FOFC's Greatest Athlete II (interactive) - Page 10

Breeze · 03-26-2012, 10:27 AM

Event 9 - Javelin - Event Points

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Babson		-	906
McCloud		-	901
Llyw		-	869
Rambus		-	827
Gonzalez	-	813
Gunderson	-	804
Nielsen		-	799
Ginsberg	-	771
Justice		-	766
Bafou		-	766
Ashkayev	-	766
McGilly		-	643

chesapeake · 03-26-2012, 10:46 AM

That throw for Llyw was clutch.

Breeze · 03-26-2012, 10:48 AM

Event 9 - Overall Standings - After 9 Events

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Babson		-	8140
McCloud		-	8009
Llyw		-	8004
Nielsen		-	7958
Rambus		-	7832
Ginsberg	-	7817
Justice		-	7793
Gunderson	-	7749
Bafou		-	7733
Gonzalez	-	7687
Ashkayev	-	7583
McGillicuddy	-	7567

ntndeacon · 03-26-2012, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breeze

Event 9 - Javelin - Results

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Babson		-	233
McCloud		-	232
Llyw		-	225
Rambus		-	216
Gonzalez	-	213
Gunderson	-	211
Nielsen		-	210
Ginsberg	-	204
Bafou		-	203
Justice		-	203
Ashkayev	-	187
McGillicuddy	-	176

you had the points right for me in the next box, but my distance was 203.

Breeze · 03-26-2012, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

you had the points right for me in the next box, but my distance was 203.

ok, let me see what I screwed up this time...

Yep...missed the improved distance when I was grabbing the info for the posting, but the points came straight from the score sheet so they were accurate. I have updated the results post above.

Thanks...

kingfc22 · 03-26-2012, 10:43 PM

I'm not sure how the scoring works, but I doubt I have a shot at a podium finish.

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 08:07 AM

Event 10 - 1500 Meters

We come into the final event with things very tight, especially when you consider the two overall leaders are arguably the worst 1500 meter runners in this meet. Nielsen is also a poor runner, but typically he is better than the 2 overall leaders, but is he good enough to close the gap? Ginsberg is sitting a couple hundred points out of first, but he is one of the best in this event, and a spot on the podium certainly isn't out of the question, and an overall win is still within reach...

The runners take the spots, the gun sounds...and they are off...a lot of jockeying for position early...theres some bumping and a mass of arms and legs and each runner tries to get into a rythem. Suprisingly Ashkayev is one of the leaders out of the gate, as he battles through his injury to take the point...Ginsberg is tucked in right behind...as expected Babson is way back by himself...not sure if this is his stategy to not get caught up in the early battle for position or if he is truly going to be this far back for the entire race...

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 08:26 AM

Event 10 - 1500 Meters

As the runners start working on the second lap, Ginsberg has pulled to the outside shoulder of Ashkayev, who continues to bravely charge on in this event...a few strides back Llyw and Rambis are running stride for stride. Gonzales and McGillicuddy leads the next group of runners, which also includes Bafou, Justice right next to each other and Nielsen a half a stride back...Bringing up the back end, Gunderson is a few strides behind Nielsen and McCloud is tucked in behind him. Babson brings up the rear, already approaching 20 seconds behind the leader...

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 09:15 AM

Event 10 - 1500 Meters

As we pass the half way point, Ashkayev is absolutely determined not to finish last...he has opened up a slight lead over Ginsberg...the second wave of runners has tighened up a bit...Rambis with a good little kick jumped in front of this group and Llyw is now running stride for stride with McGillicuddy right behind him. Also in the mix are Gonzalez, Bafou, and Justice, all swapping spots, and basically interchangable. Gunderson and Nielsen are about 12 seconds back of that group, and Babson and McCloud are another 6 second behind them. All in all Babson and McCloud are now about 25 seconds behind the leaders..

JAG · 03-27-2012, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breeze

as expected Babson is way back by himself...not sure if this is his stategy to not get caught up in the early battle for position

Uh yeah, strategy. That's the ticket.

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 10:03 AM

Event 10 - 1500 Meters

As the leaders head into the final turn before the sprint to the finish, the crowd is extremely impressed with the effort from Ashkayev. I expected to see him start to falter as the pain of his injury mounted with each stride, but rather than fade back, he's opened a lead. He is now 10 feet in front of Ginsberg who has really slowed down in the last lap and a half. In fact, Rambis has reeled him in and is now almost stride for stide with him, and Llyw has used Rambis as a pacer and he is tucked in right behind them. The next group of Bafou, McGillicuddy, and Gonzalez all continue to jockey for position...and on the tail end...Gunderson is now the leader with Nielsen, McCloud and Babson all in single file right beind...

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 10:15 AM

Event 10 - 1500 Meters

Ashkayev keeps up his amazing effort and charges across the line to win the event, posting an impressive time of 4:21....Justice really kicked it into gear on the last turn and has joined the group of Ginsberg, Llyw, and Rambis as they sprint to the line...and it is Llyw who crosses first with a time of 4:24, the other three cross simulaneously at 4:26...

Gonzalez is able to pull away with his kick to finish next with a 4:30, followed by McGillicuddy at 4:33, and Bafou's injury finally caught up to him as he closes out several seconds back with a time of 4:38...

The remaining runners are entering the home stretch and starting their...kick???

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 10:28 AM

Event 10 - 1500 Meters

As the remaining runners head to the line it isn't just about beating the other competitors, its about beating the clock...and it is going to be close. 3 of the 4 runners here had their eyes on a podium spot, with only Gunderson being out of the mix, but they allowed the pack to separate so much that this could be anybody's event.

Gunderson still leads the group, Nielsen is on his heals, and Babson has jumped in front of McCloud...

Babson continues his kick and pulls up even with Nielsen...as Gunderson continues to lead...

Gunderson in front, but Babson may have hit a wall, his speed has dropped considerably...maybe he kicked a bit to early...but Nielsen has passed him back and now McCloud is stride for stride with him on the outside shoulder.

It's Gunderson, and now Nielsen appears to have the bear on his back as well...and McCloud takes advantage to jump ahead and Babson is running stride for stride with Nielsen...

Gunderson crosses the line with McCloud a couple seconds back...officially finishing at 4:54 and 4:56 respectively, and Babson and Nielsen continue to battle...

As it ends up neither has the energy to separate and they cross together at 5:03...

Coffee Warlord · 03-27-2012, 10:30 AM

Dammit.

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 10:33 AM

Event 10 - 1500 Meters - Official Results

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Ashkayev	-	4:21
Llyw		-	4:24
Rambis		-	4:26
Ginsberg	-	4:26
Justice		-	4:26
Gonzalez	-	4:30
McGillicuddy	-	4:33
Bafou		-	4:38
Gunderson	-	4:54
McCloud		-	4:56
Babson		- 	5:03
Nielsen		-	5:03

chesapeake · 03-27-2012, 10:35 AM

Is beating Babson by 39 seconds going to be enough?

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 10:45 AM

Unless there are objections, I am going to post the final results before posting the event points in order to maintain some suspense...

I'll post the final results like this...

13th Place
Stan Gunner - 7500 Points (565 in the 1500)

Then later I'll post the event results with the points for each listed...

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 11:04 AM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

12th Place
Larry McGillicuddy - Ireland - 8,292
(725 points in the 1500)

After getting off to a good start in the first couple of events, The throwing events killed his chances. Terrible results in the Shot Put, Discus, and Javelin were the Irishman's downfall. The poor results weren't completely surprising given that the athlete came in with below average scores in these events, but the results recorded were even poor by his standards, which is why he finds himself in last place...

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 11:29 AM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

11th Place
Olaf Gunderson - Norway - 8,344
(595 points in the 1500)

Gunderson found himself in the bottom 3rd of event standings way to often...he did have very impressive results in the Shot and Discus, but they weren't enough to overcome poor results in other areas.

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 11:38 AM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

10th Place
Kurmanbek Ashkayev - Kyrgyz Republic - 8,388
(805 points in the 1500)

Ashkayev clearly wasn't tearing things up during the beginning of the competition, as he was in last at the close of the first day, but any chances he had of challenging were out the window when he injured himself on his last throw in the discus. Before the meet was over though, he was able to display his competitive nature as he fought through the injury to win the grueling 1500 meters...and he was able to stay out of last place despite having to compete in 3 events limited by his knee...

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 11:46 AM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

9th Place
Jawouk Bafou - Cameroon - 8,426
(693 points in the 1500)

The former basketball player was hanging around the middle of the pack for most of the event, poor results in the jumping events, of all things, was his undoing, as he finished 11th in the long jump and high jump. Combine those two poor results with an injury and Jawouk was destined to be in the bottom 3rd. In fact, he performed admirably to stay this high on the leaderboard.

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 11:52 AM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

8th Place
David Gonzalez - France - 8,432
(745 points in the 1500)

The first of the two returning competitors, Gonzalez finished most events in the bottom half, though his score was often close to many in front of him, but unfortunately, he wasn't able to get that last foot, or cut that half a second he needed to climb higher and gain more points. He actually benefitted from the injuries to Ashkayev and Bafou, because given how close the scores are, he might have had a hard time staying in front of one or both of those competitors if they were healthy.

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 12:04 PM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

7th Place
Rob Nielsen - Denmark - 8501
(543 points in the 1500)

The big Dane used his unbelievable jumping ability (high and long) to put himself in medal contention during the first day. He added strong performances in the hurdles and pole vault as well, but mediocre results in the discus and javelin, combined with an atrocious performance in the 1500 doomed his chances at getting on the platform. In fact, the 1500 was so bad he fell from 4th to 7th...

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 12:17 PM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

6th Place
Frank Justice - England - 8564
(39 points from 3rd place)
(771 points in the 1500)

The top 6 competitors are very tightly bunched as Justice finishing 6th and being only 39 points away from receiving a medal indicates. In fact, we can go all the way back to the beginning of the meet to find where Justice was undone. His poor 11.15 time in the 100 meters quite possibly cost him a place on the podium. An improvement of .2 seconds would have been enough. The same can be said about the hurdles...as that was the only other event he didn't perform well in, and he easily could have...he was a middle of the road performer in that event coming in, but he tied for last...

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 12:43 PM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

5th Place
David Ginsberg - Israel - 8588
(15 points from 3rd place)
(771 points in the 1500)

Ginsberg nearly ran himself into a medal...great performances in the 400 and hurdles combined with good ones in the 100 meters and 1500 were almost enough. Terrible results in the discus and shot put hurt. In fact, just 3 more feet in the discus, or 11" in the shot gets him a medal. Also if he had been able to stay with Ashkayev in the 1500 through the last turn all the way to the line he'd have been on the podium...Just needed to be 3 seconds faster...

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 12:59 PM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

4th Place
Fox McCloud - Scotland - 8592
(11 points from 3rd place)
(583 points in the 1500)

McCloud did extremely well, in fact, he came into the last event in 2nd place with designs on winning it all, but...there were 3 events that will really haunt him from this meet. He did very poorly in the 400 and 1500 which was expected and he was bad in the high jump as well. To get an additional 11 points only takes factional improvements, somewhere, anywhere, and he'd have had a metal...there were numerous opportunities. Coming so close to getting on the podium, I'm sure he'll been reliving these events for some time...maybe until the FOFC's Greatest Athlete III starts and he has a chance to redeem himself.

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 01:21 PM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

BRONZE MEDAL
Kurt Rambis, Jr. - USA - 8603
(80 points from 2nd place)
(771 points in the 1500)

A strong performance for the lone American in this years event. The all around athlete was good all day, never really dominated an event, but also didn't really get blown out in any either. A slightly better result in the Pole Vault may have enabled Rambis to win the event outright, as that was his lone poor result. In all Rambis finished...7th, 9th, T3rd, T2nd, 7th, T5th, 4th, T11th, 4th, T3rd. Really gutted out a strong performance in the 1500 when he needed it to get on the medal stand, as he was able to go from 5th to 3rd in that 1 event.

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 01:45 PM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

SILVER MEDAL
Brian Babson - Germany - 8603
(105 points from 1st place)
(543 points in the 1500)

Babson dominated this meet leading the entire way - until the very last event. When he was on, he was exceptional, finishing in the top 3 in 5 of the 10 events. The one event that will haunt him the most is probably the hurdles. Had he not clipped a hurdle and he had posted his typical time his score would have improved significantly...but the 400 and the 1500 were clearly his downfall...

Breeze · 03-27-2012, 01:46 PM

FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results

GOLD MEDAL
Gryffydd Llyw - Wales - 8788
(784 points in the 1500)

Quitely the man who needs a vowel or two walked away with the overall championship. A strong 1500 took him from about 140 points down to over 100 points up. Llwy was good all day long, including posting a couple Personal Bests in the event, which clearly help contribute to his victory. At the end of the first day, Llyw was 4th despite the fact he had only done exceptionally well in 1 event. In fact, he finished the events of the first day t8th, 1st, 9th, t9th, 4th. The second day was very strong from Gryffydd as he posted the following finishes in each event, 1st, t5th, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd, which carried him to the Gold...

JAG · 03-27-2012, 02:19 PM

Nice finish Llyw. Can't complain about a 2nd place finish at all.

Thanks for running this Breeze! Fun time, good write-ups.

chesapeake · 03-27-2012, 02:24 PM

Thanks, JAG. Llyw ran far better than I thought he could. I thought those events would be weaknesses and they turned out to be strengths.

Breeze, thanks for running this. It sure was fun!

larrymcg421 · 03-27-2012, 02:47 PM

I was surprised at how poor I did in the running events.

kingfc22 · 03-27-2012, 08:14 PM

Thanks Breeze.

britrock88 · 03-27-2012, 09:04 PM

Congrats to Llyw... thanks, Breeze... I'll try to figure out how to make Jawouk a jumper for next time.

Simbo Klice · 03-27-2012, 09:20 PM

Thanks for running Breeze! Rambis always seemed to underperform in his strong events and make it up by performing better than usual in his weaker ones, but if that gets me on the podium I'll take it!

PilotMan · 03-27-2012, 10:45 PM

Loved it, thanks man. I need a new strategy for decathaletes.

Breeze · 03-28-2012, 07:33 AM

hey guys,

glad you enjoyed it...sorry for the numerous transcribing errors...

Couple of interesting items...

In character creation Llyw took a pretty balanced approach to his statistics, whereas Rambis and Babson had some extreme differences from 1 skill to another, so both ways of generating a character worked. Everyone was careful not to get into fatigue penalties during the event, but several of you left points on the table. One I believe was Justice in Pole Vault...had he taken another attempt he would have maxed out...and added another 31 points...

If anyone has any suggestions or comment feel free to post them. I'm looking for ways to make this more entertaining and fair...

Simbo Klice · 03-30-2012, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breeze

hey guys,

glad you enjoyed it...sorry for the numerous transcribing errors...

Couple of interesting items...

In character creation Llyw took a pretty balanced approach to his statistics, whereas Rambis and Babson had some extreme differences from 1 skill to another, so both ways of generating a character worked. Everyone was careful not to get into fatigue penalties during the event, but several of you left points on the table. One I believe was Justice in Pole Vault...had he taken another attempt he would have maxed out...and added another 31 points...

If anyone has any suggestions or comment feel free to post them. I'm looking for ways to make this more entertaining and fair...

I liked how much was out and how much was "under the hood" so to speak,but from some of the times you mentioned performance in relation to cards it seemed like there was still quite a lot of "B" cards and not as much distribution as I'd expected.

The way I envisioned it being computed was just getting an aggregate number based on the weighted ratings for an event. (i.e. the shotput was 50% strength, 20% Explosiveness, 20% Technique, and 10% Focus- just hypotheticals) so you took the ratings to get one number on a scale to 100- so a competitor with 90 strength, 70 explosiveness, 60 Technique, and 50 Focus would get 45+14+12+5 for a rating of 76 that would then be translated into a card grade. Am I somewhat on the right track there?

It seemed to me from there that you went onto an arbitrary scale and that led to the bunching, though I could be way off the mark. But if that's the case I'd suggest either tightening the grade levels up or going to a curve based on all the scores before dividing them up by event.

What were the final card grade counts, if I may ask?

Breeze · 04-11-2012, 01:17 PM

Hey Simbo,

Sorry for the late reply...

your assessment of how the grades were determined was pretty accurate...but because all 100 stats were counting 100% across the 10 events, there ended up being a bunch of parity between the athletes, they just got to the event scores different ways. For instance...your 76 above could have been matched by someone with a low strenghth but high technique and focus on a given event, just based on how the percentages broke down.

I did apply a curve to the grades...in fact, had I not done that there would have been so many C rated cards that it wouldn't have been terribly interesting. In fact, the high jump and pole vault would have been Cs for everyone....

Overall I had...

10 - As
35 - Bs
34 - Cs
29 - Ds
10 - Fs

Also remember there is a randomness to the card making...just because you might have a B grade doesn't mean that the actual card was any better than a C card...just that the odds of getting a better card where higher because the pool of results that the card pulls from are typically better...but the chance to end up with the worst of the 3 outcomes in most of the rows still existed (and actually happened a few times)...

Hope that explains well enough....

CrimsonFox · 04-11-2012, 01:47 PM

I was on the edge of my seat the entire competition and always looked forward to updates as that was lots of fun. I sometimes felt that nothing I did mattered. ALmost like throwing darts at a donkey while blindfolded. We didn't understand any of the stats so we couldn't really make educated decisions. I tried doing so and it completely failed. For instance I thought Flexibility would help me in a couple events but it didn't. There were a couple really vague stats that could go anywhere. Like the last event too. I had a speed of 10, yet out of the gate Iwas in second to last place, instead of coming out of the gate in front and then falling back halfway when my low stamina caught up with me. That's where I thought the rests would help but the rests didn't seem to do anything. Once you choose stats it seemed locked in. Or else there were even more things going on we didn't know. NOt complaining about the game. It was very fun. I just think it would be more fun if we knew where we stood statwise and what stats mean. We still have a limited amount of points so that's where the decisions come in, but at least they would be decisions instead of incorrect guesses as to what might help us. (and thus avoid something that could totally screw us)

But like I said I still had fun.

Breeze · 04-17-2012, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I was on the edge of my seat the entire competition and always looked forward to updates as that was lots of fun. I sometimes felt that nothing I did mattered. ALmost like throwing darts at a donkey while blindfolded. We didn't understand any of the stats so we couldn't really make educated decisions. I tried doing so and it completely failed. For instance I thought Flexibility would help me in a couple events but it didn't. There were a couple really vague stats that could go anywhere. Like the last event too. I had a speed of 10, yet out of the gate Iwas in second to last place, instead of coming out of the gate in front and then falling back halfway when my low stamina caught up with me. That's where I thought the rests would help but the rests didn't seem to do anything. Once you choose stats it seemed locked in. Or else there were even more things going on we didn't know. NOt complaining about the game. It was very fun. I just think it would be more fun if we knew where we stood statwise and what stats mean. We still have a limited amount of points so that's where the decisions come in, but at least they would be decisions instead of incorrect guesses as to what might help us. (and thus avoid something that could totally screw us)

But like I said I still had fun.

Hey CF,

I understand your frustration, but the biggest reason for the vagueness was my fear that providing too many specifics of how each event was calculated would create a situation where a majority of the athletes would have been created in the same way and we'd end up with cards that were so similar in make up that the competition would be unentertaining...

But I am always open for suggestions...and we can discuss options next time before we crank up...

Glad you enjoyed it...

Breeze · 08-08-2012, 02:27 PM

In honor of the 100th year of the Decathlon, someone in a group I belong to redesigned the cards and rules of the track and field game used for this dynasty.

He also created some new cards for athletes like Clay that weren't in the version I had.

Might have to do a new dynasty soon...

britrock88 · 08-08-2012, 09:08 PM

Sweet. Ride the Olympic momentum.

Simbo Klice · 08-10-2012, 08:24 AM

I loved this, bring it back!

JAG · 08-10-2012, 01:32 PM

What Simbo said.

ntndeacon · 08-10-2012, 05:50 PM

yup it was awesome!

DavidCorperial · 08-10-2012, 06:47 PM

I'd be down for another.

kingfc22 · 08-11-2012, 07:54 PM

Count me in

Julio Riddols · 08-11-2012, 08:28 PM

Dude, I just noticed this and would love to participate.

sterlingice · 08-11-2012, 08:51 PM

I'd love to give it a go if you start back up

SI

03-26-2012, 10:27 AM	#451
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Event 9 - Javelin - Event Points Code: Babson - 906 McCloud - 901 Llyw - 869 Rambus - 827 Gonzalez - 813 Gunderson - 804 Nielsen - 799 Ginsberg - 771 Justice - 766 Bafou - 766 Ashkayev - 766 McGilly - 643

03-26-2012, 10:48 AM	#453
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Event 9 - Overall Standings - After 9 Events Code: Babson - 8140 McCloud - 8009 Llyw - 8004 Nielsen - 7958 Rambus - 7832 Ginsberg - 7817 Justice - 7793 Gunderson - 7749 Bafou - 7733 Gonzalez - 7687 Ashkayev - 7583 McGillicuddy - 7567

03-26-2012, 10:43 PM	#456
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I'm not sure how the scoring works, but I doubt I have a shot at a podium finish. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-27-2012, 10:15 AM	#462
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Event 10 - 1500 Meters *Ashkayev* keeps up his amazing effort and charges across the line to win the event, posting an impressive time of 4:21....Justice really kicked it into gear on the last turn and has joined the group of *Ginsberg, Llyw, and Rambis* as they sprint to the line...and it is *Llyw* who crosses first with a time of 4:24, the other three cross simulaneously at 4:26... *Gonzalez* is able to pull away with his kick to finish next with a 4:30, followed by *McGillicuddy* at 4:33, and *Bafou's* injury finally caught up to him as he closes out several seconds back with a time of 4:38... The remaining runners are entering the home stretch and starting their...kick??? Last edited by Breeze : 03-27-2012 at 10:38 AM.

03-27-2012, 10:28 AM	#463
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Event 10 - 1500 Meters As the remaining runners head to the line it isn't just about beating the other competitors, its about beating the clock...and it is going to be close. 3 of the 4 runners here had their eyes on a podium spot, with only *Gunderson* being out of the mix, but they allowed the pack to separate so much that this could be anybody's event. *Gunderson* still leads the group, *Nielsen* is on his heals, and *Babson* has jumped in front of *McCloud... Babson* continues his kick and pulls up even with *Nielsen...as Gunderson* continues to lead... *Gunderson* in front, but *Babson* may have hit a wall, his speed has dropped considerably...maybe he kicked a bit to early...but *Nielsen* has passed him back and now *McCloud* is stride for stride with him on the outside shoulder. It's *Gunderson, and now Nielsen* appears to have the bear on his back as well...and *McCloud* takes advantage to jump ahead and *Babson* is running stride for stride with *Nielsen... Gunderson* crosses the line with *McCloud* a couple seconds back...officially finishing at 4:54 and 4:56 respectively, and *Babson* and *Nielsen* continue to battle... As it ends up neither has the energy to separate and they cross together at 5:03... Last edited by Breeze : 03-27-2012 at 10:40 AM.

03-26-2012, 10:46 AM	#452
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	That throw for Llyw was clutch.

03-27-2012, 08:07 AM	#457
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Event 10 - 1500 Meters We come into the final event with things very tight, especially when you consider the two overall leaders are arguably the worst 1500 meter runners in this meet. *Nielsen* is also a poor runner, but typically he is better than the 2 overall leaders, but is he good enough to close the gap? *Ginsberg* is sitting a couple hundred points out of first, but he is one of the best in this event, and a spot on the podium certainly isn't out of the question, and an overall win is still within reach... The runners take the spots, the gun sounds...and they are off...a lot of jockeying for position early...theres some bumping and a mass of arms and legs and each runner tries to get into a rythem. Suprisingly *Ashkayev* is one of the leaders out of the gate, as he battles through his injury to take the point...Ginsberg is tucked in right behind...as expected *Babson* is way back by himself...not sure if this is his stategy to not get caught up in the early battle for position or if he is truly going to be this far back for the entire race...

03-27-2012, 08:26 AM	#458
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Event 10 - 1500 Meters As the runners start working on the second lap, *Ginsberg* has pulled to the outside shoulder of *Ashkayev, who continues to bravely charge on in this event...a few strides back Llyw* and *Rambis* are running stride for stride. *Gonzales* and *McGillicuddy* leads the next group of runners, which also includes *Bafou, Justice* right next to each other and *Nielsen* a half a stride back...Bringing up the back end, *Gunderson* is a few strides behind *Nielsen* and *McCloud* is tucked in behind him. *Babson* brings up the rear, already approaching 20 seconds behind the leader...

03-27-2012, 09:15 AM	#459
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Event 10 - 1500 Meters As we pass the half way point, *Ashkayev* is absolutely determined not to finish last...he has opened up a slight lead over *Ginsberg...the second wave of runners has tighened up a bit...Rambis with a good little kick jumped in front of this group and Llyw* is now running stride for stride with *McGillicuddy* right behind him. Also in the mix are *Gonzalez, Bafou, and Justice, all swapping spots, and basically interchangable. Gunderson* and *Nielsen* are about 12 seconds back of that group, and *Babson* and *McCloud* are another 6 second behind them. All in all *Babson* and *McCloud* are now about 25 seconds behind the leaders..

03-27-2012, 10:03 AM	#461
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Event 10 - 1500 Meters As the leaders head into the final turn before the sprint to the finish, the crowd is extremely impressed with the effort from *Ashkayev. I expected to see him start to falter as the pain of his injury mounted with each stride, but rather than fade back, he's opened a lead. He is now 10 feet in front of Ginsberg* who has really slowed down in the last lap and a half. In fact, *Rambis* has reeled him in and is now almost stride for stide with him, and *Llyw* has used *Rambis* as a pacer and he is tucked in right behind them. The next group of *Bafou, McGillicuddy, and Gonzalez* all continue to jockey for position...and on the tail end...Gunderson is now the leader with *Nielsen, McCloud* and *Babson* all in single file right beind...

03-27-2012, 10:30 AM	#464
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Dammit.

03-27-2012, 10:33 AM	#465
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Event 10 - 1500 Meters - Official Results Code: Ashkayev - 4:21 Llyw - 4:24 Rambis - 4:26 Ginsberg - 4:26 Justice - 4:26 Gonzalez - 4:30 McGillicuddy - 4:33 Bafou - 4:38 Gunderson - 4:54 McCloud - 4:56 Babson - 5:03 Nielsen - 5:03

03-27-2012, 10:35 AM	#466
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Is beating Babson by 39 seconds going to be enough?

03-27-2012, 10:45 AM	#467
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Unless there are objections, I am going to post the final results before posting the event points in order to maintain some suspense... I'll post the final results like this... 13th Place Stan Gunner - 7500 Points (565 in the 1500) Then later I'll post the event results with the points for each listed...

03-27-2012, 11:04 AM	#468
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results 12th Place Larry McGillicuddy - Ireland - 8,292 (725 points in the 1500) After getting off to a good start in the first couple of events, The throwing events killed his chances. Terrible results in the Shot Put, Discus, and Javelin were the Irishman's downfall. The poor results weren't completely surprising given that the athlete came in with below average scores in these events, but the results recorded were even poor by his standards, which is why he finds himself in last place...

03-27-2012, 11:29 AM	#469
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results 11th Place Olaf Gunderson - Norway - 8,344 (595 points in the 1500) Gunderson found himself in the bottom 3rd of event standings way to often...he did have very impressive results in the Shot and Discus, but they weren't enough to overcome poor results in other areas.

03-27-2012, 11:38 AM	#470
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results 10th Place Kurmanbek Ashkayev - Kyrgyz Republic - 8,388 (805 points in the 1500) Ashkayev clearly wasn't tearing things up during the beginning of the competition, as he was in last at the close of the first day, but any chances he had of challenging were out the window when he injured himself on his last throw in the discus. Before the meet was over though, he was able to display his competitive nature as he fought through the injury to win the grueling 1500 meters...and he was able to stay out of last place despite having to compete in 3 events limited by his knee...

03-27-2012, 11:46 AM	#471
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results 9th Place Jawouk Bafou - Cameroon - 8,426 (693 points in the 1500) The former basketball player was hanging around the middle of the pack for most of the event, poor results in the jumping events, of all things, was his undoing, as he finished 11th in the long jump and high jump. Combine those two poor results with an injury and Jawouk was destined to be in the bottom 3rd. In fact, he performed admirably to stay this high on the leaderboard.

03-27-2012, 11:52 AM	#472
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results 8th Place David Gonzalez - France - 8,432 (745 points in the 1500) The first of the two returning competitors, Gonzalez finished most events in the bottom half, though his score was often close to many in front of him, but unfortunately, he wasn't able to get that last foot, or cut that half a second he needed to climb higher and gain more points. He actually benefitted from the injuries to Ashkayev and Bafou, because given how close the scores are, he might have had a hard time staying in front of one or both of those competitors if they were healthy.

03-27-2012, 12:04 PM	#473
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results 7th Place Rob Nielsen - Denmark - 8501 (543 points in the 1500) The big Dane used his unbelievable jumping ability (high and long) to put himself in medal contention during the first day. He added strong performances in the hurdles and pole vault as well, but mediocre results in the discus and javelin, combined with an atrocious performance in the 1500 doomed his chances at getting on the platform. In fact, the 1500 was so bad he fell from 4th to 7th...

03-27-2012, 12:17 PM	#474
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results 6th Place Frank Justice - England - 8564 (39 points from 3rd place) (771 points in the 1500) The top 6 competitors are very tightly bunched as Justice finishing 6th and being only 39 points away from receiving a medal indicates. In fact, we can go all the way back to the beginning of the meet to find where Justice was undone. His poor 11.15 time in the 100 meters quite possibly cost him a place on the podium. An improvement of .2 seconds would have been enough. The same can be said about the hurdles...as that was the only other event he didn't perform well in, and he easily could have...he was a middle of the road performer in that event coming in, but he tied for last... Last edited by Breeze : 03-27-2012 at 12:18 PM.

03-27-2012, 12:43 PM	#475
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results 5th Place David Ginsberg - Israel - 8588 (15 points from 3rd place) (771 points in the 1500) Ginsberg nearly ran himself into a medal...great performances in the 400 and hurdles combined with good ones in the 100 meters and 1500 were almost enough. Terrible results in the discus and shot put hurt. In fact, just 3 more feet in the discus, or 11" in the shot gets him a medal. Also if he had been able to stay with Ashkayev in the 1500 through the last turn all the way to the line he'd have been on the podium...Just needed to be 3 seconds faster... Last edited by Breeze : 03-27-2012 at 12:46 PM.

03-27-2012, 12:59 PM	#476
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results 4th Place Fox McCloud - Scotland - 8592 (11 points from 3rd place) (583 points in the 1500) McCloud did extremely well, in fact, he came into the last event in 2nd place with designs on winning it all, but...there were 3 events that will really haunt him from this meet. He did very poorly in the 400 and 1500 which was expected and he was bad in the high jump as well. To get an additional 11 points only takes factional improvements, somewhere, anywhere, and he'd have had a metal...there were numerous opportunities. Coming so close to getting on the podium, I'm sure he'll been reliving these events for some time...maybe until the FOFC's Greatest Athlete III starts and he has a chance to redeem himself. Last edited by Breeze : 03-27-2012 at 12:59 PM.

03-27-2012, 01:21 PM	#477
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results BRONZE MEDAL Kurt Rambis, Jr. - USA - 8603 (80 points from 2nd place) (771 points in the 1500) A strong performance for the lone American in this years event. The all around athlete was good all day, never really dominated an event, but also didn't really get blown out in any either. A slightly better result in the Pole Vault may have enabled Rambis to win the event outright, as that was his lone poor result. In all Rambis finished...7th, 9th, T3rd, T2nd, 7th, T5th, 4th, T11th, 4th, T3rd. Really gutted out a strong performance in the 1500 when he needed it to get on the medal stand, as he was able to go from 5th to 3rd in that 1 event.

03-27-2012, 01:45 PM	#478
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results SILVER MEDAL Brian Babson - Germany - 8603 (105 points from 1st place) (543 points in the 1500) Babson dominated this meet leading the entire way - until the very last event. When he was on, he was exceptional, finishing in the top 3 in 5 of the 10 events. The one event that will haunt him the most is probably the hurdles. Had he not clipped a hurdle and he had posted his typical time his score would have improved significantly...but the 400 and the 1500 were clearly his downfall...

03-27-2012, 01:46 PM	#479
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	FOFC's Greatest Athlete - Official Results GOLD MEDAL Gryffydd Llyw - Wales - 8788 (784 points in the 1500) Quitely the man who needs a vowel or two walked away with the overall championship. A strong 1500 took him from about 140 points down to over 100 points up. Llwy was good all day long, including posting a couple Personal Bests in the event, which clearly help contribute to his victory. At the end of the first day, Llyw was 4th despite the fact he had only done exceptionally well in 1 event. In fact, he finished the events of the first day t8th, 1st, 9th, t9th, 4th. The second day was very strong from Gryffydd as he posted the following finishes in each event, 1st, t5th, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd, which carried him to the Gold... Last edited by Breeze : 03-27-2012 at 01:47 PM.

03-27-2012, 02:19 PM	#480
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Nice finish Llyw. Can't complain about a 2nd place finish at all. Thanks for running this Breeze! Fun time, good write-ups.

03-27-2012, 02:24 PM	#481
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Thanks, JAG. Llyw ran far better than I thought he could. I thought those events would be weaknesses and they turned out to be strengths. Breeze, thanks for running this. It sure was fun! Last edited by chesapeake : 03-27-2012 at 02:24 PM.

03-27-2012, 02:47 PM	#482
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	I was surprised at how poor I did in the running events. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

03-27-2012, 08:14 PM	#483
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Thanks Breeze. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-27-2012, 09:04 PM	#484
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	Congrats to Llyw... thanks, Breeze... I'll try to figure out how to make Jawouk a jumper for next time.

03-27-2012, 09:20 PM	#485
Simbo Klice High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2009	Thanks for running Breeze! Rambis always seemed to underperform in his strong events and make it up by performing better than usual in his weaker ones, but if that gets me on the podium I'll take it!

03-27-2012, 10:45 PM	#486
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Loved it, thanks man. I need a new strategy for decathaletes. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

03-28-2012, 07:33 AM	#487
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	hey guys, glad you enjoyed it...sorry for the numerous transcribing errors... Couple of interesting items... In character creation Llyw took a pretty balanced approach to his statistics, whereas Rambis and Babson had some extreme differences from 1 skill to another, so both ways of generating a character worked. Everyone was careful not to get into fatigue penalties during the event, but several of you left points on the table. One I believe was Justice in Pole Vault...had he taken another attempt he would have maxed out...and added another 31 points... If anyone has any suggestions or comment feel free to post them. I'm looking for ways to make this more entertaining and fair...

04-11-2012, 01:17 PM	#489
Breeze Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL	Hey Simbo, Sorry for the late reply... your assessment of how the grades were determined was pretty accurate...but because all 100 stats were counting 100% across the 10 events, there ended up being a bunch of parity between the athletes, they just got to the event scores different ways. For instance...your 76 above could have been matched by someone with a low strenghth but high technique and focus on a given event, just based on how the percentages broke down. I did apply a curve to the grades...in fact, had I not done that there would have been so many C rated cards that it wouldn't have been terribly interesting. In fact, the high jump and pole vault would have been Cs for everyone.... Overall I had... 10 - As 35 - Bs 34 - Cs 29 - Ds 10 - Fs Also remember there is a randomness to the card making...just because you might have a B grade doesn't mean that the actual card was any better than a C card...just that the odds of getting a better card where higher because the pool of results that the card pulls from are typically better...but the chance to end up with the worst of the 3 outcomes in most of the rows still existed (and actually happened a few times)... Hope that explains well enough....