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Old 04-05-2009, 05:17 PM   #51
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This game blows!

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Old 04-05-2009, 10:16 PM   #52
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This game blows!

Thanks for that post very constructive. What are you modder for OOTP or just Markus' brother in law?
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Old 04-05-2009, 11:39 PM   #53
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Thanks for that post very constructive. What are you modder for OOTP or just Markus' brother in law?

Nope just someone that has purchased the game 5 times and still see some of the same bugs it has had since 2003 and a huge fan of a real baseball game OOTP baseball.


The 9 hits in 138 innings cracks me up. Sound like a pretty good game engine in place does it?

Cant make lemonade from spoiled lemons

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Old 04-05-2009, 11:50 PM   #54
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a real baseball game OOTP baseball

Calling OOTP "real baseball" pretty much just wiped out your credibility.
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Old 04-05-2009, 11:52 PM   #55
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Calling OOTP "real baseball" pretty much just wiped out your credibility.

Ah shucks. Atleast it means I at one point had some which is more than I can say for you.

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Old 04-05-2009, 11:56 PM   #56
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Ah shucks. Atleast it means I at one point at some which is more than I can say for you.

When I need any shit from you I'll squeeze your head. Until then, go slobber on the object of your fanboy affection, I'm sure he loves it.
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Old 04-05-2009, 11:59 PM   #57
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When I need any shit from you I'll squeeze your head. Until then, go slobber on the object of your fanboy affection, I'm sure he loves it.

You are a clever one. YOu've been riding the short bus again havent you? BTW you should probably go look up the meaning of "fanboy" so you dont use it in instances where it doesnt quite fit in.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:00 AM   #58
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6.5. That was the greatest.

Yep.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:03 AM   #59
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Nope just someone that has purchased the game 5 times and still see some of the same bugs it has had since 2003 and a huge fan of a real baseball game OOTP baseball.

That's pretty funny considering there's a fair number of threads/posts on the OOTP boards complaining about certain bugs having been in OOTP for several versions.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:04 AM   #60
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That's pretty funny considering there's a fair number of threads/posts on the OOTP boards complaining about certain bugs having been in OOTP for several versions.

Yes there has and I never once said there wasnt. Ive never seen anything close to 138IP and 9 hits however. Problem with OOTP is too many people want it to be a fantasy type game while the baseball fans want it to be a reflection of what todays baseball is or historical baseball was. Markus is trying to please too many people.

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Old 04-06-2009, 12:05 AM   #61
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You are a clever one. YOu've been riding the short bus again havent you? BTW you should probably go look up the meaning of "fanboy" so you dont use it in instances where it doesnt quite fit in.

Anybody that sings the praises of the clusterfucks that Markus has consistently produces qualifies with ease. Now crawl back under your rock or wherever you hang out, we'll call you if we find ourselves short of a village idiot.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:07 AM   #62
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Anybody that sings the praises of the clusterfucks that Markus has consistently produces qualifies with ease. Now crawl back under your rock or wherever you hang out, we'll call you if we find ourselves short of a village idiot.

Get a life man! Seriously!
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:14 AM   #63
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wow. never would have expected this type of exchange in this thread. LOL
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Old 04-06-2009, 01:37 AM   #64
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Clay hasn't made a good game in 7 years. I've purchased about 4 of the bad ones. I guess my idea of a good game means one that I can sim 100 years into the future (without it crashing) and beginning to play from there. I like to look over the history of the year. I don't like seeing 500 game winners and 1000 HR guys. I've seent aht way too many times in Mogul.

In my opinion, Markus's game really is world's above BM. BM's interface hasn't changed in 10 years. It may be simple but so was Windows 3.1. If your looking for another option, Puresim will probably be released later this year.
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Old 03-27-2010, 07:49 AM   #65
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:53 AM   #66
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I see a lot of IMPROVED things, but i wonder if there is any real improvement, i think last version i tried was 2006 or so.
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:20 AM   #67
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I see a lot of IMPROVED things, but i wonder if there is any real improvement, i think last version i tried was 2006 or so.

Well, I'll probably try the demo when it's released.

Looks like they now have FA bidding wars.. improved trade and draft AI, and adjustable roster sizes.. amoungst some other things.

How well it all works remains to be seen.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:04 PM   #68
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Demo is out, same link above.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:42 PM   #69
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I've loved the baseball mogul series for about 6 or 7 years now, I really enjoy the simplicity and the fact that its not OOTP. simplistic is perfect, and Mogul does it very well, I will be purchasing again.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:44 PM   #70
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dola, I also recommend this game to anyone that enjoys just a simple, yet working fun game of text baseball. with a few cool little graphics, but not micro managing every little damn thing like some other sims. There is no deciding on the ounces of pine tar on a bat of the backup 2nd basemen in your Australian double A team. And thats why I love it.
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Old 04-02-2010, 08:03 AM   #71
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The one thing I've always thought was REALLY cool in the Mogul games is when you start a fictional league it gives you fictional simulated stats without having to simulate future years yourself. You can start with previous simulated stats @ year 1. Plus, they are really simulated stats not Kurt Suzuki renamed Harry Hyundai with Kurt's Suzuki's stats.
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Old 04-02-2010, 08:30 AM   #72
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the thing that irritated me about mogul from a "simple game" POV was that there's no mechanism for changing starters into relievers.

it also always used to seem to me that there was too much "variability" built into player performance. a guy could be a total stud one year then a dud for 2-3 years. moreso than IRL.
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Old 04-02-2010, 08:57 AM   #73
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Do finances work more or less ok? I hate text sims where everything goes out of whack after a few years, with all teams becoming either too rich or totally bankrupt, leaving all stars sitting in FA for years and making it impossible to continue your league properly.
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:13 AM   #74
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I've really been enjoying PureSim and haven't even looked at Mogul in years. Does anyone who has played both have a comparison to share?
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Old 04-02-2010, 01:17 PM   #75
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I love Puresim too..

I'm waiting on HoustonGM over at the forums to release his rosters, then I will try out the demo.
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Old 04-02-2010, 04:22 PM   #76
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Ah shucks. Atleast it means I at one point had some which is more than I can say for you.

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When I need any shit from you I'll squeeze your head. Until then, go slobber on the object of your fanboy affection, I'm sure he loves it.

The annual BM release day quick someone invite JBergey22 and JIMGA over here to get reacquainted
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Old 04-02-2010, 04:44 PM   #77
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The annual BM release day quick someone invite JBergey22 and JIMGA over here to get reacquainted

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Old 04-02-2010, 05:20 PM   #78
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BM, the baseball fan's answer to MF...
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Old 04-02-2010, 05:35 PM   #79
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:27 AM   #81
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BM, the baseball fan's answer to MF...

Seriously.. not even close.

Give Clay some credit.. their football product might stink.. but BM isn't really that bad - I didn't get last years since not much had changed from 09, but he's been making changes for the better and I just might pick up BM11. That would give me all 3 baseball sims this year.
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Old 04-03-2010, 11:34 AM   #82
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Seriously.. not even close.

Give Clay some credit.. their football product might stink.. but BM isn't really that bad - I didn't get last years since not much had changed from 09, but he's been making changes for the better and I just might pick up BM11. That would give me all 3 baseball sims this year.

Agreed. It's a fun game that doesn't deserve the crap that some folks still feel compelled to dish out.
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Old 04-03-2010, 01:10 PM   #83
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Agreed. It's a fun game that doesn't deserve the crap that some folks still feel compelled to dish out.

Thank you. I totally agree and I haven't bought the game in the 3 or 4 years now.

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Old 04-03-2010, 01:14 PM   #84
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The thing with BM is you have to be able to take it for what it is. It's Axis and Allies, not War in the Pacific. If you can deal with almost everything not being accurate, it can be a very fun time waster. When I play BM I do so knowing it's flaws, but having fun in spite of them.
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Old 04-03-2010, 01:19 PM   #85
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The thing with BM is you have to be able to take it for what it is. It's Axis and Allies, not War in the Pacific. If you can deal with almost everything not being accurate, it can be a very fun time waster. When I play BM I do so knowing it's flaws, but having fun in spite of them.

Good comparison if BM is or can get to a Strategic Command level then that would be the sweet spot.
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Old 04-03-2010, 01:27 PM   #86
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The thing with BM is you have to be able to take it for what it is. It's Axis and Allies, not War in the Pacific. If you can deal with almost everything not being accurate, it can be a very fun time waster. When I play BM I do so knowing it's flaws, but having fun in spite of them.

So true.. although I do think it's a bit pricy at $34.99, shoot ootp was $5.00 cheaper. If it was $19.99, I would have already bought it.
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Old 04-03-2010, 01:38 PM   #87
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Old 04-03-2010, 04:17 PM   #88
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So true.. although I do think it's a bit pricy at $34.99, shoot ootp was $5.00 cheaper. If it was $19.99, I would have already bought it.

Agreed...I always enjoy playing it when I break it back out but at $34.99? Not even close to priced correctly.
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Old 04-03-2010, 06:12 PM   #89
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Agreed...I always enjoy playing it when I break it back out but at $34.99? Not even close to priced correctly.

I feel the same way. I find the game fun to play and usually buy a new version every other year or so but at $34.99 I'm holding off of this right now. $19.99 and I would be playing it.
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:48 PM   #90
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I used the $4 coupon that just came via the newsletter and picked it up. The engine itself has really improved along with some other nice changes this year.

It's fun to pick up and rattle of a chunk of games at a time.
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