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Old 02-20-2020, 05:32 PM   #21701
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Trump fires an acting DNI and replaced with a crony because the DNI dared to report to Congress that the Russians are trying to interfere with the 2020 election in Trump's favor. Trump loves firing people for doing their job and being honest. I am so glad he learned his lesson from the impeachment

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Old 02-20-2020, 06:04 PM   #21702
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Trump fires an acting DNI and replaced with a crony because the DNI dared to report to Congress that the Russians are trying to interfere with the 2020 election in Trump's favor. Trump loves firing people for doing their job and being honest. I am so glad he learned his lesson from the impeachment

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And so glad the Dems are keeping their promise to continue holding Trump accountable. Trump's going to steal the election while the Dems argue over what type of socialist is the good type.
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Old 02-20-2020, 06:07 PM   #21703
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Trump fires an acting DNI and replaced with a crony because the DNI dared to report to Congress that the Russians are trying to interfere with the 2020 election in Trump's favor. Trump loves firing people for doing their job and being honest. I am so glad he learned his lesson from the impeachment

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Definitely has all the signs of a rage firing. Grenell isn't close to qualified enough to bother nominating for the position so he's yet another person in an acting role, but this seems to be temporary enough that they're not pulling him from his ambassador job in Berlin (where the Germans have apparently been considering asking him to leave).
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Old Yesterday, 12:00 AM   #21704
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I always wondered how demagogues were allowed to keep doing all the crazy shit they end up doing. Like why don't the people just stop taking them seriously and laugh when we hear about the crazy propagandist exploits of their leaders, but now I know. I wish I didn't, but I do and it's still rather unreal.
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Old Yesterday, 09:47 AM   #21705
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This is quite a list when you see it all in one place. All of this is since Trump was acquitted by the Senate.

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2. Trump fired Ambassador to the EU Gordan Sondland, who provided damaging testimony in the impeachment inquiry.

3. Trump fired Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, who provided damaging testimony in the impeachment inquiry.

4. Trump called on Vindman to be investigated by the Pentagon.

5. Trump attacked his former Chief of Staff, John Kelly, for defending Vindman, saying Kelly had a "legal obligation" to "keep his mouth shut."

6. Trump ordered the removal of John C. Rood, a Pentagon official who told Congress that he had cleared the release of military aid to Ukraine. (Trump withheld it anyway.)

7. Trump called the Justice Department's sentencing recommendation for his longtime political adviser, Roger Stone, "horrible and very unfair."

8. Trump cheered Attorney General Bill Barr when he intervened in the Stone case to withdraw the sentencing recommendation. Four prosecutors on the case resigned in protest.

9. Trump attacked the judge presiding over Stone's case, Amy Berman Jackson, as biased, falsely accusing her of placing his former campaign manager Paul Manafort in solitary confinement.

10. Trump withdrew the nomination of Jessie Liu, who oversaw the Stone prosecution, to a top Treasury department position.

11. Trump asserted he has the legal right to order Barr to intervene in any criminal case.

12. Trump's Attorney General, William Barr, assigned an outside prosecutor to review the case against Michael Flynn, Trump's former National Security Adviser who pled guilty to lying to investigators. (Barr is also reviewing other "politically sensitive" cases.)

13. Trump commuted the sentence former Governor Rod Blagojevich, who was convicted of trying to sell a U.S. Senate seat. (Blagojevich appeared on Trump's reality show and wrote an op-ed for a conservative publication opposing impeachment.)

14. Trump pardoned Michael Milken who was sentenced to 10 years for securities fraud. Milken is a personal friend of Trump's Treasury Secretary, Steven Mnuchin.

15. Trump pardoned Bernie Kerik, who served three years in jail for tax fraud. Kerik frequently defends Trump on Fox News.

16. Trump granted clemency to Paul Pogue, who was convicted of tax evasion. Pogue is a major donor to Trump's campaign and the GOP.

17. Trump pardoned David Safavian, who was convicted of obstructing the investigation of corrupt lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

18. Trump commuted the sentence of Judith Negron, who was convicted of a $205 million Medicare fraud scheme and money laundering.

19. Trump diverted $3.8 billion in military funding to build the wall he said Mexico would pay for.
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Old Yesterday, 10:03 AM   #21706
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Need to add that he attacked the foreman (woman) of the jury that found Stone guilty, called her credibility into question (basically said she was a never trumper out to get him) and said that Stone had been treated very unfairly.


And where the hell is #1 on that list?
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Old Yesterday, 10:51 AM   #21707
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No 1 was just a line about the timeframe.
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Old Yesterday, 10:53 AM   #21708
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dola

Just saw a depressing possibility(luckily quite a longshot).

Dem wins by a few million votes.
269-269 electoral college tie.
Dems retain majority in the House,
But, GOP has a majority of states.
So, a minority of GOP House Reps elect Trump as President.
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Old Yesterday, 11:09 AM   #21709
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269-269 electoral college tie.

IIRC (too lazy to look up to confirm) I think there's a semi-legit path here-- Dems flip PA and MI (polls support this as viable right now), and manage to swing one of the district votes in Nebraska (who breaks up their EC voters) to go blue (less likely, but not unthinkable). And there you go.
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Old Yesterday, 12:49 PM   #21710
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I just looked at the state delegations list and, yep, the GOP has majorities in exactly 26 states. Whoever wrote that tiebreak rule is a moron. why even have it go to the House if you're going to give every state equal votes like in the Senate?
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Old Yesterday, 04:45 PM   #21711
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No 1 was just a line about the timeframe.


Your one got eaten by my earlier two.
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Old Yesterday, 04:56 PM   #21712
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And so glad the Dems are keeping their promise to continue holding Trump accountable. Trump's going to steal the election while the Dems argue over what type of socialist is the good type.

What can they do? They already impeached the guy.
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Old Yesterday, 05:01 PM   #21713
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What can they do? They already impeached the guy.

Armed rebellion I guess?
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Old Yesterday, 06:16 PM   #21714
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Tea Party sure shut the fuck up fast after Trump got elected.

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Old Yesterday, 07:27 PM   #21715
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What can they do? They already impeached the guy.

My understanding is that the constitution still permits investigations by House committees.

Dems are also allowed to provide coordinated statements to media outlets.

They can also talk about Trump's corruption while 20 million people are watching a debate full of Dems.

They aren't helpless, and every crime ignored is a crime excused.
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Old Today, 04:37 AM   #21716
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dola

Just saw a depressing possibility(luckily quite a longshot).

Dem wins by a few million votes.
269-269 electoral college tie.
Dems retain majority in the House,
But, GOP has a majority of states.
So, a minority of GOP House Reps elect Trump as President.

I'm not sure, but I think it's the incoming House that votes, not the outgoing. So if Dems retained the majority, they could, in theory, also gain a majority of state delegations.

That said, they probably didn't have as good a day as THAT if the EC is split.
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