The Trump Presidency – 2016

[Thomkal]

White House Counsel Don McGahn has cooperated extensively with Mueller over the past nine months:


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/18/u...stigation.html

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

White House Counsel Don McGahn has cooperated extensively with Mueller over the past nine months:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/18/u...stigation.html

Apparently that's what Trump wanted all along. We shall see.

[CarterNMA]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

...his tweet storms have an extremely high probability of being 0% fact based.

...his diet has an extremely high probability of being 100% fat based.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Because he said so in his daily tweet storm from the shitter this morning while staring at Fox News? If you haven’t noticed by now, his tweet storms have an extremely high probability of being 0% fact based.

0% is being too generous

[kingfc22]

Don’t worry everyone. “Truth isn’t truth” anymore.

So we can now go back to the world being square.

[JPhillips]

Rand Paul was spotted boarding Air Force One this afternoon. He had planned on asking Trump to let all Russian lawmakers into the US, in exchange for Kremlin allowing US lawmakers into Russia. He is trying to bring Russian lawmakers to DC — including two who are banned from US

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) August 19, 2018

The whole GOP is going pro-Russia.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by CarterNMA

...his diet has an extremely high probability of being 100% fat based.

...not that there's anything wrong with that

[Thomkal]

Michael Cohen might be charged with bank fraud and other crimes by end of August:


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/19/n...ald-trump.html

[Thomkal]

Well it looked like the jury in the Manafort case were nearing the end of their deliberations today because they asked the judge to stay more than an hour longer. But alas they did not finish and will continue tomorrow morning. The jury has not asked any questions about what they are discussing since the first day or asked for any testimony to be re-read, so no clue what's going on here.

[BYU 14]

I am not even surprised at the ignorance that comes out of this idiots mouth anymore. And the irony of Trump even making the comment when he struggles daily stringing a coherent sentence together.

Trump calls on Hispanic-American immigration officer to speak, saying he 'speaks perfect English'

[cartman]

Speaking of struggling with coherent sentences:

We have — clean coal exports have increased, 60 percent last year — clean coal, which is one of our big assets that we weren’t allowed to use for our miners. You remember Hillary with the coal, right, sitting with the miners at the table? Remember? That wasn’t so good for her. So the people of West Virginia and all over, you look at Wyoming, you look at so many different places where they just, Pennsylvania, where they loved what we did, and it’s clean coal and we have the most modern procedures. But it’s a tremendous form of energy in the sense that in a military way — think of it — coal is indestructible.”

“You can blow up a pipeline, you can blow up the windmills. You know, the windmills, boom, boom, boom [mimicking windmill sound] bing [mimes shooting large gun], that’s the end of that one. If the birds don’t kill it first. The birds could kill it first. They kill so many birds. You look underneath some of those windmills, it’s like a killing field, the birds. But you know, that’s what they were going to, they were going to windmills. And you know, don’t worry about — when the wind doesn’t blow, I said, ‘What happens when the wind doesn’t blow?’ ‘Well, then we have a problem.’

“OK, good. They were putting them in areas where they didn’t have much wind, too. And it’s a subs— you need subsidy for windmills. You need subsidy. Who wants to have energy where you need subsidy? So, uh, the coal is doing great!

[Thomkal]

wow just wow

[mckerney]

BREAKING NEWS: Silent Sam is down! Protesters have toppled the controversial statue on the campus of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. #WRAL pic.twitter.com/JLOAERUI5P

— WRAL NEWS in NC (@WRAL) August 21, 2018

Millennials continue their quest to kill participation trophies.

[whomario]

In case anybody was really wondering Re:Birds killed by Wind Turbines:

https://www.fws.gov/birds/bird-enthu...s-to-birds.php

Basically they rank about as high for bird mortality as sharks do for human deaths.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by mckerney

BREAKING NEWS: Silent Sam is down! Protesters have toppled the controversial statue on the campus of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. #WRAL pic.twitter.com/JLOAERUI5P

— WRAL NEWS in NC (@WRAL) August 21, 2018

Millennials continue their quest to kill participation trophies.

I'm gonna go ahead and steal the top reddit comment on the thread about this, pointing out that this statue wasn't erected until 1913, ~50 years after the civil war ended, and here's a part of the dedication speech:

One hundred yards from where we stand, less than ninety days perhaps after my return from Appomattox, I horse-whipped a negro wench until her skirts hung in shreds, because upon the streets of this quiet village she had publicly insulted and maligned a Southern lady

The present generation, I am persuaded, scarcely takes note of what the Confederate soldier meant to the welfare of the Anglo Saxon race during the four years immediately succeeding the war, when the facts are, that their courage and steadfastness saved the very life of the Anglo Saxon race in the South – When “the bottom rail was on top” all over the Southern states, and to-day, as a consequence the purest strain of the Anglo Saxon is to be found in the 13 Southern States – Praise God.

Just to go ahead and get out in front of the "heritage" argument here.

[NobodyHere]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/polit....html?adkey=bn

Sounds like a verdict is coming soon?

[NobodyHere]

Michael Cohen, President Trump’s former longtime personal attorney, tentatively reaches a plea deal: Sources

[Thomkal]

Man the Manafort verdict and a possible Cohen flipping on the same day? Wow, Trump's Twitter will explode


Cohen may plead guilty around 4 today


Edit: It may not be a cooperation deal with Mueller.

[Thomkal]

Also a good day for Christopher Steele, the author of the now infamous Steele Dossier. A federal judge threw out a defamation lawsuit brought by three Russian oligarchs he mentioned:


Author of Trump-Russia dossier wins libel case in US court | US news | The Guardian

[Edward64]

Not sure why no requirement for cooperation. Seems as if there is alot of evidence to convict Cohen of something (non-Trump collusion related)?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/polit...lks/index.html

As part of the plea deal under discussion earlier Tuesday, Cohen was not expected to cooperate with the government, one source told CNN. However, by pleading guilty both Cohen and prosecutors would avoid the spectacle and uncertainty of a trial.

[mckerney]

@HillaryClinton when you go to prison for defrauding America and perjury, your room and board will be free!

— Michael Cohen (@MichaelCohen212) December 20, 2015

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Not sure why no requirement for cooperation. Seems as if there is alot of evidence to convict Cohen of something (non-Trump collusion related)?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/polit...lks/index.html

I'm thinking that the government got all the information they needed when they raided his office. Also how much would you really trust Cohen at this point?

Still it seems like he's pleading guilty to some pretty heavy charges. I wonder what Cohen gets out of it.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I'm thinking that the government got all the information they needed when they raided his office. Also how much would you really trust Cohen at this point?

Still it seems like he's pleading guilty to some pretty heavy charges. I wonder what Cohen gets out of it.

Michael Cohen strikes plea deal with prosecutors - POLITICO

Cohen — who spent more than a decade as an aide-de-camp to Trump and a senior official at his company, the Trump Organization — agreed to the plea “to save millions of dollars, protect his family, and limit his exposure,” the source said.

There were news stories earlier about how much money he was going through paying defense attorneys.

[Ben E Lou]

And Trump's day continues to get better...

Omarosa says she has video tapes. She's going to bring one to #Hardball tonight at 7.

— Chris Matthews (@HardballChris) August 21, 2018

[Thomkal]

Manafort guilty on eight charges, mistrial on the others

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Manafort guilty on eight charges, mistrial on the others

I'll take it.

[JPhillips]

LOCK HIM UP!

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by corbes

Plenty of valid prosecution reasons not to enter a cooperation agreement. Look for the guilty pleas to include factual statements laying out the details of the hush-money payments.

Cohen's plea deal says he did illegal stuff "at the direction of the candidate." I ain't no lawyerin' type, but I'm thinking that doesn't sound good for whatever candidate that may have directed him to do that...

[kingfc22]

LOCK HER UP

[Thomkal]

Cohen also pleads guilty on eight counts, lincluding two campaign finance crimes, involving paying off McDougal and Daniels

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Cohen's plea deal says he did illegal stuff "at the direction of the candidate." I ain't no lawyerin' type, but I'm thinking that doesn't sound good for whatever candidate that may have directed him to do that...

But who could that candidate possibly have been?

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by mckerney

But who could that candidate possibly have been?

Jill Stein's in a lot of trouble.

[Atocep]

Guilt isn't guilt.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Guilt isn't guilt.

who replaced Atocep with Rudy Guilianni?

[Ben E Lou]

The President's campaign manager, national security advisor, and personal attorney are now all convicted felons.





Let that sink in.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

The President's campaign manager, national security advisor, and personal attorney are now all convicted felons.





Let that sink in.

And the President is a (so far) unindicted co-conspirator.

[PilotMan]

I would also think, as a non cooperative deal, the prosecution has a more effective witness if there is testimony that implicates someone else, higher up. If he's cooperative, there's reasonable suspicion that he might be lying to get a better deal. I mean, that's just pure speculation, but perhaps?

[AlexB]

I think you have to give Trump a lot of credit on this one: another one of his campaign promises is being fulfilled before our eyes.

He promised to drain the swamp: he personally identified three high profile shysters, and has overseen them being brought to justice. I can only see more to come, further proving him to be a man of his word.

Another tick in the box for the world’s favourite President.

[kingfc22]

LOL at Trump’s defense: This isn’t related to “Russian collusion” so you must ignore these other crimes that have been uncovered along the way.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

The President's campaign manager, national security advisor, and personal attorney are now all convicted felons.





Let that sink in.

Jokes about “the best people” aside, imagine any CEO who has THREE of his or her hand-picked execs convicted of felonies. That person would be resigning in disgrace immediately.

[cuervo72]

But this is Trump, and his supporters won't care. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[BYU 14]

And Trump now has the perfect deflection to0 the Manafort trial in that he can rail against illegal immigrants since it has now been revealed that Molly Tibbets killer is here illegally. And he will exploit the hell out of it.

[JPhillips]

And... GOP Rep. Duncan Hunter and his wife are indicted for using campaign funds for personal expenses.

So Collins(indicted for insider trading) was the first GOP congress member to endorse Trump and Hunter was the second. Rick Wilson is right, everything Trump touches dies.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

But this is Trump, and his supporters won't care. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm pretty sure you're right.

[Thomkal]

Had to double check to make sure I was reading PC Gamer here. but apparently Rep. Hunter is a gamer-surely we can't send him to jail for spending campaign money on Steam can we?


https://www.pcgamer.com/congressman-...ffer-pcgamertw

[Thomkal]

Cohen's lawyer already on CNN and MSNBC tonight saying Cohen has a lot Mueller will want to hear.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

And Trump now has the perfect deflection to0 the Manafort trial in that he can rail against illegal immigrants since it has now been revealed that Molly Tibbets killer is here illegally. And he will exploit the hell out of it.

Which would be a great defense if no US citizen ever committed murder. I realize he'll try and latch on to that, but c'mon. It's not like all murderers are illegal immigrants, and all victims of murder are citizens.

[cartman]

No to veer too far off course, but the guy accused of killing her evidently passed the E-verify process and had worked for the past several years at a farm owned by a prominent Iowa GOP family.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

But this is Trump, and his supporters won't care. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not only will 40% of the country passionately and loudly not care, but the majority of the house and senate won't care either.

It can't be a scandal that brings down a presidency if everybody knew it was true months ago and there's literally nothing the guy could do to lose the support he has anyway.

Now if somebody can point to a realistic legal path that doesn't involve the Dems controlling both houses that ends up in Donald Trump not being president anymore, maybe this isn't the same as all those other times CNN has been beside itself with giddiness at the latest Trump scandal. I'm not holding my breath until then though.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Which would be a great defense if no US citizen ever committed murder. I realize he'll try and latch on to that, but c'mon. It's not like all murderers are illegal immigrants, and all victims of murder are citizens.

Well, according to him.....

Originally Posted by cartman

No to veer too far off course, but the guy accused of killing her evidently passed the E-verify process and had worked for the past several years at a farm owned by a prominent Iowa GOP family.

It will be interesting to see how they spin (mean ignore) that if this does come up.