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Old Yesterday, 11:09 AM   #1051
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I never read it as $2600 but donít follow it that close. Did anyone actually ever say an additional $2000?

I was not ever eligible for these but when I heard it I knew it meant a total of 2000 (1400+600).
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Old Yesterday, 11:09 AM   #1052
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What is the downside to making the checks $2000? I am guessing a lot of people could use it.
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Old Yesterday, 11:11 AM   #1053
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What is the downside to making the checks $2000? I am guessing a lot of people could use it.

Shit I would say give them $3000. We just printing money in this country since at least 2001 so what the hell.
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Old Yesterday, 11:54 AM   #1054
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What is the downside to making the checks $2000? I am guessing a lot of people could use it.

We're not saying there's a downside to $2000, but criticizing the ridiculous idea that the $1400 is a betrayal of what was promised.
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Old Yesterday, 12:04 PM   #1055
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Honestly, the fact that it's not $1,425 proves that Dems hate America. Imagine ripping $25 from the pockets of Americans in need. So petty.
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Old Yesterday, 12:13 PM   #1056
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The downside to 2000 is probably that Manchin would say no.

Take the win. Shitting all over this will only make it more likely that the Dems have less ability to do things in the future. 70% of what you want is a lot better than 0%.
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Old Yesterday, 12:21 PM   #1057
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The downside to 2000 is probably that Manchin would say no.

Take the win. Shitting all over this will only make it more likely that the Dems have less ability to do things in the future. 70% of what you want is a lot better than 0%.

And it's how we end up with the GOP back in power in 2024. "The GOP gave me 0% of what I wanted last time they were in power and the Dems gave me 70% so I'm going to vote GOP."
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Old Yesterday, 12:26 PM   #1058
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The downside to 2000 is probably that Manchin would say no.

Take the win. Shitting all over this will only make it more likely that the Dems have less ability to do things in the future. 70% of what you want is a lot better than 0%.

it isn't 70% of what you want...it's 2000...which they were fighting for all along...ans in the future...they will fight again for more
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Old Yesterday, 12:30 PM   #1059
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It will be perfect if Rubio loses a primary to Ivanka.
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Old Yesterday, 12:58 PM   #1060
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but it doesn't say additional 2K, it says 2K. So $600 and $1400 equaling 2K. I honestly don't see how this can be read any other way

It's like a car salesman, "no, sorry I wasn't clear, I didn't mean that, I meant this".

The $600 was passed in Dec. In Jan, there were still $2,000 being dandied around to GA voters. Biden should have said "I'm for $2,000 total" or similar to make that clear. I am unaware if he ever made that distinction (and I like to think I was paying attention to the GA senate races).

I'm personally okay with either and my preference is a more targeted stimulus check; take the difference and make it even bigger for those that really need it. What I am saying Biden and team did a poor job of not spelling it out and leaving some room for doubt.
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Old Yesterday, 01:37 PM   #1061
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I remember reading how there would be separate payments for $1,400 if it passed. Some people are still waiting on the last $600, or were as of last week at least. The brief debate was between $600 and $2,000. Biden and the Georgia Dem Senate candidates were on the $2,000 side.

I'm still not convinced we'll even get $1,400. That wouldn't make me regret my vote or change any of my elation about having a new president. But we'll have to remember again that the U.S. presidency is not a dictatorship, despite the experience of the last 4 years, things can't be accomplished by waving a magic wand.

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Old Yesterday, 03:27 PM   #1062
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Old Yesterday, 05:02 PM   #1063
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Why didn't we have a plan in place to roll out the national guard to set up triage units to administer the vaccine. coordinate with FEMA, CDC, FDA, etc...and have plans in place months in advance.

This vaccine roll out has nothing to do with Trump being told no and everything to do with his administration being a total unorganized shit show.

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Old Yesterday, 05:13 PM   #1064
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I wonder if I get 2000 for my college aged students that I claim?
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Old Yesterday, 06:56 PM   #1065
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Fast forward to when COVID is finally under control due to these new proactive actions and following science, the MAGA crowd will say itís all because Dear Leader single handedly built the vaccine.
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Old Yesterday, 07:07 PM   #1066
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If they pass this, yes tarcone. That is one of things this fixes. Adult dependants will get full $2000.

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Old Yesterday, 10:34 PM   #1067
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If they pass this, yes tarcone. That is one of things this fixes. Adult dependants will get full $2000.

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Oh, didn't realize this. Good to know.

I'm still waiting on my $600 checks. Just checked the website and nothing.

In fact, I'm still waiting on my 2019 tax refund. It just says "in progress".
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Old Yesterday, 10:53 PM   #1068
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So Biden wants to rejoin the Paris Agreement.

I never understood why this is good for the US. If we want to cut our emissions, then enact laws to cut them. But the "agreement" forces us to spend billions of dollars on other countries, cash that we have to borrow.
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Old Today, 01:58 AM   #1069
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Because Climate Change is a global issue and the Gleen Climate Fund of the Paris Agreement is used to help developing countries in adaptation and mitigation - and to entice them to industrialize using green energy rather than fossil fuels (which at the moment is far cheaper than green energy).

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