WW LXXIV Killer Kittens on Mount FujiMori day (GAME OVER- KITTENS WIN)

[Lathum]

Olie how did you catch me in anything?

Read my posts, they are 100% accurate with my role.

YOU were the one that questions how I knew I was the fool when it seemed pretty obvious.

Seems like you are trying to discredit my reveal and get an easy lynch from it.

[claphamsa]

deadline!

[st.cronin]

I think we have to lynch hoopsguy next.

[Coffee Warlord]

Alright, everyone, go back and read Lathum's posts this morning. Especially his exchange with Cronin, and his defense of PB.

Heading to lunch, so I don't have to time quote everything. But to me, it's extremely damning, to the point where I think he is indeed doing a fake reveal.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

Because if you are a wolf and come out with a fake reveal as the fool, then you are "harmless" and there is no reason to kill you. Thus you get to stay around and make trouble longer...

at this stage of the game with no heat on me at all on day 2 there would be zero reason to make that play.

stop causing problems.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I don't quite think hoops was hinting at what you say he was hinting at.

Have you read 649 and 650?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I think we have to lynch hoopsguy next.

Why do you think that?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Alright, everyone, go back and read Lathum's posts this morning. Especially his exchange with Cronin, and his defense of PB.

Heading to lunch, so I don't have to time quote everything. But to me, it's extremely damning, to the point where I think he is indeed doing a fake reveal.

I was defending PB because I wanted to be able to scan him so I would have more info about wheather or not I was the fool or the seer.

honestly, lynch me tomorrow, I am basicly just a villager at this point so we wont be losing a more important role.

of course we also wont be getting a wolf.

[claphamsa]

[Lathum]

I scanned Olie, she came back light. Not that it matters.

[claphamsa]

oK, I cant get my lolcat to post :'(

you wake up, in the midfdle of the night. and hear.....

MOARWR LOLCATS R INVINCIBEL...


Ill try and get the pic up soon.

pms going out.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Have you read 649 and 650?

Yes. I do not read them as hoops hinting that he is a seer/fool. I read them as hoops picking up PB's hints that PB is a seer/fool.

I followed KWhit last night, and saw nothing.

[claphamsa]

http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/V...x?ciid=1264425

[claphamsa]

if u wanna see the pic!

[jeheinz72]

W00t, no one died! Me likey.

[jeheinz72]

[Passacaglia]

So the LOLCAT was attacked? And can't be killed?

[claphamsa]

thasnk heinze

[claphamsa]

im off to get an MD DL ill answer any questiosn later.

[EagleFan]

Was there a block? Did we get some more information last night? Does the person who was attacked know what happened? A lot of good questions to be answered today. This could be another quick game if we can land another wolf.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Yes. I do not read them as hoops hinting that he is a seer/fool. I read them as hoops picking up PB's hints that PB is a seer/fool.

I followed KWhit last night, and saw nothing.

But PB already spelled out his hints in post 631, an hour earlier. What's the reason for hoops to point them out later?

[st.cronin]

Pass, you might be correct. I'm inclined to lynch hoopsguy anyway, but I don't understand how you specifically see hoops hinting that he is a seer. Maybe you can make it clearer, because to me those posts are "I'm a little bit afraid that PB is a seer, but not afraid enough to change my vote."

[jeheinz72]

Well, I officially haven't the slightest idea of who to vote for, truth be told.

[st.cronin]

Pass, also you have to explain why hoops would vote for PurdueBrad. Even if he scanned him as dark, he might want to give him the benefit of the doubt, until they figure out which is fool and which is seer.

[st.cronin]

mccollins votes Coffee Warlord (493)
jeheinz72 votes st.cronin (505)
st.cronin votes PurdueBrad (506)
Passacaglia votes PurdueBrad (508)
Lathum votes PurdueBrad (516) - this is consistent with his claim that he scanned me as light
Lathum unvotes PurdueBrad, claims 516 was a joke - post 550 says "I'm not voting for cronin"
EagleFan votes oliegirl (557) - I think this is a joke
oliegirl votes Eaglefan (561) - I think this is a joke
Coffee Warlord votes mccollins (562)
EagleFan unvotes oliegirl (564)
oliegirl unvotes EagleFan (569)
EagleFan votes st.cronin (582)
RendeR votes PurdueBrad (593)
Lathum votes PurdueBrad (594)
PurdueBrad votes Coffee Warlord (597)
oliegirl votes PurdueBrad (610)
Seolian votes PurdueBrad (611)
KWhit votes mccollins (612)
PurdueBrad unvotes Coffee Warlord, votes EagleFan (626)
PurdueBrad reveals as seer/fool (631)
EagleFan unvotes st.cronin, votes hoopsguy (658)
Chief Rum votes Coffee Warlord (661)
hoopsguy votes PurdueBrad (663)
Passacaglia unvotes PurdueBrad (665)
PurdueBrad unvotes EagleFan, votes hoopsguy (668)
Lathum unvotes PurdueBrad, votes hoopsguy (670)
RendeR unvotes PurdueBrad, votes EagleFan (674)
st.cronin hints that PurdueBrad is lying (679)
strange comment by Pass:

Why? I'm looking for reasons not to believe him, but I don't see any.

(681)
The Jackal votes PurdueBrad (683)
Passacaglia votes mccolins (690)
Seolian unvotes PurdueBrad, votes mccollins (692)
st.cronin reveals as the stray (720)
jeheinz72 unvotes st.cronin, votes EagleFan (721) ****
Coffee Warlord unvotes mccollins, votes PurdueBrad (726)
KWhit unvotes mccollins, votes PurdueBrad (736)
dangarion votes st.cronin (743)
jeheinz72 unvotes EagleFan, votes PurdueBrad (745)
Passacaglia unvotes mccollins, votes PurdueBrad (750)
Seolian unvotes mccollins, votes hoopsguy (773)

[st.cronin]

Heinz's vote for EagleFan jumps out at me.

[Lathum]

I would like to know what CW saw in my posts to create suspiscoun.

[st.cronin]

VOTE JEHEINZ72

[Passacaglia]

re: The strange comment -- I'd been suspecting PB since Day 1, so I wanted to keep myself on that track, but I didn't see any reason not to believe him.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Pass, also you have to explain why hoops would vote for PurdueBrad. Even if he scanned him as dark, he might want to give him the benefit of the doubt, until they figure out which is fool and which is seer.

the chiwawa shows up as light when scanned, so unless hoops is the fool ( which I know he is not) then thats not possible

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Heinz's vote for EagleFan jumps out at me.

That jumped out at me, too. It was made the same minute as your reveal, so I don't think he saw it. But it again seemed like he was trying to save PB.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Lathum

the chiwawa shows up as light when scanned, so unless hoops is the fool ( which I know he is not) then thats not possible

I think that's Pass's point - that hoops was hinting at being the fool, and therefore either you or hoops is a wolf.

[jeheinz72]

I did not see Cronin's reveal when I voted for EF. But I had seen where PB tried to say Cronin was light. I actually believed that and was unvoting based off of it.

EF was my next logical choice at the time (since I didn't see Cronin's reveal yet)

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I think that's Pass's point - that hoops was hinting at being the fool, and therefore either you or hoops is a wolf.

but how could hoops possibly think he was the fool?

Your reveal is the only way I know I am the fool, otherwise I would operate under the assumption I was the seer.

[jeheinz72]

But either way, I have no real defense here. I've made some moves that at the time I thought were correct but were later proven as egregiously bad.

If it gets me lynched, I'll hardly be surprised (though I'm just a mere kitteh)

[st.cronin]

Lathum, I don't know. I don't really understand Pass's theory.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

but how could hoops possibly think he was the fool?

Your reveal is the only way I know I am the fool, otherwise I would operate under the assumption I was the seer.

Maybe I'm off on this but I think lathum is still working under the impression that his scanning ability has any verifiability.

no matter who Lathum scans it comes back light, so when he scans Cronin he gets light. So what? its meaningless, it does not prove anything because the scan result is NOT dependant on cronin's actual status.

Therefore Nothing Lathum says can be trusted to mean anything at all.

Cronin is not verified as thestray and lathum is NOT verified as the fool.

Does that help anyone?

Sorry I've been out, busy monday. I'll read my PM's now.

[st.cronin]

Render - Lathum assumes he is the fool, because my reveal has somewhat been verified. Therefore he KNOWS his scan was incorrect.

[Lathum]

Render- I'm not trying to prove anything with my scans.

I am just saying why I must be the fool.

[mccollins]

I'm currently back on post #667, trying to read through as fast as I can. I'll respond to things that I feel really need it.

I know what happened during the night, and before I finish reading I'll just say that the village does NOT want to vote for me.

k thx bai 4 now!

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Render - Lathum assumes he is the fool, because my reveal has somewhat been verified. Therefore he KNOWS his scan was incorrect.

His scans will always be light, IF he can scan at all. Perhaps I wasn't clear on this.

We cannot assume he's telling the truth because WE have no verification that he has the ability to scan anyone at all.

He can sit there and feed us scan results all he wants, but it tells the rest of us nothing because we cannot in any way verify that he IS indeed roled kitteh.

Does that make more sense?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RendeR

His scans will always be light, IF he can scan at all. Perhaps I wasn't clear on this.

We cannot assume he's telling the truth because WE have no verification that he has the ability to scan anyone at all.

He can sit there and feed us scan results all he wants, but it tells the rest of us nothing because we cannot in any way verify that he IS indeed roled kitteh.

Does that make more sense?

but what is the insentive for me to lie at this point?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Render- I'm not trying to prove anything with my scans.

I am just saying why I must be the fool.

Yeah, I get that now, I'm just reminding everyone that you COULD be lying through your teeth =)

Fake-revealing as the fol in this game is a good move by the dogs because even if there is a counter-reveal there really is no way to prove anything. Even if we lynchboth parties we don't learn the truth of the matter on their deaths.

Its a great wait to foment chaos and kee[p us from focusing on anyone else.

Just saying.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by RendeR

His scans will always be light, IF he can scan at all. Perhaps I wasn't clear on this.

We cannot assume he's telling the truth because WE have no verification that he has the ability to scan anyone at all.

He can sit there and feed us scan results all he wants, but it tells the rest of us nothing because we cannot in any way verify that he IS indeed roled kitteh.

Does that make more sense?

Well, you don't have to believe him, he might be lying. But the logic he's presented as to why he thinks he's the fool is sound.

[Lathum]

lol.

everytime I try to do something that is helpfull to the villagers people think I am up to something.

[st.cronin]

I don't think fake-revealing as the fool is a great move in this game. I disagree with that.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I would like to know what CW saw in my posts to create suspiscoun.

I'll try and go more detail soon (just got back from lunch, food coma + actual work), but I don't like the interplay you had with cronin. You were kinda vocal in your suspicion of him, and at the time, if you really had scanned him light, there would be no reason for you to suspect him. Combined with your vote for hoops over PB (who were basically the two main candidates), that's what is triggering you for me.

[oliegirl]

LOL @ Lathum...Friday you questioned why I was quiet, now that I'm actually being vocal and throwing stuff out there, I'm making problems. I can't win with you can I???? See, if you had gone to see Sex and the City this weekend, you would be thinking clearly and see that I am right...it's the shoes - all those shoes made me super smart so I saw through your diabolical plan!



OK, it got cloudy (stupid rain) so we are home, jumping in the shower then going to watch a movie with my little one (who isn't so little anymore)...I'm caught up til now, I'm back on the phones at 5 so I'll be back about 4:45 at the latest...

[st.cronin]

I never thought that Lathum was suspicious of me.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by mccollins

I know what happened during the night, and before I finish reading I'll just say that the village does NOT want to vote for me.!

Do tell, 'cause I really want to lynch you. Still.