02-06-2018, 10:59 AM | #151 |
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Look at who the Walter Payton Man of the Year was. He likely had done more tangible good to those in need than all of the token protesters this season combined.
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02-06-2018, 11:09 AM | #152 | |
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Well this year they are going to have a black driver. That probably pissed off some of these anti-kneelers . They just knew it was eventually going to happened so gradually stopped their watching a few years back...
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02-06-2018, 11:11 AM | #153 |
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I think that it's hard to compare. We're having a lot more conversations about police brutality than we would had the players not bothered. Is that worth more or less than headlining a successful fund-raising initiative after a natural disaster?
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02-06-2018, 11:13 AM | #154 |
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On a more serious note, is anyone noticing that ratings are down ACROSS THE BOARD? Why are people acting like the NFL is the only sports league, or entertainment programming, that has lower TV ratings?
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02-06-2018, 11:16 AM | #155 | |
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NBA Ratings Up Nearly 30 Percent on ESPN, TNT | Media - AdAge |
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02-06-2018, 11:24 AM | #156 | ||
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As another article around the same time of Dec 1 (a day or two earlier) reported: As NFL ratings drop, ESPN's NBA viewership is up 24 percent this season Quote:
FWIW, if it holds, NBA may the only major league to be bucking the trend, as MLB's and NHL's ratings have been down as well. NBA players are more politically inclined as well, interestingly enough.
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02-06-2018, 11:41 AM | #157 | |
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I don't think politics matter very much in sports ratings. The vast majority of people are going to watch what entertains them. The NFL's push to become a year-round sport is hurting interest more than anything IMO. People tire of it being at the top of the new cycle 12 months out of the year. Moving the draft back up to where it was and actually having an offseason would be the first step in helping things. |
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02-06-2018, 12:49 PM | #158 | |
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Very much this. The impact of a protest is completely indirect and delayed, while disaster relief is very direct with an immediate payout. |
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02-06-2018, 06:52 PM | #159 |
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Regarding ratings, several questions.
During the regular season in my household, 90% of our NFL viewing is RedZone. Is that counted in the ratings? I can watch RedZone but I have a very hard time watching non-RedZone broadcasts*, not because of protestings but due to the insane amount of commercials (and a little bit because of the concussive hits). Fox is the worst, I perceive, and rarely watch any games on Fox. But it looks like it's going to get even worse with their new TNF contract, will they increase the amount of commercials even more? I know Manfred brought it up for MLB and I think Goddell did last year? Is this even changeable?? I understand networks need to not lose money on their contracts but don't you think part of the reason is the exponentially increasing cost of production? I mean, do we really need 18 cameras? Do we need all the gimmicks that add to the need to have even more commercials? I do like Fox' on-field technology (and that cost money too) even though others are now doing it better. Speaking of that, do you find it funny that Fox put all that effort into its silly robotic/mech graphics but their score line is straight 1970s (compared to the brilliance of NBC's score line)? So bottom line, since the commissioners did bring it up, don't you think a lot of the drop is due to the amount of commercials? What if they reduced the production costs (number of cameras, personnel, etc.), would that lead to a reduction in the number of commercials? *caveat: I stopped watching TV regularly about 20 years ago, mostly due to commercials. So that's a bias I have in not being a regular sports viewer as well. |
02-06-2018, 07:02 PM | #160 | |
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He was involved with something that did good but it's not like without his face no one would have helped. While I suspect Kaepernick's motives weren't all about the cause (more like all about getting himself noticed but it backfired) but the movement that followed put that discussion on the front page. It now led to an NFL program that never would have existed without it. |
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02-06-2018, 07:20 PM | #161 | |
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Exactly, and many of these players (Malcolm Jenkins as an example) were putting considerable time and resources into programs to fight injustice and improve the lot of disadvantaged youth, many times in relative obscurity. The protests, as EF mentioned have benefitted Jenkins efforts, as well as many others. So on that alone, they had a positive impact. |
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02-06-2018, 07:24 PM | #162 | |
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Kaepernick is doing what he should keep on doing (which included making the last of his million dollar put-his-money-where-his-mouth-is donation) and not be distracted by football (and vice-versa). That's not token, unlike what some of the players this season who just wanted "to bring awareness" without having to sacrifice much because football and its wealth is all-consuming. With Kaep out of football, he can do more if it's true motivation. |
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02-06-2018, 09:16 PM | #163 | |
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Good question. I would like to know that one as well. [quote=Buccaneer;3194348I can watch RedZone but I have a very hard time watching non-RedZone broadcasts*, not because of protestings but due to the insane amount of commercials (and a little bit because of the concussive hits). Fox is the worst, I perceive, and rarely watch any games on Fox. But it looks like it's going to get even worse with their new TNF contract, will they increase the amount of commercials even more? I know Manfred brought it up for MLB and I think Goddell did last year? Is this even changeable?? I understand networks need to not lose money on their contracts but don't you think part of the reason is the exponentially increasing cost of production? I mean, do we really need 18 cameras? Do we need all the gimmicks that add to the need to have even more commercials? I do like Fox' on-field technology (and that cost money too) even though others are now doing it better. Speaking of that, do you find it funny that Fox put all that effort into its silly robotic/mech graphics but their score line is straight 1970s (compared to the brilliance of NBC's score line)? So bottom line, since the commissioners did bring it up, don't you think a lot of the drop is due to the amount of commercials? What if they reduced the production costs (number of cameras, personnel, etc.), would that lead to a reduction in the number of commercials? *caveat: I stopped watching TV regularly about 20 years ago, mostly due to commercials. So that's a bias I have in not being a regular sports viewer as well.[/QUOTE] I am assuming that a reduction in the commercials will result in less money in the owners' pockets so I don't think that is happening any time soon.
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Congrats to the Eagles and their fans. Lost a great game to a very good team. Not the first one we've lost, and at least we're still 8 for 8 on playing good/close games.
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but I think once Clement had possession his 2nd foot was clearly on the white & that should've been overturned based on the way the rule was called most of the season. Pats still had the lead in the 4th and the Eagles made plenty of plays to win, and we benefited from a few high profile technical calls like that this year, but that's one I think is overturned 8 or 9 out of 10 times during the season. Quote:
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I also wouldn't put it past Belichick to franchise tag or re-sign Butler just to make everyone's heads explode If you get a godfather offer during the draft, maybe, but with Wentz's injury happening late in the season & Foles under contract at a reasonable amount I think I'd hold on to him for now and make sure Wentz is back healthy (and if necessary you don't need to rush him back and end up in a Luck-like situation.) Can likely trade him next trade deadline for a 2nd/3rd rounder if Wentz comes back 100%, and with his personality, bad experiences in other organizations, and knowledge his contract runs out after 2018 I don't think Foles would be any sort of bad apple if he's the backup next season. Quote:
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02-07-2018, 11:14 AM | #165 |
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The little pause by Pederson after Foles suggested to run the Philly Special is incredible.
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02-07-2018, 11:34 AM | #166 |
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That's some great film. Make that the last play of the game and it is straight out of a movie.
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02-07-2018, 01:24 PM | #168 |
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Yeah, that was a great call and a good history behind that play. The Eagles won because they did what the Falcons and Jaguars would not do - keep playing aggressive till the end, the best way to beat the Pats.
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02-07-2018, 01:29 PM | #169 | |
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If that was in a movie, even Denzel wouldn't have been able to nail Peterson's perfect combined reaction of surprise, excitement, agreement, and "this guy has some balls!". |
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02-07-2018, 01:38 PM | #170 | |
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But if it was like Denzel’s movie or any other “based on a true story” football movie, they would have had the Eagles come back from a big deficit and win on the final play. |
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