular season does matter and it's not just a "play in" tournament.

ISiddiqui · 12-07-2013, 04:14 PM

He merely said the "team going in with the best record" doesn't really end up winning the big game (Any Given Sunday and all that). Hence, "you are what your record is" is simplistic at best.

bulletsponge · 12-08-2013, 12:05 PM

holy snow bowl! anyone else here getting the phili game?

EagleFan · 12-08-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

holy snow bowl! anyone else here getting the phili game?

That is insane, it only just started snowing there around 11.

Comey · 12-08-2013, 12:10 PM

Eagles-Lions is the national game on FOX. This is fantastic.

Desnudo · 12-08-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

He merely said the "team going in with the best record" doesn't really end up winning the big game (Any Given Sunday and all that). Hence, "you are what your record is" is simplistic at best.

He also said regular season is basically a play in, simplistically speaking.

ColtCrazy · 12-08-2013, 12:18 PM

Watching the Colts but flipping to Lions game. Loving the weather there!!!Down 29-4 early in my fantasy game, but he had Thursday players. Playoffs are on now!!

BillJasper · 12-08-2013, 12:25 PM

I think Miami is going to lose today.

EagleFan · 12-08-2013, 12:38 PM

Wow; 5 fumbles by Detroit already, 2 lost.

Comey · 12-08-2013, 12:40 PM

#1 seed in the playoffs in my money league, so I'm on bye. Playing spoiler in the FOFC league. Drafted #1 in my money league, last in the FOFC league. And we ended up that way.

Bush not playing as me wondering for next week...I have Ben Tate and a plethora of wideouts, but still...kind of concerning.

whomario · 12-08-2013, 12:45 PM

this is amazing to watch, but i´m wondering where the point is where you´d cancel this ?

miami_fan · 12-08-2013, 12:49 PM

I know I am in the minority but this reminds me of watching U.S open golf and having everyone shoot +10.

bulletsponge · 12-08-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

this is amazing to watch, but i´m wondering where the point is where you´d cancel this ?

thigh high snow

whomario · 12-08-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

I know I am in the minority but this reminds me of watching U.S open golf and having everyone shoot +10.

Only if they´d do it in monsoon like rainfall and winds

claphamsa · 12-08-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

this is amazing to watch, but i´m wondering where the point is where you´d cancel this ?

for cold and snow? never.

claphamsa · 12-08-2013, 01:00 PM

oucH AP

cuervo72 · 12-08-2013, 01:00 PM

Talk on the Redskins pregame is that Shanny could be gone very soon, if not today. Start of that game is making that look a little more probable.

Eagles game...that's nuts. Had friends post pics from morning tailgating and everything was clear (of course that was like at 7-8AM).

BillJasper · 12-08-2013, 01:04 PM

Wonder if Shanahan gets canned tomorrow?

claphamsa · 12-08-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Wonder if Shanahan gets canned tomorrow?

its snyder... middle of the 3rd QTR.

Radii · 12-08-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

oucH AP

oh no

Desnudo · 12-08-2013, 01:09 PM

Incompetent refereeing on both sides in the NE CLE game

EagleFan · 12-08-2013, 01:11 PM

Suh being Suh...

Matthean · 12-08-2013, 01:15 PM

Lions game a possible preview of the Super Bowl weather conditions.

claphamsa · 12-08-2013, 01:16 PM

Bengals go for it on 4th and 1 from the 1... looks like no dice. Wish I could watch!

BillJasper · 12-08-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Lions game a possible preview of the Super Bowl weather conditions.

Good!

EagleFan · 12-08-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Lions game a possible preview of the Super Bowl weather conditions.

How awesome would that be?

MizzouRah · 12-08-2013, 01:18 PM

Now that's football weather!

claphamsa · 12-08-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

Bengals go for it on 4th and 1 from the 1... looks like no dice. Wish I could watch!

review? touchdown? WHATS GOING ON!

BillJasper · 12-08-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

review? touchdown? WHATS GOING ON!

I'm not sure but it didn't look like they had enough evidence to overturn the ruling on the field.

Julio Riddols · 12-08-2013, 01:22 PM

Wow, terrible call goes in favor of the Bengals. I'll take it, but that's a huge miss by the refs.

Matthean · 12-08-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Wonder if Shanahan gets canned tomorrow?

Article saying he thought about quitting last year not helping. Hard to imagine the Rams not taking that deal over and over again. If Houston can win another, Washington is in the running for the first pick, which would go to the Rams.

claphamsa · 12-08-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Article saying he thought about quitting last year not helping. Hard to imagine the Rams not taking that deal over and over again. If Houston can win another, Washington is in the running for the first pick, which would go to the Rams.

hes just trying to get fired so he keeps the money.... (by talking, not sucking, that would happen anyways)

Matthean · 12-08-2013, 01:29 PM

Thomkal · 12-08-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

How awesome would that be?

Not sure it would be very awesome-they have basically given up on FG's and XP's from what I've seen on RedZone of the game-Can't establish much of a passing game. If you're a fan of a team that relies more on the passing game, do you really want it shut down for the Super Bowl?

I wouldn't mind a few flurries during the game, but a blizzard? No thanks.

Solecismic · 12-08-2013, 01:41 PM

I'm really impressed with the technology from Fox. Automatically superimposing the yard numbers isn't an easy task.

I still can't stand the Lions. Too many cheap shots and almost-cheap shots.

It's a shame that one of these teams (hopefully Detroit) might very well miss the playoffs over a game that isn't exactly the modern game of football. But it's a winter game and you take the weather the way it is.

12-07-2013, 10:49 AM	#63
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Then it's a good thing the Redskins have been mathematically eliminated, or local callers would still be thinking they had a better chance than Dallas or Philly (being the better team and all). __________________ null

12-07-2013, 04:07 PM	#65
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	How does that counter the point? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

12-07-2013, 04:12 PM	#66
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Your odds of winning are a lot higher if you have a record of 12-4 or higher which usually indicates some level of home field. so the regular season does matter and it's not just a "play in" tournament. Last edited by Desnudo : 12-07-2013 at 04:12 PM.

12-07-2013, 04:14 PM	#67
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	He merely said the "team going in with the best record" doesn't really end up winning the big game (Any Given Sunday and all that). Hence, "you are what your record is" is simplistic at best. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

12-08-2013, 12:05 PM	#68
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	holy snow bowl! anyone else here getting the phili game? __________________ the Barbarian, WW Royal Rumble Champion

12-06-2013, 11:56 AM	#53
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	When he collapsed on the sidelines and the owner stayed to watch the game instead of go to the hospital . . . that was probably a bit of a "writing is on the wall" moment.

12-06-2013, 12:05 PM	#54
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	That's gotta be one of the best job openings/overall situations in recent years.

12-08-2013, 12:10 PM	#70
Comey College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT via PA via CA via PA	Eagles-Lions is the national game on FOX. This is fantastic. __________________

12-08-2013, 12:18 PM	#72
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	Watching the Colts but flipping to Lions game. Loving the weather there!!!Down 29-4 early in my fantasy game, but he had Thursday players. Playoffs are on now!! __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

12-08-2013, 12:25 PM	#73
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I think Miami is going to lose today. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

12-08-2013, 12:38 PM	#74
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Wow; 5 fumbles by Detroit already, 2 lost. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

12-08-2013, 12:40 PM	#75
Comey College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT via PA via CA via PA	#1 seed in the playoffs in my money league, so I'm on bye. Playing spoiler in the FOFC league. Drafted #1 in my money league, last in the FOFC league. And we ended up that way. Bush not playing as me wondering for next week...I have Ben Tate and a plethora of wideouts, but still...kind of concerning. __________________

12-08-2013, 12:45 PM	#76
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	this is amazing to watch, but i´m wondering where the point is where you´d cancel this ? __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!” Last edited by whomario : 12-08-2013 at 12:48 PM.

12-08-2013, 12:49 PM	#77
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I know I am in the minority but this reminds me of watching U.S open golf and having everyone shoot +10. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-08-2013, 01:00 PM	#81
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	oucH AP __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

12-08-2013, 01:04 PM	#83
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Wonder if Shanahan gets canned tomorrow? __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

12-08-2013, 01:09 PM	#86
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Incompetent refereeing on both sides in the NE CLE game

12-08-2013, 01:11 PM	#87
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Suh being Suh... __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

12-08-2013, 01:15 PM	#88
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Lions game a possible preview of the Super Bowl weather conditions. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 12-08-2013 at 01:15 PM.

12-08-2013, 01:16 PM	#89
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Bengals go for it on 4th and 1 from the 1... looks like no dice. Wish I could watch! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

12-08-2013, 01:18 PM	#92
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Now that's football weather!

12-08-2013, 01:22 PM	#95
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Wow, terrible call goes in favor of the Bengals. I'll take it, but that's a huge miss by the refs. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

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Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	__________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

12-08-2013, 01:41 PM	#100
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	I'm really impressed with the technology from Fox. Automatically superimposing the yard numbers isn't an easy task. I still can't stand the Lions. Too many cheap shots and almost-cheap shots. It's a shame that one of these teams (hopefully Detroit) might very well miss the playoffs over a game that isn't exactly the modern game of football. But it's a winter game and you take the weather the way it is.

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