2012 MLB Thread (Cabrera Gets Triple Crown, first since Yaz 1967) - Page 6

JPhillips · 03-02-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

OK, here's a HUGE pet peeve of mine about the misunderstanding of sabremetrics:

This is NOT an example of SABR influence on baseball. In fact, it's just the opposite. One of the basic tenets of analyzing stats is sample size. Most (nearly all) SABR-inclined guys will tell you it's nuts to pinch hit a .750 OPS player with a .600 OPS guy just because the former is 1-12 in his career against a particular pitcher and the latter is 3-7. They don't even know or understand what they are objecting to. They should hire Joe Morgan away from the Reds as a consultant.

I agree with sample size, but even his example has him playing a guy that could have been 4-16 with seven strikeouts.

CraigSca · 03-02-2012, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I already knew this just based on things like the Howard contract and the Papelbon debacle (that's a great band name), but this just makes me sad to be a Phillies fan.

It's like being a Royals or Pirates fan earlier in the century, except they have enough money to overcome their willful ignorance. I mean, I'm cool with using various means to evaluate players, but they admit the only use they have for this stuff is to determine how other teams will value their players. Doesn't that tell you something?

Inside the Phillies: Who needs sabermetrics?

I love the example of a guy going 1 for 16 against a pitcher as "sabremetrics". It's also interesting that they point out their general disdain for sabremetrics as almost charming. In reality, it's on par with, "I have a lot of data here that I can use to make a decision, but I'm choosing to use only 50% of that data."

Ksyrup · 03-02-2012, 08:19 AM

Just pointed that out in my next post. HA!

CraigSca · 03-02-2012, 08:21 AM

Yeah, I just saw that myself! I need to be quicker on the trigger next time!

JPhillips · 03-02-2012, 01:05 PM

I know it's only Spring training, but this is why Ludwick is dangerous in Dusty's hands. Tomorrow's lineup:

Brandon Phillips
Zack Cozart
Joey Votto
Ryan Ludwick
Jay Bruce
Scott Rolen
Drew Stubbs
Devin Mesoraco

Would anyone be surprised if Dusty ran this out for 100+ games?

Scoobz0202 · 03-02-2012, 01:07 PM

And watch we don't see Mesoraco till almost All-Star break.

Butter · 03-02-2012, 01:25 PM

Jesus Christ.

jbergey22 · 03-02-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I already knew this just based on things like the Howard contract and the Papelbon debacle (that's a great band name), but this just makes me sad to be a Phillies fan.

It's like being a Royals or Pirates fan earlier in the century, except they have enough money to overcome their willful ignorance. I mean, I'm cool with using various means to evaluate players, but they admit the only use they have for this stuff is to determine how other teams will value their players. Doesn't that tell you something?

Inside the Phillies: Who needs sabermetrics?

I liked the part at the end of the article when he talks about the A's success was mostly because of having 3 of the best pitchers in baseball. Most would probably claim the same about the Phillies and many might also claim the Phillies vastly underachived hitting wise last year.

Whether these old managers want to use it or not is up to them but not understanding it is simply inexcusable IMO. It is part of their craft.

jbergey22 · 03-02-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I know it's only Spring training, but this is why Ludwick is dangerous in Dusty's hands. Tomorrow's lineup:

Brandon Phillips
Zack Cozart
Joey Votto
Ryan Ludwick
Jay Bruce
Scott Rolen
Drew Stubbs
Devin Mesoraco

Would anyone be surprised if Dusty ran this out for 100+ games?

EEK!

Understandable not wanting to have Votto/Bruce B2B but Ludwick shouldnt even be in a big league lineup.

DanGarion · 03-02-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Jesus Christ.

I think he is in the Royals farm system.

kingfc22 · 03-02-2012, 03:07 PM

No comments yet on the new playoff format?

Also, looks like inter-league play year round starting in 2013 with the Astros move to the AL. I wonder how long it will be until the DH is implemented in the NL (please dear god no.)

Scoobz0202 · 03-02-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I know it's only Spring training, but this is why Ludwick is dangerous in Dusty's hands. Tomorrow's lineup:

Brandon Phillips
Zack Cozart
Joey Votto
Ryan Ludwick
Jay Bruce
Scott Rolen
Drew Stubbs
Devin Mesoraco

Would anyone be surprised if Dusty ran this out for 100+ games?

Even though I agree with Dusty on it obviously being dumb to question his lineups already you can tell this is going to be a fun season.

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Originally Posted by Dusty

"I don’t care," he said. "Everybody can tell you how to do it, but very few have ever done it. . . I’m at the point where I don’t care. I really don’t care. That’s the last thing on my mind. I’m doing what I think is right every day. There’s a good chance with my background and experience that I know better than most."

He's going to blow a gasket by seasons end. Seems to be getting fed up with the lineup questioning, but you know that shit won't stop cause, well, Dusty lineups are the best lineups...

JPhillips · 03-03-2012, 05:36 PM

I like to believe he's thinking: "Fuck the Cardinals!"

JonInMiddleGA · 03-03-2012, 06:05 PM

Braves lose to the Tigers, avoid being no-hit thanks to lead off the 8th. Made that stand pat thing look great.

sterlingice · 03-03-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Braves lose to the Tigers, avoid being no-hit thanks to lead off the 8th. Made that stand pat thing look great.

Might be a smidge early to draw any conclusions

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JonInMiddleGA · 03-03-2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Might be a smidge early to draw any conclusions

The conclusions were pretty sharply drawn last year.

That said, my comment was very much tongue in cheek.

Jas_lov · 03-03-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

No comments yet on the new playoff format?

Also, looks like inter-league play year round starting in 2013 with the Astros move to the AL. I wonder how long it will be until the DH is implemented in the NL (please dear god no.)

DH will be implemented league wide and what they need to do is just eliminate the divisions. This one game playoff to get into the playoffs is a joke. A 95 win team from a tough division will have to face off against an 83 win team from a joke division just to get into the playoffs?

Here's the solution - Eliminate the divisions. We have 2 leagues, top 4 automatically get into the playoffs. Reduce the regular season to 154 games. Extend the division series to 7 games. Much better and fairer. Why should the better team in the regular season have to play in a one game playoff against a lesser team just to get into the playoffs? The better team has already proved it is superior over a bigger sample size. It's a silly idea to drum up more money.

Scoobz0202 · 03-03-2012, 09:37 PM

I don't even think you have to shorten the season. Are you wanting to shorten the season to prevent the playoffs from going even further into November? If so, I'd rather they just reduce the number of off days during the playoffs. Make it so you need more then two pitchers to succeed.

MizzouRah · 03-03-2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I like to believe he's thinking: "Fuck the Cardinals!"

No.. he's thiking.. "Damn, I bet on those fucking Phillies".

JonInMiddleGA · 03-03-2012, 10:29 PM

Kinda one story out of hundreds from spring training, figured I'd share.

McCann shoulders blame for Braves' collapse *| ajc.com

Ryan S · 03-04-2012, 01:55 PM

Is anyone else finding that watching MLB.tv games with Nexdef is a stuttery mess?

Even on the lowest quality the video is stopping every 5 seconds or so, and the quality seems to be changing regularly.

I am pretty sure it has nothing to do with my internet connection as I am having no problems maxing out the video settings when I don't use the nexdef plugin.

Outside the DVR controls, is there any advantage to using nexdef?

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 03-04-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I like to believe he's thinking: "Fuck the Cardinals!"

it takes a certain caliber of man to wear a shirt with his own picture on it without the slightest hint of irony.

also, 'the battles' was a thing? really?

JonInMiddleGA · 03-04-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

also, 'the battles' was a thing? really?

I think that says "battler"

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 03-04-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I think that says "battler"

lol. that's even better.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-04-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

lol. that's even better.

I think it's being an iron-on decal makes it even more interesting

1978 Pete Rose Iron On "the Battler" Pete rose

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 03-04-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I think it's being an iron-on decal makes it even more interesting

1978 Pete Rose Iron On "the Battler" Pete rose

god bless the internet. this made my day.

JPhillips · 03-04-2012, 05:08 PM

I can believe Rose ironed that on himself just to show he could.

cartman · 03-04-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I can believe Rose ironed that on himself just to show he could.

But did he do it while he was wearing the t-shirt? That would up the level to Smoltzian.

MizzouRah · 03-04-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

But did he do it while he was wearing the t-shirt? That would up the level to Smoltzian.

sterlingice · 03-04-2012, 06:25 PM

Yay. Baseball was on MLB Audio today! Baseball's back!

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stevew · 03-05-2012, 12:18 AM

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The Pirates and Andrew McCutchen have agreed to a six-year extension worth $51.5MM, and the deal contains a club option for a seventh year at $14.75MM, according to Michael Sanserino of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. The deal is pending a physical, and is expected to be officially announced on Tuesday (Twitter links).

Like.

lighthousekeeper · 03-05-2012, 12:35 AM

play ball

lungs · 03-05-2012, 08:50 AM

I had to laugh at the sound of Giants fans heckling Ryan Braun yesterday....

lungs · 03-05-2012, 06:30 PM

Dola

Sounds like (nothing definite) Zack Greinke is going to hire himself in agent in order to work out an extension with the Brewers. I kind of surmised things would things could go that way with the Brewers having him do some scouting work and having him potentially sitting in on draft meetings.

Hopefully his arm doesn't fall off... and he avoids pickup basketball games.

Scoobz0202 · 03-05-2012, 10:04 PM

DaddyTorgo · 03-06-2012, 02:29 PM

Dropkicks: Pap can't use our song - Boston Red Sox Blog - ESPN Boston

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Dropkick Murphy's bassist and lead singer Ken Casey is traveling to Clearwater, Fla., to meet with his pal and new Philadelphia Phillies closer Jonathan Papelbon. And he's going there with a message.

"He can't use 'Shipping Up To Boston,'" Casey said. "That's a Boston song. One of the Philadelphia radio guys suggested 'Johnny I Hardly Knew Ya.'"

"And I have to get with the new Sox closer [Andrew Bailey] to let him know he can use 'Shipping Up To Boston,'" Casey adds. "That's not Pap's song. That's the closer's song."

Logan · 03-06-2012, 03:41 PM

With Papelbon's new deal, he can probably buy the rights to their entire catalog.

Crapshoot · 03-06-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

I love the example of a guy going 1 for 16 against a pitcher as "sabremetrics". It's also interesting that they point out their general disdain for sabremetrics as almost charming. In reality, it's on par with, "I have a lot of data here that I can use to make a decision, but I'm choosing to use only 50% of that data."

Heh - it really is a willful pride in ignorance. Never got it.

cartman · 03-09-2012, 06:12 PM

The Rangers aren't going to show Nolan Ryan pummeling Robin Ventura anymore as part of their in-game video presentations. That really sucks.

Ryan-Ventura fight video gone from Rangers Ballpark | Randy Galloway | Sports News and Videos...

Ksyrup · 03-14-2012, 02:05 PM

Yikes.

Mike Siano ‏ @fantasy411
#Royals announce MRI reveals Salvador Perez suffered left lateral meniscus tear that requires surgical procedure. No timetable for return.

In other news, BJ Upton and Demond jennings supposedly had a violent OF crash this afternoon and were both carted off.

sterlingice · 03-14-2012, 02:31 PM

NO!

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oykib · 03-14-2012, 02:31 PM

Is there a more snakebit organization than the Royals? They just signed this guy to what everyone thought was a great extension (from the Royals' point of view).

cartman · 03-14-2012, 02:41 PM

A lateral meniscus tear is tough for a catcher to come back from 100%. All of that squatting puts a ton of stress on the knees.

sterlingice · 03-14-2012, 09:20 PM

Woot! I've never been before but this year I'll be going to a legit Opening Day (first game for a team)!

Rockies @ Astros on April 6th

We got 2 tickets for only $18 total (including Ticketmaster's patented "screw you" fees). This is odd to me as the Royals, bad as they have always been since I've lived there, always sold out and always $50+ for seats. The second game of the season would be back to $5 tickets and crowds of 15K but Opening Day, no matter how bad the team was expected to be, it was a day with hope and a 0-0 record. So it's odd to see an easily had ticket for Opening Day.

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Ksyrup · 03-16-2012, 11:53 AM

HUH?

Jon Heyman ‏ @JonHeymanCBS
pettitte called the yankees. as one yankees person put it, "how do you say no?"

HA!

Phil Coke's Brain ‏ @PhilCokesBrain
Huh, I guess Pettitte misremembered that he reitred.

Ksyrup · 03-16-2012, 12:54 PM

Pettitte is signing for $2.5M.

In other news:

Aaron Gleeman ‏ @AaronGleeman
Royals catcher Salvador Perez out 3-4 months after knee surgery and Ivan Rodriguez is potential replacement

sterlingice · 03-16-2012, 01:00 PM

...

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JonInMiddleGA · 03-16-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

and Ivan Rodriguez is potential replacement

Off the top of my head, is there really not a better option than a 40+ year old?

edit to add: I mean, do you not maybe try to limp through with Brayan Pena for a month or so, keep one of the non-roster invitees as the backup?

Ksyrup · 03-16-2012, 01:01 PM

But he's a Hall of Famer!

JonInMiddleGA · 03-16-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

But he's a Hall of Famer!

So is Johnny Bench but I wouldn't suggest running him out there either

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Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	HUH? Jon Heyman ‏ @JonHeymanCBS pettitte called the yankees. as one yankees person put it, "how do you say no?" HA! Phil Coke's Brain ‏ @PhilCokesBrain Huh, I guess Pettitte misremembered that he reitred. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Pettitte is signing for $2.5M. In other news: Aaron Gleeman ‏ @AaronGleeman Royals catcher Salvador Perez out 3-4 months after knee surgery and Ivan Rodriguez is potential replacement __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	But he's a Hall of Famer! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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