The West (a western themed browser based RPG)

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Someone make a town.

wanted to reply to that with some thoughts. Making a town with a bunch of level 2 or 3 people will probably not be very productive right now.

A town is founded completely empty of any building. To get even a general store to level 1, it'll probably take me some 10 hours, or 5 two hours slots dedicated to building it. Two hours of building work costs $240, or $1200.

That money comes from deposits made to the town treasury by town members, say me and 4 other low level players fighting to get some money going. It would probably be kinda tough to get much done with that town, although something could be said for getting it rolling and simply taking it slowly with it...

Also, even once we have a town, we need to build a mortician before our members can start duelling...

FM

[DeToxRox]

You all = My sugar daddies. Make it happen.

BTW, dumb question but if I do a job for an hour, I can just click out and it gets done or no?

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

BTW, dumb question but if I do a job for an hour, I can just click out and it gets done or no?

what do you mean click out? you mean close the browser? If so, yes, it happens in real time.

If you click the X to end a job before the time's up, it'll calculate your work up to the previous time period (10 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour) and should give you a work report with benefits for it.

FM

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

what do you mean click out? you mean close the browser? If so, yes, it happens in real time.

If you click the X to end a job before the time's up, it'll calculate your work up to the previous time period (10 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour) and should give you a work report with benefits for it.

FM

Yeah sorry, meant out of the browser. Thanks for all your help FM, i'll feel bad killing you in a duel .. err...

[FrogMan]

no prob Detox. You still got a few levels to go before getting to me

also, there's a way for you to go shopping without having to pay 4 times the price, it's called shopping visit invites. You can sometimes approach the founder of a town and ask for a shopping visit invite. They will usually ask you to deposit some money in their town trasury, say $100 or $150, and you'll be able to shop at their town. It's good when you want to get that donkey but don't want to pay $1000. It's available for $250 to town members, so say $150+250 is still only $400...

FM

[FrogMan]

just bought myself this Fancy bowler hat

Fancy bowler hat

+1 Charisma +6 Toughness +5 Horseback riding +5 Repairing +11 Trading

[FrogMan]

just so you know, this are the skills of my level 23 adventurer:
The West Stats and Tools

and that's my inventory at the moment:
The West Stats and Tools

FM

[JonInMiddleGA]

Now Level 5 (12/46 toward level 6)

$81 in my pocket, a gray cap (+5 toughness) and a red bandanna (+2 swim & +1 const.) have been added to my lovely gray rags & gray ragged shoes ensemble. And I've got a broken clay jug (1-7 damage melee) in case anybody decides they don't like my outfit.

And there's a spare ham & broken whiskey bottle in my pocket, both of which are getting a might uncomfortable.

[DeToxRox]

I am getting a hang of it and got through a lot of quests, but I need some skills so I can do the sugar cane job.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I am getting a hang of it and got through a lot of quests, but I need some skills so I can do the sugar cane job.

This may sound stupid but ... don't forget to apply your level & skill bonuses (like I did at first).

Also, I love the weststats.com calculator once you've imported your current skills. Sort by Labour Points and it makes it easier to see where to apply your points to get access to another job. It also took me a bit to figure out that some skills count twice toward a particular job (like swimming counting 3x on stream fishing).

Just general two cents worth from someone who registered about 36 hours ago.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

This may sound stupid but ... don't forget to apply your level & skill bonuses (like I did at first).

Also, I love the weststats.com calculator once you've imported your current skills. Sort by Labour Points and it makes it easier to see where to apply your points to get access to another job. It also took me a bit to figure out that some skills count twice toward a particular job (like swimming counting 3x on stream fishing).

Just general two cents worth from someone who registered about 36 hours ago.

Yep. I forgot earlier, and did it but stupidly I didn't check anything and put them in random shit useless to me now.

[Danny]

I noticed a trend that a lot of two aninal instinct categories have high experience, so right now I am maxing animal instinct for quicker leveling.

[lordscarlet]

Seamus Mahoney has joined world 8.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Now Level 5 (12/46 toward level 6)

$81 in my pocket, a gray cap (+5 toughness) and a red bandanna (+2 swim & +1 const.) have been added to my lovely gray rags & gray ragged shoes ensemble. And I've got a broken clay jug (1-7 damage melee) in case anybody decides they don't like my outfit.

And there's a spare ham & broken whiskey bottle in my pocket, both of which are getting a might uncomfortable.

nice! Don't be too quick to throw away some of those extra items. Some of them will come handy in some later quests. Never know what might be asked of you later on. Remember having some glasses of water in extra and then boom, a quest requiring a couple of them and it was completed as soon as it showed up...

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Also, I love the weststats.com calculator once you've imported your current skills. Sort by Labour Points and it makes it easier to see where to apply your points to get access to another job. It also took me a bit to figure out that some skills count twice toward a particular job (like swimming counting 3x on stream fishing).

Just general two cents worth from someone who registered about 36 hours ago.

Originally Posted by Danny

I noticed a trend that a lot of two aninal instinct categories have high experience, so right now I am maxing animal instinct for quicker leveling.

The West Stats calculator is a real time saver. I played the game for about 2-3 weeks before I gave the calculator a shot. Wow. You can even sort the jobs in the calculator to show only those using a certain skill. That way, you can anticipate the return on investment of picking a certain skill over another, say animal instinct for example...

FM

[Danny]

I'm level 4 now, so it's not going too slowly

[DeToxRox]

I'm low on energy. Need 2 more points to finish this Sugarcane Quest.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I'm low on energy. Need 2 more points to finish this Sugarcane Quest.

That's the part I don't quite have a good handle on so far, energy management.

[Danny]

Make sure to sleep in a town to regain energy faster when you run out.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I'm low on energy. Need 2 more points to finish this Sugarcane Quest.

you probably know, but your character gets 3 rest points per hour, that he is working or doing nothing. Sleeping in a hotel gives you back 64 rest points for 8 hours, but it's worked out to 8 rest points per hour. An 8 hour resting period costs $10 unless you're an adventurer, or you are sleeping in your town.

Adventurers get to sleep for free in the first two levels of any hotel.

FM

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

That's the part I don't quite have a good handle on so far, energy management.

Yep. It says you gain 2 energy points every 10 minutes you're not doing anything, but I could be wrong.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

you probably know, but your character gets 3 rest points per hour, that he is working or doing nothing. Sleeping in a hotel gives you back 64 rest points for 8 hours, but it's worked out to 8 rest points per hour. An 8 hour resting period costs $10 unless you're an adventurer, or you are sleeping in your town.

Adventurers get to sleep for free in the first two levels of any hotel.

FM

I'd have sworn they charged me $10. Maybe it wasn't deducted even though it was listed as the price.

Also, the way you worded that made me wonder ... can you interrupt the sleep cycle and go back to work after a partial rest?

[Danny]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Yep. It says you gain 2 energy points every 10 minutes you're not doing anything, but I could be wrong.

I think that's if you're sleeping. If you're not, I think it's just the 3 energy points an hour.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I'd have sworn they charged me $10. Maybe it wasn't deducted even though it was listed as the price.

Also, the way you worded that made me wonder ... can you interrupt the sleep cycle and go back to work after a partial rest?

As soon as you hit the "sleep in hotel" button, $10 goes from your money. If you cancel the sleeping quick enough, they give it back to you.

Otherwise, and to answer your second question, yes you can interrupt the sleep cycle after having gained just enough to go do a certain job, but you will not get any money back. Say you had 16 rest points, you go sleep for an hour, get 8 back to get you to 24, and you can stop sleeping and go do a job for 2 hours.

Originally Posted by Danny

I think that's if you're sleeping. If you're not, I think it's just the 3 energy points an hour.

As per the rules:

Energy points show if the character is tired or not. You cannot work all day and all night, at some point your character needs sleep, preferably in a hotel. An hour of work costs 10 energy points.

• 10 minutes: 2 energy points
• 30 minutes: 6 energy points
• 1 hour: 12 energy points
• 2 hours: 24 energy points

Whatever you do, your character constantly regenerates 3 energy points per hour, even while working or moving around. Players with premium account regenerate 4.5 points per hour. The energy raises much faster when you sleep in a hotel room. The better the room, the more energy is regenerated.

although that is screwy. An hour of work is 12 energy points. And the sentence after the bullet points is key here: "Whatever you do, your character constantly regenerates 3 energy points per hour, even while working or moving around."

FM

[Danny]

Ah ok so those are the costs of working, not energy regeneration.

[Danny]

I'm almost with a 2 hour pig tending session, hope I find the ham, so I can finish the quest and hit level 5.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Danny

Ah ok so those are the costs of working, not energy regeneration.

yes

FM

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Danny

I'm almost with a 2 hour pig tending session, hope I find the ham, so I can finish the quest and hit level 5.

wait till you get the "guarding the fort" quest. HUGE rewards, 180 experience points. But you have to bring back a flag that has a 2% chance of showing up.

In world 8, I got it on my first two hour try. In my French world, it took me some 10-12 two hour tries to get it (not all at once mind you).

FM

[Danny]

I got 3 hams lol

[Danny]

Nice I'm half way to level 6 now. I completed the ham quest and the next one was something I already had so got 45 xp in total.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Danny

I got 3 hams lol

hmmmmm, bacon

FM

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

wait till you get the "guarding the fort" quest. HUGE rewards, 180 experience points. But you have to bring back a flag that has a 2% chance of showing up.

In world 8, I got it on my first two hour try. In my French world, it took me some 10-12 two hour tries to get it (not all at once mind you).

FM

Well I assume there isn't a lot of defending of Forts in the French World

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Danny

Nice I'm half way to level 6 now. I completed the ham quest and the next one was something I already had so got 45 xp in total.

yeah, that's what I meant earlier. Sometimes, you can go through a quest arc real quick. Sure some other times you get stuck too.

FM

[DeToxRox]

I need this last Energy point so I can do this stupid quest.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Well I assume there isn't a lot of defending of Forts in the French World

LOL, it's called "guarding the Eiffel Tower" in that world...


Nah, just kidding.

FM

[DeToxRox]

When do you start getting quests from someone other then the bartender? Also, is it just quests from people in the Saloon or are their others around there?

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

When do you start getting quests from someone other then the bartender? Also, is it just quests from people in the Saloon or are their others around there?

there are some quest started by someone in the saloon that will ask you to go find a certain person. You need to accept it there and look at the map for a whit dot, then walk to that person to accept his/her quest...

FM

[Axxon]

World 8 Axxon. Running through the tutorial now. This one I think I'll like.

[DeToxRox]

I normally am not big on these games but I usually try them out. This one has be addicted to it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

When do you start getting quests from someone other then the bartender? Also, is it just quests from people in the Saloon or are their others around there?

IIRC, the sheriff had a couple in a row for me at Level 4, then the dance hall girl had one, then the indian, the girl, and the sheriff all at the same time at lvls 5 & 6.

[DeToxRox]

Doing the Sugarcane now. I have a ham already so apparently I'll be set for a future quest. I'll check it back out later on and see how it works out for me.

[Danny]

We should start a town at some point.

[FrogMan]

Big Census of FOFCers in World 8:
FrogMan - Ole Dirty Froggie
JonInMiddleGA - Luke Warmwater
Schmidty - JasonSchmidt
Calis - Gertbeef
ntndeacon - ntndeacon
Yellow5 - Weemus McToots
hawk4669 - Hawk4669
BrianD - Nunzio
DeToxRox - DeToxRox
Danny - DanKD
mrkilla22 - mrkilla22
Crim - CrimBronco
chinaski - Van Zandt
lordscarlet - Seamus Mahoney
Axxon - Axxon

let me know if I missed your name, or if you're playing and are not listed in there. I'll add this list to the first post...

FM

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Danny

We should start a town at some point.

For sure. Heeding FM's advice above we probably need to wait like a week until more of us level, but JIMGA seems like he is getting there, as do you, and I'm making progress so hopefully rather soon.

[Danny]

I'm going to be like Dr. Doolittle with all my points in Animal Instinct.

[dbd1963]

I have a 2nd level character by the name of Feadhel.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

For sure. Heeding FM's advice above we probably need to wait like a week until more of us level, but JIMGA seems like he is getting there, as do you, and I'm making progress so hopefully rather soon.

we might wanna start talking about where we want to go found a town, and we could found more than one, make an empire out of it, with shopping invites across the empire.

I'm part of the HBA empire, as an adventurer right now. Way they work is everybody has to pay $200 a week for town improvements, and they have adventurers like me that don't necessarily belong to one town, but can ask for invites to go shopping. Thing is, not all stores end up with the same items in every town. I'll explain more when we get to building stuff, but praying is involved. So some town might have some different items and if we make them known here, we could do better as a two town empire to start than as one big town...

Anyway, about where to go, how about saying where you guys are?

In a (X, Y) kind of way, I'm in the upper right corner of the map, in the (10, 1) square, right dab in the middle...

FM

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

For sure. Heeding FM's advice above we probably need to wait like a week until more of us level, but JIMGA seems like he is getting there, as do you, and I'm making progress so hopefully rather soon.

Levels 4 & 5 went by extremely fast for me, nature of the quests & rewards really (almost entirely XP). 6 on the other hand ... well, 3 hours of harvesting grain & zero collected so far (need two). That's actually the longest stretch I've had without getting an item but it's also one of my lowest labour point skills so I guess that makes sense.

The thing that has me scratching my head about a town at the moment is the sheer cost of it. If I've understood it right, beyond the worker(s) building the structures you also have to pay $120 per hour they work from the town treasury.

So far I haven't even earned $150 cash total yet, even counting selling off spare items. With a 10 member limit on the town at start up, I'm seeing it as an extremely slow process to build a town once it's founded. The manpower doesn't seem like the problem, it's the cash.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

In a (X, Y) kind of way, I'm in the upper right corner of the map, in the (10, 1) square, right dab in the middle...

Lower left quadrant, slightly southwest of Key Lime Cove.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Levels 4 & 5 went by extremely fast for me, nature of the quests & rewards really (almost entirely XP). 6 on the other hand ... well, 3 hours of harvesting grain & zero collected so far (need two). That's actually the longest stretch I've had without getting an item but it's also one of my lowest labour point skills so I guess that makes sense.

The thing that has me scratching my head about a town at the moment is the sheer cost of it. If I've understood it right, beyond the worker(s) building the structures you also have to pay $120 per hour they work from the town treasury.

So far I haven't even earned $150 cash total yet, even counting selling off spare items. With a 10 member limit on the town at start up, I'm seeing it as an extremely slow process to build a town once it's founded. The manpower doesn't seem like the problem, it's the cash.

yeah, that's why I was saying to wait a tiny bit before going on. I'm willing to slow down my progress significantly in order to help fund the town (or towns) but still, we might have a hard time building it. I do have some jobs that pay me $50 to 60 per two hour period though. But still, to pay for two hours of building, I have to work four hours of those jobs...

As for limits, a town start with residence at level 1, i.e. 5 members at most. Then you need to upgrade it. Might be good to get a town started with at least a general store for everybody on rotation to come and get the darn donkey that help traveling faster and is need for a quest.

FM

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

In a (X, Y) kind of way, I'm in the upper right corner of the map, in the (10, 1) square, right dab in the middle...

FM

sorry, that was wrong. With (0, 0) being the lower left of the big grid, I'd be at (10, 4) or absolute top right of the little grid map.

Jon for example is at (6, 2). I'm 7:12 from you Jon but I do have a Pony (+50%).

FM