2015 NFL Week 1

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Suh did something again?

Kicked Alfred Morris in the head.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Packers coach defends 'kick Chicago's ass' comment | Chicago Sun-Times



As usual some people talked up the comments to be the dreaded bulletin board that would propel the Bears to the win. During the game, Buck decided to castigate those people.

Sounds like Buck was right.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by JAG

That was what Dallas did on offense all last year. Not entirely sure what the logic is, but possibly protecting the defense or allowing Romo more time to dissect what is being done defensively.

Last year Dallas had a physical dude who would wear teams out. I don't see that this year. I'm not saying they should play like the Eagles, but they damned well shouldn't play like they are in quick sand either.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Too bad for his domestic-violence-loving ass.

Yeah, I'm all broken up inside too.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Logan

Sounds like Buck was right.

+1

Not sure why Buck deserves the vitriol in this situation.

[BillJasper]

I bet Cleveland will be sitting on the slant routes in week 2!

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Cowboys-Giants games are always entertaining...I'm expecting a Cowboys win Sunday night, but it'll probably be close.

Called it.

[dubb93]

Rashad Jennings says that someone told him not to score at the end of the game to let the clock run. Eli also came out and said he thought that the Cowboys were out of timeouts before they really were and the clock stop on the penalty really confused him.

What are the odds that Eli told Jennings not to score? If so...wow. He REALLY blew that game.

[BillJasper]

Listening to the talking heads tell me how great the Cowboys are. But let's be real, this game should have never ever been close, that Giant defense is pretty atrocious. The Cowboys, on a night they clearly weren't in sync most of, rolled up 436 yards of offense.

The Giants offense, is almost as bad as the defense.

[TroyF]

I forgot about posting this last night, but reading football outsiders made me remember.

How on earth is the kick that started overtime not a 15 yard penalty on the Seahawks? Once you call it a valid fair catch, the guy who made the fair catch was drilled by two Seattle players.

That has to be a 15 yard penalty there.

The announcers were patting the refs on the back talking about how great it was they made the right call and I was losing my mind. No, they didn't make the right call. I know, it's an odd, confusing play. That still should have been called correctly.

[cartman]

The kick hit the turf to make it bounce up in the air, therefore you can't call for a fair catch.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Rashad Jennings says that someone told him not to score at the end of the game to let the clock run. Eli also came out and said he thought that the Cowboys were out of timeouts before they really were and the clock stop on the penalty really confused him.

What are the odds that Eli told Jennings not to score? If so...wow. He REALLY blew that game.

Why did the clock stop on the penalty? It was after the play when the clock was running. Shouldn't the clock have been wound when they placed the ball?

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by cartman

The kick hit the turf to make it bounce up in the air, therefore you can't call for a fair catch.

Ball never hit the turf.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Why did the clock stop on the penalty? It was after the play when the clock was running. Shouldn't the clock have been wound when they placed the ball?

It was less than 5 minutes left in the 2nd half, so that's why the clock didn't restart.

NFL Rules Digest: Timing

With the exception of the last two minutes of the first half and the last five minutes of the second half, the game clock will be restarted following a kickoff return, a player going out of bounds on a play from scrimmage, or after declined penalties when appropriate on the referee’s signal

[cartman]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

Ball never hit the turf.

It hit immediately after he kicked it. You can see him it the top of the ball to make it get a bounce off of the turf right in front of the tee.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by cartman

It was less than 5 minutes left in the 2nd half, so that's why the clock didn't restart.

NFL Rules Digest: Timing

Doesn't apply to the quote.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Doesn't apply to the quote.

You asked why the clock stopped on the penalty. That was the reason why.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by cartman

It hit immediately after he kicked it. You can see him it the top of the ball to make it get a bounce off of the turf right in front of the tee.

There is a much better angle. It doesn't hit the turf. Though the fair catch signal was a bit questionable, I have seen signals like that being called invalid in the past on punts.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

There is a much better angle. It doesn't hit the turf. Though the fair catch signal was a bit questionable, I have seen signals like that being called invalid in the past on punts.

Yeah, I saw another angle that was much clearer. I rescind my previous statement of it hitting the turf first.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by TroyF

How on earth is the kick that started overtime not a 15 yard penalty on the Seahawks? Once you call it a valid fair catch, the guy who made the fair catch was drilled by two Seattle players.

That has to be a 15 yard penalty there.

I was wondering that too, Troy. They just drill the guy laying on the ground with no call.

Chalk that whole sequence up to just Triplette being Triplette.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Chalk that whole sequence up to just Triplette being Triplette.

He is just the worst.

[Butter]

Relevant.

[whomario]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

There is a much better angle. It doesn't hit the turf. Though the fair catch signal was a bit questionable, I have seen signals like that being called invalid in the past on punts.

Edit: might still be of Service to some, so i will simply leave the gif

[SirFozzie]

So the LOL Giants gets worse as the RB said he was told not to score on first or second down, because the Giants misread the amount of timeouts the Cowboys had.

It doesn't say why the Giants gave the Cowboys ANOTHER clock stoppage with the pass on third down.

[Solecismic]

The time out thing is interesting, because it allowed the Cowboys to benefit from a declined offsides call on the first-down pass to the 2. Without that, we don't even have this discussion. I can see why the Giants assumed the Cowboys were out of time outs.

The rules are specific - the clock stops. What's interesting in this case is that it sets up a situation where the defense should always commit a foul when the offense gets a first down and the clock is more important than the scoreboard.

I think the rules should be changed in this instance, but it was apparently called correctly.

Coughlin should have stopped smacking his gum long enough to know the rules better than I do and realize that the field goal was of limited value and that 40 seconds was everything.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Logan

Sounds like Buck was right.

Just my reaction to Buck tell people that it was not a big deal given the rivalry but losing his mind over the Randy Moss fake mooning incident.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Just my reaction to Buck tell people that it was not a big deal given the rivalry but losing his mind over the Randy Moss fake mooning incident.

You might be reaching abit.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

You might be reaching abit.

You are probably right. I have held that incident against Buck ever since.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

You might be reaching abit.

I think he's cool with that reference until we officially reach the 11th anniversary of that incident. After that though, he needs to cut him some slack.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

There is a much better angle. It doesn't hit the turf. Though the fair catch signal was a bit questionable, I have seen signals like that being called invalid in the past on punts.

I agree with the last line. . . but they didn't call him for an invalid fair catch signal. They originally called that when they thought the ball hit the ground. They then waived off the flag. They SAW the fair catch signal because they made the original invalid call.

If they thought it was invalid, they should have stuck with their original penalty. If they believed it to be valid, two Seahawks who hit him should have caused a 15 yard roughness penalty.

I agree, it's Trippliet being Tripplit, but damn that was some bad reffing on that play.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

The time out thing is interesting, because it allowed the Cowboys to benefit from a declined offsides call on the first-down pass to the 2. Without that, we don't even have this discussion. I can see why the Giants assumed the Cowboys were out of time outs.

The rules are specific - the clock stops. What's interesting in this case is that it sets up a situation where the defense should always commit a foul when the offense gets a first down and the clock is more important than the scoreboard.

I think the rules should be changed in this instance, but it was apparently called correctly.

Coughlin should have stopped smacking his gum long enough to know the rules better than I do and realize that the field goal was of limited value and that 40 seconds was everything.

The entire sequence was strange.

I HATE kicking the FG on 4th and 1. HATE it. Run the ball and try to end it right there. You miss, Dallas still has to go 70 yards, but that's just to kick a FG to tie it up. You'll have a chance to win in OT.

The entire sequence of events is unacceptable even if they were confused about the rules a little bit.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by TroyF

The entire sequence was strange.

I HATE kicking the FG on 4th and 1. HATE it. Run the ball and try to end it right there. You miss, Dallas still has to go 70 yards, but that's just to kick a FG to tie it up. You'll have a chance to win in OT.

The entire sequence of events is unacceptable even if they were confused about the rules a little bit.

Not even just those plays but the whole drive they weren't bleeding the clock before the snap. On that play with the three stooges routine with the clock they ended up snapping it with something like 17 seconds left on the play clock. That is seriously on Eli there. I would think even a rookie would know that you run the clock down another 15 seconds there.

[JPhillips]

So now Eli is saying that he told Jennings not to score so that they wouldn't give the ball back to the Cowboys.

With less than two minutes left.

And up ten points.

WTF?

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I wanted the Dolphins to take Melvin Gordon.

Why? Lamar Miller seems quite good to me, DeVante Parker looked great in preseason, and coming away with him and Jay Ajayi in the 5th is much better value than any 1st-round RB.

Originally Posted by whomario

If we accept that Hauschka was trying to squib kick it (and it doesn't really look like it from these angles), was Seattle squib kicking all game, that terrified of Tavon Austin, or just choosing that time to make a dumb decision?

[EagleFan]

What a catch for the interception.

[stevew]

Seattle apparently miss hit the kickoff. AKA he "biffed" if.

[stevew]

I can't tell if the Seattle guys were even looking for the ball. My first thought is no. But onsiding suprise style on the OT start would seem to be a pretty good strategy if you can hold opponent to a FG(obviously). Would likely increase your chances of a tie or win by giving you the bulk of the OT clock.

[Thomkal]

And Cardinal nation breathes a sigh of relief-Ellington not seriously hurt-out 1-2 weeks. It sure would be nice if they could keep a RB healthy for a whole season though,

[CU Tiger]

Little Bit hasnt been healthy a whole year since Junior High....but he is a damn good guy

[bhlloy]

Hands up who had the Rams winning that QB trade after week 1? Bradford looks pretty bad so far.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

If we accept that Hauschka was trying to squib kick it (and it doesn't really look like it from these angles), was Seattle squib kicking all game, that terrified of Tavon Austin, or just choosing that time to make a dumb decision?

He said shortly afterwards that he just flat missed it, totally borked the kick.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I don't understand why it was so terrible a decision to make the onside kick - doesn't that count as St. Louis's possession for the OT if the Seahawks recover? With a stout defense, I really like that call.

[Buccaneer]

My son is having a really good fantasy week:
QB Rodgers
RB Hyde
RB Abdullah
WR Jones
WR Edelmann
TE Gronk
TE Maclin
D Seattle
K Gotkowski

[Warhammer]

How in the world does Tripplett still have a job?

I'm with TroyF, once that flag is thrown, it's one call or the other.

[Glengoyne]

Originally Posted by dubb93

There appears to be video of Pac Man Jones ripping off Amari Coopers helmet while he was on top of him in the "mount" position as MMA would call it. He then sat the helmet down and rammed Cooper's head into it.

I didn't see that game today. Was it flagged on the field?

Originally Posted by bob

Pacman Jones Rips Amari Cooper's Helmet Off, Slams His Head Into It

Yes, flagged

Originally Posted by TroyF

But no ejection

That should be an automatic suspension. I'd say it should go 4 games or more, but as I don't think the NFL has a policy on how long they can suspend someone for on field violence, it'll get overturned in court if they don't just fine him 25k.

I'm not sure that this one would get overturned. It is more closely related to Ray Rice than Tom Brady. The offense was right there on video, as opposed to dreamed up by the commissioner.

I'm actually hoping that the referees face some consequences for not ejecting him.

[miami_fan]

That field goal attempt was the least confident play call Chip Kelly made all night.

[EagleFan]

Big time defensive stop. Guess I don't need any nails left.

[BillJasper]

Forty-niners look like bloody turds out there.

[cuervo72]

The heck is wrong with Berman's voice?

[JonInMiddleGA]

I don't normally care much for alternate jerseys, the tweeted pic of the Niners new ones that I saw looked pretty sharp IMO