NFL Week 7

Butter · 10-20-2016, 10:00 AM

National games:

Chicago v. Green Bay - Thurs. night
NY Giants v. LA Rams - London, Sun. morning
New England v. Pittsburgh - Sun. late afternoon
Seattle v. Arizona - Sun. night
Houston v. Denver - Mon. night

Thomkal · 10-20-2016, 10:23 AM

this is the third consecutive week my beloved Cardinals play a non-Sunday afternoon game. This one is pretty important for them with Seattle leading the division. Cards pretty much playing for a wild card should they lose here.

BishopMVP · 10-20-2016, 12:47 PM

Domestic violence matters. (If there's video.) https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/brown...vior/206655618

Maybe they can make the footballs pink this week to show how much they care about women!

Butter · 10-20-2016, 12:50 PM

As long as there was no video of any of the stuff described, we good.

stevew · 10-20-2016, 02:59 PM

As long as Goddell doesn't watch it, it doesn't exist.

wustin · 10-20-2016, 03:18 PM

Is it blasphemous to think the Bears will win tonight? Something is wrong with Rodgers and the Bears' offense has been rolling even though they've been losing.

CrescentMoonie · 10-20-2016, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wustin

Is it blasphemous to think the Bears will win tonight? Something is wrong with Rodgers and the Bears' offense has been rolling even though they've been losing.

I've got bets down for +7.5 and for +290 straight up. The only thing giving me pause is it's a Thursday game and GB is at home.

NobodyHere · 10-20-2016, 05:08 PM

Antonio Cromartie's wife claims Colts cut husband over anthem protest

If this is true then kudos to the Colts

wustin · 10-20-2016, 05:24 PM

I thought this man lost weight during the off-season how did he put it back on so quickly already.

Report: Eddie Lacy back up to 255-265 pounds | ProFootballTalk

sabotai · 10-20-2016, 06:03 PM

Josh Brown not traveling with the Giants to London.

Ian Rapoport on Twitter: "#Giants say K Josh Brown will not travel to London. Their statement: https://t.co/uRSit4NAhx"

NobodyHere · 10-20-2016, 08:13 PM

Bad news Bears,

Hoyer may be injured.

CrescentMoonie · 10-20-2016, 08:13 PM

And it looks like Hoyer's arm is toast.

wustin · 10-20-2016, 08:20 PM

Matt Barkley time!

wustin · 10-20-2016, 08:45 PM

Did anyone catch that first down given to GB even though that completion was no where near first down?

cuervo72 · 10-20-2016, 08:46 PM

I think somebody (Czaban?) earlier in the year noticed that the refs are hardly ever calling for measurements, and pretty much just ballpark placements and first downs. I think there's something to this.

Thomkal · 10-20-2016, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wustin

Matt Barkley time!

kinda hope this works out for Barkley. Didn't like how the Cards let him go after he got their only win in the preseason. This may come back to hurt them as Palmer might be hurt again and is up in the air whether he will start against Seattle.

wustin · 10-20-2016, 09:07 PM

I guess Hoyer is done for the season.

rush_27 · 10-20-2016, 09:14 PM

As a Packers fan, I am dismayed at how our offense looks at the moment

jbergey22 · 10-20-2016, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rush_27

As a Packers fan, I am dismayed at how our offense looks at the moment

Not throwing the ball deep at all. Just everything under 10 yards.

rush_27 · 10-20-2016, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Not throwing the ball deep at all. Just everything under 10 yards.

The quick short throws are working but there isn't a run game so the Bears know what's coming. Cobb could be the difference tonight

rush_27 · 10-20-2016, 09:46 PM

This is more like it. Short and quick

Julio Riddols · 10-20-2016, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

I think somebody (Czaban?) earlier in the year noticed that the refs are hardly ever calling for measurements, and pretty much just ballpark placements and first downs. I think there's something to this.

I wonder who will be the first ref to come forward and admit the league instructed them to give the benefit of the doubt to certain teams in any way they could. It has gone beyond bad officiating this year and into the realm of questionable motives, at least for me.. And I don't usually get into conspiracy stuff. There have been an incredible amount of head scratching calls this year, to the point I can barely even stomach watching football anymore. The whole product feels like an inconsistent lie.

It sucks to spend your whole life adoring something and then watch it change for the worse like the NFL has since Roger took over.

rush_27 · 10-20-2016, 10:07 PM

Bausby having a 'mare!

AlexB · 10-21-2016, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Antonio Cromartie's wife claims Colts cut husband over anthem protest

If this is true then kudos to the Colts

So it had nothing to do with him being targeted 5-6 plays in a row in London when the Jags marched down the field at the end of the 1st half? Every play was either a reception or PI (he had at least two flags in those plays)

Then he was withdrawn with 'a shoulder injury' and was designated questionable to return... there was no injury.

We noticed it live and were laughing about how bad he was.

molson · 10-21-2016, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I wonder who will be the first ref to come forward and admit the league instructed them to give the benefit of the doubt to certain teams in any way they could. It has gone beyond bad officiating this year and into the realm of questionable motives, at least for me.. And I don't usually get into conspiracy stuff. There have been an incredible amount of head scratching calls this year, to the point I can barely even stomach watching football anymore. The whole product feels like an inconsistent lie.

It sucks to spend your whole life adoring something and then watch it change for the worse like the NFL has since Roger took over.

There's never been a time that FOFC didn't think officiating was the "worst it's ever been". I still think officiating is just a lot harder than people think, and we see more and more at home every year with more cameras and better-quality television definition. Just like the players, they're going to make a lot of mistakes. And there's also plenty of judgment calls which will feel incorrect to fans of the team the call went against.

I've never bought that the NFL has a motive to rig games when weighed against the risk of that. Put the existence of a billion dollar company in the hands of part-time referees and hope they stay loyal? Why? Just so the Packers can win a Thursday night game against the Bears (that they're probably going to win anyway)? Why is that so important?

Edit: The owners are such a huge part of the what the NFL is, maybe more than other sport. Who inside the NFL is going on their own, against that power structure, and betraying NFL owners by rigging games for them to lose? Does this come from Goodell, and if so, why does he care who wins a random Packers/Bears game to the extent of having this conspiracy against the owners and the fans and everyone who does business with the NFL? How much better off is the NFL today that the Packers won that game (or any other particular game)? And specifically, what does NFL management gain, as opposed to the teams, who the conspiracy would have to be against - (unless you're saying the Bears are in on it too)? If the Packers winning somehow gains them more TV money, the teams and owners would be getting the bulk of that money, not NFL management.

cuervo72 · 10-21-2016, 11:33 AM

I don't know if the measurements thing is a way to influence outcomes (though it certainly COULD be used that way), but I do wonder if there's been an effort to eliminate them to 1) move things along a bit and 2) recognize that ball placement isn't the most accurate thing to begin with, and there's no need to scrutinize it (replay) as often, showing how inaccurate it can be. Better to just gloss over things, award the first down, and move the game along. Better for offense anyway.

molson · 10-21-2016, 11:36 AM

I can see that. Measurements always seemed silly anyway. They're doing an exact measurement for a ball and a stick that were placed as an eyeball judgment call in the first place. Plus you can easily see if a ball is across the line in 99% of situations. (Maybe it's tougher at field-level, I don't know). And it seemed like coaches were traditionally requesting measurements as a way to take an uncharged time-out, maybe the refs have just cut back on granting those requests.

I also wonder if people are just looking for things to support a conspiracy. Is there actual data or a league statement about cutting back on measurements?

BishopMVP · 10-22-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Domestic violence matters. (If there's video.) https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/brown...vior/206655618

Maybe they can make the footballs pink this week to show how much they care about women!

What a clusterfuck this turned into. From Mara saying he knew he abused his wife to McAdoo coming out in support of him hours before they reverse course.

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Two league officials believe the NFL was disinterested in Brown's case when compared to the fervor with which it pursued the New England Patriots over Deflategate.
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The NFL implemented a six-game suspension for domestic violence cases in 2014, though a player has yet to be punished for six games. The policy allows for aggravating circumstances that can make the suspension longer or mitigating circumstances that can make it shorter.

In an interview with BBC Sport on Friday, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said, "We take this issue incredibly seriously. This is something we've been working on with policy changes, to educating our players to make sure they understand how they deal with issues with their family, give them resources to be able to deal with this. But when it happens, we're not going to tolerate it. So we have some new information here, we'll evaluate that in the context of our policy, and we'll take it from there."

What a friggin joke. Maybe if Kraft had done nothing the NFL would've put Aaron Hernandez on the exempt list and we could've avoided that cap hit too

I know Goodell is a puppet of the owners and does a perfect job being the magnet for criticism, but it's time to get a new figurehead and give the appearance of change.

CrescentMoonie · 10-23-2016, 09:09 AM

I think we're seeing the difference between spending the week in London and only flying in on Friday when it's a 5 time zone difference.

Jas_lov · 10-23-2016, 09:25 AM

Josh Brown needs to be suspended for life and I said the same about Ray Rice. There shouldn't be any tolerance for domestic violence. Brown only got a slap on the wrist because he is white.

CrescentMoonie · 10-23-2016, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Josh Brown needs to be suspended for life and I said the same about Ray Rice. There shouldn't be any tolerance for domestic violence. Brown only got a slap on the wrist because he is white.

Nonsense. Ray Rice got a slap on the wrist until the video came out. If there's no physical evidence, the NFL will hide behind that. Has nothing to do with race.

CrescentMoonie · 10-23-2016, 09:29 AM

That Tavon Austin contract looks better every day.

How is it possible for Goff to be worse than Keenum?

sovereignstar v2 · 10-23-2016, 12:32 PM

5 turnovers already in the vikings-eagles game wtf.

CrescentMoonie · 10-23-2016, 12:34 PM

Matt Jones better spend the rest of the day collecting splinters.

CrescentMoonie · 10-23-2016, 01:18 PM

Kevin Hogan in at QB for Cleveland. That's 6 people who have taken QB snaps for the Browns this season.

frnk55 · 10-23-2016, 01:34 PM

Can someone explain to me how youtube live can show nfl games? Cubs game last night too. I don't get it.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-23-2016, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by frnk55

Can someone explain to me how youtube live can show nfl games? Cubs game last night too. I don't get it.

Pretty simple, they have all sorts of deals cut with the NFL. They've rapidly expanded their relationship since the league launched an official channel less than two years ago.

frnk55 · 10-23-2016, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Pretty simple, they have all sorts of deals cut with the NFL. They've rapidly expanded their relationship since the league launched an official channel less than two years ago.

OIC. Thx. Feels like I have sunday ticket again.

CrescentMoonie · 10-23-2016, 02:02 PM

Redskins have multiple first downs on all 7 drives today. Cousins has 0 INTs. They have 3 points.

Thomkal · 10-23-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Kevin Hogan in at QB for Cleveland. That's 6 people who have taken QB snaps for the Browns this season.

They are certainly cursed this year.

Thomkal · 10-23-2016, 02:11 PM

Geno Smith hurt too for Jets, saw Josh Norman heading off to locker room too.

CrescentMoonie · 10-23-2016, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Geno Smith hurt too for Jets, saw Josh Norman heading off to locker room too.

Concussion for Norman. Got beat on a deep ball, barely, and whacked his head pretty hard on the tackle. His eyes were rolled back as his body rolled over after the tackle.

EagleFan · 10-23-2016, 02:21 PM

This is the Sammy Sleeves we know.

AlexB · 10-23-2016, 02:32 PM

Jay Ajayi has suddenly become a beast behind the first choice Miami O-line.

cuervo72 · 10-23-2016, 02:58 PM

Last-minute TD for Detroit, and now Trent Williams down. Fortunes turned quick for WAS late.

CrescentMoonie · 10-23-2016, 03:02 PM

Redskins made too many mistakes early. Out gained Detroit 415-344, had the ball for 34:56, but two early fumbles and a missed FG were the difference.

CrescentMoonie · 10-23-2016, 03:04 PM

Players in NFL history with back-to-back 200 yard rushing games: Earl Campbell, OJ Simpson, Ricky Williams, and Jay Ajayi.

SirFozzie · 10-23-2016, 03:04 PM

Lol bills

AlexB · 10-23-2016, 03:09 PM

The way it's going it might be lol Dolphins

Thomkal · 10-23-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Concussion for Norman. Got beat on a deep ball, barely, and whacked his head pretty hard on the tackle. His eyes were rolled back as his body rolled over after the tackle.

Yeah that's what I figured-hopefully he can come back quickly from it.

10-20-2016, 10:23 AM	#2
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	this is the third consecutive week my beloved Cardinals play a non-Sunday afternoon game. This one is pretty important for them with Seattle leading the division. Cards pretty much playing for a wild card should they lose here. __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

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Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	As long as there was no video of any of the stuff described, we good. __________________ My listening habits

10-20-2016, 02:59 PM	#5
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	As long as Goddell doesn't watch it, it doesn't exist. Last edited by stevew : 10-20-2016 at 03:04 PM.

10-20-2016, 03:18 PM	#6
wustin College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2014	Is it blasphemous to think the Bears will win tonight? Something is wrong with Rodgers and the Bears' offense has been rolling even though they've been losing. Last edited by wustin : 10-20-2016 at 03:18 PM.

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BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Domestic violence matters. (If there's video.) https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/brown...vior/206655618 Maybe they can make the footballs pink this week to show how much they care about women!

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wustin College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2014	I thought this man lost weight during the off-season how did he put it back on so quickly already. Report: Eddie Lacy back up to 255-265 pounds \| ProFootballTalk

10-20-2016, 06:03 PM	#10
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Josh Brown not traveling with the Giants to London. Ian Rapoport on Twitter: "#Giants say K Josh Brown will not travel to London. Their statement: https://t.co/uRSit4NAhx"

10-20-2016, 08:13 PM	#11
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Bad news Bears, Hoyer may be injured. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

10-20-2016, 08:13 PM	#12
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	And it looks like Hoyer's arm is toast.

10-20-2016, 08:20 PM	#13
wustin College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2014	Matt Barkley time!

10-20-2016, 08:45 PM	#14
wustin College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2014	Did anyone catch that first down given to GB even though that completion was no where near first down?

10-20-2016, 08:46 PM	#15
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	I think somebody (Czaban?) earlier in the year noticed that the refs are hardly ever calling for measurements, and pretty much just ballpark placements and first downs. I think there's something to this. __________________ null

10-20-2016, 09:07 PM	#17
wustin College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2014	I guess Hoyer is done for the season.

10-20-2016, 09:14 PM	#18
rush_27 n00b Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: UK	As a Packers fan, I am dismayed at how our offense looks at the moment

10-20-2016, 09:46 PM	#21
rush_27 n00b Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: UK	This is more like it. Short and quick

10-20-2016, 10:07 PM	#23
rush_27 n00b Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: UK	Bausby having a 'mare!

10-21-2016, 11:33 AM	#26
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	I don't know if the measurements thing is a way to influence outcomes (though it certainly COULD be used that way), but I do wonder if there's been an effort to eliminate them to 1) move things along a bit and 2) recognize that ball placement isn't the most accurate thing to begin with, and there's no need to scrutinize it (replay) as often, showing how inaccurate it can be. Better to just gloss over things, award the first down, and move the game along. Better for offense anyway. __________________ null Last edited by cuervo72 : 10-21-2016 at 11:33 AM.

10-21-2016, 11:36 AM	#27
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I can see that. Measurements always seemed silly anyway. They're doing an exact measurement for a ball and a stick that were placed as an eyeball judgment call in the first place. Plus you can easily see if a ball is across the line in 99% of situations. (Maybe it's tougher at field-level, I don't know). And it seemed like coaches were traditionally requesting measurements as a way to take an uncharged time-out, maybe the refs have just cut back on granting those requests. I also wonder if people are just looking for things to support a conspiracy. Is there actual data or a league statement about cutting back on measurements? Last edited by molson : 10-21-2016 at 11:38 AM.

10-23-2016, 09:09 AM	#29
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	I think we're seeing the difference between spending the week in London and only flying in on Friday when it's a 5 time zone difference.

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Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Josh Brown needs to be suspended for life and I said the same about Ray Rice. There shouldn't be any tolerance for domestic violence. Brown only got a slap on the wrist because he is white.

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CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	That Tavon Austin contract looks better every day. How is it possible for Goff to be worse than Keenum? Last edited by CrescentMoonie : 10-23-2016 at 09:55 AM.

10-23-2016, 12:32 PM	#33
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	5 turnovers already in the vikings-eagles game wtf.

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CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Matt Jones better spend the rest of the day collecting splinters.

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CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Kevin Hogan in at QB for Cleveland. That's 6 people who have taken QB snaps for the Browns this season.

10-23-2016, 01:34 PM	#36
frnk55 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2006	Can someone explain to me how youtube live can show nfl games? Cubs game last night too. I don't get it.

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CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Redskins have multiple first downs on all 7 drives today. Cousins has 0 INTs. They have 3 points.

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10-23-2016, 03:02 PM	#46
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Redskins made too many mistakes early. Out gained Detroit 415-344, had the ball for 34:56, but two early fumbles and a missed FG were the difference.

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