2015 NFL Divisional Round Thread - Page 10

Abe Sargent · 01-11-2015, 06:32 PM

And that would have been three picks by Peyton

NobodyHere · 01-11-2015, 06:32 PM

Awwww, Davis

Catch that man!

Buccaneer · 01-11-2015, 06:33 PM

That was a nice drive by the Colts. I had said this earlier but I look forward to great things from Luck and the Colts over the next 10 years or so, hopefully.

ColtCrazy · 01-11-2015, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

um.. this is exactly what Peyton does every January

11th best passer rating of all time in the playoffs. Many of Manning's playoff losses had nothing to do with Manning.

BillJasper · 01-11-2015, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

um.. this is exactly what Peyton does every January

Something seems different this time.

NobodyHere · 01-11-2015, 06:34 PM

TACKLE!

bhlloy · 01-11-2015, 06:34 PM

First down. Terrible spot

Abe Sargent · 01-11-2015, 06:35 PM

Might as well challenge this

bhlloy · 01-11-2015, 06:35 PM

Let's bring in Mike Carey to tell us what the call won't end up being

ColtCrazy · 01-11-2015, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

That was a nice drive by the Colts. I had said this earlier but I look forward to great things from Luck and the Colts over the next 10 years or so, hopefully.

Me too. I would tend to agree with the ESPN article that compared Luck to more of a Favre than the second coming on Manning. Would tend to agree, he's got a cannon arm and the belief any throw is possible. Yet I think he's got his own sense of intelligence and leadership that make him unique. Glad to have him.

ColtCrazy · 01-11-2015, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Let's bring in Mike Carey to tell us what the call won't end up being

If Pereira and Carey have open bidding to see which company gets them, how much more do you pay Pereira?

stevew · 01-11-2015, 06:37 PM

Last pass of Peyton's career?

bulletsponge · 01-11-2015, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

11th best passer rating of all time in the playoffs. Many of Manning's playoff losses had nothing to do with Manning.

yes, but his team always goes out on a bad offensive outing

BillJasper · 01-11-2015, 06:38 PM

Wonder if teams begin to back off of Adam Gase after this offensive meltdown?

kingfc22 · 01-11-2015, 06:38 PM

Peyton one and done again.

Buccaneer · 01-11-2015, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

Me too. I would tend to agree with the ESPN article that compared Luck to more of a Favre than the second coming on Manning. Would tend to agree, he's got a cannon arm and the belief any throw is possible. Yet I think he's got his own sense of intelligence and leadership that make him unique. Glad to have him.

I bristle at comparing Luck to Favre but then I know that Luck can force throws and he does need to cut down on INTs.

NobodyHere · 01-11-2015, 06:40 PM

If only Robert Mathis was healthy for the Colts.

RainMaker · 01-11-2015, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

11th best passer rating of all time in the playoffs. Many of Manning's playoff losses had nothing to do with Manning.

That'll drop after tonight's game. I mean he's still good, but hasn't been great in the playoffs. He's right in the mix of the other good modern day QBs. Not up there with Rodgers and Brees though.

RainMaker · 01-11-2015, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I bristle at comparing Luck to Favre but then I know that Luck can force throws and he does need to cut down on INTs.

I thought both picks today were basically punts. They were both shots on 3rd and long that didn't hurt the Colts. Teams should do that more often.

bulletsponge · 01-11-2015, 06:42 PM

Luck is IMO a smarter Farve. if Indy can build a well rounded team around him he could win 3+ superbowls. but Indy never built a rounded team around Manning so i wouldnt count on it happening

ColtCrazy · 01-11-2015, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I bristle at comparing Luck to Favre but then I know that Luck can force throws and he does need to cut down on INTs.

He didn't last week and just looked like a great quarterback. Today he's forced a couple deep but overall has played pretty well. The key is getting a running game that can help. Luck has yet to throw less than 40 passes in any playoff game.

ColtCrazy · 01-11-2015, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

Luck is IMO a smarter Farve. if Indy can build a well rounded team around him he could win 3+ superbowls. but Indy never built a rounded team around Manning so i wouldnt count on it happening

I think that will be the difference between Grigson and Polian. Polian banked on Manning getting leads and winning with edge rushers. Grigson has gone out to get corners, lineman, etc. to build a complete team. He did whiff on Richardson, but Grigson overall has made some smart moves (Josh Freeman, Arthur Jones, etc)

bhlloy · 01-11-2015, 06:46 PM

Now this is some bad play calling - but what else can you do when Peyton can't throw more than 15 yards downfield today

Abe Sargent · 01-11-2015, 06:48 PM

Game, set, Colts

NobodyHere · 01-11-2015, 06:48 PM

I'll admit, I didn't think the Colts would win this one, unless Peyton reverted to early career playoff form.

cthomer5000 · 01-11-2015, 06:48 PM

Hey guys... make sure you keep getting tackled in bounds.

stevew · 01-11-2015, 06:50 PM

Luck is really young to be balding

BillJasper · 01-11-2015, 06:51 PM

I'm of two minds, I hate to see Manning leave the game on this note but it seems obvious that his skills have declined.

NobodyHere · 01-11-2015, 06:52 PM

For a guy on the decline, throwing for over 4700 yards in a season is pretty damn good.

Danny · 01-11-2015, 06:54 PM

Something definitely happens the last 6 weeks physically with him. His arm had no juice at all on any throws and his accuracy dwindled

BillJasper · 01-11-2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

For a guy on the decline, throwing for over 4700 yards in a season is pretty damn good.

Yeah, I agree. But most of that comes from screens and pick plays. Once a defense concentrated and took those away, Manning didn't have the arm strength and accuracy to win by going over the top.

Lathum · 01-11-2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

For a guy on the decline, throwing for over 4700 yards in a season is pretty damn good.

Anyone who says that hasn't watched his last 6 games. It is obvious he has lost a lot. Seemingly happened overnight.

BillJasper · 01-11-2015, 06:57 PM

Manning averaged 4.2 yards per pass attempt today.

Danny · 01-11-2015, 06:58 PM

Unless there was some injury that happened that can heal I think he needs to retire

stevew · 01-11-2015, 06:59 PM

I was hoping they'd have to bring Ostweiler in to throw a hail Mary.

BillJasper · 01-11-2015, 07:01 PM

I'm just wondering if the Broncos would truly be that bad off if they turned it over to another QB, with Anderson, Thomas, Thomas, Sanders and Welker at the skill positions?

Buccaneer · 01-11-2015, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

That'll drop after tonight's game. I mean he's still good, but hasn't been great in the playoffs. He's right in the mix of the other good modern day QBs. Not up there with Rodgers and Brees though.

Which would be put him in the third group if compared to Brees and Rodgers (with 6 wins and a little above .500). Flacco, Ben and Eli would be in the second tier and then we have Brady.

NobodyHere · 01-11-2015, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

I'm just wondering if the Broncos would truly be that bad off if they turned it over to another QB, with Anderson, Thomas, Thomas, Sanders and Welker at the skill positions?

Hard to say, Peyton has a habit of making the people around them look better than they truly are.

ColtCrazy · 01-11-2015, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

I'm of two minds, I hate to see Manning leave the game on this note but it seems obvious that his skills have declined.

Hate to say it but I agree. When a QB hits that wall, they tend to hit it hard. Favre had his great year and completely fell apart the year after.

I'm with the others that said they didn't think the Colts could do it. New England is a bigger test. Maybe Brady isn't what he used to be, but he's not quite a shell of his former self either. A Belichick will have something up his sleeve

ColtCrazy · 01-11-2015, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

I'm just wondering if the Broncos would truly be that bad off if they turned it over to another QB, with Anderson, Thomas, Thomas, Sanders and Welker at the skill positions?

I think Welker declined a little this year, but there's definitely a solid core in Denver. Can Ostweiler step in and take over though? I think Manning stays one more year, but Denver needs to take a page out of the last Elway years and go run heavy and allow Manning's play action ability to shine. I think he can still win, but he can't be the 40+ playoff passer anymore.

RainMaker · 01-11-2015, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

For a guy on the decline, throwing for over 4700 yards in a season is pretty damn good.

He is the greatest regular season QB of all time. Don't think that can be disputed.

BillJasper · 01-11-2015, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

...but he can't be the 40+ playoff passer anymore.

I think arm strength is a huge question here though. If he doesn't have the arm strength to go deep, defenses are simply going to flood that fifteen yard area from the line of scrimmage.

Buccaneer · 01-11-2015, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

He is the greatest regular season QB of all time. Don't think that can be disputed.

By what criteria??

Thomkal · 01-11-2015, 07:17 PM

Well if that was Peyton's last game, I suppose it would be appropriate its against the Colts. I think the weather has certainly affected him some of these last few games though.

Happy the Colts won though if for no other reason than we are spared the enormous amount of hype and replays of past Peyton/Brady matchups. Hope they keep it going for one more game and take out New England too.

BillJasper · 01-11-2015, 07:19 PM

I do think the NFL needs to look at the going to the ground rule. Bryant had control of the football for five yards.

It just seems insane that it wasn't a catch.

BillJasper · 01-11-2015, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

By what criteria??

530 TD passes.

Buccaneer · 01-11-2015, 07:20 PM

This is interesting to me

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The 40-degree temperature at kickoff actually fell in Luck's favor - he's 5-1 in games 40 and cooler, while Manning is 12-14 in such situations.

Buccaneer · 01-11-2015, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

530 TD passes.

That's it?

BillJasper · 01-11-2015, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

That's it?

That would be a big one. He also has a 179-77 regular season record as a QB.

BillJasper · 01-11-2015, 07:34 PM

I think whoever wins the AFC next week is just serving as chum for the Seahawks.

01-11-2015, 06:32 PM	#451
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	And that would have been three picks by Peyton __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

01-11-2015, 06:32 PM	#452
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Awwww, Davis Catch that man! __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

01-11-2015, 06:34 PM	#456
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	TACKLE! __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

01-11-2015, 06:35 PM	#458
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Might as well challenge this __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

01-11-2015, 06:38 PM	#464
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Wonder if teams begin to back off of Adam Gase after this offensive meltdown? __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

01-11-2015, 06:33 PM	#453
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	That was a nice drive by the Colts. I had said this earlier but I look forward to great things from Luck and the Colts over the next 10 years or so, hopefully.

01-11-2015, 06:34 PM	#457
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	First down. Terrible spot

01-11-2015, 06:35 PM	#459
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Let's bring in Mike Carey to tell us what the call won't end up being

01-11-2015, 06:37 PM	#462
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Last pass of Peyton's career?

01-11-2015, 06:38 PM	#465
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Peyton one and done again. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-11-2015, 06:40 PM	#467
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	If only Robert Mathis was healthy for the Colts. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

01-11-2015, 06:42 PM	#470
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	Luck is IMO a smarter Farve. if Indy can build a well rounded team around him he could win 3+ superbowls. but Indy never built a rounded team around Manning so i wouldnt count on it happening __________________ the Barbarian, WW Royal Rumble Champion

01-11-2015, 06:46 PM	#473
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Now this is some bad play calling - but what else can you do when Peyton can't throw more than 15 yards downfield today

01-11-2015, 06:48 PM	#474
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Game, set, Colts __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

01-11-2015, 06:48 PM	#475
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	I'll admit, I didn't think the Colts would win this one, unless Peyton reverted to early career playoff form. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

01-11-2015, 06:50 PM	#477
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Luck is really young to be balding

01-11-2015, 06:51 PM	#478
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I'm of two minds, I hate to see Manning leave the game on this note but it seems obvious that his skills have declined. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

01-11-2015, 06:52 PM	#479
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	For a guy on the decline, throwing for over 4700 yards in a season is pretty damn good. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

01-11-2015, 06:54 PM	#480
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Something definitely happens the last 6 weeks physically with him. His arm had no juice at all on any throws and his accuracy dwindled

01-11-2015, 06:57 PM	#483
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Manning averaged 4.2 yards per pass attempt today. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

01-11-2015, 06:58 PM	#484
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Unless there was some injury that happened that can heal I think he needs to retire

01-11-2015, 06:59 PM	#485
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I was hoping they'd have to bring Ostweiler in to throw a hail Mary.

01-11-2015, 07:01 PM	#486
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I'm just wondering if the Broncos would truly be that bad off if they turned it over to another QB, with Anderson, Thomas, Thomas, Sanders and Welker at the skill positions? __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

01-11-2015, 07:17 PM	#494
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Well if that was Peyton's last game, I suppose it would be appropriate its against the Colts. I think the weather has certainly affected him some of these last few games though. Happy the Colts won though if for no other reason than we are spared the enormous amount of hype and replays of past Peyton/Brady matchups. Hope they keep it going for one more game and take out New England too.

01-11-2015, 07:19 PM	#495
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I do think the NFL needs to look at the going to the ground rule. Bryant had control of the football for five yards. It just seems insane that it wasn't a catch. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

01-11-2015, 07:34 PM	#500
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I think whoever wins the AFC next week is just serving as chum for the Seahawks. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

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