Werewolf LXX Pleasure Cruise - (GAME OVER) - Page 21

hoopsguy · 04-09-2008, 10:01 PM

Pass, I figure you would have a good head for patterns.

hoopsguy · 04-09-2008, 10:02 PM

I've now met my duties, so I'll abandon this style of posting.

Passacaglia · 04-09-2008, 10:02 PM

Just keep posting, and you'll be fine?

Passacaglia · 04-09-2008, 10:02 PM

Well never mind, then!

TazFTW · 04-09-2008, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

This is probably obvious to others, but I just realized that Sonic Youth was not voted off, but was "night killed" or "day killed" or "crew killed" or something during our Day 3 phase.

At the end of voting for turn two (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...23#post1702323), the Captain declined to throw anyone off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rules

The allegiance of each player is announced at their death. How they died or what roles or actions that they may or may not have posessed will not be announced, but might be learned by someone's actions during the game.

I'm not sure if it was a kill
It could have been a wrong choice or he found something illegal
We would have been told if he had ill will
Are there any gun shops in town? I need a Desert Eagle.

hoopsguy · 04-09-2008, 10:03 PM

OK, moving ahead with info. I would love it if others would follow suit:

Day 0: shopping, pottery, no results of interest
Day 1: stayed on boat on account of being dumb WW player
Day 2: turtles, helped teacher

Passacaglia · 04-09-2008, 10:04 PM

Weird. So the pattern stopped at 11?

hoopsguy · 04-09-2008, 10:04 PM

Quote:

1) The Jackal
2) Nfg22
3) Path12
4) jeheinz72
5) Barkeep49 - Did not return to boat Turn 3
7) Lathum
8) claphasma
9) Passacaglia
10) St.Cronin
11) Hoopsguy
12) PurdueBrad - Did not return to boat Turn 3
13) Raiders Army
14) oliegirl
15) Sonic Youth - Removed from boat by Police Turn 3
16) ntndeacon
17) mccollins
18) Chief Rum
19) Qwikshot
20) TazFTW
21) Anxiety
6) Swaggs
22) Kwhit

This support Taz's idea.

Now there is a guy working hard with his posting rules. Bravo, dude.

Passacaglia · 04-09-2008, 10:05 PM

Day 0: Mayan ruins, saw no one
Day 1: snorkeling, say claphamsa and The Jackal
Day 2: Conch Shell House, saw KWhit

no responses needed for any of those (KWhit, did you have any from the Conch Shell House?)

hoopsguy · 04-09-2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Weird. So the pattern stopped at 11?

Ten, actually. I did the last two just out of semi-amusement. Kind of like a posting version of Stockholm Syndrome.

mccollins · 04-09-2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

This support Taz's idea.

Now there is a guy working hard with his posting rules. Bravo, dude.

Indeed! Excellent catch! See everyone tomorrow!

Passacaglia · 04-09-2008, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

I'm not sure who Blade or Bek are, but I'll say I'm missing blade too!

Seeing "bek" and "blade too" in the same sentence made me laugh.

Abe Sargent · 04-09-2008, 10:13 PM

I have half an item. The business half. Am looking for the bottom half. LMK if you know what I'm talking about and let's see if we can hook something up.

Abe Sargent · 04-09-2008, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

A reminder that civility is expected at all time between players.

~Barkeep49, Your Friendly Werewolf Moderator

Good job BK

nfg22 · 04-09-2008, 10:17 PM

Anxiety I may have given it to Oliegirl. What you say sounds to maybe fit mine. I hope Oliegirl can clarify for us soon.

Abe Sargent · 04-09-2008, 10:42 PM

Wow Lathum passed Claphamsa as the most talkative in this game thus far.

Chief Rum · 04-10-2008, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfg22

CR im glad you manage just fine but I do not have a job where I can post from work...at all. I also leave at 6 in the morning. The three oclock deadline is hard for me. When I left for work I didnt think anyone needed to be voted for since there was no penalty. But hey vote for me if you wish. I work all nights next month so Ill be better at the next WW.

nfg, you should know by now that I can't post from work either...at all. And I leave by 4 in the morning. I also walked through ten miles of blizzard snow every day to get to school when I was a youngin'.

Just saying, if I can do it...but anyway, I didn't even vote for you, what are you worried about?

Chief Rum · 04-10-2008, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

This seems so weird to me, who has a strong voting record at this point? Isn't everybody's voting record basically the same?

Well, no one at that point has a "strong" voting record, but certainly people can establish "suspicious" voting records in even a short time. When there is little information to go on, sometimes you just have to act on what little information there is.

Chief Rum · 04-10-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I believe the premise is that nothing is random, which is slightly different than how I think you've been thinking about the game.

I don't see statement A and statement B as being in disagreement here, assuming your statement B is referring to the opinions hoops expresses in the quote you quoted. Nothing he says suggests he believes randomness is part of his view of the game.

ntndeacon · 04-10-2008, 01:03 AM

I am not going to be able to do much tomorrow during the day, So I will put in my vote now. We now have three that have missed the boat. we need to find out if that is a sign of Wolfiness. so I will vote for the only one of the 3 currently on the vote.
Vote Path

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2008, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I am not going to be able to do much tomorrow during the day, So I will put in my vote now. We now have three that have missed the boat. we need to find out if that is a sign of Wolfiness. so I will vote for the only one of the 3 currently on the vote.
Vote Path

I sincerely doubt that any GM, much less an experienced one like AlanT, would err like that. Putting the new wolves into your posts to the thread is akin to taking stupid pills.

Chief Rum · 04-10-2008, 01:38 AM

Hmm, there doesn't seem to be much else for me to say that hasn't already been said. I tried to go snorkeling at the shipwreck (popular place), and was told I couldn't go (sounds like what Lathum got). As I didn't put down another option, I simply returned to the boat.

I think we need to form a consensus on who to vote for to ensure a lynch. I think we have to assume at least majority. I don't want to miss another day betting on Barkeep's 40%.

Sonic Youth is off the boat. The next two vote getters were jeheinz and st.cronin. I'm still not ready to vote for jeheinz, so I am going to go with st.cronin, in the hope that enough of us will vote to ensure a lynch.

I don't really have a reason to vote for st.cronin or to not vote for him, but the fact others might is enough to sway me to throw my vote there. Since, again, I will not be around for the first deadline, I won't be able to react and change to voting trends, I am afraid.

VOTE ST.CRONIN

TazFTW · 04-10-2008, 05:10 AM

Quote:

- Explore the ruins of the ancient Mayan city of Tul'um
- Chankanaab National Marine Park
- Sit back and relax in the white sand of Playa Mia Beach
- Take a Jeep Safari adventure through the tropical landscape of Cozumel's east side.
- Join the Fiesta party boat for a fun-filled trip to Playa del Sol with margaritas, rum punch and a live band
- Snorkel in the clear sapphire-colored water around Cozumel's coral reefs.
-Go shopping in Cozumel, which is regarded as the "St.Thomas of the Western Caribbean." Find great prices on diamonds, colored gemstones, jewelry, watches, gold, silver or even Oriental Rugs. You can also find mexican housewares or various local crafts.

Quote:

- Snorkle with stingrays at Stingray City Sandbar
- Stop at the Conch Shell House, constructed entirely of the trumpet shells of the mollusk
- Visit the Tutle Farm, an interactive sea-turtle nursery where green and hawksbill turtles are bred and raised.
- Paddle along Grand Cayman's world-renowned Seven-Mile Beach on a kayaking adventure
- Experience a bird's-eye perspective of Grand Cayman on an exciting flightseeing tour.
- Explore a historic shipwreck while snorkeling the beautiful Cayman waters.
- Go shopping in George Town and see why Grand Cayman is humorously referred to as "Brand Cayman" by those savvy shoppers who know the island's reputation for fabulous prices on designer merchandise.

The two adventures have had decisions to be made
The safari trio chose to come home
The kayaking quad had to choose how fast to wade
Now barkeep and PurdueBrad are out to roam.

Qwikshot · 04-10-2008, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anxiety
I miss Blade

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lathum
I miss Bek

I'm not sure who Blade or Bek are, but I'll say I'm missing blade too!

"This discussion seems so out of the blue...so howzit that Jackal (not that kickbutt band Jackyl with a Y) managed to make it back to the boat, well, becaust I chose the moderate pace (I believe boilermaker and the bartender went slower)...I think Jackal wanted to go slower too, but I went with option 2...maybe to get back in time for margarita night...I hope they're okay...better them than me though, I'm not jungle warrior, get bitten by bugs, gnawed on by 'gators...not my bag, but I got some nice snapshots for the family when I get back home...."

Qwikshot · 04-10-2008, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

"This discussion seems so out of the blue...so howzit that Jackal (not that kickbutt band Jackyl with a Y) managed to make it back to the boat, well, becaust I chose the moderate pace (I believe boilermaker and the bartender went slower)...I think Jackal wanted to go slower too, but I went with option 2...maybe to get back in time for margarita night...I hope they're okay...better them than me though, I'm not jungle warrior, get bitten by bugs, gnawed on by 'gators...not my bag, but I got some nice snapshots for the family when I get back home...."

OOC: Upon rereading my PM...Jackal wanted to go faster than me (option 3)...guess he wanted margaritas more than me...

claphamsa · 04-10-2008, 06:27 AM

mornign all!

Raiders Army · 04-10-2008, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

"(not that kickbutt band Jackyl with a Y)"

The Lumberjack!

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 06:59 AM

So are we told someones alegiance when they are removed?

I hope so because I swore I would never play in another game where roles aren't revealed upon death.

Raiders Army · 04-10-2008, 06:59 AM

Turn 0: The Marine Park
Turn 1: The Beach
Turn 2: Flightseeing

No actions on any of them and I didn't see any other players.

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 07:00 AM

My vote will probably go to someone who was on the boat yesterday. I have class most of the day today, can anyone refreash that list for me?

Raiders Army · 04-10-2008, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

So are we told someones alegiance when they are removed?

I hope so because I swore I would never play in another game where roles aren't revealed upon death.

Maybe there is no underground yet? Maybe we're all just simple passengers...

Maybe the game is that there are no wolves. That would be crazy.

Raiders Army · 04-10-2008, 07:03 AM

This is just another shot in the dark:

VOTE SWAGGS

I can't remember much help he's been; however, this is a vote without much behind it. Regardless, I probably will not change my vote because I have a pretty busy day.

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I guess I did not learn my lesson, as I was hung over and missed the opportunity to get off of the boat today.

VOTE SWAGGS

when I said I was hung over I was just saying it in characture, there was never a choice to stay on because I was hung over, I just choose to stay.

This compunded with the fact Swaggs stayed on the boat yesterday and someone had to cut the ropes is enough to get my vote.

mccollins · 04-10-2008, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

So are we told someones alegiance when they are removed?

I hope so because I swore I would never play in another game where roles aren't revealed upon death.

Yes, Taz pointed out the rule that their role has to be revealed when they are totally out of the game.

Post #3 says that Sonic Youth has been removed by the police

Alan's message said we had to stay here to deal with legal issues.

Based on these facts, I don't think anyone is completely out of the game yet.

mccollins · 04-10-2008, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

VOTE SWAGGS

when I said I was hung over I was just saying it in characture, there was never a choice to stay on because I was hung over, I just choose to stay.

This compunded with the fact Swaggs stayed on the boat yesterday and someone had to cut the ropes is enough to get my vote.

Can someone help me out? I didn't see this story about boat ropes being cut in Alan's messages.

Was this just in Lathum's PM since he was on the boat as well and had to "fix the ropes" as he said?

hoopsguy · 04-10-2008, 08:25 AM

mccollins, I think you have it right - Lathum is the one who is talking about foiling a plot to cut the boat ropes. I didn't see anything of the sort in Alan's message.

You can choose to believe Lathum, challenge him on his story, or flat out think he is lying. But there isn't anything from Alan that I saw supporting the idea of boat ropes.

KWhit · 04-10-2008, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

Can someone help me out? I didn't see this story about boat ropes being cut in Alan's messages.

Was this just in Lathum's PM since he was on the boat as well and had to "fix the ropes" as he said?

So far, Lathum's the only one to mention anything about ropes being cut.

mccollins · 04-10-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Hmm, there doesn't seem to be much else for me to say that hasn't already been said. I tried to go snorkeling at the shipwreck (popular place), and was told I couldn't go (sounds like what Lathum got). As I didn't put down another option, I simply returned to the boat.

I think we need to form a consensus on who to vote for to ensure a lynch. I think we have to assume at least majority. I don't want to miss another day betting on Barkeep's 40%.

Sonic Youth is off the boat. The next two vote getters were jeheinz and st.cronin. I'm still not ready to vote for jeheinz, so I am going to go with st.cronin, in the hope that enough of us will vote to ensure a lynch.

I don't really have a reason to vote for st.cronin or to not vote for him, but the fact others might is enough to sway me to throw my vote there. Since, again, I will not be around for the first deadline, I won't be able to react and change to voting trends, I am afraid.

VOTE ST.CRONIN

You were on the boat during the day so I would think that you would mention the story about the ropes being cut - if it happened.

Either Lathum is making up an elaborate story (and he seemed very freaked last night that he was about to be night killed) or you or Swaggs could have been the one on the boat who cut the ropes.

Also, talking about gathering consensus to ensure a lynch sounds wolfish to me in the context of this game, but I could be hearing things.

Sidenote: ntndeacon is the only one who hasn't told where they went on their day 3 excursion, but he wasn't able to be on much at all.

KWhit · 04-10-2008, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Day 0: Mayan ruins, saw no one
Day 1: snorkeling, say claphamsa and The Jackal
Day 2: Conch Shell House, saw KWhit

no responses needed for any of those (KWhit, did you have any from the Conch Shell House?)

No, I didn't get any choices from the Conch House. I saw you there as well.

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK< I trust Cronin a bit more now

I really think that's misguided - not the trust, but the reasoning behind it.

mccollins · 04-10-2008, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I really think that's misguided - not the trust, but the reasoning behind it.

I agreed with Lathum at the time, but as someone else mentioned, I remembered the details necessary to answer quickly as well.

hoopsguy · 04-10-2008, 08:35 AM

I'm likely going to be out until after the 3PM deadline, so I'll be putting a vote in now. I'll trust Lathum on his story for the time being and follow his vote on a guy who was on the boat.

VOTE SWAGGS

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

I agreed with Lathum at the time, but as someone else mentioned, I remembered the details necessary to answer quickly as well.

That's not why I think its misguided. Its that I think the wolves are basically playing this game the same way the villagers are, with the difference that they have extra knowledge. I could be wrong about this.

mccollins · 04-10-2008, 08:45 AM

I'm going to go ahead and get a vote in today rather than wait around like yesterday. If Lathum is making all this up, that's a pretty huge trap he's setting for himself. Thus, like hoops, I'll choose to believe for now.

Swaggs was on the boat (and why did you go Fiesta Boat Partying twice?), but Chief Rum needs to explain some things too.

VOTE SWAGGS

Passacaglia · 04-10-2008, 09:08 AM

So hoops, in all the hoopla of figuring out the pattern, and finishing your task, we forgot to look at why it happened. Can you shed some light on that?

claphamsa · 04-10-2008, 09:16 AM

wow, lots of hate on swaggs

vote cronin.

hoopsguy · 04-10-2008, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So hoops, in all the hoopla of figuring out the pattern, and finishing your task, we forgot to look at why it happened. Can you shed some light on that?

I don't have light to shed on it yet. I met my requirement - not sure if there would have been punishment for not doing so, or if there is an upcoming reward for doing so. I guess it could have been solely for Alan's amusement, but as of right now I don't have any info that I haven't already shared.

Raiders Army · 04-10-2008, 09:18 AM

Man, I vote and everyone follows suit. I'm like the Grim Reaper. I voted for Sonic Youth both days and bam. He's gone. I vote for Swaggs and he gets more votes...

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 09:19 AM

What are hoops and pass talking about?

nfg22 · 04-10-2008, 09:24 AM

I like Lathum's story. Swaggs you may have messed up.

Vote Swaggs

Do we have the option to leave today or no?

04-09-2008, 10:13 PM	#1013
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I have half an item. The business half. Am looking for the bottom half. LMK if you know what I'm talking about and let's see if we can hook something up. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-09-2008, 10:42 PM	#1016
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Wow Lathum passed Claphamsa as the most talkative in this game thus far. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-10-2008, 01:38 AM	#1022
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Hmm, there doesn't seem to be much else for me to say that hasn't already been said. I tried to go snorkeling at the shipwreck (popular place), and was told I couldn't go (sounds like what Lathum got). As I didn't put down another option, I simply returned to the boat. I think we need to form a consensus on who to vote for to ensure a lynch. I think we have to assume at least majority. I don't want to miss another day betting on Barkeep's 40%. Sonic Youth is off the boat. The next two vote getters were jeheinz and st.cronin. I'm still not ready to vote for jeheinz, so I am going to go with st.cronin, in the hope that enough of us will vote to ensure a lynch. I don't really have a reason to vote for st.cronin or to not vote for him, but the fact others might is enough to sway me to throw my vote there. Since, again, I will not be around for the first deadline, I won't be able to react and change to voting trends, I am afraid. VOTE ST.CRONIN __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-10-2008, 06:27 AM	#1026
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	mornign all! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-10-2008, 09:16 AM	#1046
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	wow, lots of hate on swaggs vote cronin. __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-09-2008, 10:01 PM	#1001
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Pass, I figure you would have a good head for patterns.

04-09-2008, 10:02 PM	#1002
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I've now met my duties, so I'll abandon this style of posting.

04-09-2008, 10:02 PM	#1003
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Just keep posting, and you'll be fine?

04-09-2008, 10:02 PM	#1004
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Well never mind, then!

04-09-2008, 10:03 PM	#1006
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, moving ahead with info. I would love it if others would follow suit: Day 0: shopping, pottery, no results of interest Day 1: stayed on boat on account of being dumb WW player Day 2: turtles, helped teacher

04-09-2008, 10:04 PM	#1007
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Weird. So the pattern stopped at 11?

04-09-2008, 10:05 PM	#1009
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Day 0: Mayan ruins, saw no one Day 1: snorkeling, say claphamsa and The Jackal Day 2: Conch Shell House, saw KWhit no responses needed for any of those (KWhit, did you have any from the Conch Shell House?)

04-09-2008, 10:17 PM	#1015
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Anxiety I may have given it to Oliegirl. What you say sounds to maybe fit mine. I hope Oliegirl can clarify for us soon.

04-10-2008, 01:03 AM	#1020
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I am not going to be able to do much tomorrow during the day, So I will put in my vote now. We now have three that have missed the boat. we need to find out if that is a sign of Wolfiness. so I will vote for the only one of the 3 currently on the vote. Vote Path

04-10-2008, 06:59 AM	#1028
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So are we told someones alegiance when they are removed? I hope so because I swore I would never play in another game where roles aren't revealed upon death.

04-10-2008, 06:59 AM	#1029
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Turn 0: The Marine Park Turn 1: The Beach Turn 2: Flightseeing No actions on any of them and I didn't see any other players.

04-10-2008, 07:00 AM	#1030
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	My vote will probably go to someone who was on the boat yesterday. I have class most of the day today, can anyone refreash that list for me?

04-10-2008, 07:03 AM	#1032
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	This is just another shot in the dark: VOTE SWAGGS I can't remember much help he's been; however, this is a vote without much behind it. Regardless, I probably will not change my vote because I have a pretty busy day.

04-10-2008, 08:25 AM	#1036
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	mccollins, I think you have it right - Lathum is the one who is talking about foiling a plot to cut the boat ropes. I didn't see anything of the sort in Alan's message. You can choose to believe Lathum, challenge him on his story, or flat out think he is lying. But there isn't anything from Alan that I saw supporting the idea of boat ropes.

04-10-2008, 08:35 AM	#1042
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm likely going to be out until after the 3PM deadline, so I'll be putting a vote in now. I'll trust Lathum on his story for the time being and follow his vote on a guy who was on the boat. VOTE SWAGGS

04-10-2008, 08:45 AM	#1044
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	I'm going to go ahead and get a vote in today rather than wait around like yesterday. If Lathum is making all this up, that's a pretty huge trap he's setting for himself. Thus, like hoops, I'll choose to believe for now. Swaggs was on the boat (and why did you go Fiesta Boat Partying twice?), but Chief Rum needs to explain some things too. VOTE SWAGGS

04-10-2008, 09:08 AM	#1045
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	So hoops, in all the hoopla of figuring out the pattern, and finishing your task, we forgot to look at why it happened. Can you shed some light on that?

04-10-2008, 09:18 AM	#1048
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Man, I vote and everyone follows suit. I'm like the Grim Reaper. I voted for Sonic Youth both days and bam. He's gone. I vote for Swaggs and he gets more votes...

04-10-2008, 09:19 AM	#1049
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	What are hoops and pass talking about? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

04-10-2008, 09:24 AM	#1050
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	I like Lathum's story. Swaggs you may have messed up. Vote Swaggs Do we have the option to leave today or no?

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