Super Bowl LII - Page 3

jbergey22 · 02-04-2018, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

So how good is Foles?

Do the Eagles trade him off a hot run?

Foles is a backup quarterback capable of winning the super bowl with a great team around him. He could start on some average to below average teams. Eagles would be wise to keep him and his 5.5 million contract. Having a backup like Foles is underrated in the NFL. Look at what happened to the Packers when Rogers went out. Its that all too common situation in the NFL where a team overpays for a player based on a small sample size and unusual situations. The Eagles TEAM was fantastic and Foles was put into a situation to be successful. If you put Foles on the Browns he isnt going to look much different that what they are used to.

Congrats to the Eagles and to the classy Eagle fans out there. To the idiot Eagle fans you didnt deserve this outcome.

Thomkal · 02-04-2018, 09:58 PM

Was a great game offensively, not so much defensively, so I probably would not rate it as one of the top Super Bowls of all time. On the other hand the Patriots lost...

JPhillips · 02-04-2018, 10:11 PM

Duracell wins the Super Bowl.

Batteries hold a sacred place in the history of Philly fans. Congratulations, Philadelphia, and Fly, Duracell, Fly. pic.twitter.com/qkEcPbFj4N
— Duracell (@Duracell) February 5, 2018

sabotai · 02-04-2018, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Our group thinks the Tide ads were clear winners. Honorable mention to the Dodge Vikings commercial.

I liked the Tide ads too.

molson · 02-04-2018, 10:21 PM

Fun, frustrating game, but I'm happy for all the Eagles fans I've met over the years and my mother's side of the family from Philadelphia who tried to get me into the Eagles when I was kid.

Carman Bulldog · 02-04-2018, 10:26 PM

So WTF is the Malcolm Butler story? Apparently he said "They gave up on me. F—. It is what it is,” to Mike Reiss and Adam Schefter after the game. And apparently Belichek said it’s not a disciplinary action.

Odd time to send some sort of message.

Julio Riddols · 02-04-2018, 10:27 PM

The Tide ads were some of the most genius marketing of all time. Legit made every ad a Tide ad. We watched for dirty clothes in subsequent commercials and there were remarkably few. One of the best ads I've seen.

The ads that seemed to be flaunting charity pissed me off. Don't bullshit me with common courtesy and pass it off as a great sacrifice for your fellow man.

molson · 02-04-2018, 10:28 PM

Patriots apparently first team ever, in any game, to put up 600 yards of offense and lose.

Vince, Pt. II · 02-04-2018, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

So WTF is the Malcolm Butler story? Apparently he said "They gave up on me. F—. It is what it is,” to Mike Reiss and Adam Schefter after the game. And apparently Belichek said it’s not a disciplinary action.

Odd time to send some sort of message.

Yeah, this was super odd to me. I am finding it hard to believe we know the whole story right now, but then again my brain can't figure out what/where it could conceivably go from here.

Scoobz0202 · 02-04-2018, 10:32 PM

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It's an honor to even be here. To my wife, my teammates -- nubmer 81. I know you're looking down on us--, to my parents... I wish I could win this for you, but I'll be back. I still feel like we're in a position to win next year.

- Tom Brady

And he had AH81 in black sharpie on his hand per reports. Kind of... weird. I get he may have been a good teammate but......

Suicane75 · 02-04-2018, 10:37 PM

I really don't know how to put how I feel into words. I'm happy. Just happy.

molson · 02-04-2018, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

And he had AH81 in black sharpie on his hand per reports. Kind of... weird. I get he may have been a good teammate but......

I didn't listen to his post game press conference but I'm reading on Reddit that this is made up and he didn't actually say that

MrBug708 · 02-04-2018, 10:44 PM

Congrats to the Philly fans! May the vomit be ever happily flowing onto fellow fans at the parade!

bhlloy · 02-04-2018, 10:55 PM

PFF isn't the be all and end all, but they had Butler as a pretty average CB and Rowe as one of the worst in the league. When you give up 375 yards and 3 TD's to Nick Foles, maybe the Patriots just out Patriot-ed themselves on this one. You can understand why he's not happy about it.

Scoobz0202 · 02-04-2018, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I didn't listen to his post game press conference but I'm reading on Reddit that this is made up and he didn't actually say that

That's what I get for reading Twitter

Eaglesfan27 · 02-04-2018, 11:02 PM

The feelings of watching that with my mom, my son, and the rest of my family are indescribable. So elated right now.

tucker rocky · 02-04-2018, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

The feelings of watching that with my mom, my son, and the rest of my family are indescribable. So elated right now.

Congrats Eaglesfan27

AENeuman · 02-05-2018, 12:51 AM

So will this be remembered as what happens when two great offenses go at it or the most defense-less game ever? Looking at stats, it seems like a pro bowl.

PilotMan · 02-05-2018, 02:47 AM

I really wish that Wentz had been able to play, but he still gets a ring, which is awesome. Very happy with the Eagles win.

stevew · 02-05-2018, 03:40 AM

Kevin Harlan and Boomer Esiason on the radio is like AIDS for your ears. Literally Harlan is the fucking worst. And Boomer doesn't even say anything what he talks. The only highlight of the radio broadcast was that they would occasionally ask Mike Holmgren for an opinion or a take and he was pretty good

miami_fan · 02-05-2018, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

So WTF is the Malcolm Butler story? Apparently he said "They gave up on me. F—. It is what it is,” to Mike Reiss and Adam Schefter after the game. And apparently Belichek said it’s not a disciplinary action.

Odd time to send some sort of message.

This is the same coach who benched Wes Welker for the start of a playoff game. If the benching was for disciplinary reasons, he gets credit from me. If the rules are the rules, he has to bench him

CrimsonFox · 02-05-2018, 07:50 AM

I couldn't bear to watch something I cared about that little and a franchise with people that are ruining the casual football market. I did not watch because the Pats were in it. So glad they lost but I'm afraid they'll never go away

Logan · 02-05-2018, 08:18 AM

Congrats to the Eagles fans here, I have a couple in my family so I was happy to root for them.

corbes · 02-05-2018, 08:27 AM

Eagles Superbowl Champs - Merrill Reese and Mike Quick Call it! - YouTube

Buccaneer · 02-05-2018, 09:24 AM

From about week 5 onwards, I’ve believed that the Eagles were the best team in the NFL and the playoffs and Super Bowl proved it. When Carson went down, the experts inexplicably dropped them from 1 to 4, even behind Minnesota. They were the best in the NFC all season long, with the Pats the best in the AFC, and I think everyone agreed that the NFCwas clearly better than the AFC (and will likely be for years to come).

jeff061 · 02-05-2018, 10:08 AM

Congrats to Eagles fans. It was like watching the Pats play themselves, well deserved and a great game.

Vince, Pt. II · 02-05-2018, 10:20 AM

I was extremely impressed with Doug Pederson; I'm not sure how much of that was the fact that the Eagles were successful on all those 4th down "gambles," but my short-term memory is telling me I liked the calls before they were successful.

I don't catch a lot of Eagles games; has he been highly regarded for a while? In very early hindsight this seemed like an extremely well coached/gameplanned/executed game by the Eagles.

molson · 02-05-2018, 10:24 AM

I was dreading them going for it on 4th every time, because I knew it was the right call and I knew they'd probably get it. I've seen teams lose to the Patriots who weren't being nearly aggressive enough.

And I think it's the statistically correct call most times. You just need a coach willing to pull the trigger.

miami_fan · 02-05-2018, 10:58 AM

I did not get a chance to listen to most of the NFL podcasts that I usually listen to last week. I have spent most of the morning listening back to what people thought may happen. Nick Foles may have topped Tony Eason as the least respected Super Bowl OB in the run up to the game that I can remember.

AlexB · 02-05-2018, 11:36 AM

Great game, terrible logo (looked more like LIII than LII)

Not feeling so great now after 4 hours sleep, but worth staying up to watch

stevew · 02-05-2018, 11:50 AM

Can we just call it Super Bowl 53 next year? Roman Numerals are dumb once you get above 25 or so.

cartman · 02-05-2018, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Can we just call it Super Bowl 53 next year? Roman Numerals are dumb once you get above 25 or so.

I couldn't remember how to write 51, 6 and 500 in roman numerals. Not being able to recall made me LIVID

Eaglesfan27 · 02-05-2018, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

I was extremely impressed with Doug Pederson; I'm not sure how much of that was the fact that the Eagles were successful on all those 4th down "gambles," but my short-term memory is telling me I liked the calls before they were successful.

I don't catch a lot of Eagles games; has he been highly regarded for a while? In very early hindsight this seemed like an extremely well coached/gameplanned/executed game by the Eagles.

I remember some rumblings at the beginning of the year that he was over his head and might not be the right guy for the job. I am glad to see him silence all of his critics. He called a great game and has done so all year.

stevew · 02-05-2018, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I couldn't remember how to write 51, 6 and 500 in roman numerals. Not being able to recall made me LIVID

I kept wondering why she wants the 500.

larrymcg421 · 02-05-2018, 03:43 PM

The first 4th down call was riskier. The second one seems definitely the right call since worst case scenario is Pats go up by 8 and Eagles still have a shot.

miami_fan · 02-05-2018, 03:53 PM

The ratings are in.

Still going to be the most viewed TV show of the year but..

Super Bowl Delivers Smallest Television Audience Since 2009 - Bloomberg

103.4 million watched. Down from the 111 million from last year.

I saw another article that added 2.6 million viewers via Comcast-owned streaming options.

stevew · 02-05-2018, 05:11 PM

So i guess Butler missed a team flight, several curfews and was getting stoned in the lead up to the game?

BYU 14 · 02-05-2018, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I remember some rumblings at the beginning of the year that he was over his head and might not be the right guy for the job. I am glad to see him silence all of his critics. He called a great game and has done so all year.

Seriously one of the better called games I have seen in the Superbowl from an offensive standpoint. Patricia does not get outcoached much, and even when his defenses struggle early he is adept at making adjustments. He was given a clinic yesterday.

miami_fan · 02-05-2018, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

So i guess Butler missed a team flight, several curfews and was getting stoned in the lead up to the game?

Not sure of your source but this article has an explanation for the missed flight.

Patriots notebook: Malcolm Butler battling through illness | Boston Herald

Maybe they were actually lying earlier in the week.

PilotMan · 02-05-2018, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Not sure of your source but this article has an explanation for the missed flight.

Patriots notebook: Malcolm Butler battling through illness | Boston Herald

Maybe they were actually lying earlier in the week.

That sounds like cover frankly. The scuttle hinges on a divided locker room and his emotion pregame just fuels that.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-05-2018, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Still going to be the most viewed TV show of the year but..

Super Bowl Delivers Smallest Television Audience Since 2009 - Bloomberg

More interestingly, perhaps, is that the 7% decline is very much in line with the 8% dropoff for the conference championships and the 9% drop in the regular season overall.

Those of us who are gone are, well, gone. And neither commercials nor halftime shows change that.

Here's to a continued steady decline.

EagleFan · 02-05-2018, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

The ratings are in.

Still going to be the most viewed TV show of the year but..

Super Bowl Delivers Smallest Television Audience Since 2009 - Bloomberg

103.4 million watched. Down from the 111 million from last year.

I saw another article that added 2.6 million viewers via Comcast-owned streaming options.

That's one of those "shows" that's really hard to get true numbers for. So many parties and groups watching together. I know a bunch of the "never watching NFL again" snowflakes who had their panties in a bunch over the anthem protests who were the first people to ask about going to a party or having their own parties for it (not just Eagles fans but other fans as well).

It's going to be down as the number of options continue to grow and may be harder to get true numbers as the options for viewing it continue to expand.

PilotMan · 02-05-2018, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

More interestingly, perhaps, is that the 7% decline is very much in line with the 8% dropoff for the conference championships and the 9% drop in the regular season overall.

Those of us who are gone are, well, gone. And neither commercials nor halftime shows change that.

Here's to a continued steady decline.

PilotMan · 02-05-2018, 07:22 PM

Cause that's the only possible reason, right?

Who did NASCAR piss off then?

molson · 02-05-2018, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

More interestingly, perhaps, is that the 7% decline is very much in line with the 8% dropoff for the conference championships and the 9% drop in the regular season overall.

Makes you wonder why the NFL rigs all these games for the Patriots, as I've been reading here for years.

Edward64 · 02-05-2018, 07:38 PM

The picture of Foles looking at the trophy is a great shot.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/02/05/su...eter-king-mmqb

Butter · 02-06-2018, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

More interestingly, perhaps, is that the 7% decline is very much in line with the 8% dropoff for the conference championships and the 9% drop in the regular season overall.

Those of us who are gone are, well, gone. And neither commercials nor halftime shows change that.

Here's to a continued steady decline.

Yet here you are in the Super Bowl thread.

albionmoonlight · 02-06-2018, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

The ratings are in.

Still going to be the most viewed TV show of the year but..

Super Bowl Delivers Smallest Television Audience Since 2009 - Bloomberg

103.4 million watched. Down from the 111 million from last year.

I saw another article that added 2.6 million viewers via Comcast-owned streaming options.

A few factors:

The NFL is still doing great. We had just gotten used to it doing greater than great. A reversion to "like other highly rated television" maybe does not need much explanation.

My sense is that the concussion stuff is starting to seep through to the more casual fans. Fans like us have come to peace with it, but I think that the ones most likely to peel off might have started to do that.

I'd really like to see the breakdown by age. Kids today have a lot more entertainment options and are not used to "plop down in front of a non-interactive screen for three hours" as something they want to do. How do the ratings look for that 18-25 yo demographic? Are millennials killing football, too

?

Despite my prediction that it would not matter, the police brutality protests do seem to have turned off some fans. Much like with the concussion fans, I don't see those coming back.

jbergey22 · 02-06-2018, 10:05 AM

Im certainly not the pulse of the entire country but an overwhelming response from people I got that werent going to watch the super bowl were similar to this "Im not going to watch them overpaid assholes shit on our country." I think the decline is directly related to the kneeling problem. A lot of very proud veterans that were previously NFL fans finally said enough is enough.

Edward64 · 02-06-2018, 10:54 AM

I'm in the anti-Kapernick, spoiled multi-millionaire ingrate camp and was turned off by the others that copied him. This country, warts and all, is still one of the best places for opportunity and bettering your place in life.

Although initially turned off, I did start watching NFL games again because the protesting has for the most part stopped.

02-04-2018, 09:58 PM	#102
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Was a great game offensively, not so much defensively, so I probably would not rate it as one of the top Super Bowls of all time. On the other hand the Patriots lost... __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

02-04-2018, 10:11 PM	#103
JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Duracell wins the Super Bowl. Batteries hold a sacred place in the history of Philly fans. Congratulations, Philadelphia, and Fly, Duracell, Fly. pic.twitter.com/qkEcPbFj4N — Duracell (@Duracell) February 5, 2018 __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

02-04-2018, 10:27 PM	#107
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	The Tide ads were some of the most genius marketing of all time. Legit made every ad a Tide ad. We watched for dirty clothes in subsequent commercials and there were remarkably few. One of the best ads I've seen. The ads that seemed to be flaunting charity pissed me off. Don't bullshit me with common courtesy and pass it off as a great sacrifice for your fellow man. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

02-04-2018, 11:02 PM	#116
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	The feelings of watching that with my mom, my son, and the rest of my family are indescribable. So elated right now. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

02-05-2018, 02:47 AM	#119
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I really wish that Wentz had been able to play, but he still gets a ring, which is awesome. Very happy with the Eagles win. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

02-04-2018, 10:21 PM	#105
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Fun, frustrating game, but I'm happy for all the Eagles fans I've met over the years and my mother's side of the family from Philadelphia who tried to get me into the Eagles when I was kid.

02-04-2018, 10:26 PM	#106
Carman Bulldog College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada	So WTF is the Malcolm Butler story? Apparently he said "They gave up on me. F—. It is what it is,” to Mike Reiss and Adam Schefter after the game. And apparently Belichek said it’s not a disciplinary action. Odd time to send some sort of message.

02-04-2018, 10:28 PM	#108
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Patriots apparently first team ever, in any game, to put up 600 yards of offense and lose.

02-04-2018, 10:37 PM	#111
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	I really don't know how to put how I feel into words. I'm happy. Just happy.

02-04-2018, 10:44 PM	#113
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Congrats to the Philly fans! May the vomit be ever happily flowing onto fellow fans at the parade!

02-04-2018, 10:55 PM	#114
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	PFF isn't the be all and end all, but they had Butler as a pretty average CB and Rowe as one of the worst in the league. When you give up 375 yards and 3 TD's to Nick Foles, maybe the Patriots just out Patriot-ed themselves on this one. You can understand why he's not happy about it.

02-05-2018, 12:51 AM	#118
AENeuman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SF	So will this be remembered as what happens when two great offenses go at it or the most defense-less game ever? Looking at stats, it seems like a pro bowl.

02-05-2018, 03:40 AM	#120
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Kevin Harlan and Boomer Esiason on the radio is like AIDS for your ears. Literally Harlan is the fucking worst. And Boomer doesn't even say anything what he talks. The only highlight of the radio broadcast was that they would occasionally ask Mike Holmgren for an opinion or a take and he was pretty good

02-05-2018, 07:50 AM	#122
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I couldn't bear to watch something I cared about that little and a franchise with people that are ruining the casual football market. I did not watch because the Pats were in it. So glad they lost but I'm afraid they'll never go away

02-05-2018, 08:18 AM	#123
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Congrats to the Eagles fans here, I have a couple in my family so I was happy to root for them.

02-05-2018, 08:27 AM	#124
corbes College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	Eagles Superbowl Champs - Merrill Reese and Mike Quick Call it! - YouTube

02-05-2018, 09:24 AM	#125
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	From about week 5 onwards, I’ve believed that the Eagles were the best team in the NFL and the playoffs and Super Bowl proved it. When Carson went down, the experts inexplicably dropped them from 1 to 4, even behind Minnesota. They were the best in the NFC all season long, with the Pats the best in the AFC, and I think everyone agreed that the NFCwas clearly better than the AFC (and will likely be for years to come).

02-05-2018, 10:08 AM	#126
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Congrats to Eagles fans. It was like watching the Pats play themselves, well deserved and a great game. __________________

02-05-2018, 10:20 AM	#127
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	I was extremely impressed with Doug Pederson; I'm not sure how much of that was the fact that the Eagles were successful on all those 4th down "gambles," but my short-term memory is telling me I liked the calls before they were successful. I don't catch a lot of Eagles games; has he been highly regarded for a while? In very early hindsight this seemed like an extremely well coached/gameplanned/executed game by the Eagles.

02-05-2018, 10:24 AM	#128
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I was dreading them going for it on 4th every time, because I knew it was the right call and I knew they'd probably get it. I've seen teams lose to the Patriots who weren't being nearly aggressive enough. And I think it's the statistically correct call most times. You just need a coach willing to pull the trigger.

02-05-2018, 10:58 AM	#129
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I did not get a chance to listen to most of the NFL podcasts that I usually listen to last week. I have spent most of the morning listening back to what people thought may happen. Nick Foles may have topped Tony Eason as the least respected Super Bowl OB in the run up to the game that I can remember. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946 Last edited by miami_fan : 02-05-2018 at 10:58 AM.

02-05-2018, 11:36 AM	#130
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	Great game, terrible logo (looked more like LIII than LII) Not feeling so great now after 4 hours sleep, but worth staying up to watch __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports! Last edited by AlexB : 02-05-2018 at 11:36 AM.

02-05-2018, 11:50 AM	#131
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Can we just call it Super Bowl 53 next year? Roman Numerals are dumb once you get above 25 or so.

02-05-2018, 03:43 PM	#135
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	The first 4th down call was riskier. The second one seems definitely the right call since worst case scenario is Pats go up by 8 and Eagles still have a shot. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

02-05-2018, 03:53 PM	#136
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	The ratings are in. Still going to be the most viewed TV show of the year but.. Super Bowl Delivers Smallest Television Audience Since 2009 - Bloomberg 103.4 million watched. Down from the 111 million from last year. I saw another article that added 2.6 million viewers via Comcast-owned streaming options. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

02-05-2018, 05:11 PM	#137
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	So i guess Butler missed a team flight, several curfews and was getting stoned in the lead up to the game?

02-05-2018, 07:22 PM	#144
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Cause that's the only possible reason, right? Who did NASCAR piss off then? __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

02-05-2018, 07:38 PM	#146
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	The picture of Foles looking at the trophy is a great shot. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/02/05/su...eter-king-mmqb

02-06-2018, 10:05 AM	#149
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Im certainly not the pulse of the entire country but an overwhelming response from people I got that werent going to watch the super bowl were similar to this "Im not going to watch them overpaid assholes shit on our country." I think the decline is directly related to the kneeling problem. A lot of very proud veterans that were previously NFL fans finally said enough is enough.

02-06-2018, 10:54 AM	#150
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	I'm in the anti-Kapernick, spoiled multi-millionaire ingrate camp and was turned off by the others that copied him. This country, warts and all, is still one of the best places for opportunity and bettering your place in life. Although initially turned off, I did start watching NFL games again because the protesting has for the most part stopped.

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