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Old 10-21-2017, 04:59 PM   #901
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Amazing how quickly they and App St have diverged after making the move up.

Willie Fritz departure followed by an apparently horrible hire.

It's only been 22 months since they were winning a bowl game with an interim HC. From that to ... this.
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Old 10-21-2017, 05:01 PM   #902
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Almost have to LOL at this point I think.

UT finally scores a touchdown, their first in just over 12 quarters (last one came just before halftime vs UMass)

How, you ask?

A 97 yd pick six thrown by Bamas backup QB.
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Old 10-21-2017, 05:22 PM   #903
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Old 10-21-2017, 05:24 PM   #904
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Matt Campbell is the next hot coach. He has ISU playing really well. And that is a hard thing to do.

He will land somewhere big soon.
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Old 10-21-2017, 06:45 PM   #905
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Barkley is the best player.

Ran one for 69 yards off a direct snap.
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Old 10-21-2017, 06:56 PM   #906
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So when is Michigan going to arrive to the stadium?
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:48 PM   #907
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Barkley is the best player.

Ran one for 69 yards off a direct snap.

Not so hard when you don't get touched.
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:50 PM   #908
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I believe RU got 1/3 of their yardage total on play.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:22 PM   #909
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OK, Saquon’s just showing off now.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:25 PM   #910
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USC defense is getting mauled by the Notre Dame offense. Georgia's stock just keeps rising.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:25 PM   #911
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Once again, thankful that Ole Miss & Tennessee don't play each other this year.

Anti-matter defense of one vs anti-matter offense of the other, I have to think the universe would just end
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:30 PM   #912
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Penn State loses next week at Ohio State. Mark it down.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:30 PM   #913
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Once again, thankful that Ole Miss & Tennessee don't play each other this year.

Anti-matter defense of one vs anti-matter offense of the other, I have to think the universe would just end

One might have to watch for the pure comedy aspect of that shitshow....
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:32 PM   #914
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Penn State loses next week at Ohio State. Mark it down.

Ohio State will probably be favored by a couple points.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:35 PM   #915
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Crazy thing is, PSU can lose next week but if they win out, they’re probably in the playoff. The reverse tOSU, if you will.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:35 PM   #916
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Penn State loses next week at Ohio State. Mark it down.

Only if OSU can get to McSorley.

Barkley is an absolute stud. He is faster and stronger than most, if not all, on the field.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:40 PM   #917
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Crazy thing is, PSU can lose next week but if they win out, they’re probably in the playoff. The reverse tOSU, if you will.

Not if Ohio State or Wisconsin win out also.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:43 PM   #918
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Not if Ohio State or Wisconsin win out also.

It would be impossible to tOSU and Wisconsin to win out, the B10 Championship Game would basically be a knock out game. The committee would likely put PSU in over the loser if PSU wins out. We’ve seen this before.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:44 PM   #919
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Of course, if PSU does win, tOSU is “bye bye”.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:44 PM   #920
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One might have to watch for the pure comedy aspect of that shitshow....

I'm reminded of Ted Turner's very old line about how CNN would cover the end of the world "play Nearer My God To Thee and sign off"

That'd be apt for such a debacle.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:51 PM   #921
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I'm reminded of Ted Turner's very old line about how CNN would cover the end of the world "play Nearer My God To Thee and sign off"

That'd be apt for such a debacle.

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Old 10-21-2017, 09:52 PM   #922
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I have 8 more years of the Ferentz's tenure.

This offense is just brutal. The play calling is terrible. But sometimes it isnt. Iowa;s first 2 drives were great, but we scored 0 points.Then we went back to the same crap offensive play calls we always use.

It is boring. And barely watchable. Barely.

I think we may not win another game.

As Denny Green(RIP) would say"They are who we thought they are"

Mid level B1G team

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Old 10-21-2017, 09:56 PM   #923
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GT survives Wake for homecoming. Makes them 4-2. You know why that's big?

Tech will probably be favored in only one of the their last 5 games.
They need to beat Duke and probably UVA (is that more of a Pick 'Em matchup?) just to get to six wins.

Remember, they lost a game to hurricane cancellation earlier this year.
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:06 PM   #924
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:10 PM   #925
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It would be impossible to tOSU and Wisconsin to win out, the B10 Championship Game would basically be a knock out game. The committee would likely put PSU in over the loser if PSU wins out. We’ve seen this before.

Big Ten isn't getting two teams in.

Also, I said OR because I realize they can't both win out.
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:13 PM   #926
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So, committee would put in a one loss Penn State team over a one loss Ohio State team when Ohio State won head to head AND won the conference, in this hypothetical?

Mmmkay.

Also, I said OR because I realize they can't both win out.

One loss Ohio State is in EASILY over one loss Penn St. Ohio State is doing better in most computer rankings than Penn St at the moment despite the loss.
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:16 PM   #927
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:23 PM   #928
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One loss Ohio State is in EASILY over one loss Penn St. Ohio State is doing better in most computer rankings than Penn St at the moment despite the loss.

Yes, I misread his post. He said Penn State would be in over Big Ten championship game loser, which I agree with, except that the B1G isn't getting two teams in.
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Louisiana Tech just tried a 64 yard FG to win at end of regulation, and it was about 1 yard short.
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Yes, I misread his post. He said Penn State would be in over Big Ten championship game loser, which I agree with, except that the B1G isn't getting two teams in.

Hypothetically, if tOSU beats PSU, and Alabama, Georgia, PSU, tOSU and Wisconsin wins out, I think you do see a PSU team get in over one of the two teams who lose their conference championship. The B10 still has a very strong rep, particularly if Michigan finishes the season strong. Pac-10 and ACC are down, and if TCU drops one, I can see two SEC and two B10 teams in (especially if Notre Dame lays an egg somewhere.)
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Louisiana Tech just tried a 64 yard FG to win at end of regulation, and it was about 1 yard short.

Louisiana Tech and Southern Miss trade interceptions in the first OT. Wonder how many times that has ever happened.
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Old 10-22-2017, 12:30 AM   #932
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Old 10-22-2017, 12:51 AM   #933
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Shout out to Rutgers with back to back B1G wins for the first time. Their next games are a gauntlet of probably losses, though they could beat IU here in Bloomington.

Wyoming loses to Boise State, but should still end up in some low level bowl when the dust settles.
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:25 AM   #934
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Hypothetically, if tOSU beats PSU, and Alabama, Georgia, PSU, tOSU and Wisconsin wins out, I think you do see a PSU team get in over one of the two teams who lose their conference championship. The B10 still has a very strong rep, particularly if Michigan finishes the season strong. Pac-10 and ACC are down, and if TCU drops one, I can see two SEC and two B10 teams in (especially if Notre Dame lays an egg somewhere.)

How can anyone justify two Big 10 teams when the conference is clearly not very good this year? Has everyone already forgotten that Oklahoma curb stomped tOSU in their own place? The biggest OOC win for the Big Ten might be the Maryland upset over Texas or Iowa barely beating Iowa St (which I doubt they would do with the new ISU Qb playing). Unless State Penn or Wisconsin win out, I think you can legitimately question if one team gets in.

Bama-Georgia go undefeated and the SEC title game is close. TCU makes it through undefeated. Notre Dame doesn't lose another game. Wisonconsin/PSU each lose 1. That's an easy scenario for the Big 10 being left out and it doesn't even include Clemson winning out the rest of the way.

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Old 10-22-2017, 08:45 AM   #935
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GT survives Wake for homecoming. Makes them 4-2. You know why that's big?

Tech will probably be favored in only one of the their last 5 games.
They need to beat Duke and probably UVA (is that more of a Pick 'Em matchup?) just to get to six wins.

Remember, they lost a game to hurricane cancellation earlier this year.

GT will be a 5-7 point favorite at UVA. Va Tech at home is probably the closest thing to a pick em match up of any that are left. Weirdly, GT is 6-0 ATS so far.
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:50 AM   #936
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:56 AM   #937
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How can anyone justify two Big 10 teams when the conference is clearly not very good this year? Has everyone already forgotten that Oklahoma curb stomped tOSU in their own place? The biggest OOC win for the Big Ten might be the Maryland upset over Texas or Iowa barely beating Iowa St (which I doubt they would do with the new ISU Qb playing). Unless State Penn or Wisconsin win out, I think you can legitimately question if one team gets in.

Bama-Georgia go undefeated and the SEC title game is close. TCU makes it through undefeated. Notre Dame doesn't lose another game. Wisonconsin/PSU each lose 1. That's an easy scenario for the Big 10 being left out and it doesn't even include Clemson winning out the rest of the way.

You’re forgetting that there’s a very strong recency bias. If tOSU and Oklahoma both win out, I bet tOSU would be ranked higher than Oklahoma because the latter’s loss is “worse” than tOSU’s loss to OK, and the OK-tOSU game will have generally lessened in impact because of how far back it was.
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:59 AM   #938
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Shout out to Rutgers with back to back B1G wins for the first time. Their next games are a gauntlet of probably losses, though they could beat IU here in Bloomington.

Wyoming loses to Boise State, but should still end up in some low level bowl when the dust settles.

RU has Maryland in 2 weeks in Piscataway. That ones winnable too. I think
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Old 10-22-2017, 11:03 AM   #939
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Bama-Georgia go undefeated and the SEC title game is close. TCU makes it through undefeated. Notre Dame doesn't lose another game. Wisonconsin/PSU each lose 1. That's an easy scenario for the Big 10 being left out and it doesn't even include Clemson winning out the rest of the way.

The most likely way for that to happen is OSU wins out. If that happens there's no way they aren't in the playoff.
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The most likely way for that to happen is OSU wins out. If that happens there's no way they aren't in the playoff.

Why? Even in that scenario they beat PSU and Wisconsin, neither of whom has beaten anybody good out of conference. Neither Michigan school is anything great this year. Iowa is mediocre. The only big game that OSU played out of conference they lost by 15.

I'm just looking for something that even hints at the Big 10 being good this year beyond preseason rankings. Right now I'd have to go SEC (solely due to Bama and Georgia), Big 12, ACC, Big 10, Pac 12/AAC. I honestly would take USF and UCF over the top of the Pac 12 right now.
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A B1G team will always be in the playoffs unless they have more than one loss. Delaney holds the process by the balls.
Remember who had to agree to a playoff for it to happen? Yeah, this conference.
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Old 10-22-2017, 12:40 PM   #942
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What tarcone says.

Also, regardless of how good OSU is, if they win out they'll have likely beaten two top five teams. If any one loss team gets in it will be OSU.
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Old 10-22-2017, 12:54 PM   #943
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A B1G team will always be in the playoffs unless they have more than one loss. Delaney holds the process by the balls.
Remember who had to agree to a playoff for it to happen? Yeah, this conference.

Only with the PAC-12s blessing, mind you. We just eat our own
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Old 10-22-2017, 01:24 PM   #944
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What tarcone says.

Also, regardless of how good OSU is, if they win out they'll have likely beaten two top five teams. If any one loss team gets in it will be OSU.

Top 5 according to what? Who have those top 5 teams beaten to be ranked that high?
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BTW, I hadn't noticed it until this week, but Jeff Tedford is on pace to take Fresno St from 1-11 to undefeated (in MW play) conference champion in his first year there.
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Top 5 according to what? Who have those top 5 teams beaten to be ranked that high?

Are you purposefully being obtuse?

PSU is currently 2 in the AP and Coaches.

Wiscy is currently 5 and the above scenario probably demands that they win out to be in the championship game.
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Old 10-22-2017, 03:09 PM   #947
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Funnier -- or sadder -- still is that the headline currently says "Georgia State" rather than "Georgia Southern"
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Old 10-22-2017, 03:25 PM   #948
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Are you purposefully being obtuse?

PSU is currently 2 in the AP and Coaches.

Wiscy is currently 5 and the above scenario probably demands that they win out to be in the championship game.

Are you purposely being obtuse? Who the %*&## cares where they're ranked, who have they actually beat? I think PSU is a really good team, but Wisconsin hasn't played anybody with a pulse and still played close games against Northwestern and Purdue. You could make a legitimate case that they'll lose 3 of their last 4. Are we really supposed to believe they're a top 5 team because they beat Utah St, FAU, and 1-7 BYU whose only win was Portland St?

If PSU runs the table it seems pretty obvious they get in. If they lose and OSU comes through the Big 10, then they should need help to make the playoff. An undefeated TCU has to go in ahead of them. The SEC winner has to go in ahead of them. If Notre Dame wins out they have to go ahead of OSU since that would add road wins at Miami and Stanford. If the SEC title game is Bama vs Georgia with both undefeated, and it's a close game, there's a legit argument for the loser ahead of OSU.
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Old 10-22-2017, 03:29 PM   #949
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Georgia Southern coach Tyson Summers reportedly fired after 0-6 start - CBSSports.com

Funnier -- or sadder -- still is that the headline currently says "Georgia State" rather than "Georgia Southern"

Next on the list of coaches who have ruined a solid lower conference program and should be fired: Mike Jinks at Bowling Green. He's followed 4 straight bowl games by Dave Clawson and Dino Babers with 4-8 last year and a 1-7 start this year.
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Who the %*&## cares where they're ranked, .

The people who actually decide who goes to the playoff. There's no way that an undefeated PSU, an undefeated Wiscy or a one loss OSU doesn't end up going to the playoff.
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