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Old 05-09-2014, 10:12 PM   #1
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Threes A Crowd: The Southern Kentucky Saddlebreds (1992-2012) (FBCB)

Okay, so this the sequel to this dynasty so I'm keeping the same universe with HS and college in FBCB and the pro league in FBPB but I'm focusing on the college league now.

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What we'll do in the sequel is taking over a college program, we're only going to recruit guys who are 3-star or lower with an exemption to carry a blue chip (4 or 5) guy if we can ever get one at a time...

I'm really curious to see how far a team with mid-level talent can do in the game over a fixed period of time. If I'm feeling ambitious, then we'll go ahead and tinker with coaching strategies, but in general this will be a high level dynasty where I set things up for the year and let it go, besides doing recruiting for the team. I'll only post the season results, maybe the report the game generates with stats and mention how the team did in the post-season if it gets there.

The HS dynasty will continue to give me talent and I'll probably populate the game with more 3-star recruits as a result to keep it interesting for me, but we won't be paying as much attention to the high school game besides taking recruits from there for the time being.

The pro game will also be there and I'll eventually follow careers of guys, but it's possible I run a bunch of college seasons before I go back to the pros again.

I'm going to take over fictional Southern Kentucky University in Burkesville, KY. SKU is moving up to D1 and are playing in the Sun Belt conference. We're starting in the 1992-93 season. Their mascot is the Saddlebreds, named after the only native horse breed to Kentucky. Only Murray State uses a horse nickname (Racers) for their teams, all of the teams in the state despite the horse heritage of the state don't use horse-based nicknames and so, SKU's doing so is kind of neat.

Their rivals are fictional programs Central Kentucky & Kentucky A&T. I'm going to create a regular season tournament for four teams so CKU, SKU, KA&T and one of the other four-year programs in Kentucky to have them play each other and it'll be hosted by SKU. If nothing else, it ensures we'll get to see some of the state's other teams.

To figure out SKU's initial prestige, I took the mean of the teams in the conference excluding them and came up with 45 and then subtracted 11 to make sure they're the lowest in the conference since the lowest was 35. So they'll start at 34 (out of 100).


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Old 05-09-2014, 10:20 PM   #2
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The first year team will be all walkons, so it'll be terrible. I'm going to force them all to the draft at the end of the season, so I have 12 scholarships to work with from the start. There were previously no transfers, but I've turned them on starting now and players don't have to sit out a year before playing on their new team.

Players can leave for the NBA after one year in college, like real life too.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:40 PM   #3
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The first head coach in SKU history is Bob Smith, a 61-year years young assistant from UConn. His only head coaching experience came at Stephen F. Austin. He has a career record of 51-69, but let's consider that 1) this is Southern Kentucky 2) most of the other candidates were too young for an upstart program and 3) Smith was a late starter who cut his teeth as an assistant at Louisville, which is what sold me on him for this job.

He's not going to be a very good gameday coach and he's no longer term solution, but he was looking for a head coaching job to retire, wanted to get back to Kentucky and we wanted someone who would start the program off right, was familiar with the state and understands how major college basketball works since it's where we'd like to be someday.

So there you go.

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COACH DETAILS Robert Smith - Head Coach - Southern Kentucky -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Age: 61 High School: Minster High School Hometown: Minster, OH Alma Mater: Liberty Current Level: 4 Career Record: 51 - 69 Recruiting: B- Scouting: A+ Offense: F- Defense: F+ Coaching History: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Team Position W L CW CL Postseason -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1991 Connecticut Assistant 24 9 11 7 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1990 Connecticut Assistant 24 10 12 6 Loss in NCAA Round of 32 1989 Stephen F. Austin Head Coach 8 21 5 15 No Postseason 1988 Stephen F. Austin Head Coach 12 17 9 11 No Postseason 1987 Stephen F. Austin Head Coach 14 15 6 14 No Postseason 1986 Stephen F. Austin Head Coach 17 16 12 8 Loss in CIT Round 1 1985 Louisville Assistant 28 10 12 6 Loss in NCAA Final Four 1984 Louisville Assistant 31 5 16 2 Loss in NCAA Sweet Sixteen 1983 Louisville Assistant 23 10 13 5 Loss in NCAA Round of 32 1982 Louisville Assistant 18 14 10 8 No Postseason 1981 Louisville Assistant 21 13 10 8 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1980 Louisville Assistant 18 13 9 9 No Postseason Awards & Achievements: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Award -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No awards won. Job Movement: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Move -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1992 Hired by Southern Kentucky (Head Coach) 1992 Quit job with Connecticut 1990 Hired by Connecticut (Lead Scout) 1990 Fired by Stephen F. Austin 1986 Hired by Stephen F. Austin (Head Coach) 1986 Quit job with Duke to pursue a higher position 1986 Moved with head coach from Louisville to Duke 1980 Hired by Louisville (Lead Scout)

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Old 05-10-2014, 09:13 AM   #4
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For clerical purposes (aka, so I don't forget)

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Old 05-10-2014, 06:52 PM   #5
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1992-93 SEASON RESULTS

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Old 05-11-2014, 02:59 PM   #6
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I was taking too much time to sim and honestly, I really just wanted to run this experiment with one mission in mind and one mission only. I want to know how far a team of three star or lower players can do with all other things being equal in the game. They can have one blue chip guy or not, but ultimately, curious to see how well they can do and how far they can get.

I was getting bogged down in the details though, doing this really just helps me better understand how to recruit for online leagues in-game and so forth. So rather than just trying to do it organically, I've decided to just let the game sim each season and at the end of the year, I go into Southern Kentucky's recruiting class and then change them to be guys from the high school dynasty.

It obviously borks their true high school rating, but thousands of HS guys each year go under or unrecruited and manage to turn into solid college dudes or pros. Our batch of dudes will simply go under that banner even though we (in theory) know they might be better than the guy I'm replacing them with.

I don't have a formula for this. I think initially, we'll limit the team to:

1 blue-chip player (4 or 5 star recruit)
3 blue collar recruits (3 star)

and then the rest can be 2 and 1 star guys. In past tests, I've already identified that good coaching helps a lot and so, we'll have to ensure the team has that in order for this to work (think Shaka Smart/Brad Stevens/Boheim over say, someone not those guys..) but that's perfectly okay.

Based on the results over the next few years, we'll make adjustments. We won't ever let the program get so good that they're able to bring in guys who are elite all the time, because that'd defeat the purpose though if they get too good for the Sun Belt we can look for an upgrade in conference.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:11 PM   #7
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After Bob Smith retired, So. Kentucky hired away Kentucky native Alonzo Jones from Cal State Fullerton to be their new Head Coach. He had immediate dividends in his home state leading the Saddlebreds to a 19-14 record in their 2nd season in D1 and an appearance in the NIT. He'll be hired away this off-season by another program, making the school pick its third head coach in three years, but the name we're bringing in will be familiar if you followed the other dynasty.

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Old 05-11-2014, 04:25 PM   #8
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FORMER MURRAY STAR BRIAN PACE TO COACH SOUTHERN KENTUCKY
After paying his dues in the high school ranks for the past four years, Brian Pace, who spent four years at Murray State before eschewing a pro career overseas, has accepted the head coaching job at Southern Kentucky.

Pace, 29, spent three years at the Van Blake School in Stovall County before spending last season at George Rogers Clark HS. His teams made the Elite 8 in each of the past two years and lost in the Regional Final the two previous years. His career record in HS was 115-18 and Southern Kentucky administration couldn't be happier about bringing this in-state native to coach their college team.

"Coaching is coaching, ultimately," said Tad Giltner, athletic director at Southern Kentucky. "We think Brian is the kind of guy players will be able to relate to, parents will trust and can elevate our program to the next level. We're excited for him to start."
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Old 05-12-2014, 12:11 AM   #9
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Old 05-12-2014, 06:32 PM   #10
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What I haven't been doing is keeping track of how many collective stars our teams have on them at the end of each year (Re: recruit stars) because that's the real point of the exercise in the first place. It might also be interesting to see what the stars of the Final Four for that year are, especially after noticing last year that Belmont put a team in the Final Four with no blue chip recruits (All 3 star or lower) so it's clearly possible to do it, what I'm wanting to see how sustainable it is over a long period of time.

Like does a real life mid-major team have a shot, in-game, of managing to be a perennial contender despite not being able to attract blue chip talent like more heeled competitors? I'm more interested in that than anything.

I've created a separate save, because I'd actually like to go back to this point at some point for other experiments and I think if I know I won't lose this particular setup where I am now, then I can sim faster and just focus on 1) getting results and focus less on 2) adding players to the dynasty which I don't want to do right now save for maybe changing the names of the Kentucky generated pool and maybe adding a few more Kentucky players to the pool when it's thin, since I do want these teams to be more homegrown.
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:28 PM   #11
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I deliberately put them in the Atlantic Sun, as I saw it as a chance for the program to grow and make tournaments. Plus I don't envision this school as a football school.

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Old 05-12-2014, 07:39 PM   #12
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:40 PM   #13
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I'm going to attempt to sim faster and just give the relevant information -- team roster, end of the year stats and maybe the schedule. It'll be stat dumpy, but the real goal here is to see after 20 years where a team ends up that started from scratch and recruits nothing but 3-star and below talent with one occasional blue chip allowance.
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:40 PM   #14
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1996-97: With a few conference shifts that have occurred (conference prestige fluctuation is on...) it made sense to look for a new home for the program after the Final Four year. The Missouri Valley Conference was at nine teams and represented a pretty big step up in weight class prestigewise with programs ranging from 39 to 70 in prestige. SKU is now at 50 after the Final Four run, putting them on the lower end of the scale in this league, meaning it should be a good home for a while.

Plus, what's nice about this move is getting out of a league with a Kentucky team so it makes it easier to recruit the South without interference by playing in a midwestern league, with programs that probably fit the profile of SKU better than the schools in the Atlantic Sun.

Barring something crazy, the team will remain the MVC for the next 16 seasons, as I think it's the best fit in terms of cultivating rivalries and playing with teams that don't play football too like Wichita State.
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:44 PM   #17
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So as everyone expected, Brian Pace left Southern Kentucky after four years with a record of 95-40, three NCAA appearances and a Final Four under his belt to take the job at Texas A&M.

So who will replace him? I went searching for a Kentucky native coach without having to create one in-game and ran across 56-year old Clint Sistrunk.

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COACH DETAILS Clint Sistrunk - Head Coach - Southern Kentucky -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Age: 56 High School: Johnson Central High School Hometown: Paintsville, KY Alma Mater: Boston College Current Level: 12 Career Record: 407 - 194 Recruiting: 97 Scouting: 100 Offense: 100 Defense: 43 Coaching History: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Team Position W L CW CL Postseason -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1997 UCLA Head Coach 15 17 5 13 No Postseason 1996 UCLA Head Coach 22 10 12 6 Loss in NCAA Round of 32 1995 UCLA Head Coach 16 16 7 11 No Postseason 1994 UCLA Head Coach 17 14 10 8 No Postseason 1993 UCLA Head Coach 15 17 7 11 No Postseason 1992 UCLA Head Coach 22 11 12 6 Loss in NCAA Round of 32 1991 UCLA Head Coach 16 15 7 11 No Postseason 1990 UCLA Head Coach 22 10 11 7 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1989 UCLA Head Coach 24 10 11 7 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1988 UCLA Head Coach 22 11 11 7 Loss in NCAA Round of 32 1987 UCLA Head Coach 31 7 13 5 Loss in NCAA Elite Eight 1986 UCLA Head Coach 28 6 14 4 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1985 UCLA Head Coach 26 11 11 7 Loss in NCAA Elite Eight 1984 UCLA Head Coach 22 10 11 7 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1983 UCLA Head Coach 29 8 16 2 Loss in NCAA Final Four 1982 UCLA Head Coach 33 3 16 2 Loss in NCAA Round of 32 1981 UCLA Head Coach 26 7 15 3 Loss in NCAA Sweet Sixteen 1980 UCLA Head Coach 21 11 10 8 Loss in FBCA Round 1 Awards & Achievements: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Award -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1983 Conference Coach of the Year (Pacific-12 Conference) 1983 Pacific-12 Conference Champion 1982 Conference Coach of the Year (Pacific-12 Conference) 1982 National Coach of the Year 1982 Pacific-12 Conference Champion Job Movement: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Move -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1998 Hired by Southern Kentucky (Head Coach) 1998 Quit job with UCLA 1980 Hired by UCLA (Head Coach)

UCLA's prestige in-game isn't as high as you think (it was in the 60s) so him coming home to Kentucky isn't that weird, especially to an upstart program after being forced to resign at UCLA for missing the tournament in 6 of the last 8 years. He only had one Final Four in all that time and it's UCLA we're talking about here.

So anyway, I thought he was a great fit for our program and the sort of guy that we could bring in after Brian Pace and not have fans howling quite as much.

How do you think we did?
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Old 05-14-2014, 02:33 PM   #20
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So the decision to sit Edie a year will hopefully pay dividends as the only starters we lose this year are Shon Boyd

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PLAYER DETAILS #32 SG Shon Boyd - Southern Kentucky - Senior -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Height: 6-5 Weight: 231 High School: Williamstown High School Hometown: Williamstown, KY Attributes: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Type INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK QKN STR JMP STA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current: 49 52 65 0 5 20 58 50 59 59 11 35 90 91 87 100 1998: 43 45 59 0 5 19 57 50 57 54 11 33 89 90 87 100 1997: 38 39 55 0 5 18 54 50 55 50 11 31 89 89 87 100 1996: 34 34 51 0 5 17 51 50 53 46 11 29 88 87 87 100 1995: 30 29 47 0 5 16 48 50 52 42 11 28 88 85 87 100 1994: 22 21 41 0 3 14 44 50 50 36 11 26 87 81 87 100 Potential: B A B F F D C D C B F C Health: Good Scholarship: Yes Status: Active Roster Academics: 100 Stat Averages: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season G GS MIN PTS ORE REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1996 21 0 2.5 0.8 0.4 1.1 0.0 0.3 0.17 0.1 0.0 0.1 1997 24 0 4.3 1.8 0.5 1.7 0.2 0.3 0.63 0.2 0.0 0.3 1998 31 0 9.3 3.2 0.8 2.2 0.6 0.9 0.62 0.1 0.1 0.7 1999 33 33 28.5 12.2 3.3 7.9 2.8 1.7 1.63 0.8 0.1 2.3 Career 109 33 12.7 5.1 1.4 3.6 1.1 0.9 1.63 0.3 0.1 1.0 Shooting Averages: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season FGM FGA FG% FTM FTA FT% 3PM 3PA 3P% PPS +/- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1996 0.2 0.8 .250 0.4 0.5 .800 0.0 0.0 .000 1.00 -1.14 1997 0.9 2.0 .447 0.1 0.2 .500 0.0 0.1 .000 0.94 -0.46 1998 1.3 2.7 .459 0.7 1.0 .677 0.0 0.2 .200 1.18 -0.77 1999 5.2 11.1 .474 1.7 2.3 .733 0.0 0.1 .000 1.10 10.97 Career 2.2 4.7 .462 0.8 1.1 .717 0.0 0.1 .100 1.09 2.78 Stat Totals: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season G GS MIN PTS OREB REB AST TO STL BLK PF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1996 21 0 53 16 8 23 1 6 2 1 3 1997 24 0 104 44 11 40 5 8 4 1 6 1998 31 0 289 100 25 68 18 29 2 3 21 1999 33 33 940 401 109 262 93 57 26 3 76 Career 109 33 1386 561 153 393 117 100 34 8 106 Shooting Totals -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season FGM FGA FTM FTA 3PM 3PA +/- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1996 4 16 8 10 0 0 -24 1997 21 47 2 4 0 3 -11 1998 39 85 21 31 1 5 -24 1999 173 365 55 75 0 2 362 Career 237 513 86 120 1 10 303 Career Highs: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Type Pts OReb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO FGM FGA FTM FTA 3PM 3PA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season 26 8 14 6 2 1 6 13 22 8 11 0 1 Career 26 8 14 6 2 1 6 13 22 8 11 1 2 Awards & Acheivements: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Award -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All Player of the Game: 5 1994 High School: Rated *** and #1095 overall by the FBCB scouting service.

-- who was one of my favorite players and I wish they'd used him earlier and more -- and PG Cazzie Tidwell, who for a two-star guy was surprisingly useful. He was at three-year started and average 12.8 PPG over his time at SKU, he just wasn't much of a ball distributor (2.3 APG) and so, I didn't think he was as good a fit for our system.

But we're bringing back 1st team all-conference center Reg McLendon, Derick Edie and six of the best recruits in school history. There's going to be a huge target on this team next year and the expectations will be high, really for the first time ever.

Will they able to hold up to the scrutiny?

First, here's the teams that have made the Final Four since this dynasty began in 1980.
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Stats Leaders # Team Apps W L Pct Sweet 16 Elite 8 F4 Champs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Memphis 18 48 17 .738 12 10 6 1 2 Tennessee 19 51 15 .773 10 8 6 4 3 Duke 16 39 16 .709 10 6 5 0 4 Florida 18 42 18 .700 12 8 5 0 5 Creighton 13 27 12 .692 7 5 4 1 6 Louisville 13 24 13 .649 6 3 3 0 7 Villanova 15 24 14 .632 5 4 3 1 8 Kansas State 16 39 15 .722 11 6 3 1 9 Michigan 16 35 14 .714 8 6 3 2 10 Georgetown 19 38 19 .667 11 4 3 0 11 Notre Dame 20 50 19 .725 15 9 3 1 12 Arizona 9 14 9 .609 4 2 2 0 13 Colorado 13 26 12 .684 7 4 2 1 14 Wisconsin 13 20 13 .606 6 4 2 0 15 Gonzaga 16 27 16 .628 6 4 2 0 16 Ohio State 16 32 16 .667 10 6 2 0 17 Oklahoma State 16 27 15 .643 6 4 2 1 18 Texas 19 29 18 .617 7 4 2 1 19 Florida State 4 8 3 .727 1 1 1 1 20 Southern Kentucky 4 5 4 .556 1 1 1 0 21 Central Florida 5 8 5 .615 1 1 1 0 22 South Carolina 5 8 5 .615 1 1 1 0 23 Missouri 6 7 6 .538 2 1 1 0 24 Northwestern 6 7 6 .538 1 1 1 0 25 Belmont 7 7 7 .500 2 1 1 0 26 North Carolina State 7 12 6 .667 1 1 1 1 27 Stanford 8 11 8 .579 2 1 1 0 28 San Diego State 9 16 8 .667 4 1 1 1 29 Illinois 10 9 10 .474 2 1 1 0 30 Princeton 10 10 10 .500 2 1 1 0 31 Boston College 11 10 11 .476 2 1 1 0 32 West Virginia 11 16 11 .593 3 1 1 0 33 Kentucky 12 23 11 .676 8 3 1 1 34 UCLA 13 16 13 .552 4 3 1 0 35 UNLV 13 18 12 .600 5 2 1 1 36 Southern California 14 11 14 .440 2 1 1 0 37 Maryland 16 26 16 .619 8 4 1 0 38 Oregon 16 19 16 .543 5 3 1 0 39 Pittsburgh 16 19 16 .543 4 2 1 0 # Team Apps W L Pct Sweet 16 Elite 8 F4 Champs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 40 Connecticut 18 31 17 .646 8 4 1 1
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Old 05-14-2014, 03:11 PM   #21
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COACH SISTRUNK LEAVES
Wasn't planning on this happening, but..it's happened. National Coach of the Year Clint Sistrunk has left Southern Kentucky University is heading to La Salle, to coach a program that's two years removed from an Elite 8 appearance and bringing back a core group of guys who they think can make it to the Final Four.

La Salle's prestige is 81. They were able to double his total compensation to nearly $1.3 million from the $655,548 he was making with us at SKU. But at least he didn't leave the cupboard bare.

My favorite for the job is 34-year old Shon Dobbs who has been an assistant with the program since 1995 and can provide continuity between administrations since he's been a coach here since the Brian Pace years and was a favorite to get the job last time when we gave it to Sistrunk.

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COACH DETAILS Shon Dobbs - Coaching Assistant - Southern Kentucky -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Age: 34 High School: Greenfield High School Hometown: Greenfield, WI Alma Mater: Cal State Fullerton Current Level: 6 Career Record: 0 - 0 Salary: $30,001 Recruiting: 35 Scouting: 5 Offense: 85 Defense: 97 Coaching History: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Team Position W L CW CL Postseason -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1999 Southern Kentucky Assistant 27 6 14 2 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1998 Southern Kentucky Assistant 16 15 9 7 Loss in CIT Round 1 1997 Southern Kentucky Assistant 13 18 6 10 No Postseason 1996 Southern Kentucky Assistant 25 7 12 4 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1995 Southern Kentucky Assistant 29 8 14 4 Loss in NCAA Final Four 1994 Lehigh Assistant 12 19 8 10 No Postseason Awards & Achievements: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Award -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No awards won. Job Movement: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Move -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1995 Hired by Southern Kentucky (Assistant Coach) 1995 Staff fired by Lehigh 1994 Hired by Lehigh (Assistant Coach)
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Old 05-14-2014, 06:33 PM   #23
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The whole "going young" movement should possibly pay dividends the next few years. We're going to only have one senior this upcoming season (2001-02) and so, after a Sweet 16 run and another Top 30 recruiting class (#28 this year) to go with last year's haul, one has to expect big things from the Saddlebreds this season.

Unfortunately, we lose Shon Dobbs, who after the Sweet 16 run is wooed by Georgetown. He'd been on our staff for five years prior and he was waiting for a really good job and well, managed to land one as the "hot young assistant" on the market.

This leaves us without a head coach again for the 2nd straight year. Tough being a bridesmaid.
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:02 PM   #24
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Guess who we brought back to coach again?

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COACH DETAILS Brian Pace - Head Coach - Southern Kentucky -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Age: 36 High School: Apollo High School Hometown: Owensboro, KY Alma Mater: Murray State Current Level: 10 Career Record: 131 - 97 Coaching History: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Team Position W L CW CL Postseason -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2000 Murray State Head Coach 13 17 9 9 No Postseason 1999 Texas A&M Head Coach 11 21 4 14 No Postseason 1998 Texas A&M Head Coach 12 19 8 10 No Postseason 1997 Southern Kentucky Head Coach 13 18 6 10 No Postseason 1996 Southern Kentucky Head Coach 25 7 12 4 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1995 Southern Kentucky Head Coach 29 8 14 4 Loss in NCAA Final Four 1994 Southern Kentucky Head Coach 28 7 15 3 Loss in NCAA Round of 32 Awards & Achievements: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Award -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1996 Conference Coach of the Year (Missouri Valley Conference) 1996 Missouri Valley Conference Champion 1995 Conference Coach of the Year (Atlantic Sun Conference) 1995 Atlantic Sun Conference Champion 1994 Conference Coach of the Year (Atlantic Sun Conference) Job Movement: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Move -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2001 Hired by Southern Kentucky (Head Coach) 2001 Quit job with Murray State 2000 Hired by Murray State (Head Coach) 2000 Quit job with Texas A&M 1998 Hired by Texas A&M (Head Coach) 1998 Quit job with Southern Kentucky 1994 Hired by Southern Kentucky (Head Coach)

After three lackluster years away, he realized how good he had it and honestly, looking at the field of candidates there weren't any people that we felt super strongly about. No one wanted Pace to leave when he did and so, when his name came up in the discussions, we reached out cautiously and he was surprised, but appreciated of the chance to "right a wrong" as he put it and to "bring a championship here, like we wanted to the first time."

Pace is still the program's winningest coach and took us to a Final Four, so...not easy to find that on the street. Hopefully this time, it'll last. This is our 10th season, so not a whole lot more seasons left, but prestige is almost double what it was when we started.
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NCAA Champs Season Team Record Opponent Score -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2001 West Virginia Mountaineers 36-3 Southern California Trojans 104-74 2000 Oklahoma State Cowboys 30-7 West Virginia Mountaineers 90-73 1999 Tennessee Volunteers 35-3 Georgetown Hoyas 90-81 1998 Tennessee Volunteers 31-5 West Virginia Mountaineers 89-80 1997 Connecticut Huskies 32-5 Louisville Cardinals 76-65 1996 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 36-3 Louisville Cardinals 88-82 1995 Villanova Wildcats 32-6 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 102-88 1994 Tennessee Volunteers 33-5 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 98-78 1993 Michigan Wolverines 37-3 Duke Blue Devils 88-84 1992 Kentucky Wildcats 28-11 Ohio State Buckeyes 74-71 1991 North Carolina State Wolfpack 29-9 Florida Gators 79-57 1990 Kansas State Wildcats 34-4 South Carolina Gamecocks 115-108 1989 Michigan Wolverines 27-11 Kansas State Wildcats 88-77 1988 Memphis Tigers 37-2 Duke Blue Devils 83-67 1987 Tennessee Volunteers 35-3 Gonzaga Bulldogs 88-86 1986 UNLV Rebels 29-10 Villanova Wildcats 70-59 1985 Florida State Seminoles 31-7 Duke Blue Devils 80-63 1984 Colorado Buffaloes 26-10 Duke Blue Devils 69-61 1983 Creighton Bluejays 33-5 Oregon Ducks 87-59 1982 Texas Longhorns 32-5 Florida Gators 88-82 1981 Oklahoma State Cowboys 31-7 Kansas State Wildcats 81-68 1980 San Diego State Aztecs 35-5 Tennessee Volunteers 69-68
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Only two seniors this year, but it's likely that Dontrelle Ivy and/or Romelo Holiday will declare early for the NBA draft after this year.

It's becoming readily apparent that you're not going to win a title or even be a steady contender in this game when you're only consistently attracting 3-star talent without being 1) in a bad conference where you can dominant and 2) have really good coaching.

If you don't do that -- also scouting is mission critical -- investing in the best scout you can find is really the way to make the game work for you, because without it, you can whiff on guys and with a good scout, it's possible for find low-level gems who can get it done for you.

But perish the thought of thinking you can turn Gonzaga into the next perennial title contender by just keeping it business as usual, because it won't work. You have to either spend a lot of time scouring for talent with you good scout in tow and hope to get fortunate, uncover a talent pipeline or exist in one natively (say, like Florida) and then have coaching that can get the most out of your guys.

Jock Childress and Buddy Doran, two of our past recruits have transferred. Childress left for in-conference program Wichita State. Doran left us for Minnesota.

Oh well.

We did score a 3-star Kentucky native who originally went to Western Carolina before transferring, his name is Vinny Starks and he'll be a perfect replacement for Reg McLendon if all goes well. So he's right on time (and this was all on the AI, as I had no hand in this recruiting, which makes it even better!)


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Highest scoring team in the nation this year, which owes to my offensive system, but we give up almost as many point as we score, hence the issue.

Brian Pace fooled us again. He was offered the Memphis head coaching job and took it. We're done with him and his shapeshifting ways. Too bad, we had high hopes.

We hired assistant Bernie Boyd, who we brought in last year as an assistant after he was fired at Syracuse, he has a career record of 312-260 and has had head coaching gigs at BYU, Miami (OH) and Central Kentucky. He took BYU to an Elite 8 and was an assistant with Villanova when they lost a national championship game.

At 47, hoping he can give us some long needed stability at head coach, since Boyd will be our 4th head coach in four years (Sistrunk, Dobbs, Pace) Speaking of, Clint Sistrunk left his job at La Salle to join Michigan State after just two years and Shon Dobbs left Georgetown after just a year to become the new head man at Texas.


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A really uneven regular season where this team never knew what it wanted to be.

BEST WINS: Auburn, Memphis
WORST LOSSES: Missouri State, Bradley

Then we hit the conference tournament and decided to play like gangbusters knocking off all comers to earn the MVC tournament title and a berth in the big dance at 21-14.

Wouldn't shock me if we ended up in a play-in game, though we do have a high enough RPI to warrant inclusion in the regular bracket. I guess we'll see.

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12 SEED, WEST REGION
So we'll be taking on 5th seed Texas Tech in the 1st round. If we win? We are likely to end up with a date with in-state club Louisville. No real rivarly there, as we don't play them very much for whatever reason, usually choosing to focus on the other teams in the state. In fact, I just looked at the records and in the 11 seasons that we've been a D1 program at SKU, we've only play Louisville once ever and we lost.

But first, we have to play Texas Tech. This team you never know what they'll do on the court from night to night.

The nice thing about this year's underachieving is I shouldn't lose any of my star players to the NBA early, meaning that with any recruits I bring in, we should be able to be really deep next year.

I ran through this the first time, but was tinkering with deleting the WAC during the off-season and forgot to save. So I came back in, re-ran things without tinkering, assuming that my last save had been after the Sweet 16, but no...it wasn't and so, here's how it went:

FIRST ROUND: 12) SKU 94, Texas Tech 93
2ND ROUND: 12) SKU 91, 13) CSU Northrdige 79
SWEET 16: Southern Kentucky 106, 9) Gonzaga 98
ELITE 8: 12) SKU 118 3) Michigan 110
FINAL FOUR: 4) Florida 98 12) SKU 68

Well this was very unexpected. In the other semi-final VCU, a six seed knocked off 12) Temple 81-77 and VCU beat Florida 69-66 in the title to claim the upset and their first ever championship.

Crazy year, friends. CRAZY.

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That run was surprising, but there were so many upsets that it wasn't as much. It's what I meant that the only way to really win a title when you recruit in the Top 30 or so each year is to get a bit of luck. But it'd be that way, anyway.

With a prestige of 71, the SKU Saddlebreds are starting to look like they're outgrowing the MVC but there's no real clear destination for them. The best leagues above us are all football leagues, but having an increased budget would give the program a chance to reach a bit higher than they have now.

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SOUTHERN KENTUCKY TEAM PERFORMANCE Season Team W L CW CL Rank RPI PRS Result -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2002 Southern Kentucky 25 15 7 9 46 38 71 Loss in NCAA Final Four 2001 Southern Kentucky 19 14 9 7 101 76 65 Loss in CBI Round 2 2000 Southern Kentucky 28 10 10 6 17 15 63 Loss in NCAA Sweet Sixteen 1999 Southern Kentucky 27 6 14 2 39 43 58 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1998 Southern Kentucky 16 15 9 7 165 156 50 Loss in CIT Round 1 1997 Southern Kentucky 13 18 6 10 230 252 51 No Postseason 1996 Southern Kentucky 25 7 12 4 36 49 54 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1995 Southern Kentucky 29 8 14 4 25 32 50 Loss in NCAA Final Four 1994 Southern Kentucky 28 7 15 3 47 64 40 Loss in NCAA Round of 32 1993 Southern Kentucky 19 14 10 10 99 173 34 Loss in NIT Preliminary Round 1992 Southern Kentucky 7 23 4 16 335 331 32 No Postseason

With two Final Fours since 1992, SKU is clearly the 3rd best program in the state after Louisville and Kentucky and on the rise.

Here's where the conferences currently rate:

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Conference List Name Div Teams Games Prestige Tourney Teams Tourney Berth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Atlantic Coast Conference 1 16 18 5 16 Yes Big 12 Conference 1 12 18 5 12 Yes Big East Conference 2 14 18 5 14 Yes Big Ten Conference 1 14 18 5 14 Yes Pacific-12 Conference 1 12 18 5 12 Yes Southeastern Conference 1 14 18 5 14 Yes American Athletic Conference 1 12 16 4 12 Yes Atlantic 10 Conference 1 10 16 4 10 Yes Big West Conference 1 9 16 4 9 Yes Conference USA 1 12 16 4 12 Yes Ivy League 1 8 14 3 2 Yes Missouri Valley Conference 1 10 16 3 10 Yes Mountain West Conference 1 10 18 3 10 Yes Sun Belt Conference 2 12 20 3 12 Yes West Coast Conference 1 8 14 3 8 Yes America East Conference 1 10 16 2 9 Yes Atlantic Sun Conference 1 10 18 2 10 Yes Horizon League 1 10 16 2 9 Yes Northeast Conference 1 10 18 2 8 Yes Ohio Valley Conference 2 12 18 2 8 Yes Patriot League 1 10 18 2 10 Yes Southwestern Athletic Conference 1 10 18 2 10 Yes Western Athletic Conference 1 8 14 2 8 Yes Big Sky Conference 1 12 20 1 12 Yes Big South Conference 2 12 16 1 12 Yes Colonial Athletic Association 1 10 16 1 10 Yes Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference 1 11 20 1 11 Yes Mid-American Conference 2 12 16 1 12 Yes Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference 1 12 16 1 12 Yes Southern Conference 1 9 14 1 9 Yes Southland Conference 1 14 20 1 14 Yes Summit League 1 9 16 1 8 Yes

Looking for your favorite team? Here's where team prestige is:

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Lots of conference realignment, because I felt like it. The major conferences all consolidated and the ACC has been decimated.

All of this means that the Conference formerly known as the Big 12 and still is for the time being needed to regroup and invited Southern Kentucky into its league for the upcoming season.

They'll do so without their head coach, though. Another year, another head coach who has left. AGAIN. Bernie Boyd took the head man job at the University of Kentucky, who were moved to the ACC in the recent shuffles. Their coach had been there since 1986 and won them a national title, so this is a big move. But after Boyd took us to the Final Four in his first year with the program, I think they decided to spare no expense.

Where does this leave us? In the same place it's left us for a while...without a head coach and not sure precisely which way to go with it.

We lucked out though when Notre Dame head coach Quintin Byrum was forced out there when he admitted publicly to having an affair with a student. He was forced to resign but not given a show cause since the infraction was personal. Notre Dame hired Gonzaga's coach and Byrum -- who has won titles with two programs and taken every school he's been at to an Elite 8 -- was on the board when we were the highest rated program without a coach without forcing him to go much lower than he was levelwise. He's looking to redeem himself and so are we, coming off a Final Four appearance and our 5th straight coaching change. Our AD is coming under fire for hiring people who leave, but...what happens when success breeds successful people who move on?

SKU has a higher budget now that we're in the Big 12, which helps a lot. In contrast to our past years here, Coach Byrum has assembled a staff of assistants all who were previous head coaches. Normally, we have had young guys on the bench or younger guys as our head coach. One of our assistants this year? Former SKU head coach Alfonzo Jones who only spent a year here, but left for Kansas State where he'd previously been an assistant. Well, he's out at K-State and back in Kentucky as our recruiter.

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If you notice, we've worked up the ranks from a 1 prestige conference to a 4 prestige conference now. That was by design.

So this season, we'll see how the team can follow up last year.
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We come into this year with four seniors, having lost none of our starters last year from the Final Four team and replacing them with another Top 25 recruiting class and it's not unreal to say that expectations in Southern Kentucky are high this year. VCU's national title last year just steeled the resolve of fans who believe SKU can do the unthinkable. Also, having our coach taken by Kentucky, even though fans are frustrated, we feel like anything success they might have going forward would be attributed to a coach that we had first.

But it'd be so much sweeter to bring a ring to the state before they do and for once, it appears it might be remotely possible.

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SOUTHERN KENTUCKY SADDLEBREDS Schedule Date Opponent Record RPI Result Score Record -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11/09/03 vs. Kentucky 0-2 219 W 94-86 1-0 11/15/03 Kentucky A&T 1-0 1 L 116-111 1-1 11/20/03 Central Connecticut State 0-0 153 11/21/03 #13 Cincinnati 0-0 156 11/22/03 Arkansas Little Rock 0-1 133 11/28/03 at Northern Kentucky 0-1 259 11/29/03 at Rutgers 0-0 279 11/30/03 at Penn State 0-1 267 12/07/03 Harvard 1-0 73 12/13/03 Grand Canyon 1-0 72 12/14/03 Wofford 0-1 351 12/19/03 at Eastern Kentucky 1-0 67 12/29/03 South Florida 1-0 103 01/03/04 Charlotte 1-0 61 01/05/04 at Boise State 0-1 140 01/10/04 at Baylor 0-1 138 01/17/04 at Houston 0-0 200 01/19/04 at Charlotte 1-0 61 01/24/04 Southern Methodist 1-1 3 01/26/04 at Tulsa 1-0 320 01/31/04 Old Dominion 0-0 263 02/02/04 Baylor 0-1 138 02/07/04 at Texas Christian 0-1 313 02/09/04 UAB 0-1 321 02/14/04 at Southern Mississippi 0-0 297 02/16/04 vs. VCU 0-0 338 02/21/04 Houston 0-0 200 02/23/04 Boise State 0-1 140 02/28/04 at East Carolina 0-0 175
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MOST BIDS BY CONFERENCE
SEC: 8
PAC-16: 7
B1G: 6
BIG NORTH: 4
IVY: 3
A10: 3
B12: 3
MVC: 3
SUN BELT: 3
BIG EAST: 3
WCC, MAC, C-USA, ACC: 2

I took the American Athletic and renamed it the Big North in an effort to create a major northern football league.

In their first year, they didn't do too bad.

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BIG NORTH CONFERENCE BUBBLE WATCH Team Record RPI vs. 1-50 vs. 51-100 vs. 101-200 vs. 200+ SOS Projected -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Connecticut 28-4 .601 (12) 7-2 2-0 10-1 9-1 157 NCAA Rhode Island 23-9 .573 (38) 4-3 2-3 11-3 6-0 88 NCAA Temple 22-10 .566 (44) 6-5 1-2 8-2 7-1 73 NCAA Massachusetts 25-8 .565 (45) 2-6 2-0 12-1 9-1 168 NCAA Pittsburgh 18-13 .506 (158) 1-6 3-0 5-6 9-1 193 CBI Syracuse 16-15 .514 (131) 4-5 0-1 3-4 9-5 127 Out Boston College 12-19 .515 (126) 2-10 1-3 5-3 4-3 25 Out Delaware 10-21 .484 (207) 2-8 0-1 4-9 4-3 47 Out Maine 9-21 .510 (143) 0-11 0-3 6-6 3-1 8 Out William & Mary 8-22 .447 (295) 2-6 0-1 3-5 3-10 135 Out
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:38 PM   #33
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I haven't been able to figure this out. Is SKU going to be a football school or not? I've been debating this and up to now, I've been operating that they're not. I mean, the B12 move could've indicated we were but I even had them in there as a non-football school. If we're a football school, makes it easier to get into top-tier leagues. I guess we can always say they added a program or maybe we're FCS?

Would like some input on this one...I think I've decided the enrollment for the school has blown up exponentially over the years and that SKU has surpassed Western Kentucky University for the 2nd highest enrollment in the state. And maybe, eventually the #1 beyond University of Kentucky at some point.
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There are no words for this year's national champion. There are not Southern Kentucky University, either.

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Ok, so the Atlantic 10 and America East merged after several schools in the A10 decided to start their own league (which will keep the A10 history) originally called the "Hickory League" named after the Hickory Pine that predominates the eastern half of the US all the way to Kansas, but finally settled on the name, The Allied League or A-League for short.

Here are the initial 10 members:

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Duquesne
Fordham
George Washington
LaSalle
St. Joseph's
Southern Kentucky
VCU
Wichita State
Central Connecticut State (I feel like you win a national title and you deserve an upgrade in league...)
Denver

Next year, two other schools will join us to bring the league's total to 13:
Belmont
Loyola Chicago
Maryland-Baltimore County

A 14th school is possible.

The idea here was basketball-first schools, primarily in major media markets or with the success to remain competitive and to create a national footprint of likeminded programs without going too far south. So at this moment, we're not looking to join the big time of college basketball's elite because we haven't earned it. There might be a time for that in a decade or two, though, if things change.

Here's the league's look with prestige ranks at the end column:

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2005 Allied League Standings TEAM CW CL Pct W L Pct RPI Prestige -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saint Joseph's Hawks 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 23 67 Southern Kentucky Saddlebreds 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 33 78 Central Connecticut State Blue Devils 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 45 44 George Washington Colonials 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 63 80 VCU Rams 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 77 72 Duquesne Dukes 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 104 77 Fordham Rams 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 120 57 La Salle Explorers 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 128 74 Wichita State Shockers 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 255 54 Denver Pioneers 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 264 22

With the exception of SKU and CCSU, the entire league is located in major media markets. We won't get any ink in those markets, but at least we exist in them. By adding Baltimore, Nashville & Chicago next year it'll be even better. It's a coup bringing in the defending national champs and with VCU in tow, we have in our league two of the last three national champs. Only Creighton and UNLV are the other non-major conference teams to ever win national titles in-game and those titles came in the 80s.

So we're creating the premier mid-major league in a sense. Which is a real-life thing that CNNSI suggested back in 2011 called "The Major League"
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So a setback for the Saddlebreds as we miss the post-season for the first time since 1997. We also lost Curt Sistrunk after two years, he went to Ohio State and the parade of coaches continues. Someday we'll be able to get someone to stay for a while, but no idea when that'll be. We hired Kentucky native and former Middle Tennessee State head coach Chris Clark, who took them and Cal State Northridge to NCAA appearances.

I've noticed eroded development when players lose coaches, too.

In any case...here's the post-mortem. I probably recruited the best class we've ever had but those kids are going pro because I have (For now) the ability for HS kids to go straight to the pros turned on. The nice thing is, the 2005 draft will be completely insane and so, I'm excited to get to it in the NBA version of the league to see what some of these guys end up doing if anything.

Another mid-major wins a national title as SE Missouri State knocked off Alabama to claim the national championship after going 32-3 on the year or something crazy.

We lost 3 seniors last year, but this upcoming year we won't have any seniors on the team and so...while it doesn't mean we'll necessarily have a team that gels, at least we've got a chance to get this right and bring most of the kids back if we do get it right.


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SOUTHERN KENTUCKY SADDLEBREDS TEAM INFO Current Performance -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Team Prestige: 78 Record Vs 1-50: 1-7 Poll Rank: NR Season Record: 17-15 Record Vs 51-100: 2-4 RPI Rank: #80 Conference Record: 10-6 Record Vs 101-200: 7-3 Home Record: 8-5 Record Vs 200+: 7-1 Team Stats CR NR Opp. Stats CR NR Margin CR NR -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Points 80.6 2 111 Points 78.8 9 207 Points 1.8 4 135 O.Reb 16.8 5 114 O.Reb 17.8 9 278 O.Reb -1.0 8 227 D.Reb 23.0 7 226 D.Reb 24.9 9 256 D.Reb -1.8 9 269 Rebounds 39.9 6 170 Rebounds 42.7 10 285 Rebounds -2.8 8 259 Assists 16.1 6 154 Assists 17.4 10 305 Assists -1.3 9 256 Steals 9.9 3 35 Steals 7.3 4 186 Steals 2.6 3 33 Blocks 4.5 6 166 Blocks 5.9 9 328 Blocks -1.4 8 266 Turnovers 17.1 4 153 Turnovers 19.2 3 51 Turnovers -2.1 3 63 Fouls 16.8 4 112 Fouls 17.1 5 222 Fouls -0.3 4 143 FG% .432 4 196 FG% .441 6 199 FG% -.009 6 207 FT% .678 7 181 FT% .688 3 213 FT% -.009 6 213 3P% .385 2 77 3P% .375 6 233 3P% .010 4 128 PPS 1.20 4 165 PPS 1.17 4 114 PPS .029 3 123 Adj. FG% .514 2 143 Adj. FG% .512 7 196 Adj. FG% .002 3 162
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SOUTHERN KENTUCKY TEAM PERFORMANCE Season Team W L CW CL Rank RPI PRS Result -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2005 Southern Kentucky 17 15 10 6 145 80 76 No Postseason 2004 Southern Kentucky 24 13 9 5 40 33 78 Loss in NCAA Sweet Sixteen 2003 Southern Kentucky 25 13 10 6 22 19 74 Loss in NCAA Elite Eight 2002 Southern Kentucky 25 15 7 9 46 38 71 Loss in NCAA Final Four 2001 Southern Kentucky 19 14 9 7 101 76 65 Loss in CBI Round 2 2000 Southern Kentucky 28 10 10 6 17 15 63 Loss in NCAA Sweet Sixteen 1999 Southern Kentucky 27 6 14 2 39 43 58 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1998 Southern Kentucky 16 15 9 7 165 156 50 Loss in CIT Round 1 1997 Southern Kentucky 13 18 6 10 230 252 51 No Postseason 1996 Southern Kentucky 25 7 12 4 36 49 54 Loss in NCAA Round 1 1995 Southern Kentucky 29 8 14 4 25 32 50 Loss in NCAA Final Four 1994 Southern Kentucky 28 7 15 3 47 64 40 Loss in NCAA Round of 32 1993 Southern Kentucky 19 14 10 10 99 173 34 Loss in NIT Preliminary Round 1992 Southern Kentucky 7 23 4 16 335 331 32 No Postseason

So we lost Chris Clark to Tennessee, despite the year we had last year, apparently they were interested in him a year ago before he left MTSU, so..off he goes and now we have to find another coach.

Here's the coaching carousel over the years, in case you're having trouble keeping up like me:

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SOUTHERN KENTUCKY COACHING STAFF Season Head Coach Assistant Coach Recruiting Coordinator Scout -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2005 Chris Clark Berkly Sales Albert Boyett Junior Boyette 2004 Quintin Byrum Raphael Cruz Alfonzo Jones Andrew Worden 2003 Quintin Byrum Raphael Cruz Alfonzo Jones Andrew Worden 2002 Bernie Boyd Buddy Norton Gerald Mitchell Dustin Stumpf 2001 Brian Pace Buddy Norton Bernie Boyd Dustin Stumpf 2000 Shon Dobbs Buddy Norton Jamiah Cassidy Dustin Stumpf 1999 Clint Sistrunk Shon Dobbs Jamiah Cassidy Benjamin Samuel 1998 Clint Sistrunk Shon Dobbs Rolf Bermudez Benjamin Samuel 1997 Brian Pace Shon Dobbs Rolf Bermudez Benjamin Samuel 1996 Brian Pace Shon Dobbs Rolf Bermudez Benjamin Samuel 1995 Brian Pace Shon Dobbs Jeffrey Burns Thomas Abney 1994 Brian Pace Leonel Nelson Jeffrey Burns Thomas Abney 1993 Alfonzo Jones Leonel Nelson Jeffrey Burns Thomas Abney 1992 Robert Smith Claud Hardin Eliseo Lynn Andrew Thiel

I'm thinking we'll go with an older assistant who has never been a head coach or something. CCSU did that when they won their title, that guy wasn't a head coach until his 50s, of course he bolted for UConn after he won the title with them as they had an opening, but...still?

Or a really young guy and hope we can groom him into the role down the road. Or maybe an alumnus.

But man...we need someone to stick around.

Finally, here's what the Allied League will look like next year, barring a last minute 14th team addition. The league now has 13 members.

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2006 Allied League Standings TEAM CW CL Pct W L Pct RPI Prestige --------------------------------------------------------------------------------ac #12 VCU Rams 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 22 76 Loyola Chicago Ramblers 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 54 39 George Washington Colonials 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 55 79 Wichita State Shockers 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 71 57 Southern Kentucky Saddlebreds 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 80 76 Belmont Bruins 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 83 40 Duquesne Dukes 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 120 75 Saint Joseph's Hawks 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 130 65 Central Connecticut State Blue Devils 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 151 47 Fordham Rams 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 174 54 UMBC Retrievers 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 243 40 La Salle Explorers 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 304 66 Denver Pioneers 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 310 25

I think I'll go back to adding Kentucky HS prospects into the game, as I'd like to start to recognize some of these kids heading to the pro game as I don't right now and it'd be more interesting to have some careers to follow especially dating back to their HS years. It'll make future draft classes more interesting for me. But probably not immediately, maybe closer to the 20 year mark, since I'd like to see how this program goes in the next few years and then see where we end up next.
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The OS dudes crowdsourced the idea that this school should be a football school, so I went ahead and created them in NCAA14. They won't ever make it to this dynasty, but...decided it was good to have colors for this program finally and so, we went with Eggplant from the original mighty ducks and Orange, with blue as an alternate.

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Our new head coach is Kentucky high school basketball legend Tony Patrick who retired in 1999 after a pro basketball career which included several years in the NBA. Unlike Brian Pace, Patrick never coached in HS, he was an NBA assistant before deciding to come back to his home state to be a college coach.

Here's his resume:

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PLAYER DETAILS #45 PF Tony Patrick ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Height: 6-6 Weight: 244 DOB: 1/21/1965 (39) College: Ohio State Hometown: Hindman, KY Exp: 13 Attributes: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Type INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK QKN STR JMP STA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Potential: - - - - - - - - - - - - Stat Averages: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season LGE TEAM G GS MIN PTS ORE REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1998 CBA BEI 10 0 3.2 0.9 0.3 0.9 0.0 0.0 0.00 0.1 0.0 0.3 1997 FTB STL 35 0 7.3 2.4 0.5 1.4 0.3 0.2 1.13 0.2 0.1 1.3 1995 NBA CGO 68 0 12.8 5.0 1.3 2.9 0.9 0.8 1.05 0.3 0.2 2.2 1994 NBA CGO 82 0 17.8 7.3 1.4 3.7 0.9 1.0 0.96 0.6 0.5 3.1 1993 NBA CGO 82 82 32.9 14.3 2.7 7.7 1.7 1.5 1.09 0.9 0.5 4.1 1992 NBA CGO 82 82 34.0 12.5 2.4 8.0 1.3 1.7 0.79 0.6 0.5 4.4 1991 NBA CGO 77 77 34.8 14.4 3.1 8.5 1.6 1.9 0.88 0.7 0.6 4.3 1990 BBL BRO 7 7 30.4 29.4 3.4 10.3 0.7 2.0 0.36 1.1 0.3 3.9 1989 ACB SEV 34 34 27.3 16.5 2.9 8.5 1.2 1.3 0.91 0.6 0.5 3.5 1988 ACB SEV 34 34 25.5 13.5 2.9 7.7 1.2 1.1 1.05 0.6 0.5 3.6 1987 NBA ORL 68 0 12.0 5.0 1.1 2.9 0.6 0.6 1.00 0.4 0.3 1.9 1986 NBA KEN 82 3 16.9 7.6 1.1 3.5 0.8 1.0 0.81 0.5 0.3 2.6 1985 NBA KEN 82 1 15.5 8.4 0.9 3.1 0.7 0.8 0.88 0.5 0.2 2.5 Career 743 320 21.9 9.7 1.8 5.2 1.0 1.1 0.88 0.6 0.4 3.1 Shooting Averages: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season FGM FGA FG% FTM FTA FT% InsM InsA In% JsM JsA Js% 3PM 3PA 3P% ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1998 0.3 0.8 .375 0.2 0.4 .500 0.2 0.3 .667 0.0 0.2 .000 0.1 0.3 .333 1997 1.0 2.2 .442 0.4 0.6 .682 0.5 0.8 .643 0.5 1.2 .390 0.0 0.2 .000 1995 2.1 4.5 .458 0.8 1.0 .750 1.3 2.2 .588 0.6 1.7 .381 0.1 0.7 .222 1994 3.1 6.2 .495 1.0 1.5 .672 2.1 3.3 .644 0.8 2.2 .370 0.2 0.7 .213 1993 6.0 11.2 .532 2.0 2.9 .700 4.1 6.3 .647 1.5 3.6 .411 0.4 1.3 .308 1992 5.0 9.5 .525 2.2 3.2 .692 3.6 5.3 .684 1.0 2.8 .362 0.3 1.4 .250 1991 5.9 11.1 .533 2.2 3.4 .659 4.0 6.2 .647 1.5 3.6 .406 0.4 1.2 .326 1990 12.3 18.0 .683 4.0 7.0 .571 8.6 9.9 .870 2.9 6.0 .476 0.9 2.1 .400 1989 6.5 11.8 .552 2.9 4.3 .685 4.6 6.8 .672 1.4 3.6 .398 0.5 1.4 .362 1988 5.6 9.5 .587 2.1 3.0 .709 4.2 5.6 .743 1.1 2.8 .411 0.2 1.1 .222 1987 2.0 3.7 .550 0.8 1.2 .646 1.3 2.1 .625 0.5 1.1 .461 0.2 0.4 .414 1986 3.0 5.6 .539 1.3 1.9 .691 2.1 3.2 .674 0.6 1.6 .364 0.3 0.8 .354 1985 3.3 5.8 .576 1.5 1.9 .797 2.4 3.2 .744 0.7 1.8 .386 0.2 0.7 .295 Career 3.9 7.4 .536 1.6 2.2 .693 2.7 4.1 .672 0.9 2.4 .394 0.3 0.9 .292 Stat Totals: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season LGE TEAM G GS MIN PTS OREB REB AST TO STL BLK PF +/- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1998 CBA BEI 10 0 32 9 3 9 0 0 1 0 3 -10 1997 FTB STL 35 0 256 83 19 48 9 8 8 2 47 -47 1995 NBA CGO 68 0 870 341 91 200 58 55 20 11 148 -69 1994 NBA CGO 82 0 1462 601 116 305 76 79 49 44 252 41 1993 NBA CGO 82 82 2701 1176 224 629 137 126 75 37 340 12 1992 NBA CGO 82 82 2789 1024 199 660 107 136 49 38 360 -126 1991 NBA CGO 77 77 2682 1110 235 652 126 143 52 47 328 -275 1990 BBL BRO 7 7 213 206 24 72 5 14 8 2 27 71 1989 ACB SEV 34 34 928 561 97 290 41 45 22 17 120 93 1988 ACB SEV 34 34 868 459 98 262 41 39 22 18 122 169 1987 NBA ORL 68 0 814 337 75 198 38 38 25 20 131 -166 1986 NBA KEN 82 3 1384 622 93 291 64 79 40 22 216 135 1985 NBA KEN 82 1 1269 688 73 252 58 66 45 16 208 217 Career 743 320 16268 7217 1347 3868 760 828 416 274 2302 45 Shooting Totals ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season FGM FGA FTM FTA 3PM 3PA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1998 3 8 2 4 1 3 1997 34 77 15 22 0 8 1995 140 306 51 68 10 45 1994 252 509 84 125 13 61 1993 489 919 166 237 32 104 1992 407 775 182 263 28 112 1991 455 854 170 258 30 92 1990 86 126 28 49 6 15 1989 222 402 100 146 17 47 1988 189 322 73 103 8 36 1987 137 249 51 79 12 29 1986 247 458 105 152 23 65 1985 272 472 126 158 18 61 Career 2933 5477 1153 1664 198 678 Efficiency: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season LGE TEAM G TS% PPS AST TO USG ORR DRR RR PER VA EWA +/- OEFF DEFF ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1998 CBA BEI 10 .400 1.13 0.0 0.0 12.1 12.5 20.7 17.0 12.4 0.4 0.0 -1.0 110.8 139.0 1997 FTB STL 35 .483 1.08 8.7 7.7 15.7 10.6 16.2 13.4 10.2 -4.8 -0.2 -1.3 102.0 114.8 1995 NBA CGO 68 .506 1.11 12.9 12.2 19.1 12.3 15.8 14.0 11.8 4.5 0.1 -1.0 110.6 115.6 1994 NBA CGO 82 .532 1.18 10.6 11.0 18.8 9.2 16.3 12.6 14.0 54.2 1.8 0.5 111.8 110.5 1993 NBA CGO 82 .575 1.28 10.7 9.8 18.1 9.9 18.9 14.3 16.0 183.2 6.1 0.1 113.0 111.4 1992 NBA CGO 82 .575 1.32 9.4 12.0 15.8 8.6 20.5 14.5 13.3 75.5 2.5 -1.5 109.3 110.9 1991 NBA CGO 77 .573 1.30 10.2 11.6 17.4 10.3 19.9 14.9 15.4 154.1 5.1 -3.6 109.2 113.3 1990 BBL BRO 7 .696 1.63 3.0 8.4 32.0 14.8 28.1 21.6 47.7 115.2 3.8 10.1 117.7 98.2 1989 ACB SEV 34 .601 1.40 7.4 8.2 23.2 12.9 26.0 19.4 26.5 208.3 6.9 2.7 108.4 101.4 1988 ACB SEV 34 .627 1.43 9.2 8.7 19.5 14.2 23.2 18.8 24.7 171.5 5.7 5.0 111.5 99.8 1987 NBA ORL 68 .592 1.35 10.6 10.6 16.2 10.0 18.6 14.0 16.9 65.9 2.2 -2.4 101.2 112.8 1986 NBA KEN 82 .592 1.36 9.6 11.8 18.4 7.9 18.4 12.9 15.9 91.7 3.1 1.6 107.5 103.5 1985 NBA KEN 82 .635 1.46 8.7 9.9 20.1 7.9 17.5 13.0 19.8 156.6 5.2 2.6 112.5 103.8 Career 743 .581 1.32 9.7 10.6 18.3 10.0 19.5 14.6 16.8 1276.3 42.5 0.1 109.9 109.4 Playoff Averages: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season LGE TEAM G GS MIN PTS ORE REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1997 FTB STL 1 0 12.0 4.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.00 1.0 0.0 1.0 1994 NBA CGO 11 0 22.4 10.5 1.7 5.5 1.3 2.4 0.54 0.8 0.5 2.5 1986 NBA KEN 18 0 13.7 6.0 1.2 2.8 1.0 1.2 0.86 0.4 0.3 2.3 1985 NBA KEN 6 0 16.7 10.5 1.0 3.0 1.2 1.5 0.78 0.5 0.2 4.0 Career 743 320 21.9 9.7 1.8 5.2 1.0 1.1 0.78 0.6 0.4 3.1 Playoff Shooting Averages: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season FGM FGA FG% FTM FTA FT% InsM InsA In% JsM JsA Js% 3PM 3PA 3P% ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1997 2.0 3.0 .667 0.0 0.0 .000 1.0 1.0 1.000 1.0 1.0 1.000 0.0 1.0 .000 1994 4.5 7.0 .649 1.2 1.8 .650 3.2 4.5 .700 1.1 2.0 .545 0.3 0.5 .600 1986 2.6 4.6 .561 0.9 1.1 .800 1.9 2.6 .761 0.6 1.7 .367 0.0 0.3 .000 1985 4.0 6.7 .600 2.0 2.7 .750 3.3 4.5 .741 0.2 1.2 .143 0.5 1.0 .500 Career 3.9 7.4 .536 1.6 2.2 .693 2.7 4.1 .672 0.9 2.4 .394 0.3 0.9 .292 Playoff Totals: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season LGE TEAM G GS MIN PTS OREB REB AST TO STL BLK PF +/- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1997 FTB STL 1 0 12 4 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 -7 1994 NBA CGO 11 0 246 116 19 61 14 26 9 5 27 71 1986 NBA KEN 18 0 247 108 21 50 18 21 7 6 41 -2 1985 NBA KEN 6 0 100 63 6 18 7 9 3 1 24 -13 Career 743 320 16268 7217 1347 3868 760 828 416 274 2302 45 Playoff Shooting Totals ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season FGM FGA FTM FTA 3PM 3PA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1997 2 3 0 0 0 1 1994 50 77 13 20 3 5 1986 46 82 16 20 0 6 1985 24 40 12 16 3 6 Career 2933 5477 1153 1664 198 678 Playoff Efficiency: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season LGE TEAM G TS% PPS AST TO USG ORR DRR RR PER VA EWA +/- OEFF DEFF ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1997 FTB STL 1 .667 1.33 0.0 0.0 10.2 0.0 50.0 9.1 0.0 -2.1 -0.1 -7.0 91.3 121.7 1994 NBA CGO 11 .674 1.51 11.1 20.6 19.2 9.4 19.6 14.6 14.2 9.7 0.3 6.5 122.2 107.3 1986 NBA KEN 18 .593 1.32 13.8 16.2 19.4 10.5 15.2 12.8 13.0 5.3 0.2 -0.1 106.8 109.1 1985 NBA KEN 6 .681 1.58 11.1 14.3 23.0 8.2 14.3 11.5 16.8 7.8 0.3 -2.2 111.7 118.0 Career 743 .581 1.32 9.7 10.6 19.7 9.5 17.1 13.3 13.8 20.7 0.7 0.1 109.9 109.4 Career Highs: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Type Pts OReb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO FGM FGA FTM FTA 3PM 3PA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Playoff 26 4 14 3 2 3 6 11 15 5 8 2 2 Career 45 9 18 7 4 5 7 18 28 11 14 4 5 Awards & Achievements: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season Award ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total Player of the Game: 25 Total Player of the Week: 2 Total Player of the Month: 1 Total All-Star Appearances: 1 Total All-League Third Team : 1 1989 ACB All-League Third Team 1989 ACB All-Star 1988 ACB All-Rookie Second Team 1985 NBA All-Rookie Second Team 1985 NBA Rookie Game Participant 1984 1st Team All-Conference (Big Ten Conference) 1984 1st Team All-American 1983 2nd Team All-Conference (Big Ten Conference) 1982 Conference Freshman of the Year (Big Ten Conference) 1982 Freshman All-Conference (Big Ten Conference) 1982 1st Team All-Conference (Big Ten Conference) 1982 Freshman All-American 1982 2nd Team All-American 1981 High School: All-American 1981 High School: All-State (Kentucky) 1981 High School: Rated ***** and #2 overall by the FBCB scouting service.
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